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"... what do you believe in... Discuss  "
Both
Positive things:
What's meant for you won't pass you by (fate)
But its up to you whether you accept the opportunity when it's presented to you (free will)
Negative things:
Bad shit happens 
Sometimes there is no reason for it, it just is. At this point if it helps with processing the event to belive it's all part of a grand design then that's fine.
What do you think?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"... what do you believe in... Discuss
Both
Positive things:
What's meant for you won't pass you by (fate)
But its up to you whether you accept the opportunity when it's presented to you (free will)
Negative things:
Bad shit happens
Sometimes there is no reason for it, it just is. At this point if it helps with processing the event to belive it's all part of a grand design then that's fine.
What do you think?
Ex
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Pretty good summary of my thoughts... I think you have a certain fate/life/set of cicumstances. Free will is how you deal with them.
Shit does happen too and life isn't getting at anyone personally... things happen and we all have something to deal with, good bad or indifferent.
The challenge is to grow and overcome the difficulties as best we can.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Free will, fate is what you make of it.
We do have some predetermines limitations though, DNA; tall/short fat/thin smart/dumb pretty/ugly schizophrenic/psychopathic
The rest is choice. |
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"Don't believe in fate. There's also scientific research out there that free will may not be what we think it is. Basically our brain is making decisions before we even think of them."
agree with this social conditioning and media grooming has got thebetter of most folk I rebel against conformity
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Definitely both! Fate made mr become redundant this time last year, free will made us stick together and move in, again fate made Me redundant at summertime pushing him to get a ft job. Now both settled into work and things are going up after our incredibly dark spell  |
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I don't believe in free will at all. It's either fate or cause and effect. I don't think things have been 'planned' so to speak. Just actions and reactions.
Most people who believe in free will probably don't understand systems. i.e. interacting parts of a whole system.
For free will to be real, we'd have to be separate from everything in the entire of existence. |
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I equate the belief in free will as similar to when they believe the world was flat. It made sense to them at the time but it only made sense to them because of their limited knowledge at the time |
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I don't believe in free will at all. It's either fate or cause and effect. I don't think things have been 'planned' so to speak. Just actions and reactions.
Actions and reactions - are they pre-determined or freely determined?
Most people who believe in free will probably don't understand systems. i.e. interacting parts of a whole system.
And the evidence for this apparent statistical insight is based on what?
For free will to be real, we'd have to be separate from everything in the entire of existence.
Why?
"I equate the belief in free will as similar to when they believe the world was flat.
Funnily enough, the belief that you espouse is more readily associated with a time when it was generally accepted that the world was flat.
It made sense to them at the time but it only made sense to them because of their limited knowledge at the time
I'm done here. "
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I think free will creates fate ...We are all gifted with free will ..to do as we please yeah. But this choice determines our path ...Therefore our fate. Fate however is not forever as the next choice we make changes that too..so to round up cock pics turn me on but if it's over the bog u have determined ur own fate ...
Just an example of how fate can be good or bad  |
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Why?
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Because Stone Cold said so
Really though just because I don't believe in self activating mechanisms. I'm not trying to smart by typing that but that's the best way to explain I think. Our behavior and decisions are just part of a process |
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"I don't believe in free will at all. It's either fate or cause and effect. I don't think things have been 'planned' so to speak. Just actions and reactions.
Actions and reactions - are they pre-determined or freely determined?
Most people who believe in free will probably don't understand systems. i.e. interacting parts of a whole system.
And the evidence for this apparent statistical insight is based on what?
For free will to be real, we'd have to be separate from everything in the entire of existence.
Why?
I equate the belief in free will as similar to when they believe the world was flat.
Funnily enough, the belief that you espouse is more readily associated with a time when it was generally accepted that the world was flat.
It made sense to them at the time but it only made sense to them because of their limited knowledge at the time
I'm done here. "
does the reaction fight or flight not blow this theory away ? As you must make a choice ie free will to decide which path to take. For my way of thinking alot of the human race gave up free will preffering to be led by what they percieve as those who know better. theres a massive diffrence between a tribe member of a non civilised group and the pro bioric buying yoghurt folk who believe anyone in a lab coat |
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Here's a good quote I agree with. People make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. |
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"Here's a good quote I agree with. People make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. "
I like this  |
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"Here's a good quote I agree with. People make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.
I like this "
Seeing as your a red I can see why you like it |
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