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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 14:08:50]" Couldn't have put it better myself. | |||
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"Need to bite my tongue here before I get a ban, " A ban for what? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 14:08:50] Couldn't have put it better myself." don't you think what you said was a bit disrespectful to any women that possibly uses the forums that see your comment journey ? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 14:08:50] Couldn't have put it better myself. don't you think what you said was a bit disrespectful to any women that possibly uses the forums that see your comment journey ?" It's factually correct. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 14:08:50] Couldn't have put it better myself. don't you think what you said was a bit disrespectful to any women that possibly uses the forums that see your comment journey ? It's factually correct." is it hell | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 14:08:50] Couldn't have put it better myself. don't you think what you said was a bit disrespectful to any women that possibly uses the forums that see your comment journey ? It's factually correct. is it hell" I've seen the statuses from the girls that attend it lol Granted it's a bit of a generalisation as I've don't have knowledge of everyone who attends. | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?" is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 14:08:50] Couldn't have put it better myself. don't you think what you said was a bit disrespectful to any women that possibly uses the forums that see your comment journey ? It's factually correct. is it hell I've seen the statuses from the girls that attend it lol Granted it's a bit of a generalisation as I've don't have knowledge of everyone who attends." I've also saw status's from guys that have 10" cock- doesn't make it true | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something?" he's no clue dlt | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something? he's no clue dlt " at least it isn't just me then | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something? he's no clue dlt at least it isn't just me then" | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something?" People go there to have sex, they are required to pay money to get in. It's 100% not a brothel though. I'll leave it at that. | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something? People go there to have sex, they are required to pay money to get in. It's 100% not a brothel though. I'll leave it at that." ye must be in a good mood today then | |||
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"It's a flat in Partick containing a couple of lassies that will allow you to fire yer beans on thier tits, what's not to like?is that not a bit like likening it to a brothel? Or am I missing something? People go there to have sex, they are required to pay money to get in. It's 100% not a brothel though. I'll leave it at that. ye must be in a good mood today then " Buoyant | |||
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"I went last month and am looking forward to going again very soon. I got to dress up without any issues and had some very good chats with the ladies there. The ladies and staff are very friendly and welcoming. I highly recommend it. As for it being a brothel, what a load of bollocks, you are not paying for sex as you are not guaranteed sex from anyone. It is a contribution towards rent, bills, condoms etc....." Contribution towards rent and bills New club open today, in paisley | |||
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"I went last month and am looking forward to going again very soon. I got to dress up without any issues and had some very good chats with the ladies there. The ladies and staff are very friendly and welcoming. I highly recommend it. As for it being a brothel, what a load of bollocks, you are not paying for sex as you are not guaranteed sex from anyone. It is a contribution towards rent, bills, condoms etc..... Contribution towards rent and bills New club open today, in paisley " I refuse to come (yes I intended it to be proper spelling) unless I pay 3 times as much as fems | |||
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"I went last month and am looking forward to going again very soon. I got to dress up without any issues and had some very good chats with the ladies there. The ladies and staff are very friendly and welcoming. I highly recommend it. As for it being a brothel, what a load of bollocks, you are not paying for sex as you are not guaranteed sex from anyone. It is a contribution towards rent, bills, condoms etc..... Contribution towards rent and bills New club open today, in paisley " Ha ha, when you open?? They do quite clearly state what the contributions go towards in their profile x | |||
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"I went last month and am looking forward to going again very soon. I got to dress up without any issues and had some very good chats with the ladies there. The ladies and staff are very friendly and welcoming. I highly recommend it. As for it being a brothel, what a load of bollocks, you are not paying for sex as you are not guaranteed sex from anyone. It is a contribution towards rent, bills, condoms etc....." so any mug can pay a contribution towards rent bills and condoms for other people to have sex | |||
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"I went last month and am looking forward to going again very soon. I got to dress up without any issues and had some very good chats with the ladies there. The ladies and staff are very friendly and welcoming. I highly recommend it. As for it being a brothel, what a load of bollocks, you are not paying for sex as you are not guaranteed sex from anyone. It is a contribution towards rent, bills, condoms etc.....so any mug can pay a contribution towards rent bills and condoms for other people to have sex " I wouldn't consider myself a mug. If you feel you are a mug, then simply dont go. | |||
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"I went last month and am looking forward to going again very soon. I got to dress up without any issues and had some very good chats with the ladies there. The ladies and staff are very friendly and welcoming. I highly recommend it. As for it being a brothel, what a load of bollocks, you are not paying for sex as you are not guaranteed sex from anyone. It is a contribution towards rent, bills, condoms etc..... Contribution towards rent and bills New club open today, in paisley I refuse to come (yes I intended it to be proper spelling) unless I pay 3 times as much as fems" Oh, 3 times as much as fems? Only if you insist | |||
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"Everything is explained in their profile, you have a choice to pay or not visit. Feel free to start your own club and see how it goes. I would expect, of course, for you to charge nothing and provide everything. Good luck " It was a joke... | |||
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"Everything is explained in their profile, you have a choice to pay or not visit. Feel free to start your own club and see how it goes. I would expect, of course, for you to charge nothing and provide everything. Good luck It was a joke... " | |||
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"Everything is explained in their profile, you have a choice to pay or not visit. Feel free to start your own club and see how it goes. I would expect, of course, for you to charge nothing and provide everything. Good luck It was a joke... " I appolgise xx | |||
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"Not any different from cjs only it's smaller flat I'm sure cjs started small " CJ's has moved around a bit. Started in a small flat now in a big two storey place. | |||
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"Not any different from cjs only it's smaller flat I'm sure cjs started small CJ's has moved around a bit. Started in a small flat now in a big two storey place. " Safe to assume someone is making a decent amount of money then. | |||
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"Not any different from cjs only it's smaller flat I'm sure cjs started small CJ's has moved around a bit. Started in a small flat now in a big two storey place. " thanks I thought that | |||
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"Not any different from cjs only it's smaller flat I'm sure cjs started small CJ's has moved around a bit. Started in a small flat now in a big two storey place. Safe to assume someone is making a decent amount of money then." So what is it to you if the venues are making money? It's a business like any swingers club | |||
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"Not any different from cjs only it's smaller flat I'm sure cjs started small CJ's has moved around a bit. Started in a small flat now in a big two storey place. Safe to assume someone is making a decent amount of money then. So what is it to you if the venues are making money? It's a business like any swingers club " See my thread titled question about clubs | |||
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"Not any different from cjs only it's smaller flat I'm sure cjs started small CJ's has moved around a bit. Started in a small flat now in a big two storey place. Safe to assume someone is making a decent amount of money then. So what is it to you if the venues are making money? It's a business like any swingers club See my thread titled question about clubs " Not sure its much money, I was at shoebox and there were 3 ladies (free) and 2 crossdressers (£20 each) Not exactly rolling in it. | |||
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"But why are woman free??" If you fancy going give me a shout. | |||
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"Not sure." You've been, you said £20 earlier lol | |||
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"But why are woman free?? If you fancy going give me a shout." Pffft lol | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol" Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female | |||
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"But why are woman free?? If you fancy going give me a shout. Pffft lol" And what is that supposed to mean??? | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female" You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you." Most enlightening, having read your bitter jaundiced _iews all day there can only be one conclusion leading to one question. Why have you been banned from all the clubs? | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. Most enlightening, having read your bitter jaundiced _iews all day there can only be one conclusion leading to one question. Why have you been banned from all the clubs?" I haven't, next. | |||
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"Need to bite my tongue here before I get a ban, " Hahaha | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you." If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. Most enlightening, having read your bitter jaundiced _iews all day there can only be one conclusion leading to one question. Why have you been banned from all the clubs? I haven't, next." Sorry, I gave you credit for some intelligence, so basically your just a bitter troll | |||
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"Anyway, Journey of Discovery, if you bothered your arse and read the profiles of the people who run the clubs you would find out all the information you needed on cost of entry and what it covers." It wasn't me who was asking the prices. | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. Most enlightening, having read your bitter jaundiced _iews all day there can only be one conclusion leading to one question. Why have you been banned from all the clubs? I haven't, next. Sorry, I gave you credit for some intelligence, so basically your just a bitter troll" Absolutely not a troll or bitter. You on the other hand | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... " So women are free, crossdressers are £20 and presumably its even more expensive for single males. Single males are missing a trick here, simply slip the gfs knickers on for a minute and get money off entry. | |||
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"I been too shoebox and spent time way all the great ppl there had nights out with them there r easy going ppl that don't juge can say it's best bunch iv meet off here I would happy got too any there party's and for some off comments on here just shows how narrow minded people can be if you not been too shoebox get along meet ppl before jugein trust me u love it and the group off ppl u meet " Agreed, some people just out to be annoying. A little research first before posting absurd comments to get a reaction. | |||
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"I been too shoebox and spent time way all the great ppl there had nights out with them there r easy going ppl that don't juge can say it's best bunch iv meet off here I would happy got too any there party's and for some off comments on here just shows how narrow minded people can be if you not been too shoebox get along meet ppl before jugein trust me u love it and the group off ppl u meet Agreed, some people just out to be annoying. A little research first before posting absurd comments to get a reaction. " In no part of their website do they confirm prices. You don't like my opinions, that's fine but I am entitled to them sweetheart. | |||
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"Must admit If a guy messages me and he has a veri from the shoebox...it's a no thanks Don't know why as I've never been but...again...my own personal opinion " | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... " single male albeit in ladies clothing | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing" Yeah, semantics really isn't it. | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing" Thats called crossdressing and they have a price for that, if its not your thing thats fine, move on. | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it." Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of. | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of." Are you treated differently when it comes to paying? | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of." so if the price is a contribution to costs what difference does it make what youre wearing? | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of.so if the price is a contribution to costs what difference does it make what youre wearing?" It shouldn't but I guess females are free to encourage ladies in and charge the men to cover costs. I suppose it should be a fixed price for all, however, I'm not sure the ladies would go | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of.so if the price is a contribution to costs what difference does it make what youre wearing? It shouldn't but I guess females are free to encourage ladies in and charge the men to cover costs. I suppose it should be a fixed price for all, however, I'm not sure the ladies would go " so does a cross dresser get in free as a woman or £20 as a man, or is there a special price for cds/tvs etc? at the end of the day its SUPPOSEDLY a contribution to running costs of the flat | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of.so if the price is a contribution to costs what difference does it make what youre wearing? It shouldn't but I guess females are free to encourage ladies in and charge the men to cover costs. I suppose it should be a fixed price for all, however, I'm not sure the ladies would go so does a cross dresser get in free as a woman or £20 as a man, or is there a special price for cds/tvs etc? at the end of the day its SUPPOSEDLY a contribution to running costs of the flat " What exactly is the running costs covering? | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of.so if the price is a contribution to costs what difference does it make what youre wearing? It shouldn't but I guess females are free to encourage ladies in and charge the men to cover costs. I suppose it should be a fixed price for all, however, I'm not sure the ladies would go so does a cross dresser get in free as a woman or £20 as a man, or is there a special price for cds/tvs etc? at the end of the day its SUPPOSEDLY a contribution to running costs of the flat " If I remember as a cd I paid the £20 compared to a male who would pay £40 but dont quote me on the male price. You are correct that it should be a flat entrance price but I think it may very quickly fill with males. Can't remember how CJ's breaks it down. | |||
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"Not sure. You've been, you said £20 earlier lol Correct, I have been. Correct, I said £20. However I am a crossdresser, not a female You said ladies were free, he asked how much a single guy costs. You are a single guy, so it's £20 thank you. If you read it properly I said I am a crossdresser, I never said I was a single male. So I thank you....... single male albeit in ladies clothing Yeah, semantics really isn't it. Not semantics at all, I crossdress, they cater for crossdressers end of.so if the price is a contribution to costs what difference does it make what youre wearing? It shouldn't but I guess females are free to encourage ladies in and charge the men to cover costs. I suppose it should be a fixed price for all, however, I'm not sure the ladies would go so does a cross dresser get in free as a woman or £20 as a man, or is there a special price for cds/tvs etc? at the end of the day its SUPPOSEDLY a contribution to running costs of the flat If I remember as a cd I paid the £20 compared to a male who would pay £40 but dont quote me on the male price. You are correct that it should be a flat entrance price but I think it may very quickly fill with males. Can't remember how CJ's breaks it down." so in actual fact, the price has got absolutely nothing at all to do with RUNNING COSTS, I fail to understand how anyone cant see that | |||
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"I'd wear stockings and knickers to save £20 too lol" might as well you,ll be throwing them off when you get there anyway lol | |||
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"I'd wear stockings and knickers to save £20 too lolmight as well you,ll be throwing them off when you get there anyway lol" It sounds very very seedy to me in all seriousness. | |||
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"I'd wear stockings and knickers to save £20 too lolmight as well you,ll be throwing them off when you get there anyway lol It sounds very very seedy to me in all seriousness." don't know whether its seedy but definitely you,d need to be a mug to pay to shag or not shag in someonnes house. | |||
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"I don't know why it's not a flat fee for everyone? Just cap how many single guys are allowed in that way it's fair and probably more would attend as what about single fems that are only looking for single guys " Its a difficult one, I guess though they state the rules and price etc so you pay your money and take your chance. For some it may just be a way of socialising and not about the sex. If a male wants guaranteed sex then perhaps a brothel is the place. | |||
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"The thing that puts me off clubs is the cleanliness...just say 4 folk having sex on a bed...then they finish..does the sheets get changed before anyone else goes on again?? I've never seen it happen..hence why when I've been to cjs Iv never played " Maybe running costs covers the washing machine | |||
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"I don't know why it's not a flat fee for everyone? Just cap how many single guys are allowed in that way it's fair and probably more would attend as what about single fems that are only looking for single guys Its a difficult one, I guess though they state the rules and price etc so you pay your money and take your chance. For some it may just be a way of socialising and not about the sex. If a male wants guaranteed sex then perhaps a brothel is the place." Again with the semantics | |||
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"The thing that puts me off clubs is the cleanliness...just say 4 folk having sex on a bed...then they finish..does the sheets get changed before anyone else goes on again?? I've never seen it happen..hence why when I've been to cjs Iv never played " Towels go down to try to keep sheet clean. | |||
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"The thing that puts me off clubs is the cleanliness...just say 4 folk having sex on a bed...then they finish..does the sheets get changed before anyone else goes on again?? I've never seen it happen..hence why when I've been to cjs Iv never played Towels go down to try to keep sheet clean." To try lol | |||
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"The thing that puts me off clubs is the cleanliness...just say 4 folk having sex on a bed...then they finish..does the sheets get changed before anyone else goes on again?? I've never seen it happen..hence why when I've been to cjs Iv never played Towels go down to try to keep sheet clean." ehe...boak!!! | |||
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"The thing that puts me off clubs is the cleanliness...just say 4 folk having sex on a bed...then they finish..does the sheets get changed before anyone else goes on again?? I've never seen it happen..hence why when I've been to cjs Iv never played Towels go down to try to keep sheet clean.ehe...boak!!!" Boak x 2! Would plastic mattresses they could hose down after use not be more economical? Save a few bob out of the hefty running costs? | |||
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"I might be really naive here but I thought all prices have different tiered prices for single males/females etc? Only been to cjs the once but as I remember it single males cost substantially more. Am I missing something or is there a reason this new club seems to be getting a lot of hate?" Don't think anyone is directing their comments regarding tiered pricing at the shoebox, one individual is finding it hard to understand that some of us are happy to visit the shoebox and CJ's in the full knowledge that there are price differences and that sex is not guaranteed. I would recommend any to visit either club and see for themselves what they are like. Hope that helps | |||
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"Must admit If a guy messages me and he has a veri from the shoebox...it's a no thanks Don't know why as I've never been but...again...my own personal opinion " | |||
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"This made me laugh. You think a flat rate for all regardless wether male/female/tv but then you want to limit single guys to a minimum! What sense does that make. If thats the case what gives couples or females priority over males! The pricing is the way it is because it works. Girls are free to attract to go. Tvs are cheaper to entice them to dress freely unjudged and open mindedly. Its meant to be about having fun" Well said Tina, and I think your last sentence, which is the most important one, has been forgotten in all this | |||
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"No its about fairness Wld you Pay to say go to the cinema if the person in front of you got in free?? Or wld you pay more for a can of when the person in front of you paid less... Your all still paying for the same service after all?" Not quite, in a cinema your sex doesn't matter you are there for the film. In a club you wouldn't want 19 guys and 1 female. | |||
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"Why do guys have to pay more tho?" to encourage more ladies to attend | |||
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"So the op has sent me a message asking how much im paid to let guys spunk on my tits! Im not the one hiding behind a fake profile with zero photos. Man up mate! Grow a set of balls! Total loser! And to add how exciting is your life if this is how you get your kicks! PMSL " saddo | |||
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"I dont think Tina is having a go at us just a certain individual." ive probably worded that slightly wrong would never have a go at Tina love her company and the saddo comment was aimed at the individual | |||
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"The comments are meant to judgemental people who have never been to a club but can slag it and its patrons off were on a swinging site and while there are some practises on here I find hard to understand what people get out of them it's not my place to be the moral policeman" I think a few people are out to cause trouble and upset folk. You are correct though, this is a swinging / sex site and therefore there will be people who have different preferences. | |||
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"The comments are meant to judgemental people who have never been to a club but can slag it and its patrons off were on a swinging site and while there are some practises on here I find hard to understand what people get out of them it's not my place to be the moral policeman I think a few people are out to cause trouble and upset folk. You are correct though, this is a swinging / sex site and therefore there will be people who have different preferences. " who mentioned cops **perks up** | |||
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"The impression that many have is that a handful of girls are paid to be there. " Maybe its because on their fab profile and website they state there will always be females there guaranteed. So of course people will wonderif they are paid to guarantee their presence. I just assumed they are volunteers lol | |||
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"So the op has sent me a message asking how much im paid to let guys spunk on my tits! Im not the one hiding behind a fake profile with zero photos. Man up mate! Grow a set of balls! Total loser! And to add how exciting is your life if this is how you get your kicks! PMSL " Does he not have a pic of his wee flaccid cock anymore? | |||
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"The impression that many have is that a handful of girls are paid to be there. Maybe its because on their fab profile and website they state there will always be females there guaranteed. So of course people will wonderif they are paid to guarantee their presence. I just assumed they are volunteers lol" Volunteers? Was unaware that the Shoebox offered a service.....Thought it was a club where people went to enjoy themselves. To be honest- if you like the sound of the club, the set up and the regulars then visit and if you don't like the sound of them then refrain. You'll hear the same stories about women debasing themselves whilst in the After 8 or out dogging every night. So surely it has to come down to the basics of as long as you enjoy yourself, don't hurt anyone and play safe then nobody need comment. | |||
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"The impression that many have is that a handful of girls are paid to be there. Maybe its because on their fab profile and website they state there will always be females there guaranteed. So of course people will wonderif they are paid to guarantee their presence. I just assumed they are volunteers lol" wonder if the lass with the blue hair is a volunteer... | |||
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"Hi guys Anyone heading to the shoebox today? Is it a good place? Jamie" Am not sure your question has been answered on this thread as is often the case OP. Unfortunately I can't answer it either - but I would suggest that if your interested give it a shot and form your own opinions. It's perhaps obvious to state that no two clubs are the same and what you like may necessarily be the same as others. So go with no expectations and if you enjoy yourself all the better Mrs S | |||
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"Hi guys Anyone heading to the shoebox today? Is it a good place? Jamie Am not sure your question has been answered on this thread as is often the case OP. Unfortunately I can't answer it either - but I would suggest that if your interested give it a shot and form your own opinions. It's perhaps obvious to state that no two clubs are the same and what you like may necessarily be the same as others. So go with no expectations and if you enjoy yourself all the better Mrs S " No two nights in the same club are the same mostly | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. " | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. " I agree with some points and not with others. I am sorry if you have had a bad experience at one of the clubs at the hands of these pests. I wouldn't expect anyone to take my verification as a sign of me being anything good or bad, its just feedback, we would need to meet for you to form your own opinion. I certainly don't frequent clubs because I am desperate for sex, I go because I can dress and socialise with other people, chat over a coffee. If it doesn't go any further thats fine. Please don't tar us with the same brush, some of us are nice | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. I agree with some points and not with others. I am sorry if you have had a bad experience at one of the clubs at the hands of these pests. I wouldn't expect anyone to take my verification as a sign of me being anything good or bad, its just feedback, we would need to meet for you to form your own opinion. I certainly don't frequent clubs because I am desperate for sex, I go because I can dress and socialise with other people, chat over a coffee. If it doesn't go any further thats fine. Please don't tar us with the same brush, some of us are nice " well said | |||
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"This made me laugh. You think a flat rate for all regardless wether male/female/tv but then you want to limit single guys to a minimum! What sense does that make. If thats the case what gives couples or females priority over males! The pricing is the way it is because it works. Girls are free to attract to go. Tvs are cheaper to entice them to dress freely unjudged and open mindedly. Its meant to be about having fun" at a time when woman have caught up with equality it really suprises me that so many agree with inequality as long as it suits them. A flat rate would mean the same money as before just who pays what differs. You keep the same ratios as thats what the club says is needed you cant scream for equality then scream I have boobs I want entry cheaper | |||
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"This made me laugh. You think a flat rate for all regardless wether male/female/tv but then you want to limit single guys to a minimum! What sense does that make. If thats the case what gives couples or females priority over males! The pricing is the way it is because it works. Girls are free to attract to go. Tvs are cheaper to entice them to dress freely unjudged and open mindedly. Its meant to be about having funat a time when woman have caught up with equality it really suprises me that so many agree with inequality as long as it suits them. A flat rate would mean the same money as before just who pays what differs. You keep the same ratios as thats what the club says is needed you cant scream for equality then scream I have boobs I want entry cheaper" lets not kid on any clubs price based on equality its prices based on market forces females prices have to be low enough to get them to come male price the opposite as we can see from membership on fab theres vastly more men into this lifestyle than women so its important to get enough to go to a club to make club appealing to males and couples prices are based on the balance any club is trying for | |||
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"This made me laugh. You think a flat rate for all regardless wether male/female/tv but then you want to limit single guys to a minimum! What sense does that make. If thats the case what gives couples or females priority over males! The pricing is the way it is because it works. Girls are free to attract to go. Tvs are cheaper to entice them to dress freely unjudged and open mindedly. Its meant to be about having funat a time when woman have caught up with equality it really suprises me that so many agree with inequality as long as it suits them. A flat rate would mean the same money as before just who pays what differs. You keep the same ratios as thats what the club says is needed you cant scream for equality then scream I have boobs I want entry cheaperlets not kid on any clubs price based on equality its prices based on market forces females prices have to be low enough to get them to come male price the opposite as we can see from membership on fab theres vastly more men into this lifestyle than women so its important to get enough to go to a club to make club appealing to males and couples prices are based on the balance any club is trying for" and that is sexual discrimination based on gender. It makes no difference whether they can get away with it or not I get why they do it but it is against the law. The service you recieve whether male female or transgender is no diffrent you pay to enter the premises only.nightclubs tried the argument you are using many yrs ago claiming it would end them guess whats still around. Another point there have been more and more post involving the shadier elements of single males at clubs (a ruffie post springs to mind).by sexually discriminating males you drive alot off of even thinking of going of whats left there will be lots of desperates anotger reason to quit the discrimination | |||
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"This made me laugh. You think a flat rate for all regardless wether male/female/tv but then you want to limit single guys to a minimum! What sense does that make. If thats the case what gives couples or females priority over males! The pricing is the way it is because it works. Girls are free to attract to go. Tvs are cheaper to entice them to dress freely unjudged and open mindedly. Its meant to be about having funat a time when woman have caught up with equality it really suprises me that so many agree with inequality as long as it suits them. A flat rate would mean the same money as before just who pays what differs. You keep the same ratios as thats what the club says is needed you cant scream for equality then scream I have boobs I want entry cheaperlets not kid on any clubs price based on equality its prices based on market forces females prices have to be low enough to get them to come male price the opposite as we can see from membership on fab theres vastly more men into this lifestyle than women so its important to get enough to go to a club to make club appealing to males and couples prices are based on the balance any club is trying forand that is sexual discrimination based on gender. It makes no difference whether they can get away with it or not I get why they do it but it is against the law. The service you recieve whether male female or transgender is no diffrent you pay to enter the premises only.nightclubs tried the argument you are using many yrs ago claiming it would end them guess whats still around. Another point there have been more and more post involving the shadier elements of single males at clubs (a ruffie post springs to mind).by sexually discriminating males you drive alot off of even thinking of going of whats left there will be lots of desperates anotger reason to quit the discrimination " sorry but not a viable business model there was one club that tried this in north of england and it lasted few months before dropping price for femalez to lower than before to get them back and males hsd stopped going because it had become a sausage fest | |||
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"What gets me is have most of the folk on here actually been to the shoebox? I haven't been which is why I have no right to comment either way on what the place is like,and maybe instead of just going along with hear say,perhaps give the place a try before passing judgement" I dont and wouldnt go as long as inequality is aloud to prosper that is the reason I feel I can post my thoughts and judgements | |||
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"What gets me is have most of the folk on here actually been to the shoebox? I haven't been which is why I have no right to comment either way on what the place is like,and maybe instead of just going along with hear say,perhaps give the place a try before passing judgementI dont and wouldnt go as long as inequality is aloud to prosper that is the reason I feel I can post my thoughts and judgements I'm assuming that you are going on about inequality in terms of costs?" to my knowledge its the only form of inequality the clubs practice | |||
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"I wouldn't go either as its all about money and I have a very good reason to believe so..." ok so let's take the cost out of the way and say for arguments sake everyone paid the same,would tour opinions on the place be the same?probably not,it would become the hip and happening place to be. Unfortunately it's down to less females than males,simple economics and business acumen | |||
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"I wouldn't go either as its all about money and I have a very good reason to believe so...ok so let's take the cost out of the way and say for arguments sake everyone paid the same,would tour opinions on the place be the same?probably not,it would become the hip and happening place to be. Unfortunately it's down to less females than males,simple economics and business acumenyes but the fact remains its not a club, its someones house and irrespective of who you are, beit female, male, tv etc, running costs which is the SUPPOSED contribution (not charge) is the same whoever walks through the door. " and so because they charge for the use of the facilities (whatever they may be),that makes it equivalent to a brothel? | |||
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"I wouldn't go either as its all about money and I have a very good reason to believe so...ok so let's take the cost out of the way and say for arguments sake everyone paid the same,would tour opinions on the place be the same?probably not,it would become the hip and happening place to be. Unfortunately it's down to less females than males,simple economics and business acumenyes but the fact remains its not a club, its someones house and irrespective of who you are, beit female, male, tv etc, running costs which is the SUPPOSED contribution (not charge) is the same whoever walks through the door. and so because they charge for the use of the facilities (whatever they may be),that makes it equivalent to a brothel?" no, not at all but you cant argue different prices are down to running costs. | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. I certainly ain't desperate. Lol jeeez the narrow mindedness of some folk is unbelievable, hard to believe your so called swinger's " Well said lol I cant offer the op any help as I've never been, but the trolls an negativity here are laughable I see no difference from this club or any other other than popularity compared to established clubs like cjs,after8 etc...they cater for ppl that want to have fun ..they have similar price structure...so what's the problem ??? Yeah yeah guys pay more than girls its not fair....suck it up buttercup ffs..since when has life been fair...girls got it guys want it some guys struggle so are willing to pay....its not a new story folks been going on for eons deal with it ....you were all born with the ability to make choices....if you do t like it do t go it really is that simple | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. I certainly ain't desperate. Lol jeeez the narrow mindedness of some folk is unbelievable, hard to believe your so called swinger's Well said lol I cant offer the op any help as I've never been, but the trolls an negativity here are laughable I see no difference from this club or any other other than popularity compared to established clubs like cjs,after8 etc...they cater for ppl that want to have fun ..they have similar price structure...so what's the problem ??? Yeah yeah guys pay more than girls its not fair....suck it up buttercup ffs..since when has life been fair...girls got it guys want it some guys struggle so are willing to pay....its not a new story folks been going on for eons deal with it ....you were all born with the ability to make choices....if you do t like it do t go it really is that simple " thank fuck someone with the same opinion as me | |||
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"it's discrimination that old people get free bus passes. Doesn't mean that it would be logical to give everyone a free pass. Remember to stay clear of a certain diy chain today all those oldies are off with their free bus passes to buy paint and wallpaper today 10% cheaper " B Q..uiet about that or everyone will want it | |||
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"I wouldn't go either as its all about money and I have a very good reason to believe so...ok so let's take the cost out of the way and say for arguments sake everyone paid the same,would tour opinions on the place be the same?probably not,it would become the hip and happening place to be. Unfortunately it's down to less females than males,simple economics and business acumenyes but the fact remains its not a club, its someones house and irrespective of who you are, beit female, male, tv etc, running costs which is the SUPPOSED contribution (not charge) is the same whoever walks through the door. Don't get them started on the it's not a club it's a house line, they don't like that, you could call their mother a whore and they wouldn't get as angry!!" lol | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. I certainly ain't desperate. Lol jeeez the narrow mindedness of some folk is unbelievable, hard to believe your so called swinger's Well said lol I cant offer the op any help as I've never been, but the trolls an negativity here are laughable I see no difference from this club or any other other than popularity compared to established clubs like cjs,after8 etc...they cater for ppl that want to have fun ..they have similar price structure...so what's the problem ??? Yeah yeah guys pay more than girls its not fair....suck it up buttercup ffs..since when has life been fair...girls got it guys want it some guys struggle so are willing to pay....its not a new story folks been going on for eons deal with it ....you were all born with the ability to make choices....if you do t like it do t go it really is that simple thank fuck someone with the same opinion as me" Be careful Martin you know the old saying great minds think alike gnomes seldom differ | |||
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"the problem with the shoebox is because its money driven it doesnt care who enters its doors, usually (but not always) guys who have struggled to get a meet from other sources, and from our experience guys that are generally aggressive pests, even more so after theyve been given the validation of a veri, because obviously that means they are genuine decent guys. as usual with the scotland "scene" people are far too blinkered in their opinions, whether that be the people making money from getting fucked or the people paying. we would never personally criticise the people running these things, theyve seen a market and are exploiting it so fair play, but we will tend to avoid guys that go there, because for us sex is about fun it isnt about paying for it. paying shows a certain amount of desperation. I certainly ain't desperate. Lol jeeez the narrow mindedness of some folk is unbelievable, hard to believe your so called swinger's Well said lol I cant offer the op any help as I've never been, but the trolls an negativity here are laughable I see no difference from this club or any other other than popularity compared to established clubs like cjs,after8 etc...they cater for ppl that want to have fun ..they have similar price structure...so what's the problem ??? Yeah yeah guys pay more than girls its not fair....suck it up buttercup ffs..since when has life been fair...girls got it guys want it some guys struggle so are willing to pay....its not a new story folks been going on for eons deal with it ....you were all born with the ability to make choices....if you do t like it do t go it really is that simple thank fuck someone with the same opinion as me" Same here. | |||
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