FabSwingers.com > Forums > Scotland > EU Vote; what will scots do
EU Vote; what will scots do
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
Nicola & the SNP think the whole of Scotland or at least all SNP followers and those who voted YES in the referendum will opt to remain in the EU
what are your views on this?
I voted Yes and I do vote SNP, but I disagree with remaining in EU, I also consider that if we as the UK vote out of the UE, I would be happy to remain as the UK and work for a better future
Who do the SNP think that people who supported them in the past will all vote to remain in EU? Why  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
near Glasgow |
The SNP's big downfall is their arrogance, they think they speak for all Scots.
Yes, we Scots want a greater say in how we're governed, but so also do many folk in the north of England. It's the fact that so much of Britain is concentrated on London and 'the south' that's the problem.
What we really want/need is the UCB. The United Countries of Britain, independent of mainland Europe and able/free to take on the world, unfettered by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
Getting back to the OP's question, as the years pass the more the SNP show their real colours, they're little more than a bunch of rabblerousers. The more power they get, the more their inadequacies are revealed. The chickens are coming home to roost, they can't continue blaming everything on Westminster, and the 'terrible' Tories.
And if Britain votes to leave the EU, and the SNP call another independence referendum, I reckon they'll get their final comeuppance. The SNP don't speak for all Scots.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"The SNP's big downfall is their arrogance, they think they speak for all Scots.
Yes, we Scots want a greater say in how we're governed, but so also do many folk in the north of England. It's the fact that so much of Britain is concentrated on London and 'the south' that's the problem.
What we really want/need is the UCB. The United Countries of Britain, independent of mainland Europe and able/free to take on the world, unfettered by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
Getting back to the OP's question, as the years pass the more the SNP show their real colours, they're little more than a bunch of rabblerousers. The more power they get, the more their inadequacies are revealed. The chickens are coming home to roost, they can't continue blaming everything on Westminster, and the 'terrible' Tories.
And if Britain votes to leave the EU, and the SNP call another independence referendum, I reckon they'll get their final comeuppance. The SNP don't speak for all Scots.
"
while agreeing with your points regarding eu. Why go into an attack on the snp whos to say they couldnt do a decent job. Its not as if they could do much worse than how the big two have goverened us so far. I wouldnt vote snp but I do see the appeal and to be honest I am more inclined to believe that tbey would try to do as they say as apposed to the others who say anything to get our approval with no intention of following through with it |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Let's fast forward 4 or 5 years into the future, three serious a#seholes in major positions of power, Boris, Vladimir and Donald. The United Kingdom is out of the EU and we as four nations are standing strong, just a guess, but Scotland will be the first to be cast aside and the price of oil will be cheaper than milk. How's Nicola and Alex gonna fund our country when we have ride all to trade with, we could always take in refugees . Purely my outlook on the situation only.
I'm voting to stay btw. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Scotland needs EU, just need to go around any of the cities, how many europeans are working there? do you think all of them will stay if uk goes out? do you believe they would pay over £900 to get the british citizenship? the scottish population is not the youngest, how will be the pensions paid in the future? be out of european union includes taxes for exportations, which will come with scottish products' prices being more expensive in Europe and so their amount of sales going down, about oil, scotland is not in the best moment for oil, the price is taken down by the producers by producing more, which has made to scotland based companies to stop extracting oil as extract oil in the north sea is more expensive than extract it in saudi arabia or similar countries. tourism, big part of scottish economy is based on the tourism, scotland is beautiful, but you can find beautiful places somewhere else and save the price and annoyance of having to get a visa, and it could make the tourism rates go down
I think SNP think all the YES voters will vote to stay in EU because it was part of the YES manifesto for scottish independence, while there was considered the incoming referendum for leaving the EU |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago
south east |
"Nicola & the SNP think the whole of Scotland or at least all SNP followers and those who voted YES in the referendum will opt to remain in the EU
what are your views on this?
I voted Yes and I do vote SNP, but I disagree with remaining in EU, I also consider that if we as the UK vote out of the UE, I would be happy to remain as the UK and work for a better future
Who do the SNP think that people who supported them in the past will all vote to remain in EU? Why "
I think you have twisted and put your own little spin on whats actually being said .... nicola and the snp fully back staying in europe..however what they have said is ... IF scotlands voters ( not snp voters but all of scotlands voters) vote to stay but the rest of uk vote to leave ..THAT scenario couldnt be accepted and would most likely trigger a second referendum ..if scotland votes to leave ..they will have to accept the scottish voters views ..simples
I vote for SNP and voted yes ..and as it stands right now have no idea how i will vote on europe  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Since when have snp did what the Scottish people want ? Once in a generation they said and 55% voted to stay in great Britain . Every day we hear about another referendum . All snp want is independence no matter what the Scottish people want . I voted no , will never vote snp and will vote to leave |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Sadly we voted to remain part of the UK. If the UK votes to leave EU then so be it. We are part of the UK whether we like it or not.
The sheer arrogance of some of these SNP fanatics that should Scotland vote in favour of "In" then we would become independent. What a load of shite, by that logic Glasgow and Dundee should become independent states from the rest of Scotland and the UK as those places both voted Yes |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Sadly we voted to remain part of the UK. If the UK votes to leave EU then so be it. We are part of the UK whether we like it or not.
The sheer arrogance of some of these SNP fanatics that should Scotland vote in favour of "In" then we would become independent. What a load of shite, by that logic Glasgow and Dundee should become independent states from the rest of Scotland and the UK as those places both voted Yes"
People also need to remember that in the run up to the referendum the EU said they wanted nothing at all to do with us had we gained independence, why on earth should we be begging to join their little clique? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
OPINION polls say majority of us in favour of staying in including the polls her own party commission it's not arrogance it's how politics works it's number crunching. That said it could backfire on SNP if people think voting out will get a new referendum. She may have a large group voting to come out who just want to trigger a new referendum |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I think it would be great if the whole planet just became one massive country with one government all working to together instead of all being split u and fighting each other |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Let's fast forward 4 or 5 years into the future, three serious a#seholes in major positions of power, Boris, Vladimir and Donald. The United Kingdom is out of the EU and we as four nations are standing strong, just a guess, but Scotland will be the first to be cast aside and the price of oil will be cheaper than milk. How's Nicola and Alex gonna fund our country when we have ride all to trade with, we could always take in refugees . Purely my outlook on the situation only.
I'm voting to stay btw. "
non of these countries listed below are in the EU and seem to be okay; I think the UK can do far better than most listed
AFGHANISTAN
ALBANIA
ALGERIA
AMERICAN SAMOA
ANDORRA
ANGOLA
ANGUILLA
ANTARCTICA
ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA
ARGENTINA
ARMENIA
ARUBA
AUSTRALIA
AZERBAIJAN
BAHAMAS
BAHRAIN
BANGLADESH
BARBADOS
BELARUS
BELIZE
BENIN
BERMUDA
BHUTAN
BOLIVIA
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
BOTSWANA
BOUVET ISLAND
BRAZIL
BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM
BURKINA FASO
BURUNDI
CAMBODIA
CAMEROON
CANADA
CAPE VERDE
CAYMAN ISLANDS
CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
CEUTA
CHAD
LATIN AMERICA
CHINA
CHRISTMAS ISLAND
COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS
COLOMBIA
COMOROS
CONGO
COOK ISLANDS
COSTA RICA
COTE D'IVOIRE
CUBA
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO
DJIBOUTI
DOMINICA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
ECUADOR
EGYPT
EL SALVADOR
EQUATORIAL GUINEA
ERITREA
ETHIOPIA
FALKLAND ISLANDS
FAROE ISLANDS
FIJI
FRENCH POLYNESIA
FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
GABON
GAMBIA
GEORGIA
GHANA
GIBRALTAR
GREENLAND
GRENADA
GUAM
GUATEMALA
GUINEA
GUINEA-BISSAU
GUYANA
HAITI
HEARD AND MC DONALD ISLANDS
HONDURAS
HONG KONG
ICELAND
INDIA
INDONESIA
IRAN
IRAQ
ISRAEL
JAMAICA
JAPAN
JORDAN
KAZAKHSTAN
KENYA
KIRIBATI
KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF (NORTH)
KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (SOUTH)
KOSOVO*
KUWAIT
KYRGYZSTAN
LAOS
LEBANON
LESOTHO
LIBERIA
LIBYA
LIECHTENSTEIN
MACAU
MACEDONIA (THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF)
MADAGASCAR
MALAWI
MALAYSIA
MALDIVES
MALI
MARSHALL ISLANDS (THE REPUBLIC OF)
MAURITANIA
MAURITIUS
MELILLA
CEUTA AND MELILLA
MEXICO
LATIN AMERICA
MICRONESIA (FEDERATED STATES OF)
MOLDOVA (THE REPUBLIC OF)
MONGOLIA
MONTENEGRO
MONTSERRAT
MOROCCO
MOZAMBIQUE
MYANMAR
NAMIBIA
NAURU
NEPAL
NETHERLANDS ANTILLES
NEW CALEDONIA
NEW ZEALAND
NICARAGUA
NIGER
NIGERIA
NIUE
NORFOLK ISLAND
NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS
NORWAY
PALESTINE**
OMAN
PAKISTAN
PALAU
PANAMA
PAPUA NEW GUINEA
PARAGUAY
PERU
PHILIPPINES
PITCAIRN ISLANDS
QATAR
RUSSIAN FEDERATION
RWANDA
SAINT BARTHELEMY
SAINT HELENA (INCL ASCENSION ISLAND AND TRISTAN DE CUNHA)
SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS
SAINT LUCIA
SAINT PIERRE AND MIQUELON
SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES
SAMOA
SAN MARINO
SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE
SAUDI ARABIA
SENEGAL
SERBIA
SEYCHELLES
SIERRA LEONE
SINGAPORE
SOLOMON ISLANDS
SOMALIA
SOUTH AFRICA
SOUTH AFRICA
SOUTH GEORGIA AND THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS
SOUTH SUDAN
SRI LANKA
SUDAN
SURINAME
SWAZILAND
SWITZERLAND
SYRIA
TAIWAN
TAJIKISTAN
TANZANIA
THAILAND
TIMOR LESTE
TOGO
TOKELAU
TONGA
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
TUNISIA
TURKEY
TURKMENISTAN
TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS
TUVALU
UGANDA
UKRAINE
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
UNITED STATES
UNITED STATES MINOR OUTLYING ISLANDS
URUGUAY
UZBEKISTAN
VANUATU
VATICAN CITY STATE (HOLY SEE)
VENEZUELA
VIETNAM
VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH)
VIRGIN ISLANDS (U.S.)
WALLIS AND FUTUNA ISLANDS
YEMEN
ZAMBIA
ZIMBABWE
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago
A world of my own |
"I think it would be great if the whole planet just became one massive country with one government all working to together instead of all being split u and fighting each other"
This
If we didn't have politics and religions driving wars the world would be a far nicer place. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"It's out for me I know a company in Airdrie that's got a European union grant to build a new factory and under the terms it must employ at least 40% eastern Europeans "
I'd like to see the details on that, I don't believe you I'm afraid as this would be an infringment of EU competition rules. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Let's fast forward 4 or 5 years into the future, three serious a#seholes in major positions of power, Boris, Vladimir and Donald. The United Kingdom is out of the EU and we as four nations are standing strong, just a guess, but Scotland will be the first to be cast aside and the price of oil will be cheaper than milk. How's Nicola and Alex gonna fund our country when we have ride all to trade with, we could always take in refugees . Purely my outlook on the situation only.
I'm voting to stay btw.
non of these countries listed below are in the EU and seem to be okay; I think the UK can do far better than most listed
AFGHANISTAN
ALBANIA
ALGERIA
AMERICAN SAMOA
ANDORRA
ANGOLA
ANGUILLA
ANTARCTICA
ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA
ARGENTINA
ARMENIA
ARUBA
AUSTRALIA
AZERBAIJAN
BAHAMAS
BAHRAIN
BANGLADESH
BARBADOS
BELARUS
BELIZE
BENIN
BERMUDA
BHUTAN
BOLIVIA
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
BOTSWANA
BOUVET ISLAND
BRAZIL
BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM
BURKINA FASO
BURUNDI
CAMBODIA
CAMEROON
CANADA
CAPE VERDE
CAYMAN ISLANDS
CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
CEUTA
CHAD
LATIN AMERICA
CHINA
CHRISTMAS ISLAND
COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS
COLOMBIA
COMOROS
CONGO
COOK ISLANDS
COSTA RICA
COTE D'IVOIRE
CUBA
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO
DJIBOUTI
DOMINICA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
ECUADOR
EGYPT
EL SALVADOR
EQUATORIAL GUINEA
ERITREA
ETHIOPIA
FALKLAND ISLANDS
FAROE ISLANDS
FIJI
FRENCH POLYNESIA
FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
GABON
GAMBIA
GEORGIA
GHANA
GIBRALTAR
GREENLAND
GRENADA
GUAM
GUATEMALA
GUINEA
GUINEA-BISSAU
GUYANA
HAITI
HEARD AND MC DONALD ISLANDS
HONDURAS
HONG KONG
ICELAND
INDIA
INDONESIA
IRAN
IRAQ
ISRAEL
JAMAICA
JAPAN
JORDAN
KAZAKHSTAN
KENYA
KIRIBATI
KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF (NORTH)
KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (SOUTH)
KOSOVO*
KUWAIT
KYRGYZSTAN
LAOS
LEBANON
LESOTHO
LIBERIA
LIBYA
LIECHTENSTEIN
MACAU
MACEDONIA (THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF)
MADAGASCAR
MALAWI
MALAYSIA
MALDIVES
MALI
MARSHALL ISLANDS (THE REPUBLIC OF)
MAURITANIA
MAURITIUS
MELILLA
CEUTA AND MELILLA
MEXICO
LATIN AMERICA
MICRONESIA (FEDERATED STATES OF)
MOLDOVA (THE REPUBLIC OF)
MONGOLIA
MONTENEGRO
MONTSERRAT
MOROCCO
MOZAMBIQUE
MYANMAR
NAMIBIA
NAURU
NEPAL
NETHERLANDS ANTILLES
NEW CALEDONIA
NEW ZEALAND
NICARAGUA
NIGER
NIGERIA
NIUE
NORFOLK ISLAND
NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS
NORWAY
PALESTINE**
OMAN
PAKISTAN
PALAU
PANAMA
PAPUA NEW GUINEA
PARAGUAY
PERU
PHILIPPINES
PITCAIRN ISLANDS
QATAR
RUSSIAN FEDERATION
RWANDA
SAINT BARTHELEMY
SAINT HELENA (INCL ASCENSION ISLAND AND TRISTAN DE CUNHA)
SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS
SAINT LUCIA
SAINT PIERRE AND MIQUELON
SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES
SAMOA
SAN MARINO
SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE
SAUDI ARABIA
SENEGAL
SERBIA
SEYCHELLES
SIERRA LEONE
SINGAPORE
SOLOMON ISLANDS
SOMALIA
SOUTH AFRICA
SOUTH AFRICA
SOUTH GEORGIA AND THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS
SOUTH SUDAN
SRI LANKA
SUDAN
SURINAME
SWAZILAND
SWITZERLAND
SYRIA
TAIWAN
TAJIKISTAN
TANZANIA
THAILAND
TIMOR LESTE
TOGO
TOKELAU
TONGA
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
TUNISIA
TURKEY
TURKMENISTAN
TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS
TUVALU
UGANDA
UKRAINE
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
UNITED STATES
UNITED STATES MINOR OUTLYING ISLANDS
URUGUAY
UZBEKISTAN
VANUATU
VATICAN CITY STATE (HOLY SEE)
VENEZUELA
VIETNAM
VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH)
VIRGIN ISLANDS (U.S.)
WALLIS AND FUTUNA ISLANDS
YEMEN
ZAMBIA
ZIMBABWE
"
ceuta and melilla are not members of EU because they are not countries vatican city is a state with no production, the title of country is more a mere cortesy, they don't have a health system, neither employment system, neither security or army neither borders, is just a city where the pope lives and they have a bank, latin america is not a country, is kind of weird mention the countries and after latin america, do you know there is a deal between latin american countries and a few years back they were studying to implement a common currency? also there is UE and and a deal with other countries which even being out of european union they are allow to deal inside like members, like norway, iceland, greenland is part of the danish kingdom |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"The SNP's big downfall is their arrogance, they think they speak for all Scots.
Yes, we Scots want a greater say in how we're governed, but so also do many folk in the north of England. It's the fact that so much of Britain is concentrated on London and 'the south' that's the problem.
What we really want/need is the UCB. The United Countries of Britain, independent of mainland Europe and able/free to take on the world, unfettered by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
Getting back to the OP's question, as the years pass the more the SNP show their real colours, they're little more than a bunch of rabblerousers. The more power they get, the more their inadequacies are revealed. The chickens are coming home to roost, they can't continue blaming everything on Westminster, and the 'terrible' Tories.
And if Britain votes to leave the EU, and the SNP call another independence referendum, I reckon they'll get their final comeuppance. The SNP don't speak for all Scots.
while agreeing with your points regarding eu. Why go into an attack on the snp whos to say they couldnt do a decent job. Its not as if they could do much worse than how the big two have goverened us so far. I wouldnt vote snp but I do see the appeal and to be honest I am more inclined to believe that tbey would try to do as they say as apposed to the others who say anything to get our approval with no intention of following through with it"
Totally agree with you here. As a non voter. Purely because I don't fell their is currently a political party that supports my views. I do agree that the SNP are making in my opinion some good noises and we do need drastic change after all People are depending on food banks, bankers getting away with fraud while houses are being repossessed ect..
I feel we need an Iceland style overhaul. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
" which even being out of european union they are allow to deal inside like members, like norway, iceland, greenland is part of the danish kingdom"
Greenland, the only country ever to leave the EU. Although it remains part of the kingdom of Denmark, with whom it joined what was then the EC in 1973, by the early 1980s it had successfully negotiated an exit strategy
Well done Greenland, more guts than the people of UK, we will see!!! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Since when have snp did what the Scottish people want ? Once in a generation they said and 55% voted to stay in great Britain . Every day we hear about another referendum . All snp want is independence no matter what the Scottish people want . I voted no , will never vote snp and will vote to leave "
Couldn't have put it better myself |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"All snp want is independence no matter what the Scottish people want" ....Of course, independence is the primary motivation of the SNP. The clue is in the title. However, that can only be achieved by a majority voting in favour.
As for "once in a generation", that was not part of the prospectus and such a notion would be a denial of democracy to future voters. Salmond may have uttered that once or twice, but the rest of us in the YES movement, which is so much bigger than the SNP, is "Aye, right! That will be for us to decide."
Getting back to the EU vote - like the indyref, it's all about democracy. If you are happy to surrender decision making to people in a distant capital who care little for your best interests, then vote for the dysfunctional status quo.
The EU is deeply anti-democratic and a million miles away from the free-trade common market which Britain joined. We know from Eurocrats that the only response they offer to Europe's many problems is more Europe.
If we vote to remain, they will be ruthless with the UK. Worse, they are proposing incorporating more poverty-stricken countries in eastern Europe and, incredibly, Turkey - a quasi-fascist state with a horrific human rights record and bordered by so many countries in conflict.
Europe is about to implode under the economic and social strains which are all too evident; we should take this opportunity to say bye bye Brussels. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"".
If we vote to remain, they will be ruthless with the UK. Worse, they are proposing incorporating more poverty-stricken countries in eastern Europe and, incredibly, Turkey - a quasi-fascist state with a horrific human rights record and bordered by so many countries in conflict.
Europe is about to implode under the economic and social strains which are all too evident; we should take this opportunity to say bye bye Brussels. "
The more people that realise about Turkey the better, sadly most kids in the UK don't know this and will be voting because they like to go on holiday in EU
sad & dissapointing |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
Boris was selected by Cameron to act as an "out" runner
He wants to put across to the public that the ones running the "out" campaign are fools and encourage the public to vote to remain
Its a huge plot and it seems to be working well |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
