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By *ndykay OP Man
over a year ago
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The bridge is shut BOTH ways.
This is likely to be the case for most of the morning as it's an overturned lorry and they say they can't recover it until the wind dies down.
Drive carefully everyone please.  |
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By *ndykay OP Man
over a year ago
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"What happens to drivers who do this sort of thing? Does he get charged with dangerous driving? "
As the bridge was shut to high sided vehicles at the time yes he will be charged.
It's reported that they have already charged him and his firm will most likely get a hefty bill for recovery too |
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"What happens to drivers who do this sort of thing? Does he get charged with dangerous driving?
As the bridge was shut to high sided vehicles at the time yes he will be charged.
It's reported that they have already charged him and his firm will most likely get a hefty bill for recovery too "
Good!! What a muppet.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Freaking train is delayed! Struggled to get parked this morning, bloody dafty!
Still, glad the daffy is ok. Hope he wasn't checking fab whilst driving and missed the signs  |
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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago
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"What happens to drivers who do this sort of thing? Does he get charged with dangerous driving?
As the bridge was shut to high sided vehicles at the time yes he will be charged.
It's reported that they have already charged him and his firm will most likely get a hefty bill for recovery too "
 and for repairs to bridge ..what a complete muppet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What happens to drivers who do this sort of thing? Does he get charged with dangerous driving?
As the bridge was shut to high sided vehicles at the time yes he will be charged.
It's reported that they have already charged him and his firm will most likely get a hefty bill for recovery too
Good!! What a muppet. "
thing is (and I have checked this with the bridge authorities in the past during dispute with a previous employer),they deem a high vehicle as anything with a load compartment higher than the maximum height of the cab,so if his load compartment is say 12'9" and his cab is 13',technically it isn't closed so high vehicle.
I find this astonishing,and also worrying that there seems to be a lack of clarity from the bridge authorities  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Was about to say what are the legal requirements to qualify as a high sided vehicle "
that came from bridge authorities last year,however that may have changed since then
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"What happens to drivers who do this sort of thing? Does he get charged with dangerous driving?
As the bridge was shut to high sided vehicles at the time yes he will be charged.
It's reported that they have already charged him and his firm will most likely get a hefty bill for recovery too
Good!! What a muppet. thing is (and I have checked this with the bridge authorities in the past during dispute with a previous employer),they deem a high vehicle as anything with a load compartment higher than the maximum height of the cab,so if his load compartment is say 12'9" and his cab is 13',technically it isn't closed so high vehicle.
I find this astonishing,and also worrying that there seems to be a lack of clarity from the bridge authorities "
Yeah but come on... apply a little common sense and surely you can gauge if it's too windy? Surely there's got to be some savvy applied to the weight of his load (ooer) and whether he as a responsible driver thinks it's safe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What happens to drivers who do this sort of thing? Does he get charged with dangerous driving?
As the bridge was shut to high sided vehicles at the time yes he will be charged.
It's reported that they have already charged him and his firm will most likely get a hefty bill for recovery too
Good!! What a muppet. thing is (and I have checked this with the bridge authorities in the past during dispute with a previous employer),they deem a high vehicle as anything with a load compartment higher than the maximum height of the cab,so if his load compartment is say 12'9" and his cab is 13',technically it isn't closed so high vehicle.
I find this astonishing,and also worrying that there seems to be a lack of clarity from the bridge authorities
Yeah but come on... apply a little common sense and surely you can gauge if it's too windy? Surely there's got to be some savvy applied to the weight of his load (ooer) and whether he as a responsible driver thinks it's safe. "
oh I'm not arguing that common sense should have taken over,but some (not all),drivers are lacking in that department |
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By *ndykay OP Man
over a year ago
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There is another minor detail....it's not actually illegal to go across the bridge. However, the reason he's been done for dangerous driving is because he got blown over. IF he had made it without incident they can't do a whole lot about it.
But I know the police have been using the due care and attention laws as guys have driven PST the obvious signs.
I just don't think any load is worth the risk. A life is far more valuable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is another minor detail....it's not actually illegal to go across the bridge. However, the reason he's been done for dangerous driving is because he got blown over. IF he had made it without incident they can't do a whole lot about it.
But I know the police have been using the due care and attention laws as guys have driven PST the obvious signs.
I just don't think any load is worth the risk. A life is far more valuable. "
ueah the obvious signs on the Kingsley in Dundee,Perth just before the friarton bridge and at Kinross and dunfermline |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The chaos caused by ONE man's selfishness is unreal. I hope he loses his job into the bargain!!
Anybody looking for an HGV driver's job in the Dumfries area?? "
as far as I'm aware he has been charged,but makes you wonder who is gonna have to deliver with the recovery and damage costs?the company or the driver? |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"The chaos caused by ONE man's selfishness is unreal. I hope he loses his job into the bargain!!
Anybody looking for an HGV driver's job in the Dumfries area?? as far as I'm aware he has been charged,but makes you wonder who is gonna have to deliver with the recovery and damage costs?the company or the driver?"
Well it's probably the company, but depending on the insurance they have, it could be the company, literally.
He passed a "road closed to high-sided vehicles" sign, so the insurance company could walk away!!
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By *ndykay OP Man
over a year ago
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He will lose his license and his livelihood. No company will ever employ him as a driver again.
Even if the insurance company pays up, there is no way he will get insurance on anything bigger than a car again AND even car insurance will be 10 times what he paid last year.
He deserves everything he gets I'm afraid. He's been very stupid and it was HIS decision. No one else's.
I'm sure they will get it recovered as soon as they get an hour of less wind but it's all the damage they have to repair in the bridge too  |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"He will lose his license and his livelihood. No company will ever employ him as a driver again.
Even if the insurance company pays up, there is no way he will get insurance on anything bigger than a car again AND even car insurance will be 10 times what he paid last year.
He deserves everything he gets I'm afraid. He's been very stupid and it was HIS decision. No one else's.
I'm sure they will get it recovered as soon as they get an hour of less wind but it's all the damage they have to repair in the bridge too "
Now recovered, now the work to repair the bridge begins. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's no shortage, it's all a myth.
However, there is a shortage of DECENT drivers!!! "
heck im a good driver, I can drive eating a bigmac in one hand, coffee in the other whilst steering with my knee
tried to explain that at an interview but they never gave me a job, they must have thought my charm would distract the lovely female office staff  |
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By *ndykay OP Man
over a year ago
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"There's no shortage, it's all a myth.
However, there is a shortage of DECENT drivers!!! "
There IS a shortage of experienced British HGV drivers.
However, there is no shortage of inexperienced and idiotic drivers or Europeans to do the job either |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"There's no shortage, it's all a myth.
However, there is a shortage of DECENT drivers!!!
There IS a shortage of experienced British HGV drivers.
However, there is no shortage of inexperienced and idiotic drivers or Europeans to do the job either "
That was my point!  |
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