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Its so sad to see such an historic building on fire. From the pictures online i dont think it will survive it this time as there are pictures were the whole structure has caved and collapsed.
Also heard that the roof on the abc had collapsed as well. Hoping nobody was hurt.
Too many fires recently esp along sauchiehall st x |
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Can't say I get overly sentimental about buildings other than my own home but feel heart sorry for the students who will likely lose course work. Have a son who is trying to get into Duncan of Jordanstone here in Dundee so know all too well how much work these students put in. |
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"Can't say I get overly sentimental about buildings other than my own home but feel heart sorry for the students who will likely lose course work. Have a son who is trying to get into Duncan of Jordanstone here in Dundee so know all too well how much work these students put in."
Not being from Glasgow I Hadn't realised it hadn't yet reopened since the last fire |
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"Can't say I get overly sentimental about buildings other than my own home but feel heart sorry for the students who will likely lose course work. Have a son who is trying to get into Duncan of Jordanstone here in Dundee so know all too well how much work these students put in.
Not being from Glasgow I Hadn't realised it hadn't yet reopened since the last fire"
I was in the street watching it last night. A student was telling a guy next to me that as it was still being repaired no one was using it, so no coursework has been lost this time.
It looked horrific though, think it's a bulldozer job this time than a repair job  |
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over a year ago
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Watching the news there the fire chief said the whole building was gutted not one floor wasnt affected so yeah think its gonna get pulled down now gutted if the abc is damaged had many a good night in there |
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Criminal....an iconic building that's just about to be re-opened after a serious fire 4 years previous is totally engulfed in fire by the time the fire and rescue service attend?....and that's about 3 minutes from the fire station. Really???
I would assume by this stage that its had its new fire alarm system installed and passive fire protection measures would have been put into place during the refurbishment to prevent or restrict any future fire from totally engulfing the building. Obviously not, or there's been a total disregard by contractors in recognising that the chances of history repeating itself. Contractors will be shitting themselves.
I noticed scaffolding was all around the building as well, surely they must have had recognised the building is vulnerable at times like that and security staff on-site should be onsite taking cognisance its such an iconic building.
Serious questions have to be asked.
The SFRS aren't slow in coming down heavy on small business as and when they have a small incident. Just hope the same will be done this time. |
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"Criminal....an iconic building that's just about to be re-opened after a serious fire 4 years previous is totally engulfed in fire by the time the fire and rescue service attend?....and that's about 3 minutes from the fire station. Really???
I would assume by this stage that its had its new fire alarm system installed and passive fire protection measures would have been put into place during the refurbishment to prevent or restrict any future fire from totally engulfing the building. Obviously not, or there's been a total disregard by contractors in recognising that the chances of history repeating itself. Contractors will be shitting themselves.
I noticed scaffolding was all around the building as well, surely they must have had recognised the building is vulnerable at times like that and security staff on-site should be onsite taking cognisance its such an iconic building.
Serious questions have to be asked.
The SFRS aren't slow in coming down heavy on small business as and when they have a small incident. Just hope the same will be done this time."
the new sprinkler system was not live yet it was caused by a gas canister that a student was using for a project, tragic accident |
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"Criminal....an iconic building that's just about to be re-opened after a serious fire 4 years previous is totally engulfed in fire by the time the fire and rescue service attend?....and that's about 3 minutes from the fire station. Really???
I would assume by this stage that its had its new fire alarm system installed and passive fire protection measures would have been put into place during the refurbishment to prevent or restrict any future fire from totally engulfing the building. Obviously not, or there's been a total disregard by contractors in recognising that the chances of history repeating itself. Contractors will be shitting themselves.
I noticed scaffolding was all around the building as well, surely they must have had recognised the building is vulnerable at times like that and security staff on-site should be onsite taking cognisance its such an iconic building.
Serious questions have to be asked.
The SFRS aren't slow in coming down heavy on small business as and when they have a small incident. Just hope the same will be done this time. the new sprinkler system was not live yet it was caused by a gas canister that a student was using for a project, tragic accident "
The students aren't back in the building as far as I'm aware?.....and I don't really know for sure if there's a sprinkler system being installed...
I would assume if so, then only with approval of Historic Scotland, and that in itself is not an easy thing to get passed by them. |
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There was a new sprinkler system going in this time it was specially designed so as not to have a high force but still to be very effective.But it still remains to ne asked how the hell did it take such a hold before the fire brigade got there and as was ssid Cowcaddens fire station is just down the road  |
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"Such an iconic building but my cynical mind thinks some one is at it. 2 fires in 4 years is a bit of a coincidence "
Especially ironic that his mural was unveiled across from the clutha yesterday as well |
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"Does nobody else find it strange that there have been quite a few major fires in the city centre recently "
Lets just say if you want rid of a Listed Building then thats the best way to go and I certainly think that is what they do all over the place! Hospital in North Lanarkshire Building in Edinburgh The cowgate all to build Modern ugly crap! |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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Several points-
The students didn’t lose any work as it’s not open yet unlike last time when they lost a lot of their degree show exhibits
It’s still under renovation and surrounded by scaffolding and Sauchiehall St is down to one lane. No one was in the building this time to raise the alarm.
No alarm systems would have been active as work is still ongoing.
The ABC has also been damaged this time.
The damage does appear to be more extensive than the last time.
I was just up there two weeks ago as well. So sad. |
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"Several points-
The students didn’t lose any work as it’s not open yet unlike last time when they lost a lot of their degree show exhibits
It’s still under renovation and surrounded by scaffolding and Sauchiehall St is down to one lane. No one was in the building this time to raise the alarm.
No alarm systems would have been active as work is still ongoing.
The ABC has also been damaged this time.
The damage does appear to be more extensive than the last time.
I was just up there two weeks ago as well. So sad. "
I have no knowledge if an automatic fire detection and alarm system was installed or not, albeit I'd be surprised if there wasn't one already in situ. Ideal time to install a fire detection system is whilst access is readily available. If there was one, the fire Alarm System can be isolated by zone/floor, in effect, put offline during the working day and made 'live' as and when workers leave.
People and organisations have to be held accountable for this major failing....primarily those whose wouldn't sanction the costs for on-site security staff. Well known by insurers and Fire Services that buildings are always more vulnerable and susceptible to fire during the construction and refurbishment stage. Fire safety legislation relating to audits and inspections of specific buildings by the Fire Services has to be reviewed as well. |
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"Amazing amount of speculation and expert opinion in here... Given that the fire's no even oot! "
Yes, I agree,its all speculation at his stage. however, what we do know is the GSA is a burnt out wreck of a building and even if resurrected wont ever be the same GSA.
Expert opinion....mmmmmm yep, I think I'm qualified to give that. And as yous aid, its my opinion, nothing more.
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"Such an iconic building but my cynical mind thinks some one is at it. 2 fires in 4 years is a bit of a coincidence "
Someone who works in that building has a serious case of arachnophobia!!! |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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"Such an iconic building but my cynical mind thinks some one is at it. 2 fires in 4 years is a bit of a coincidence
Someone who works in that building has a serious case of arachnophobia!!!"
There are easier ways to get rid of spiders! |
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"Such an iconic building but my cynical mind thinks some one is at it. 2 fires in 4 years is a bit of a coincidence
Someone who works in that building has a serious case of arachnophobia!!!
There are easier ways to get rid of spiders! "
pyromania would have made way to sense chasing spiders with matches carries a more sinister view |
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over a year ago
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I was going to the big opening next year .
There's still hope it will rise again and the digital scans of every bit of the building could mean it'll look exactly the same. It's a World Heritage class building, or was, and its rebuild is about so much more than a university building.
Knowing the structure and the use of the building, it's an absolute wonder it didn't burn down years ago. Soaked in a hundred years of turps and heated from the furnace through wooden shuttered ducts, it's not exactly ever been the safest place to populate 24 hours a day. |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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"I was going to the big opening next year .
There's still hope it will rise again and the digital scans of every bit of the building could mean it'll look exactly the same. It's a World Heritage class building, or was, and its rebuild is about so much more than a university building.
Knowing the structure and the use of the building, it's an absolute wonder it didn't burn down years ago. Soaked in a hundred years of turps and heated from the furnace through wooden shuttered ducts, it's not exactly ever been the safest place to populate 24 hours a day."
I doubt it was going to reopen next year. They were still short of several £million to finish it.
Friend says it could 10 years to rebuild it. |
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I think the official opening was still planned for next year. Academic now
Interesting times re the building and thoughts for its future. Some interesting ideas, too, from the fire service about the cause and source of the fire. |
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