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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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When I visit my adopted home of the West Midlands or take a trip to London or places like that...it feels like it's 2016. But then I come back to my home country and it's back to the 80's or 90's here.
So called "neds" driving past blasting out....happy hardcore...seriously..in 2016 and they thing happy hardcore is still cool. Did Urban music not happen here? I was away for a while...There's no new music scene really. No Grime, or urban type thing...instead..we get WeeMan. I played that in front of some of my Wolverhampton Jamaican/English friends thinking they'd get the humour...It was embarrassing.
As for the way black people are perceived here...that peeves me too. Walking through Kilmarnock and 2 black guys selling gas/electric and the guy I'm with says "what color are they"....Another guy..talking about actors and I said I liked Tom Hardy, then I said Denzel Washington was good too..."Oh a black guy" he said. I think some people up here still picture black people as Africans. Never really seen U.K native one that speak different and are more up to speed with the modern world than most Scots (or at least Ayrshire people) seem to be.
The words used never really change. In Birmingham/Black Country for example, I noticed over the years that slang words would change and evolve because of different cultures there...but here...people still use the word "Wideo"...That just sounds so 90's to me now..."wideo."...yeah. It's embarrassing. Sounds dumb. Almost nerdy...
There's other things too but there you go. Scotland isn't "cool" or modern really. Maybe Glasgow or Edinburgh are slightly more up to date but at least Ayrshire is not in the 21st century yet...
I think Scotland needs more immigration. Will bring it up to speed with the modern world etc...It's the Monoculture of Scotland that puts it behind. Need more diversity here...
Any thoughts?
I'm expecting abuse from insecure people but my frame of mind doesn't permit me to be offended.
Like I said, don't know if it's all of Scotland but certainly in Ayrshire...No offence Ayrshire people but fucking hell....It's not 2016 here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Urban?
Grime?
Sorry I never realised these niche genres where the epicentre of 'cool'
To compare London to Ayrshire is laughable.
Have a word with yourself mate and break out the ice packs. Might cool down the insane levels of butthurt oozing form your post  |
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No offence OP, but I've never heard so much nonsense in my life.
You've presented your perceived disappointment at Scotland's social progress (or lack of) on two or three isolated examples that come across as trivial.
Respectfully, I'd suggest the problem you are feeling is with you, and not that of the country or it's people and progresses.
That said, I respect your right to your opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No offence OP, but I've never heard so much nonsense in my life.
You've presented your perceived disappointment at Scotland's social progress (or lack of) on two or three isolated examples that come across as trivial.
Respectfully, I'd suggest the problem you are feeling is with you, and not that of the country or it's people and progresses.
That said, I respect your right to your opinion. "
Well said mate
Glasgow has been named as a world centre of music however 'Simon Cowell' here claims "There's no new music scene really"  |
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Well as I'm a Londoner and living in Scotland for the last 8 years I find its the same when I go back down there.
As I've been told by my partner many times "if you don't like it feel free to leave" lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Urban?
Grime?
Sorry I never realised these niche genres where the epicentre of 'cool'
To compare London to Ayrshire is laughable.
Have a word with yourself mate and break out the ice packs. Might cool down the insane levels of butthurt oozing form your post "
London and other places like the West Midlands (Birmingham ect..). Yes I suppose it is laughable. I think it's outside of Ayrshire too to a certain degree.
I might break out some ice packs yes  The cold is good for our bodies lol. I do have cold showers so maybe I'll go jump in for 10 mins ; ) |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Well as I'm a Londoner and living in Scotland for the last 8 years I find its the same when I go back down there.
As I've been told by my partner many times "if you don't like it feel free to leave" lol"
I mean the Midlands more really as that's where I lived and am moving back to but I mentioned London as it's not too different. Maybe you had different experiences but I'm just describing my experience |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No offence OP, but I've never heard so much nonsense in my life.
You've presented your perceived disappointment at Scotland's social progress (or lack of) on two or three isolated examples that come across as trivial.
Respectfully, I'd suggest the problem you are feeling is with you, and not that of the country or it's people and progresses.
That said, I respect your right to your opinion.
Well said mate
Glasgow has been named as a world centre of music however 'Simon Cowell' here claims "There's no new music scene really" "
Simone Cowell is right. Obviously they make music in Glasgow and elsewhere but it's not 'new' so to speak. |
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By *ab femWoman
over a year ago
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Aww that's nice you're all cultured because you've been to England aren't you lucky.
Sounds like you are hanging around with the wrong sort of ned in Kilmarnock, you should try to broaden your circle of friends up here.
Slag Ayrshire off all you want but as the saying goes you can take a man out of Ayrshire but you can never take the Ayrshire out a man. You're as narrow minded as the people you talk about.
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Between this and your dislike of the female Scottish voice, you're really not having a great time here are you?
But never mind, you're leaving anyway so you won't have to endure our awfulness much longer. Ta ta   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To compare London to Ayrshire is laughable.
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To compare Glasgow to Ayrshire is laughable. It's time they stopped them marrying their sisters down there.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This guys brilliant! Hey I'm not a huge fan of Scotland (well more Glasgow tbh) either but just get on with it. No sense moaning about it, either accept its where you are or leave simples
Mr B |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've never heard such juvenile nonsense!!
Missed his thread about how the female Scottish accent is like nails on a blackboard, then?  "
Now you mention it I do think I saw it... one can only imagine he is being deliberately provocative or terminally obtuse. One wonders if those from his place of birth are looking forward to the occasion  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"This music you speak of? Grime?
Maybe it's because it's shite?"
Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm talking about music scene/youth culture differences. Like Grime/U.K Urban music or not, at least there're trying their own thing. Better than happy hardcore in 2016  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Aww that's nice you're all cultured because you've been to England aren't you lucky.
Sounds like you are hanging around with the wrong sort of ned in Kilmarnock, you should try to broaden your circle of friends up here.
Slag Ayrshire off all you want but as the saying goes you can take a man out of Ayrshire but you can never take the Ayrshire out a man. You're as narrow minded as the people you talk about.
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I liked you aswell, we had some nice interactions before...still haven't got that phone fixed though 
The guy in Kilmarnock isn't a ned though. He's never been d*unk or stoned and I think his idea of a good night is watching Eastenders lol I don't hang around with Neds.
As for your taking the man out of Ayrshire etc... comment, I'm not an Ayrshire native..I think I'm less narrow minded. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was.married to a yam yam....it a certain place in midlands.and when I visited.telford/wolverhampton I found them to be as boring an inane as a drying t.bag
I'm English living in Scotland and find much more tolerance of ethnic minorities etc then I ever did in midlands...so just my personal opinion o.p but
I've not heard so much bollox since Clinton declared he never had sexual relations with that woman |
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"This guys brilliant! Hey I'm not a huge fan of Scotland (well more Glasgow tbh) either but just get on with it. No sense moaning about it, either accept its where you are or leave simples
Mr B"
You don't get a voice.... You're Welsh
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This music you speak of? Grime?
Maybe it's because it's shite?
Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm talking about music scene/youth culture differences. Like Grime/U.K Urban music or not, at least there're trying their own thing. Better than happy hardcore in 2016 "
I don't listen to happy hardcore either. I left that part of my life behind in the 90s. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I was.married to a yam yam....it a certain place in midlands.and when I visited.telford/wolverhampton I found them to be as boring an inane as a drying t.bag
I'm English living in Scotland and find much more tolerance of ethnic minorities etc then I ever did in midlands...so just my personal opinion o.p but
I've not heard so much bollox since Clinton declared he never had sexual relations with that woman "
Never been to Telford but Wolverhampton people are a largely friendly bunch and diverse population. I'm talking of my experience only so others may have had a different experience. It depends who you know and socialise with.
I think when it comes to tolerance, Scotland may be more tolerant because it's not as prevalent here. Walk down certain streets in Wolves (Dudley Road for example) and you could be the only white person or at least one of just a few.
The Black Country/Bham area is a lot more vibrant than Ayrshire so if you were bored there then, possibly like me, you are the one with the problem.
I think at the end of the day it's the youth culture/new music scenes I'm talking about. The Scottish "youth" (under 30) are just a bit 90's still. It doesn't evolve over time. Most so called "neds" are walking around in track suits that look like they were bought in 1995!. I feel the Scots youth need a better dress sense...
Everyone should really just agree with me and change your ways to please me...
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"This music you speak of? Grime?
Maybe it's because it's shite?
Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm talking about music scene/youth culture differences. Like Grime/U.K Urban music or not, at least there're trying their own thing. Better than happy hardcore in 2016
I don't listen to happy hardcore either. I left that part of my life behind in the 90s."
At least you moved on lol...Some of young scallywags still run around like it's an 80's rave |
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By *ab femWoman
over a year ago
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"Aww that's nice you're all cultured because you've been to England aren't you lucky.
Sounds like you are hanging around with the wrong sort of ned in Kilmarnock, you should try to broaden your circle of friends up here.
Slag Ayrshire off all you want but as the saying goes you can take a man out of Ayrshire but you can never take the Ayrshire out a man. You're as narrow minded as the people you talk about.
I liked you aswell, we had some nice interactions before...still haven't got that phone fixed though
The guy in Kilmarnock isn't a ned though. He's never been d*unk or stoned and I think his idea of a good night is watching Eastenders lol I don't hang around with Neds.
As for your taking the man out of Ayrshire etc... comment, I'm not an Ayrshire native..I think I'm less narrow minded. "
Aww did you really  well it's a shame for you that you have lumped me into a big Ayrshire slagging then isn't it.
What you have said in this thread and other ones you have started is so narrow minded it's unreal. Take a look at yourself before you slag others off.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Aww that's nice you're all cultured because you've been to England aren't you lucky.
Sounds like you are hanging around with the wrong sort of ned in Kilmarnock, you should try to broaden your circle of friends up here.
Slag Ayrshire off all you want but as the saying goes you can take a man out of Ayrshire but you can never take the Ayrshire out a man. You're as narrow minded as the people you talk about.
I liked you aswell, we had some nice interactions before...still haven't got that phone fixed though
The guy in Kilmarnock isn't a ned though. He's never been d*unk or stoned and I think his idea of a good night is watching Eastenders lol I don't hang around with Neds.
As for your taking the man out of Ayrshire etc... comment, I'm not an Ayrshire native..I think I'm less narrow minded.
Aww did you really well it's a shame for you that you have lumped me into a big Ayrshire slagging then isn't it.
What you have said in this thread and other ones you have started is so narrow minded it's unreal. Take a look at yourself before you slag others off.
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Yes, yes I did
I thought Ayrshire only existed for people to poke fun at? |
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By *ab femWoman
over a year ago
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Aww did you really well it's a shame for you that you have lumped me into a big Ayrshire slagging then isn't it.
What you have said in this thread and other ones you have started is so narrow minded it's unreal. Take a look at yourself before you slag others off.
Yes, yes I did
I thought Ayrshire only existed for people to poke fun at? "
Stop trolling everyone  Scotland is a beautiful country.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Aww did you really well it's a shame for you that you have lumped me into a big Ayrshire slagging then isn't it.
What you have said in this thread and other ones you have started is so narrow minded it's unreal. Take a look at yourself before you slag others off.
Yes, yes I did
I thought Ayrshire only existed for people to poke fun at?
Stop trolling everyone Scotland is a beautiful country.
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It can be, it's not all doom n' gloom |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If your Robson greenin it... Well done 10/10 you got the bites....
If your serious.. Holy moly. M8 where do you like Cumnock....
You have racist friends who you claim are not neds... Hmmm
NED means non educated delinquent.. Exactly how you are coming across right now...
to claim Ayrshire is not diverse is just plain stupid... Ayrshire as a whole is accepting Syrian refugees... Google m8... Shit sorry better call your friends in the midlands this ayrshire dail up Internet is a cu#t.. Ain't it..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Happy hardcore was never good, but my wee bro and his mates listen to rave and techno from the 90s early 00s because as they say music nowadays is pish.
Urban and grime naw just naw lol Ned's have rave chavs have urban and grime.
Scottish people are different from other people in the world, and wether were backwards, forwards or just plain weird I wouldn't want to be like anyone from any other country. Unique is the word for us.
There are of course the weirdos "in my opinion" who are Americanised and wear skinny jeans and have daft hair but each to their own |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd just like to point out the 90's was an amazing decade for music and with the shit that passes for popular music nowadays it's no wonder they prefer a bit of happy hardcore (always hated that term. It's fuckin dance music). So anyway......when you leaving? |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
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If I'm reading his correctly, OP wants more immigration because he feels it will mean people in Ayrshire listening to supposedly more up to date (niche) music and learning some new patter?
Is that it or have I missed something? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This guys brilliant! Hey I'm not a huge fan of Scotland (well more Glasgow tbh) either but just get on with it. No sense moaning about it, either accept its where you are or leave simples
Mr B
You don't get a voice.... You're Welsh
John "
Aye very good |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"its shite being Scottish. We're the lowest of the fucking low, the scum of the earth, the most wretched, servile, miserable, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some people hate the English, but I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. We can't even pick a decent culture to be colonized by. We are ruled by effete arseholes. It's a shite state of affairs and all the fresh air in the world will not make any fucking difference."
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By (user no longer on site)
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""its shite being Scottish. We're the lowest of the fucking low, the scum of the earth, the most wretched, servile, miserable, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some people hate the English, but I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. We can't even pick a decent culture to be colonized by. We are ruled by effete arseholes. It's a shite state of affairs and all the fresh air in the world will not make any fucking difference."
Renton"
You my good man are a bawbag Scotland is boring but it's not the worst place on the planet, it's full of arseholes but not scum of the earth.
The only part I agree on is the people who "rule" us are arseholes.
Be Scottish and proud, even though we did vote no in 2014 I'm sure there's still a bit of Scottish pride somewhere to be found, maybe? |
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Having lived around the uk for a good few yrs its not a case of scotland not being 2016 its a case of this is scotlands 2016. London is nothing like scotland but its also nothing like the midlands or newcastle liverpool co antrim pontypridd. As for wideo and other local coliquilisms is that not part of being diffrent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Having lived around the uk for a good few yrs its not a case of scotland not being 2016 its a case of this is scotlands 2016. London is nothing like scotland but its also nothing like the midlands or newcastle liverpool co antrim pontypridd. As for wideo and other local coliquilisms is that not part of being diffrent. "
Eek sake taken 5years but I actually agree with the cube.....the world ends tomorrow |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I love Scotland for its country roads, peace & tranquillity, and feeling of home.
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I work offshore where we are a huge mix of all UK locations, as well as many further afield in the World, we can all get on together and part of getting on is being able to take the piss from each other, Jocks, Geordies, Mackems, scousers, cockney twats, the lot
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but trying to compare any part of Scotland to London is laughable
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I think the OP needs to get a grip and become "steet wise" learn how to live in other parts of the country and learn how to fit in |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If your Robson greenin it... Well done 10/10 you got the bites....
If your serious.. Holy moly. M8 where do you like Cumnock....
You have racist friends who you claim are not neds... Hmmm
NED means non educated delinquent.. Exactly how you are coming across right now...
to claim Ayrshire is not diverse is just plain stupid... Ayrshire as a whole is accepting Syrian refugees... Google m8... Shit sorry better call your friends in the midlands this ayrshire dail up Internet is a cu#t.. Ain't it..... "
My friends aren't racist. Racism is when you think or imply that another race is somehow inferior because of their race. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"OP if you want to dribble pish feck off to Facebook.... This is a sex site no one truly gives a shit about your complaints. "
It's a sex site but people talk about all sorts on the forums. If people truly don't give a shit...why are they replying? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No offence OP, but I've never heard so much nonsense in my life.
You've presented your perceived disappointment at Scotland's social progress (or lack of) on two or three isolated examples that come across as trivial.
Respectfully, I'd suggest the problem you are feeling is with you, and not that of the country or it's people and progresses.
That said, I respect your right to your opinion.
Well said mate
Glasgow has been named as a world centre of music however 'Simon Cowell' here claims "There's no new music scene really" "
Maybe Simon should loosen his high waist band and let some oxygen get to his brain then it might work |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Urban and grime naw just naw lol Ned's have rave chavs have urban and grime.
Scottish people are different from other people in the world, and wether were backwards, forwards or just plain weird I wouldn't want to be like anyone from any other country. Unique is the word for us.
There are of course the weirdos "in my opinion" who are Americanised and wear skinny jeans and have daft hair but each to their own"
The "chavs" are getting some nice pussy with their music...That's all I'm saying lol
But yes, uniqueness is good when it's harmless..Each to their own as you say |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I think the OP needs to get a grip and become "steet wise" learn how to live in other parts of the country and learn how to fit in"
I can see your point but I don't we should try to fit in. Just embrace diversity or we'd all be the same. I'd think of myself as relatively street wise. Been homeless and in some very rough places so I don't think that's the issue...
Maybe it's my reluctance to become a stern workaholic... |
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Wouldn't it be "diverse" if you go south in your tracksuit, burberry hat and play some happy hardcore rather than trying to "fit in" with a culture that is clearly not your own.
After this thread the image I have of you is a white guy with a badly put on jamie an accent and your jeans dropping down to your knees, if I'm right Ali G was so 90's |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wouldn't it be "diverse" if you go south in your tracksuit, burberry hat and play some happy hardcore rather than trying to "fit in" with a culture that is clearly not your own.
After this thread the image I have of you is a white guy with a badly put on jamie an accent and your jeans dropping down to your knees, if I'm right Ali G was so 90's"
No you're not right. I don't dress like that... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wouldn't it be "diverse" if you go south in your tracksuit, burberry hat and play some happy hardcore rather than trying to "fit in" with a culture that is clearly not your own.
After this thread the image I have of you is a white guy with a badly put on jamie an accent and your jeans dropping down to your knees, if I'm right Ali G was so 90's"
And no I don't see how that would be more diverse. I live on Earth so any Earthly culture can be my own. I don't want to be handcuffed by one culture. I like variety. I also love science so there is balance. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga. |
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga. "
Nothing wrong with Scotland - except the entirety of Ayrshire, and the female accent, and and and ....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You have said people from Ayrshire and Scotland in general are inferior to the places in England you have visited. All because of what? You heard someone playing hardcore in their car  "
I didn't say inferior, just less diverse and dated.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga.
Nothing wrong with Scotland - except the entirety of Ayrshire, and the female accent, and and and ....
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Yeh apart from all those things  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Shut yer whinging pus......ya wideo!
Sorry,couldn't help myself
Quiet YOU!! "
Naw,yer in Scotland now big man,so the correct grammar is.....shut yer pus! |
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga.
Nothing wrong with Scotland - except the entirety of Ayrshire, and the female accent, and and and ....
Yeh apart from all those things "
Luckily it won't be bothering you much longer then. When's the big day, I'll get the champagne in |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga.
Nothing wrong with Scotland - except the entirety of Ayrshire, and the female accent, and and and ....
Yeh apart from all those things
Luckily it won't be bothering you much longer then. When's the big day, I'll get the champagne in "
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga.
Nothing wrong with Scotland - except the entirety of Ayrshire, and the female accent, and and and ....
Yeh apart from all those things
Luckily it won't be bothering you much longer then. When's the big day, I'll get the champagne in
I'll let you know "
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
beer can beer can beer can beer can...
Anyway, I concede. Nothing wrong with Scotland. It is what it is. (Still prefer the West Midz though...)
And for the record, no, I'm not a wigga.
Nothing wrong with Scotland - except the entirety of Ayrshire, and the female accent, and and and ....
Yeh apart from all those things
Luckily it won't be bothering you much longer then. When's the big day, I'll get the champagne in
I'll let you know
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Be sure to visit Glasgow on Sunday. The sights you see you will never forget and you will hear music but not as you'd know it. Hang around into the evening for those magical cultural moments that can only be experienced in this fine city on Old Firm Day.
Hopefully you'll get good service on the Megabus back down south tho!!
Have fun and enjoy yourself Xxx |
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"Boomboclart! Yea man I hear what your saying on the mixing things up a lil bit with a bit of diversity because in certain pockets of Scotland it's like a timewarp/twighlight zone where some folk still think it's cool to sniff glue and stab each other with broken buckfast bottles for something to do and there are certain outdated and unacceptable schools of thought such as rampant sexism,racism....although I personally think that Scotland is a much more tolerant place than England although I've technically experienced alot more racial incidents here than in England but at least they're nicer about it here than England for the most part statistically speaking Englands bnp membership is something like 6% compared to Scotland's 2% ....the Scots have long been an oppressed people who can relate to the plights of other oppressed people....I love it here for all it's pro's and cons....maybe Ayrshire isn't as much up with the times but I've found that Dundee,fife,Perth,Edinburgh and Glasgow has come a long way in terms of being mode diverse and I never ceases to surprise and amuse me to see some youngster here listening to grime,Jamaican dub/dancehall etc....when not that long ago I was the only one I knew rocking the "ethnic" vibes whilst all my mates were fighting me to put on some rave/techno/trance etc.....the wee man has even come a long way since his first big hit...he's a great guy...I even facilitated a rap battle video with him a while back which was really cool he's assisting in the inevitable change of the scene by embracing new thing's and paving the way for others to follow "
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Well this was entertaining
I've never lived in the Midlands. However I did spend a few years in Surrey. My Edinburgh accent was often complimented and my 90s music was never complained about.
As much as I loved my time in the South I still came back home.
It is, after all where the heart is.
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We've got to go to the mainland way down south for my son's graduation. We're dreading it. life just seems so hard and brutal there. Everyone in a hurry. |
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You need to pull your head out of your arse, because people have a music preference they're backwards? What kind of nonsense is that. You don't like Scotland? Fuck off out of it. Though with an attitude like yours it doesn't matter where you are you'll never be happy or you'll find something to complain about. |
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"If your Robson greenin it... Well done 10/10 you got the bites....
If your serious.. Holy moly. M8 where do you like Cumnock....
You have racist friends who you claim are not neds... Hmmm
NED means non educated delinquent.. Exactly how you are coming across right now...
to claim Ayrshire is not diverse is just plain stupid... Ayrshire as a whole is accepting Syrian refugees... Google m8... Shit sorry better call your friends in the midlands this ayrshire dail up Internet is a cu#t.. Ain't it.....
My friends aren't racist. Racism is when you think or imply that another race is somehow inferior because of their race. "
Sorry m8. But I would constitute saying. "what colour are they". And "oh a black guy"... In the context you described as highly racist... Or a comment from someone with racist ideology.... |
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You see Scotland didn't have riots in the early 2000 that's why we are back in time , when you seen all these people that are into grime music setting cars on fire and looting Argos and jd sport in happend in Birmingham , Manchester and London , but not the more civilised Glasgow or Ayrshire , if your not happy here you won't be missed |
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Through any era Scotland has provided the music scene with singers and bands of huge note . More recently Palo Nutini , The fratellies ,Twin Atlantic,KT Tunstall , Biffy Clyro,Franz Ferdinand to name afew and highly acclaimed in the music industry. So maybe it's your music taste that's dated op.
I'm not Scots but only found a warm ,open hearted and inclusive welcome from the Scots people . There are idiots and racists anywhere if you choose to look for them . I personally not experienced it here but maybe due to the the circles I move in are normal educated people .
The Scots people refused the waters meters where the south folded .We have free prescriptions ,the envy of most south of the border and fantastic education system (which I have experienced both here and down south . ) so hardly backward and dated lol.
If you feels so strongly the grass is greener elsewhere the have the courage of your convictions rather than bleating negatively . |
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"You see Scotland didn't have riots in the early 2000 that's why we are back in time , when you seen all these people that are into grime music setting cars on fire and looting Argos and jd sport in happend in Birmingham , Manchester and London , but not the more civilised Glasgow or Ayrshire , if your not happy here you won't be missed "
there's riots in every scheme every weekend and that has more to do with scumbags than any kind of music that they may choose to listen to..the riots down south erupted on account of police brutality that lead to the shooting of a young unarmed black male
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My statistical quote on figures was from a number of years ago but the same is relevant to todays version of bnp aka ukip/Britain first or whatever other vile far right political charade that's arisen out of the need to blame someone foreign for all the problems of the country
"Boomboclart! Yea man I hear what your saying on the mixing things up a lil bit with a bit of diversity because in certain pockets of Scotland it's like a timewarp/twighlight zone where some folk still think it's cool to sniff glue and stab each other with broken buckfast bottles for something to do and there are certain outdated and unacceptable schools of thought such as rampant sexism,racism....although I personally think that Scotland is a much more tolerant place than England although I've technically experienced alot more racial incidents here than in England but at least they're nicer about it here than England for the most part statistically speaking Englands bnp membership is something like 6% compared to Scotland's 2% ....the Scots have long been an oppressed people who can relate to the plights of other oppressed people....I love it here for all it's pro's and cons....maybe Ayrshire isn't as much up with the times but I've found that Dundee,fife,Perth,Edinburgh and Glasgow has come a long way in terms of being mode diverse and I never ceases to surprise and amuse me to see some youngster here listening to grime,Jamaican dub/dancehall etc....when not that long ago I was the only one I knew rocking the "ethnic" vibes whilst all my mates were fighting me to put on some rave/techno/trance etc.....the wee man has even come a long way since his first big hit...he's a great guy...I even facilitated a rap battle video with him a while back which was really cool he's assisting in the inevitable change of the scene by embracing new thing's and paving the way for others to follow
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"If your Robson greenin it... Well done 10/10 you got the bites....
If your serious.. Holy moly. M8 where do you like Cumnock....
You have racist friends who you claim are not neds... Hmmm
NED means non educated delinquent.. Exactly how you are coming across right now...
to claim Ayrshire is not diverse is just plain stupid... Ayrshire as a whole is accepting Syrian refugees... Google m8... Shit sorry better call your friends in the midlands this ayrshire dail up Internet is a cu#t.. Ain't it.....
My friends aren't racist. Racism is when you think or imply that another race is somehow inferior because of their race.
Sorry m8. But I would constitute saying. "what colour are they". And "oh a black guy"... In the context you described as highly racist... Or a comment from someone with racist ideology...."
I agree,racism is when you undermine an individual or a group of individuals based apon their ethnicity,color of skin,cultural practices,choice of music etc...discriminating against someone based on the color of their skin is most definitely a clear cut prime example of racism aswell as lack of intelligence,understanding and common sense quick folks grab a book,learn and read something! |
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I like the backwardness of Scotland, I like the fact we are a bit different to England in general and that there are parts In a time warp......do we really as a nation want to be like London, birmingham, Manchester etc ? I think not most would say. |
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"I like the backwardness of Scotland, I like the fact we are a bit different to England in general and that there are parts In a time warp......do we really as a nation want to be like London, birmingham, Manchester etc ? I think not most would say."
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People can wear what they want and listen to what they want, does it really matter what blooming decade it is... nothing better than being in the pub when Bits and Pieces comes on.. the 90s ned in me comes out, here we here we here we fucking go! |
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"Forgot to add...While we're on the subject of Jamaicans...If you say 'beer can' repeatedly it starts to sounds like a Jamaican saying Bacon.
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And if you say Space Ghetto in an American accent it sounds like Spice Girl in a Scottish accent... I piss myself everytime I try it |
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"Aww that's nice you're all cultured because you've been to England aren't you lucky.
Sounds like you are hanging around with the wrong sort of ned in Kilmarnock, you should try to broaden your circle of friends up here.
Slag Ayrshire off all you want but as the saying goes you can take a man out of Ayrshire but you can never take the Ayrshire out a man. You're as narrow minded as the people you talk about.
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pretty much what I was going to say, oh and I liked the way you pre emptied all the people who you were obviously going to get slated by, as insecure! !your attempt to make yourself sound like a well travelled educated guy couldn't have backfired any more if you tried |
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"You need to pull your head out of your arse, because people have a music preference they're backwards? What kind of nonsense is that. You don't like Scotland? Fuck off out of it. Though with an attitude like yours it doesn't matter where you are you'll never be happy or you'll find something to complain about. "
Dam right. Happiness comes from within not with out. But that's not reason to handcuff ourselves. And yes I plan to "fuck off". But not because some random bloke on the internet says so. |
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"You see Scotland didn't have riots in the early 2000 that's why we are back in time , when you seen all these people that are into grime music setting cars on fire and looting Argos and jd sport in happend in Birmingham , Manchester and London , but not the more civilised Glasgow or Ayrshire , if your not happy here you won't be missed "
Civilised Glasgow and Ayrshire? Ayrshire has a history of torture and here in Stevenston they used to fight over bullshit. In Glasgow they kill over football teams. Really civilised...
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"We've got to go to the mainland way down south for my son's graduation. We're dreading it. life just seems so hard and brutal there. Everyone in a hurry. "
It can be hard yes if you let it be. There is always help on offer though for those who really want it. I was brought up on the Isle of Iona. Disgusting place. They bullied my brother off the island just because he was a bit different (Autistic.) So island people are very much "be like us or we'll discriminate and not include you". |
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"Aww that's nice you're all cultured because you've been to England aren't you lucky.
Sounds like you are hanging around with the wrong sort of ned in Kilmarnock, you should try to broaden your circle of friends up here.
Slag Ayrshire off all you want but as the saying goes you can take a man out of Ayrshire but you can never take the Ayrshire out a man. You're as narrow minded as the people you talk about.
pretty much what I was going to say, oh and I liked the way you pre emptied all the people who you were obviously going to get slated by, as insecure! !your attempt to make yourself sound like a well travelled educated guy couldn't have backfired any more if you tried "
The insecure comment is true. Disagreeing with me isn't insecure but being offended by my view is insecure. That's just psychological. You can't be offended if you have no ego. Or if you are the observer rather than your identity. |
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" Ayrshire has a history of torture and here in Stevenston they used to fight over bullshit. In Glasgow they kill over football teams. Really civilised...
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Bullshit/Football teams = same difference really. |
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I think this is about just yanking chains and seeing what the reaction will be.
This guys not on fab looking to swing, he is looking for reactions, his profile is as boring as his so called observations and opinions.
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"I think this is about just yanking chains and seeing what the reaction will be.
This guys not on fab looking to swing, he is looking for reactions, his profile is as boring as his so called observations and opinions.
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ouch lol |
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I live in Fife, Scotland and there is a bit of a Heavy Metal scene here, it's not that big compared to london, but look where all the money is . as a guitar player myself I find musical taste is quite personal to the individual. My wife is a classic rock chick being into Meatloaf, Cher, and all kinds of pop. I am more into the heavier stuff Maiden,Priest,Metallica, Trivium ect. We both get on really well and accept that music is what we make it |
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"I think this is about just yanking chains and seeing what the reaction will be.
This guys not on fab looking to swing, he is looking for reactions, his profile is as boring as his so called observations and opinions.
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Yes my profile is very sparce just now. Not looking to meet for sex that much just now, just like the forums and when I'm ready I'll start looking for something more. My observations and opinions are clearly not boring or no-one would have replied...
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"I think this is about just yanking chains and seeing what the reaction will be.
This guys not on fab looking to swing, he is looking for reactions, his profile is as boring as his so called observations and opinions.
ouch lol"
I refer you to my OP where I state I can't be offended. I recommend it to people, try not having an identity. I learn't it from a guy called Jiddu Krishnamurti (on YouTube) and books like The Power of Now. Not having ego/identity or observing rather than being the observed. Give it go, it has good results |
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It must be a truly enlightening philosophy which teaches you not to take offence but allows you to freely offend others and sit back to "observe". I would say you are very well balanced however. A chip on each shoulder! |
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"It must be a truly enlightening philosophy which teaches you not to take offence but allows you to freely offend others and sit back to "observe". I would say you are very well balanced however. A chip on each shoulder! "
But it's not offensive to others. Why would my opinion be offensive to anyone unless they have given themselves a rigid identity or a self image and my views don't match their self image? It's a choice...
I HAVE SPOKEN!!
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"It must be a truly enlightening philosophy which teaches you not to take offence but allows you to freely offend others and sit back to "observe". I would say you are very well balanced however. A chip on each shoulder!
But it's not offensive to others. Why would my opinion be offensive to anyone unless they have given themselves a rigid identity or a self image and my views don't match their self image? It's a choice...
I HAVE SPOKEN!!
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I'm actually starting to like the OP |
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I'm not into happy hardcore or use the term wideo nor heard it in a long time But does it really matter what music people listen to. I've friends from all over the world whom I share a pint with and I'm glad of the diversity I see in this country. This includes those stuck in little time warps from the 80s and 90s. As long as people are happy that's all that matters. I'd not put anyone down for it. |
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"It must be a truly enlightening philosophy which teaches you not to take offence but allows you to freely offend others and sit back to "observe". I would say you are very well balanced however. A chip on each shoulder!
But it's not offensive to others. Why would my opinion be offensive to anyone unless they have given themselves a rigid identity or a self image and my views don't match their self image? It's a choice...
I HAVE SPOKEN!!
I'm actually starting to like the OP "
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I grew up in a multi cultural yorkshire city and to be contravershal I saw many cultures come and segregate themselves from the existing population. This created no go areas for certain races and made it an unpleasnt place to be at times.
This still exists today whenbI revist and is even worse.
Before anyone screams racist I am not I am a realist who through experience has seen changes to areas and not for the better.
Recent tv documentries on this topic filmed by the police bare witness to the tensions between ethic groups. And issues of cultires clashing to the extent that they explode.
I am very happy to be part of a multi racial community as long as all parties are willing to except each others cultures and views whilst still been part of the native community without creating barriers that exclude people.
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The fact that Scotland isn't modern is by itself, very cool. It doesn't need to be 'hip'. It sells itself nicely, literally.
As for colour perceptions and immigration, I agree, we do need more. Scotland's increasing diversity is an amazing thing and only good for the country.
Colour wise, I still remember like it was yesterday back in 1990 getting off the train to do a gig in the Marquee in London, as a very sheltered country lad (4 people in my class at school country small!) and near shitting a chicken when I saw coloured folks. Had genuinely never seen anyone who wasn't white before and there they were almost a majority where I got off. A proper 'fuhkinell!!'
Grime though, I actually really like it. Son listens to it a lot and I've even downloaded some J Cole and Post Malone just half an hour ago!
Bit about your Neds blasting out 90s shite, what can you do when Scotland's premier 'music festival' has that kind of stuff as its headliners constantly? It lives in the past and services these folk.
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"I grew up in a multi cultural yorkshire city and to be contravershal I saw many cultures come and segregate themselves from the existing population. This created no go areas for certain races and made it an unpleasnt place to be at times.
This still exists today whenbI revist and is even worse.
Before anyone screams racist I am not I am a realist who through experience has seen changes to areas and not for the better.
Recent tv documentries on this topic filmed by the police bare witness to the tensions between ethic groups. And issues of cultires clashing to the extent that they explode.
I am very happy to be part of a multi racial community as long as all parties are willing to except each others cultures and views whilst still been part of the native community without creating barriers that exclude people.
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"I think this is about just yanking chains and seeing what the reaction will be.
This guys not on fab looking to swing, he is looking for reactions, his profile is as boring as his so called observations and opinions.
Yes my profile is very sparce just now. Not looking to meet for sex that much just now, just like the forums and when I'm ready I'll start looking for something more. My observations and opinions are clearly not boring or no-one would have replied...
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They may not be boring but they are for effect. Your points of view are exactly that they belong inside your own head, its your opinion.
To say Scotland is MONOCULTURAL is laughable. Go to the Scottish Government website and see how many language choices for translation that are available. |
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History will teach you that Scotland has offerred some of the worlds greatest discoveries. They led then and in some instances still do . I have had the opportunity to live and work all over the world but never found a more setlled place than Scotland. I met my mrs here my kids were born here and iam very proud of that despite being born an englander.
It may have its quirks but that is all part of its charm.
Why else would millions come to visit year after year? |
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"I think this is about just yanking chains and seeing what the reaction will be.
This guys not on fab looking to swing, he is looking for reactions, his profile is as boring as his so called observations and opinions.
Yes my profile is very sparce just now. Not looking to meet for sex that much just now, just like the forums and when I'm ready I'll start looking for something more. My observations and opinions are clearly not boring or no-one would have replied...
They may not be boring but they are for effect. Your points of view are exactly that they belong inside your own head, its your opinion.
To say Scotland is MONOCULTURAL is laughable. Go to the Scottish Government website and see how many language choices for translation that are available. "
Seriously. Scotland is diverse because the government website has multiply language options.
Scotland is so fucking goofy. |
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"Rule Britania Britania rules the waves etc etc etc "
Not everyone reduces everything to dumb national politics.
I support NO nations. Not "Britannia".
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"History will teach you that Scotland has offerred some of the worlds greatest discoveries. They led then and in some instances still do . I have had the opportunity to live and work all over the world but never found a more setlled place than Scotland. I met my mrs here my kids were born here and iam very proud of that despite being born an englander.
It may have its quirks but that is all part of its charm.
Why else would millions come to visit year after year?"
Probably because millions weren't abused by Scottish dopes growing up
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"I call Troll.
I call, having a downer moment and feeling trapped..."
Only person trapping you is YOU.
If you seriously want to change things you will ,if not you'll make excuses why you cant .
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"Then why are you still here?.. sorry if this has been asked, couldnt be bothered reading all the posts
Just money basically"
If you're prepared to endure an evidentially, miserable existence, purely for the attainment of money, then I'm afraid my sympathy for you has run out.
If you're not already regretting this choice, then I expect you will some day.
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Probably because millions weren't abused by Scottish dopes growing up
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"Then why are you still here?.. sorry if this has been asked, couldnt be bothered reading all the posts
Just money basically
If you're prepared to endure an evidentially, miserable existence, purely for the attainment of money, then I'm afraid my sympathy for you has run out.
If you're not already regretting this choice, then I expect you will some day.
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"Then why are you still here?.. sorry if this has been asked, couldnt be bothered reading all the posts
Just money basically
If you're prepared to endure an evidentially, miserable existence, purely for the attainment of money, then I'm afraid my sympathy for you has run out.
If you're not already regretting this choice, then I expect you will some day.
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Probably because millions weren't abused by Scottish dopes growing up
There appears to be only one dope here, and, IMO, he deserves all the abuse coming his way. "
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"I call Troll.
I call, having a downer moment and feeling trapped...
Only person trapping you is YOU.
If you seriously want to change things you will ,if not you'll make excuses why you cant .
But best not to make your own choices and the bitch and moan about it . "
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"I call Troll.
I call, having a downer moment and feeling trapped...
Only person trapping you is YOU.
If you seriously want to change things you will ,if not you'll make excuses why you cant .
But best not to make your own choices and the bitch and moan about it .
Not really though. We live in a rationing system which is the money system. I can't just move for free. "
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"I call Troll.
I call, having a downer moment and feeling trapped...
Only person trapping you is YOU.
If you seriously want to change things you will ,if not you'll make excuses why you cant .
But best not to make your own choices and the bitch and moan about it .
Not really though. We live in a rationing system which is the money system. I can't just move for free. "
As I said if you actually want something to happen then you will .or just continue to put up barriers and make excuses but please don't bitch and moan .Only person who can change their life is you . There are people who have accomplished much more with far far less . Move or don't either way pull up your big girl panties and just get on with it. |
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"I call Troll.
I call, having a downer moment and feeling trapped...
Only person trapping you is YOU.
If you seriously want to change things you will ,if not you'll make excuses why you cant .
But best not to make your own choices and the bitch and moan about it .
Not really though. We live in a rationing system which is the money system. I can't just move for free.
As I said if you actually want something to happen then you will .or just continue to put up barriers and make excuses but please don't bitch and moan .Only person who can change their life is you . There are people who have accomplished much more with far far less . Move or don't either way pull up your big girl panties and just get on with it. "
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"I call Troll.
I call, having a downer moment and feeling trapped...
Only person trapping you is YOU.
If you seriously want to change things you will ,if not you'll make excuses why you cant .
But best not to make your own choices and the bitch and moan about it .
Not really though. We live in a rationing system which is the money system. I can't just move for free.
As I said if you actually want something to happen then you will .or just continue to put up barriers and make excuses but please don't bitch and moan .Only person who can change their life is you . There are people who have accomplished much more with far far less . Move or don't either way pull up your big girl panties and just get on with it.
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