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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Please, can we have peace?
I hope that for the duration of the Two Minutes Silence, there will be no posts, as we take time to those who died, and those who returned home, especially the ones with shattered bodies and minds, not only in the Great War, but in all subsequent wars our armed forces have fought in.
Support the troops, not the wars. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I didn't realise until yesterday that the armistice agreement was actually signed at 6am on the 11th. But the ceasefire wasn't to be called until 11am. Almost 3,000 troops on all sides died between 6am and 11am when the guns fell silent. Perhaps the saddest most pointless deaths of all |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I didn't realise until yesterday that the armistice agreement was actually signed at 6am on the 11th. But the ceasefire wasn't to be called until 11am. Almost 3,000 troops on all sides died between 6am and 11am when the guns fell silent. Perhaps the saddest most pointless deaths of all "
Michael Palin made an excellent BBC Documentary, "The Last Day of WW1", on just that point. There are some heartbreaking stories told. So many families received telegrams whilst celebrating peace, telling them loved ones in those last days and hours. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I only found out yesterday that 16 million people died in ww1 with the total estimated casualties was around 37 million. I had really no idea it was that many x |
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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago
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A lot of men died for nothing on the last day many being due to generals wanting to teach the enemy a last lesson not that they were in any danger but to these types men lives did not matter there was an inquiry after the war but little punishment for the gungho generals involved, on the tombstones of those that died the date of death was changed as men were dying right up till the last minute due to those that did not care.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And still we go to war......
I'll be doing my own routine as I do every year thinking of past colleagues and what my time in the military has and still does mean to me..... |
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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago
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In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
LEST WE FORGET
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x"
As long as they did it in silence |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence "
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts."
Which is such a shame x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why?
Not everyone does what others tell them to do?
Not everyone wears a poppy?
Not everyone celebrates what what others do?
If you do great! If others don't...it's no one else's business really. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x"
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead." this is laughable ...it's a sex site so if you logged off great for you.well done
Not everyone needs to? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead."
True. Btw what did you do to put up the poppy pic? x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead.
True. Btw what did you do to put up the poppy pic? x"
Type bracket poppy bracket. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead.
True. Btw what did you do to put up the poppy pic? x
Type bracket poppy bracket."
(Thanks to Andy K for the poppy) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead.
True. Btw what did you do to put up the poppy pic? x
Type bracket poppy bracket."
thanks x |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
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"A lot of men died for nothing on the last day many being due to generals wanting to teach the enemy a last lesson not that they were in any danger but to these types men lives did not matter there was an inquiry after the war but little punishment for the gungho generals involved, on the tombstones of those that died the date of death was changed as men were dying right up till the last minute due to those that did not care.
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Generals were in danger as well. Over 200 were killed, injured or captured during WW1. They were a lot closer to the front line than todays Generals. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead.
True. Btw what did you do to put up the poppy pic? x
Type bracket poppy bracket.
thanks x"
Big thanks to Andy k x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x
As long as they did it in silence
Sadly, it looks like not everyone did, going by some of the timings of posts.
Which is such a shame x
They have little respect for the living, never mind the dead.
True. Btw what did you do to put up the poppy pic? x
Type bracket poppy bracket.
thanks x
Big thanks to Andy k x"
He's good for somerhing after all! |
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
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After 50 years we should all shake hands agree it was a bad idea and look forward ...if we don't we will end up celebrating wars from the 16th centuary ....Ooo I forgot.
If you want to pay your respect fair enough but this is turning into a "I'm a best at respecting fest".
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After 50 years we should all shake hands agree it was a bad idea and look forward ...if we don't we will end up celebrating wars from the 16th centuary ....Ooo I forgot.
If you want to pay your respect fair enough but this is turning into a "I'm a best at respecting fest".
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By (user no longer on site)
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"After 50 years we should all shake hands agree it was a bad idea and look forward ...if we don't we will end up celebrating wars from the 16th centuary ....Ooo I forgot.
If you want to pay your respect fair enough but this is turning into a "I'm a best at respecting fest".
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"After 50 years we should all shake hands agree it was a bad idea and look forward ...if we don't we will end up celebrating wars from the 16th centuary ....Ooo I forgot.
If you want to pay your respect fair enough but this is turning into a "I'm a best at respecting fest".
" stand by for the hate mail been saying this for a call of yrs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you want to wear a poppy wear one
If you don’t. Dont.
If you want to log out a sex site, log out
If you don’t. Don’t.
Freedom of choice. The very thing many lost their lives to protect yet the irony is lost on many of the poppy brigade.
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"If you want to wear a poppy wear one
If you don’t. Dont.
If you want to log out a sex site, log out
If you don’t. Don’t.
Freedom of choice. The very thing many lost their lives to protect yet the irony is lost on many of the poppy brigade.
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I whole heartedly agree that it’s a personal choice. I choose to but I’m not going to harangue anyone who chooses not to.
I do it for my own personal reasons.
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I slept through it , oh wait was i wrong ?
Ohh wait again TWO of my children and my son inlaw are SERVING members of the armed forces so does that cancel the fact i slept through the services.
People show their respects in whatever way they are comfortable. My way is to be EXTREMELY proud of my children and their choices in life and support them in All their decisions and sacrifices. Trust me when i say its not only the dead that pays the price of being in the military. Its not just a job like normal people where you come home and watch tv after work. Its a way of life with a new family where you dont get to see your real families for months or years on end. Theres NO right or wrong way to show our respects, everyone should think aboit that , before commenting on others choices. |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"I slept through it , oh wait was i wrong ?
Ohh wait again TWO of my children and my son inlaw are SERVING members of the armed forces so does that cancel the fact i slept through the services.
People show their respects in whatever way they are comfortable. My way is to be EXTREMELY proud of my children and their choices in life and support them in All their decisions and sacrifices. Trust me when i say its not only the dead that pays the price of being in the military. Its not just a job like normal people where you come home and watch tv after work. Its a way of life with a new family where you dont get to see your real families for months or years on end. Theres NO right or wrong way to show our respects, everyone should think aboit that , before commenting on others choices. "
The fact that you show your kids how proud you are of them is more than enough
I hope they are all well and continue to follow their own paths in life and continue to serve with honour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I slept through it , oh wait was i wrong ?
Ohh wait again TWO of my children and my son inlaw are SERVING members of the armed forces so does that cancel the fact i slept through the services.
People show their respects in whatever way they are comfortable. My way is to be EXTREMELY proud of my children and their choices in life and support them in All their decisions and sacrifices. Trust me when i say its not only the dead that pays the price of being in the military. Its not just a job like normal people where you come home and watch tv after work. Its a way of life with a new family where you dont get to see your real families for months or years on end. Theres NO right or wrong way to show our respects, everyone should think aboit that , before commenting on others choices.
The fact that you show your kids how proud you are of them is more than enough
I hope they are all well and continue to follow their own paths in life and continue to serve with honour "
Seconded. |
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"I slept through it , oh wait was i wrong ?
Ohh wait again TWO of my children and my son inlaw are SERVING members of the armed forces so does that cancel the fact i slept through the services.
People show their respects in whatever way they are comfortable. My way is to be EXTREMELY proud of my children and their choices in life and support them in All their decisions and sacrifices. Trust me when i say its not only the dead that pays the price of being in the military. Its not just a job like normal people where you come home and watch tv after work. Its a way of life with a new family where you dont get to see your real families for months or years on end. Theres NO right or wrong way to show our respects, everyone should think aboit that , before commenting on others choices.
The fact that you show your kids how proud you are of them is more than enough
I hope they are all well and continue to follow their own paths in life and continue to serve with honour
Seconded. "
Thankyou guys xx |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
Falkirk |
"I slept through it , oh wait was i wrong ?
Ohh wait again TWO of my children and my son inlaw are SERVING members of the armed forces so does that cancel the fact i slept through the services.
People show their respects in whatever way they are comfortable. My way is to be EXTREMELY proud of my children and their choices in life and support them in All their decisions and sacrifices. Trust me when i say its not only the dead that pays the price of being in the military. Its not just a job like normal people where you come home and watch tv after work. Its a way of life with a new family where you dont get to see your real families for months or years on end. Theres NO right or wrong way to show our respects, everyone should think aboit that , before commenting on others choices.
The fact that you show your kids how proud you are of them is more than enough
I hope they are all well and continue to follow their own paths in life and continue to serve with honour
Seconded.
Thankyou guys xx"
Oh, and I hope you enjoyed your lie in too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My 2 wee ones did the silence surprisingly well followed by at least half an hour of pointless explaining about what it meant haha
To be fair they not even at school yet x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Was at Grangemouth and spotted a couple of Fabsters. "
I hope you went up to them and loudly introduced yourself by using yours and their usernames and said happy fabbing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I logged off at 10.58 and came back on at 11.10. Noticed in my looked at me list that people were still on at 11am though x"
What did you do in they 12 mins x |
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
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Soldiers, sailors and airmen along with civilians died for days after the armistice, not everywhere along the front lines complied, some weren't informed of the ceasing of hostilities.
Apparently sections of the eastern front saw the same hand to hand butchery until the 14th November 1945 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is very true ! But why do we give these people the time of day ! They have there beliefs and reasons...
As long as they don’t harm me or others then let them be ... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don’t think he meant on this thread ! Possibly just in general."
I meant on this thread. I started in the hope that people would show respect, but some have come in with their usual selfish attitudes. |
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By *ustyWoman
over a year ago
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Always show respect on this day always have done since I can remember....2 minutes silence is not much to ask for those who have given there life for there country ...respect goes a long way |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Always show respect on this day always have done since I can remember....2 minutes silence is not much to ask for those who have given there life for there country ...respect goes a long way"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Deary me, the poppy police at a new level today, respect in silence and let others do as they wish, what kind of muppet checks the times others post to see if they are being respectful enough"
If you don't wish to show respect, why post on this thread?
No body here DEMANDS you wear a poppy. No body here DEMANDS you observe the two minute silence. No body here DEMANDS you show respect for the fallen.
All that was asked was for peace. You have a whole great big forum to behave with an undeserved sense of entitlement on. Leave this little corner to people who want to remember. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Deary me, the poppy police at a new level today, respect in silence and let others do as they wish, what kind of muppet checks the times others post to see if they are being respectful enough
If you don't wish to show respect, why post on this thread?
No body here DEMANDS you wear a poppy. No body here DEMANDS you observe the two minute silence. No body here DEMANDS you show respect for the fallen.
All that was asked was for peace. You have a whole great big forum to behave with an undeserved sense of entitlement on. Leave this little corner to people who want to remember."
You're sure as hell gonna try and shame anyone who thinks you've May be gone a bit ott though |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"And year after year their numbers grew fewer
And soon no-one will march there at all. "
There are no surviving Great War veterans, those who march now served from 1939 onwards, and sadly, we still have soldiers, sailors and airmen from "post war" conflicts to remember, and their comrades will still march. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Deary me, the poppy police at a new level today, respect in silence and let others do as they wish, what kind of muppet checks the times others post to see if they are being respectful enough" |
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By *976scottMan
over a year ago
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We owe a lot if not all of the freedoms we have today to the brave men and women who have helped protect our way of life over the years, not for financial gain but for their calling of duty to serve their country.
Wear a poppy or don’t it makes no difference to them but we should never forget their sacrifice!
Lest we forget |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lest we forget
It's sad that humanity has traits like greed and the innocent are pawns in the ridiculous act of war
The fallen are the true hero's and people should use these times as a catalyst to hold the powers that be accountable not to repeat the same mistakes in history. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We owe a lot if not all of the freedoms we have today to the brave men and women who have helped protect our way of life over the years, not for financial gain but for their calling of duty to serve their country.
Wear a poppy or don’t it makes no difference to them but we should never forget their sacrifice!
Lest we forget"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Lest we forget
It's sad that humanity has traits like greed and the innocent are pawns in the ridiculous act of war
The fallen are the true hero's and people should use these times as a catalyst to hold the powers that be accountable not to repeat the same mistakes in history."
Beautifully put. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lest we forget
It's sad that humanity has traits like greed and the innocent are pawns in the ridiculous act of war
The fallen are the true hero's and people should use these times as a catalyst to hold the powers that be accountable not to repeat the same mistakes in history.
Beautifully put. "
Just laying it bare |
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"And year after year their numbers grew fewer
And soon no-one will march there at all.
There are no surviving Great War veterans, those who march now served from 1939 onwards, and sadly, we still have soldiers, sailors and airmen from "post war" conflicts to remember, and their comrades will still march."
Marched yesterday with a colleague whose service was pre 1939.
But there were only 8 of us in the Legion contingent. (plus 4 in the colour party)
I am the youngest by a decade or 2.
Whilst there were ex-servicemen and women in the crowd, they were not on the parade. |
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As one of the soldiers who did return from conflicts.
I can say hand on heart the need to showboat is imo cringeworthy. As some have said it appears to be more about proving how good you are than about actual remembrance.
I remember daily I give what I can when I can without the need to inform anyone and everyone.silence is a mark of respect I don't know what shouting from a hilltop is though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I feel privileged that I get to lead a high school in their remembrance services at school today. We will remember them.
Better late than never "
As there is no school. On Sunday. They do them on the closest day. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I feel privileged that I get to lead a high school in their remembrance services at school today. We will remember them.
Better late than never
As there is no school. On Sunday. They do them on the closest day. "
Don't take the bait. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I feel privileged that I get to lead a high school in their remembrance services at school today. We will remember them.
Better late than never
As there is no school. On Sunday. They do them on the closest day.
Don't take the bait."
Oh put your rod away and have a day off |
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I got my father's and grandfather's medals and shoulder flashes mounted in frames that hang on my bedroom walls.
I always go to remembrance parades and think on my 18 yo father landing in Normandy or both my grandfathers in the trenches.
I will never know what they went through but it was very telling when I offered to take my father back to France and all he could say was "I cant".
Lest we forget what those boys went through. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As one of the soldiers who did return from conflicts.
I can say hand on heart the need to showboat is imo cringeworthy. As some have said it appears to be more about proving how good you are than about actual remembrance.
I remember daily I give what I can when I can without the need to inform anyone and everyone.silence is a mark of respect I don't know what shouting from a hilltop is though"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"As one of the soldiers who did return from conflicts.
I can say hand on heart the need to showboat is imo cringeworthy. As some have said it appears to be more about proving how good you are than about actual remembrance.
I remember daily I give what I can when I can without the need to inform anyone and everyone.silence is a mark of respect I don't know what shouting from a hilltop is though
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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago
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I was talking about those that were well back and ordered men to go over the top when the war was finished anyway except for the few hours waiting Most officers stood the men down but not those that wanted to teach the Germans a final lesson with the lives of their own men. There was around 50 to 60 killed not many in the trenches but back behind the lines and killed by artillery that overshot. |
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