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"The Grand National is always a terrific spectacle, looking forward to watching it.
I never bet on it though, it's too much of a lottery of a horse race to gamble on. "
Thats why i gamble on it ... Its a lottery and just a bit of fun ... Dont gamble the rest of the year |
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"I don't bet on it, horses die and I'm not cool with that
Completely this. It's animal cruelty "
This 10000000% such a shame the amount of horses that are shot at the end of the day. All for human enjoyment .
Really pisses me off this  |
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If the horse does not want to jump the fence it jusr refuses, it is not as if it is on a par with fox hunting?
It is a contact sport involving animals, so do we ban all contact sports regardless of the species involved?
I have backed Many Clouds and Gallant Oscar  |
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"If the horse does not want to jump the fence it jusr refuses, it is not as if it is on a par with fox hunting?
It is a contact sport involving animals, so do we ban all contact sports regardless of the species involved?
Read up on it
I have backed Many Clouds and Gallant Oscar "
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Horses are often drugged to mask injuries and whipped to the final line. It's not for me. I can't watch it much to my families disgust as a close family member is a trainer. It's beyond cruel.  |
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"Horses are often drugged to mask injuries and whipped to the final line. It's not for me. I can't watch it much to my families disgust as a close family member is a trainer. It's beyond cruel. "
This. And thats not the half of it |
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"Horses are often drugged to mask injuries and whipped to the final line. It's not for me. I can't watch it much to my families disgust as a close family member is a trainer. It's beyond cruel.
This. And thats not the half of it "
It is a very highly regulated sport, do you think that drugging a horse out of it's long face would not go unnoticed? |
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"Horses are often drugged to mask injuries and whipped to the final line. It's not for me. I can't watch it much to my families disgust as a close family member is a trainer. It's beyond cruel.
This. And thats not the half of it
It is a very highly regulated sport, do you think that drugging a horse out of it's long face would not go unnoticed? "
Yes they are |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Horses are often drugged to mask injuries and whipped to the final line. It's not for me. I can't watch it much to my families disgust as a close family member is a trainer. It's beyond cruel.
This. And thats not the half of it
It is a very highly regulated sport, do you think that drugging a horse out of it's long face would not go unnoticed? "
A wee Google will bring up a string of cases for you. |
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"I don't bet on it, horses die and I'm not cool with that
Completely this. It's animal cruelty "
Im the exact same don't believe their life is worth the price of a bet !!  ,all them poor horse's getting hit over an over with a whip  barbaric!!!! |
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I have shutthefrontdoor (familys pick),vics canvase(mine),rule the world (our wee boys pick),many clouds (mine that my dad put on for me) holywell (our daughters) and another 1 i cant think the name of lol hopefully i will get a winner lol xxxx |
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"I don't bet on it, horses die and I'm not cool with that
Completely this. It's animal cruelty
This 10000000% such a shame the amount of horses that are shot at the end of the day. All for human enjoyment .
Really pisses me off this "
if only peopke could see the aftermath, they don't show that in the media. 4 deaths so far 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't bet on it, horses die and I'm not cool with that
Completely this. It's animal cruelty
This 10000000% such a shame the amount of horses that are shot at the end of the day. All for human enjoyment .
Really pisses me off this
if only peopke could see the aftermath, they don't show that in the media. 4 deaths so far
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Yea it's not very appealing to show the aftermath. Poor horses |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So were all vegetarians on fab?? It was a question thats turned into a debate. Miss dynomite very apt name as your harmless questions blew up in your face (boom boom)  |
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"It's a forum it's for discussions is it not. Or are we all supposed to just nod and agree with everyone "
Nope i believe in freedom of speech & no-one will tell me otherwise. Are you a vegetarian?
Dynomites question was harmless is all im saying |
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I think folk get way to absorbed in animal politics. if we didnt domesticate them there would not be so many same with most farm yard animals. But we do and we do it with a purpose in mind (im a horse lover by the way)whether it be to hack out how many are harmed on public roads ?. Showjumping three day eventing barging they all carry risks. And the best of intentions are always with the horse. I wonder if many have contact with racehorses these beasts love to race (family has had a few) so if you removed it this line of horses lifes wouldnt be as fulfilled as it is now |
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"It's a forum it's for discussions is it not. Or are we all supposed to just nod and agree with everyone
Nope i believe in freedom of speech & no-one will tell me otherwise. Are you a vegetarian?
Dynomites question was harmless is all im saying"
Im vegetarian. And use cruelty free products |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It sayed after race all horses were fine "
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/racing/grand-national-2016-four-horses-dead-at-aintree-meeting-so-far-after-mid-race-injuries-a6976496.html |
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"What determines why a horse should be killed after the grand national? Please forgive my ignorance im asking a genuine question"
only ever on medical grounds some would have you believe it was other things. If its on course screens are put up the race course vet will attend and make a decision if the injurys are treatable or if its more humane to allow the horse to die from medical intervention. Off course could be heart problems airway problems gastric problems. And again most responsible owners contact their vet who makes the decision (yes money can come into it with the price of treatment able to run into tens of thousands)
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"I am a vegetarian "
strange question here but certain studys have shown that plants feel pain what would happen if this was proven would yourself and other vegitarians have to find another means of nutrition. Curiousity gets the better of me at times
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"I am a vegetarian strange question here but certain studys have shown that plants feel pain what would happen if this was proven would yourself and other vegitarians have to find another means of nutrition. Curiousity gets the better of me at times"
I think people's reasons for being vegetarian may be a bit more complex than that |
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"What determines why a horse should be killed after the grand national? Please forgive my ignorance im asking a genuine questiononly ever on medical grounds some would have you believe it was other things. If its on course screens are put up the race course vet will attend and make a decision if the injurys are treatable or if its more humane to allow the horse to die from medical intervention. Off course could be heart problems airway problems gastric problems. And again most responsible owners contact their vet who makes the decision (yes money can come into it with the price of treatment able to run into tens of thousands)"
Sounds as though the horses arent fit which i doubt.i assume horses arent killed if they break a leg. Hope not |
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"I am a vegetarian strange question here but certain studys have shown that plants feel pain what would happen if this was proven would yourself and other vegitarians have to find another means of nutrition. Curiousity gets the better of me at times
I think people's reasons for being vegetarian may be a bit more complex than that"
im sure they are but most say cruelty so if proven that veg feel pain is it not reasonable that with the same reason they would have to become fruitarian (fallen fruit only) |
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"What determines why a horse should be killed after the grand national? Please forgive my ignorance im asking a genuine questiononly ever on medical grounds some would have you believe it was other things. If its on course screens are put up the race course vet will attend and make a decision if the injurys are treatable or if its more humane to allow the horse to die from medical intervention. Off course could be heart problems airway problems gastric problems. And again most responsible owners contact their vet who makes the decision (yes money can come into it with the price of treatment able to run into tens of thousands)
Sounds as though the horses arent fit which i doubt.i assume horses arent killed if they break a leg. Hope not"
same as any other animal how severe and unfortunatly cost to fix. I know from personal experiance its not cheap |
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"What determines why a horse should be killed after the grand national? Please forgive my ignorance im asking a genuine questiononly ever on medical grounds some would have you believe it was other things. If its on course screens are put up the race course vet will attend and make a decision if the injurys are treatable or if its more humane to allow the horse to die from medical intervention. Off course could be heart problems airway problems gastric problems. And again most responsible owners contact their vet who makes the decision (yes money can come into it with the price of treatment able to run into tens of thousands)
Sounds as though the horses arent fit which i doubt.i assume horses arent killed if they break a leg. Hope notsame as any other animal how severe and unfortunatly cost to fix. I know from personal experiance its not cheap "
Id literally die for my animals. Love them so much |
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"I am a vegetarian strange question here but certain studys have shown that plants feel pain what would happen if this was proven would yourself and other vegitarians have to find another means of nutrition. Curiousity gets the better of me at times
I think people's reasons for being vegetarian may be a bit more complex than that
Im sure they are but most say cruelty so if proven that veg feel pain is it not reasonable that with the same reason they would have to become fruitarian (fallen fruit only)"
Lol yeah ok |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What determines why a horse should be killed after the grand national? Please forgive my ignorance im asking a genuine questiononly ever on medical grounds some would have you believe it was other things. If its on course screens are put up the race course vet will attend and make a decision if the injurys are treatable or if its more humane to allow the horse to die from medical intervention. Off course could be heart problems airway problems gastric problems. And again most responsible owners contact their vet who makes the decision (yes money can come into it with the price of treatment able to run into tens of thousands)
Sounds as though the horses arent fit which i doubt.i assume horses arent killed if they break a leg. Hope not"
Sometimes it is a broken leg or similar injury. Horse racing can be pretty cynical, if a horse is no longer an earner owners might decide to destroy it.
That said, the story of Dream Alliance is proof that it doesnt need to be that way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Goodness me all this from an innocent question.
What a difference a year makes tho in some peoples opinions  "
Such a simply question yet not so simply answers!!
Well I was going to place a bet on Rule The World as it was our wedding song. Regrettably I was too shy to go into the bookies incase I made an arse of myself when filling in the coupon or something!!!
Who's the arse now!!!! Moi  |
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"I have shutthefrontdoor (familys pick),vics canvase(mine),rule the world (our wee boys pick),many clouds (mine that my dad put on for me) holywell (our daughters) and another 1 i cant think the name of lol hopefully i will get a winner lol xxxx"
You must have won a fortune today. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If the horses cant race then what about paralympic dressage?"
You are a total prick.
Paralympic reference shows you have no regard for the ability of anyone who achieves a sporting triumph even though they have a disability.
Cheap shot at a joke.
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"I have shutthefrontdoor (familys pick),vics canvase(mine),rule the world (our wee boys pick),many clouds (mine that my dad put on for me) holywell (our daughters) and another 1 i cant think the name of lol hopefully i will get a winner lol xxxx
You must have won a fortune today. "
 emmm yeah i done not to bad i must say lol xxxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If the horses cant race then what about paralympic dressage?
You are a total prick.
Paralympic reference shows you have no regard for the ability of anyone who achieves a sporting triumph even though they have a disability.
Cheap shot at a joke.
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Thankyou for the swearing name calling
So ive no regard for the ability of anyone who achieves a triumph in your eyes????
For the record im a 3 times world champion in the field i participated in, thats fact. I have the highest regard for winners |
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