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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
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"Totally against it and don’t buy any products tested on animals. Test on paedophiles instead"
Are most medical life saving drugs not gone through animal trials first though, What's your thoughts on that, or is it a total ban on animal testing you feel is wrong. Good idea for the paedophiles though.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As an animal lover im against it. Why dont they use all the convicted murderers instead then if they die it frees up a space in a cell."
I've been saying this for years, anything that has a good chance of causing a really nasty reaction on the peados  |
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I’m not in favour of it though understand that science and medicine wouldn’t be where it is now without it . For those that say murderers , rap*ists and peadophile’s should be used for trials does that mean their for animal testing ? Surely the fact they carried out those atrocities means their animals and not human ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not seen a good debate in the forums for a while soooooo,
What's your views on animal testing on products. Are you all for it or totally against it. Plz explain your viewpoint.  "
Totally against it however its near impossible to find any products that don't have some. Derivatives within ingredients or sister companies that haven't been testing on animals
I could probably. Go through most folk houses even those who think they're being animal friendly and empty half the house including clothing where the dyes used have been tested on animals |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Totally against it and don’t buy any products tested on animals. Test on paedophiles instead
Are most medical life saving drugs not gone through animal trials first though, What's your thoughts on that, or is it a total ban on animal testing you feel is wrong. Good idea for the paedophiles though. "
The things I'd test on paedophiles are baseball bats, steel toe-capped boots, and garden shears. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm in favour of it. The animals are mostly bred specifically for testing so don't see the problem with it. "
so that makes it ok?
I have beagles and their breed are famous for being tested on because of their calm nature...No...it's not right full stop. |
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"I'm in favour of it. The animals are mostly bred specifically for testing so don't see the problem with it. so that makes it ok?
I have beagles and their breed are famous for being tested on because of their calm nature...No...it's not right full stop."
most folks images and thoughts of what "testing" is are wrong before products or derivatives get anywhere near an animal they go through rigorous medical testing.
as others have said if you really want to get rid of products that involve testing leave your house naked and never return.
if your against cruelty to animals through testing thats other countrys we have strict laws here in the uk im an animal lover but would I allow a company after money to release theor product on me or my children without testing.
im afraid not |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Problem is , and this goes back to blackstones theory about the law , until we have a 100 percent foolproof system using peados carries the risk of damaging someone innocent of the crime , im no fan of animal testing im just not sure of the best alternative |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'm in favour of it. The animals are mostly bred specifically for testing so don't see the problem with it. so that makes it ok?
I have beagles and their breed are famous for being tested on because of their calm nature...No...it's not right full stop.most folks images and thoughts of what "testing" is are wrong before products or derivatives get anywhere near an animal they go through rigorous medical testing.
as others have said if you really want to get rid of products that involve testing leave your house naked and never return.
if your against cruelty to animals through testing thats other countrys we have strict laws here in the uk im an animal lover but would I allow a company after money to release theor product on me or my children without testing.
im afraid not"
Surely that would depend on the product , or is the criteria for animal testing ok as long as the company makes a profit. Where would you draw the line. ? Kids bubbles ? Spray the soapy liquid in the eyes of cats or dogs and see if they are blinded before selling and just so a child can blow bubbles. ? |
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"I'm in favour of it. The animals are mostly bred specifically for testing so don't see the problem with it. so that makes it ok?
I have beagles and their breed are famous for being tested on because of their calm nature...No...it's not right full stop.most folks images and thoughts of what "testing" is are wrong before products or derivatives get anywhere near an animal they go through rigorous medical testing.
as others have said if you really want to get rid of products that involve testing leave your house naked and never return.
if your against cruelty to animals through testing thats other countrys we have strict laws here in the uk im an animal lover but would I allow a company after money to release theor product on me or my children without testing.
im afraid not
Surely that would depend on the product , or is the criteria for animal testing ok as long as the company makes a profit. Where would you draw the line. ? Kids bubbles ? Spray the soapy liquid in the eyes of cats or dogs and see if they are blinded before selling and just so a child can blow bubbles. ?"
if thats what you really think testings about its a shame.
its about animal welfare most places look after their animals better than some look after their pets (many go on to be pets as a side note) they dont set out to intentionally harm the animals.
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Don't intentionally set out to harm them ?
What are they doing then if not setting out to harms them?
Some of these poor animals have never seen daylight...felt grass under their feet. |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I'm in favour of it. The animals are mostly bred specifically for testing so don't see the problem with it. so that makes it ok?
I have beagles and their breed are famous for being tested on because of their calm nature...No...it's not right full stop.most folks images and thoughts of what "testing" is are wrong before products or derivatives get anywhere near an animal they go through rigorous medical testing.
as others have said if you really want to get rid of products that involve testing leave your house naked and never return.
if your against cruelty to animals through testing thats other countrys we have strict laws here in the uk im an animal lover but would I allow a company after money to release theor product on me or my children without testing.
im afraid not
Surely that would depend on the product , or is the criteria for animal testing ok as long as the company makes a profit. Where would you draw the line. ? Kids bubbles ? Spray the soapy liquid in the eyes of cats or dogs and see if they are blinded before selling and just so a child can blow bubbles. ?if thats what you really think testings about its a shame.
its about animal welfare most places look after their animals better than some look after their pets (many go on to be pets as a side note) they dont set out to intentionally harm the animals.
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I don't see why my not understanding is a shame. I do believe you , when you say they don't set out to harm animals.
You never answered my curiosity though. Where would you draw the line on testing or is your view all animal testing for any product is ok. Not being personal but that's what the debate is about , What's your opinion on animal testing. |
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Test it on murderers and paedos.....seriously? You’re expressing revulsion and outrage at products being tested on animals but it’s OK to exact torturous punishment on a human being(despite them being utter cunts they are still human)? Dostoyevsky once said that “The degree of civilisation in a society is revealed by entering its prisons”. Fuck help society if some people on this thread were in charge.
P.S Animal testing is necessary in certain instances i.e. medicinal research and I would agree with it there. For cosmetics etc? Nah why the fuck should an animal suffer just so that L’Oreal can test their new mascara |
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"Don't intentionally set out to harm them ?
What are they doing then if not setting out to harms them?
Some of these poor animals have never seen daylight...felt grass under their feet."
the criteria for animal testing centres has changed a great deal since the bad days of mis treatment.
there was a programme last year about animal welfare in the test labs may be worth folk going and watching what has changed in this industry.
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"I'm in favour of it. The animals are mostly bred specifically for testing so don't see the problem with it. so that makes it ok?
I have beagles and their breed are famous for being tested on because of their calm nature...No...it's not right full stop.most folks images and thoughts of what "testing" is are wrong before products or derivatives get anywhere near an animal they go through rigorous medical testing.
as others have said if you really want to get rid of products that involve testing leave your house naked and never return.
if your against cruelty to animals through testing thats other countrys we have strict laws here in the uk im an animal lover but would I allow a company after money to release theor product on me or my children without testing.
im afraid not
Surely that would depend on the product , or is the criteria for animal testing ok as long as the company makes a profit. Where would you draw the line. ? Kids bubbles ? Spray the soapy liquid in the eyes of cats or dogs and see if they are blinded before selling and just so a child can blow bubbles. ?if thats what you really think testings about its a shame.
its about animal welfare most places look after their animals better than some look after their pets (many go on to be pets as a side note) they dont set out to intentionally harm the animals.
I don't see why my not understanding is a shame. I do believe you , when you say they don't set out to harm animals.
You never answered my curiosity though. Where would you draw the line on testing or is your view all animal testing for any product is ok. Not being personal but that's what the debate is about , What's your opinion on animal testing. "
its a shame you believe they would set out to throw bubble mix in an animals eyes.
in order to answer your question its important that what animal testing is is correct as some folks interpretation is jaded by years gone by and not what is happening in the industry today.
my view is as much as possible no animal testing qhich I believe as a whole in this country we try to maintain that
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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It's relative in my opinion. Testing on animals can be like testing in humans... So long as not intentionally causing harm.
A cynical comment I've heard is, if a monkey has a headache, how would you know if the aspirin was going to work....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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100% against it. Also completely against forced testing on humans, that is the route the Nazi's took.
I would agree with testing on paid volunteers. As long as all precautions are in place and they know the risks (higher risk = higher reward) then i have no issue with a paid volunteer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It depends on the product being tested.
Cosmetics- no
Drugs - yes
I work in medicine and without animal testing we wouldn’t see a lot more people dying of curable diseases |
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