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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. " Enlighten us ? | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. " The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though " Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. " Gotta disagree think there would be a lot of call for it if reasonably priced | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. Gotta disagree think there would be a lot of call for it if reasonably priced " Interest, of course, but as a weekly, sustainable business, no. You've just said it yourself, "if reasonably priced", so already you're reliant on not being able to charge a premium price. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. " On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money " They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. Gotta disagree think there would be a lot of call for it if reasonably priced Interest, of course, but as a weekly, sustainable business, no. You've just said it yourself, "if reasonably priced", so already you're reliant on not being able to charge a premium price. " No I think if you kept prices reasonable you'd attract more people to come more regularly ...thus making more money ...it's simple economics | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. " I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. Gotta disagree think there would be a lot of call for it if reasonably priced Interest, of course, but as a weekly, sustainable business, no. You've just said it yourself, "if reasonably priced", so already you're reliant on not being able to charge a premium price. No I think if you kept prices reasonable you'd attract more people to come more regularly ...thus making more money ...it's simple economics " Indeed that is simple economics, but it's also a simple-minded suggestion. You think it's just reasonable prices that keep a swinging club (or any other type of club, for that matter) open?!  | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? " It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. Gotta disagree think there would be a lot of call for it if reasonably priced Interest, of course, but as a weekly, sustainable business, no. You've just said it yourself, "if reasonably priced", so already you're reliant on not being able to charge a premium price. No I think if you kept prices reasonable you'd attract more people to come more regularly ...thus making more money ...it's simple economics Indeed that is simple economics, but it's also a simple-minded suggestion. You think it's just reasonable prices that keep a swinging club (or any other type of club, for that matter) open?! "No clients do and a lot of people are put off with high pricing ...if it's reasonable these people would be more inclined to attend more regularly ..I know I would and can only speak of my thoughts on the matter | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. " So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? | |||
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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? " It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. " When your losing resort to personal digs. Classic 
You still haven’t provided the information I requested regarding costs/numbers. Or the biggest hurdle facing ventures of this nature.
Picking buzzwords and random numbers Without fact or source is nothing less than mundane ramblings. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. " The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele" Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight "Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running  | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. When your losing resort to personal digs. Classic
You still haven’t provided the information I requested regarding costs/numbers. Or the biggest hurdle facing ventures of this nature.
Picking buzzwords and random numbers Without fact or source is nothing less than mundane ramblings. "I see no personal dig. I told you, it was an estimation. A judgement. A judgement that, unless there are plans being drawn up to open clubs in Scotland outwith Glasgow and Edinburgh, well, I must be correct in my judgement. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running "So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming. Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different. "When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong. I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know. | |||
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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know. "In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that. In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL! | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL! "You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding? As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL! P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm. If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. When your losing resort to personal digs. Classic
You still haven’t provided the information I requested regarding costs/numbers. Or the biggest hurdle facing ventures of this nature.
Picking buzzwords and random numbers Without fact or source is nothing less than mundane ramblings.
I see no personal dig.
I told you, it was an estimation. A judgement. A judgement that, unless there are plans being drawn up to open clubs in Scotland outwith Glasgow and Edinburgh, well, I must be correct in my judgement. "An estimation otherwise known as a rough calculation. Care to share the figures and how you came to the estimation ? | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong "It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong
It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers. "While you're claiming to know everything and are never wrong, what's tomorrow's lottery numbers? | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong
It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers.
While you're claiming to know everything and are never wrong, what's tomorrow's lottery numbers?"I don't claim to know everything, but I'm glad you've, finally, seen I was right about this. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong
It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers.
While you're claiming to know everything and are never wrong, what's tomorrow's lottery numbers?
I don't claim to know everything, but I'm glad you've, finally, seen I was right about this. "You don't? Well that's news to the rest of us. If that's how you read it, get thee to Specsavers | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong
It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers.
While you're claiming to know everything and are never wrong, what's tomorrow's lottery numbers?
I don't claim to know everything, but I'm glad you've, finally, seen I was right about this.
You don't? Well that's news to the rest of us."I'm glad I've been able to enlighten you. Again. | |||
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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong
It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers.
While you're claiming to know everything and are never wrong, what's tomorrow's lottery numbers?
I don't claim to know everything, but I'm glad you've, finally, seen I was right about this.
You don't? Well that's news to the rest of us.
I'm glad I've been able to enlighten you. Again. "Still waiting for those lottery numbers Mary | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Bit hard to sustain a club when the rent goes from £4k to £8k a month with no warning. Unfortunately they couldn't find any other premises remotely similar, otherwise it would still be running
So in other words, they couldn't afford to keep the business running. Which is the crux of my point all along. Thanks for confirming.
Ps: Business rates go up all that time. Adapt or die. That's business. A swinging club is no different.
When you're suddenly expected to pull that amount of money out of your arse then yes it can't be afforded. The point you made was that they weren't getting the customers through the door to afford it, in which case you're wrong.
I'm sure they appreciate your sharp business insight there, well done. Going up is one thing, doubling overnight is another. As your massive intellect would already know.
In which case, why didn't the owner pass the increased costs on to his customers? That's what happens in any other business. The consumer takes the hit for increases. Everyone knows that.
In this instance, the business must have judged that the consumer would not absorb the increase, and as I suspect will also be the case, they didn't have enough custom to spread the increases out over. Either way you look at it, they didn't have the custom base to cope with the increase. Did they just think their rates would stay the same forever and they could rely on the same couple of dozen punters coming through the doors each time?!! LOL!
You seem to be confusing the owner of the premises with the people renting and running the club, is that where you're having difficulty understanding?
As for your last statement, totally fictitious as no one has ever said that. As the Aberdeen club was running for over 10 years I assume the club organisers are aware of a simple business model LOL!
P.S. the club was also used as a gay sauna on a daily basis so the customer base wasn't purely reliant on swingers. The instant drastic increase meant the closure of the place, had rates increased at a normal level I doubt that would have been the case and price increases would have been passed on to customers as per the norm.
If you want any more facts about it I can easily put you in touch with the club organisers and staff, I'm sure they'd love to hear where you think they went wrong
It's okay, I have already worked out where they went wrong, they couldn't afford to keep the place running. That'll be down to not having enough customers.
While you're claiming to know everything and are never wrong, what's tomorrow's lottery numbers?
I don't claim to know everything, but I'm glad you've, finally, seen I was right about this.
You don't? Well that's news to the rest of us.
I'm glad I've been able to enlighten you. Again.
Still waiting for those lottery numbers Mary "I wouldn't bother. You've more chance of opening a sustainable swinger's club in Dundee, than you have of winning the lottery.
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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight "Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now. "You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.  | |||
"Think you are talking absolute nonsense. Of course there is a demand and money to be made but Scottish protocol prevents it. " | |||
"Think you are talking absolute nonsense. Of course there is a demand and money to be made but Scottish protocol prevents it. " | |||
"Think you are talking absolute nonsense. Of course there is a demand and money to be made but Scottish protocol prevents it. " What protocol? | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see. "The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS . | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS . "Almost full pass marks there, you're improving. See me after class though.  | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though. "...are you going to put him over your knee?  | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee? "Only if he's very lucky.   | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky. "...mind the vaseline... | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky.
...mind the vaseline..."Don't think he'd need it.  | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky.
...mind the vaseline...
Don't think he'd need it. "Sry, dont meet anyone thats not verified. Ohh by the way , verifying yourself on your own profile in the third person is NOT a verifications . Lmfao. | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky.
...mind the vaseline...
Don't think he'd need it.
Sry, dont meet anyone thats not verified.
Ohh by the way , verifying yourself on your own profile in the third person is NOT a verifications . Lmfao. "Och...I was off to buy a hat too... | |||
"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky.
...mind the vaseline...
Don't think he'd need it.
Sry, dont meet anyone thats not verified.
Ohh by the way , verifying yourself on your own profile in the third person is NOT a verifications . Lmfao.
Och...I was off to buy a hat too... "I was off to buy matching beige slacks. We could have been like David and Elton.  | |||
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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky.
...mind the vaseline...
Don't think he'd need it.
Sry, dont meet anyone thats not verified.
Ohh by the way , verifying yourself on your own profile in the third person is NOT a verifications . Lmfao.
Och...I was off to buy a hat too...
I was off to buy matching beige slacks. We could have been like David and Elton. "Ohh Mary , you should know by now your Troll patter doesn't work with me. Every time you Troll now whichever thread you choose to do your keyboard Trolling you will always be known as Mary Doll . Im laughing that much im nearly wetting my beige troosers. | |||
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"There's no need or call for it. Reason there aren't more is they wouldn't make money. The amount of people who've attended and been interested in my previous parties, plus all those that attended the Aberdeen club would show there is a large enough group around my area that would attend. Someone would need the startup capital though Aye party every few months, yes, easy to drum up interest in that, but a weekly club, there's no sustainability in that. On what basis do you pick these buzzwords out. Sustainability No interest Wouldn’t make money They are not buzzwords. If there was any real sustainability or capacity for a club in Dundee or Aberdeen, they would have one. I asked what BASIS you came to the conclusion that a club wouldn’t work. The fact a club isn’t there at present doesn’t mean there will never be. Surely you can tell me the biggest hurdle anyone faces in venturing into the club business ? It wouldn't work because there simply doesn't appear to be enough interest to sustain a club which would be largely reliant on attracting a reasonable custom base one night per week. A social in Dundee might only attract approximately 100 people per quarter. A club there would need about half that footfall per week to make it sustainable in the long term. So it’s went from No interest to doesn't appear to be. Given that you picked numbers could you provide the overall costs of such a venture in which enabled you to target at least half the footfall per week from 100 a quarter ? It was an estimation. You know, when someone uses their knowledge of a particular situation to make a judgement and estimation. Aberdeen used to have a club. Aberdeen has approximately a quarter more of a population than Dundee, and since the Aberdeen club shut, there hasn't been another one. That would suggest to me it there either wasn't enough interest/attendance, or it wasn't making money. Or both. If the owner of the Aberdeen club was making money, would they have closed it? Probably not. Therefore, it's not too big a leap to reach the conclusion that a smaller city (Dundee) would be no different. But as what I am saying makes sense, I expect you will counter this to try and save face. The Aberdeen club closed because the owners doubled the rent out of the blue so they couldn't afford it. Nothing to do with the amount of clientele Mary doll getting a thrashing tonight
Sry butt, i never thought the Mary Doll would have stuck but im guessing your famous now.
You never took my advice on getting those spelling and punctuation lessons, I see.
The day i take advice from Mary Doll the Troll will be the day i go UNLOS .
Almost full pass marks there, you're improving.
See me after class though.
...are you going to put him over your knee?
Only if he's very lucky.
...mind the vaseline...
Don't think he'd need it.
Sry, dont meet anyone thats not verified.
Ohh by the way , verifying yourself on your own profile in the third person is NOT a verifications . Lmfao.
Och...I was off to buy a hat too...
I was off to buy matching beige slacks. We could have been like David and Elton.
Ohh Mary , you should know by now your Troll patter doesn't work with me. Every time you Troll now whichever thread you choose to do your keyboard Trolling you will always be known as Mary Doll . Im laughing that much im nearly wetting my beige troosers. "Yes, quite. Your cutting wit, entertaining prose and charismatic scribe has done me once again.  | |||
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"I never went to the club in Aberdeen but I’d have thought there would have been ways to increase income to compensate for the rent increase. A bit short sighted of the owner hiking up rent 100%. Instead of £48k a year they get nothing unless they wanted the building to sell or use for another purpose. " What happened to my friends place down south.. landlord doubled rent... they had no choice but to walk away from it... and Landlord has since opened it as a club himself. | |||
"I never went to the club in Aberdeen but I’d have thought there would have been ways to increase income to compensate for the rent increase. A bit short sighted of the owner hiking up rent 100%. Instead of £48k a year they get nothing unless they wanted the building to sell or use for another purpose. What happened to my friends place down south.. landlord doubled rent... they had no choice but to walk away from it... and Landlord has since opened it as a club himself. " They obviously saw the business potential. Shame about your friend though. | |||
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"I never went to the club in Aberdeen but I’d have thought there would have been ways to increase income to compensate for the rent increase. A bit short sighted of the owner hiking up rent 100%. Instead of £48k a year they get nothing unless they wanted the building to sell or use for another purpose. What happened to my friends place down south.. landlord doubled rent... they had no choice but to walk away from it... and Landlord has since opened it as a club himself. " Number one rule, own the building of any potential business that you’ve put everything into John | |||
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