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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"is the transport minister responsible for weather forecasts too  no but he relies on the expertise and advice. "
just as well michael fish has retired then!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Scape goat springs to mind.."
Yep, but I'll bet he's been mothballed to some comittee and will be back in a cabinet position in a couple of years.
These type of ppl look after there own. He'll have offered to take the fall himself. Great career mave on his part. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The warnings didn't start to come in until about 4am, apparently. Do we expect our ministers to sit up all night watching the news? Okay, the folk who left early and were out before it got really bad were one thing, but the idiots who went out once it was clear there were problems and had been warnings get no sympathy here. The problems continued for as long as they did due to the number of abandoned vehicles making it impossible for gritters etc to get through. And gritting is a council responsibility, not a government one, so I fail to see how this was his fault. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The warnings didn't start to come in until about 4am, apparently. Do we expect our ministers to sit up all night watching the news? Okay, the folk who left early and were out before it got really bad were one thing, but the idiots who went out once it was clear there were problems and had been warnings get no sympathy here. The problems continued for as long as they did due to the number of abandoned vehicles making it impossible for gritters etc to get through. And gritting is a council responsibility, not a government one, so I fail to see how this was his fault."
Recent history was a good guide, you know like same time last year similar weather occured.
It all looked very like, "ohh we were'nt expecting that" and thats just daft, cause we had it last year and we're in Scotland and its December and combine the two theres a high risk of snow happening, yet we managed to look like it caught us out!!
Some of us have zero option but to try to drive no matter what the weather is doing,or we end up jobless.
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our council made the decision yesterday to cancel all school transport for today and open schools at 10am only for the children who could get there.
how much snow did we get... a tiny flurry at 9am which barely made a mark on the ground
however, i think preparation is the answer and the extra hour in the morning allowed for emergency closures to happen easier if needed...
the school transport on the other hand!
it means that there have been a load of parents taking time off work and a load of children at home - for no reason! 
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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago
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the snow last week was forecast the day b4 heavy snow hittin central belt at morning rush hr how they can then say it caught them out is laughable all they had to do was have the ploughs n gritters in place on major roads to start their business as soon as it started not after a cpl hrs of mayhem he shouldnt have been allowed to resign he should have been sacked |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the snow last week was forecast the day b4 heavy snow hittin central belt at morning rush hr how they can then say it caught them out is laughable all they had to do was have the ploughs n gritters in place on major roads to start their business as soon as it started not after a cpl hrs of mayhem he shouldnt have been allowed to resign he should have been sacked "
Today’s weather warnings, yes the worst we’ve had in 80 years shows you why we’ll never be ready, the amount of snow that fell last week would have been all but impossible to control, gritters can only do so much, it will just freeze and be covered in snow as quick as it was cleared |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the amount of snow that fell last week would have been all but impossible to control"
They seem to manage to control it every year in Canada, Norway etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the idiots who went out once it was clear there were problems and had been warnings get no sympathy here"
I'll assume you're in a job that you can just take a day off?
Have a thought for the "idiot" emergency service workers who have to get to work regardless of weather conditions just in case YOU happen to get into trouble and need our help. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Do they? And there was me thinking they used snow tyres, snow chains etc over there, suppose that’s the transport ministers fault as well for not supplying them to drivers, the bottom line is we’re crap at forecasting weather and its wrong more times than its right, in fact I’m still waiting for the 2 hottest summers ever we’ve been promised the last 2 years |
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By *uttyMan
over a year ago
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A lot of problems stem from people either never driven in snow before or the "select 1st gear, floor it n hope for the best brigade"
Whilst out at work I stopped numerous times to assist people stuck in the snow, either diggin them out or pushing cars but also a little "try a higher gear with no accelerator and it'll move"
Still think the uk should add advanced driving skills, like snow n ice as part of the test |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do they? And there was me thinking they used snow tyres, snow chains etc over there, suppose that’s the transport ministers fault as well for not supplying them to drivers, the bottom line is we’re crap at forecasting weather and its wrong more times than its right, in fact I’m still waiting for the 2 hottest summers ever we’ve been promised the last 2 years "
Never said it was the transport ministers fault, said they manage better in other countries.
Oh, I have snow chains cos my merc is pish in the snow. lol |
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By *if42Man
over a year ago
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"the amount of snow that fell last week would have been all but impossible to control
They seem to manage to control it every year in Canada, Norway etc."
aye and spend a fortune doin so knowing that it happens every year...think I pay enough in taxes/council tax etc already without payin more for equipment to to lie about most years in the event summat unusual happens....now if we knew it was gonna happen every year that might be a different matter....I can't believe I'm on a swingers site talkin weather *lol* |
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By *if42Man
over a year ago
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"in canada before it snows they spray the roads with brine .... Stops it icing up when it snows n stops it stickin to roads making it alot easier to plough "
...what do they spray on the runways/forth road bridge....is that brine? Seems to work just guess it costs too much to spray all the roads otherwise they would wouldn't they?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They seem to manage to control it every year in Canada, Norway etc."
The difference is they get it *every* year, not just occasionally. As for the 'idiots' I was referring to the ones who did not work in an essential service, who saw how bad the weather was and either hadn't checked for weather warnings or ignored them got stuck and blamed everyone but themselves. I never mentioned people who *had* to go out  |
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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago
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I spent 2 winters based in Germany and they coped with really bad snow and freezing conditions. They are prepared for it, as should this country have been considering last years weather.
Within 5 mins of the snow laying in Germany the snow ploughs are out on most roads. The temperatures are consistently in minus figures but work/schools are open as usual and there is minimum disruption on the roads. |
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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago
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hence why i said its laughable we should have been ready with ploughs and gritters strategically placed to get on the move the moment the snow started to keep roads movin ....its not rocket science...lol |
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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago
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"in canada before it snows they spray the roads with brine .... Stops it icing up when it snows n stops it stickin to roads making it alot easier to plough ...what do they spray on the runways/forth road bridge....is that brine? Seems to work just guess it costs too much to spray all the roads otherwise they would wouldn't they?"
must be something similar they say whatever they spray lasts 24hrs and makes clearing runways of snow far easier airports are usually only closed for a matter of hrs the m8 was shut for nearly 2 days in parts |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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working in the rail industry I have some sympathry for what they were thru last week... for us it was a nightmere
some of the problem was snow.... some of the problem was how cold it got...
because at anything getting near or below -10c the grit that is used in the UK doesn't work..... so basically that stretch of the m8 would have been a skating rink.... |
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By *if42Man
over a year ago
dundee |
"working in the rail industry I have some sympathry for what they were thru last week... for us it was a nightmere
some of the problem was snow.... some of the problem was how cold it got...
because at anything getting near or below -10c the grit that is used in the UK doesn't work..... so basically that stretch of the m8 would have been a skating rink...."
....and a car park |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"hence why i said its laughable we should have been ready with ploughs and gritters strategically placed to get on the move the moment the snow started to keep roads movin ....its not rocket science...lol"
I agree with what you're saying but the gritters were out, in fact we can see the M8 from our window, its the only thing between us and harthill all you could see constantly was the yellow lights practically non stop, didn't help though, it just kept freezing over once cleared and gritted, and sacking a transport minister wont make a difference when they have 40% cuts already, the only thing it does is makes people believe they're doing something about it while all the transport managers at every gritting depot across scotland will be saying thank god it wasn't me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They seem to manage to control it every year in Canada, Norway etc.
The difference is they get it *every* year, not just occasionally. As for the 'idiots' I was referring to the ones who did not work in an essential service, who saw how bad the weather was and either hadn't checked for weather warnings or ignored them got stuck and blamed everyone but themselves. I never mentioned people who *had* to go out "
Helped my neighbours dig out to get going, because if never got to work, never got paid,month before christmas, i class that as essential for most folks.
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By *adgeeMan
over a year ago
Sw Scotland |
"...what do they spray on the runways/forth road bridge....is that brine? Seems to work just guess it costs too much to spray all the roads otherwise they would wouldn't they?"
The Bridges are sprayed with Glycol (An Alcohol Based compound) which doesn't rot the carriageway as much as salt/grit does. |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
Tayside |
I think the new Transport Minister will need to resign too!
Well he didn't keep the snow away, just the same as the last one, bloody Politicians you can never trust them with anything!
* Where's a Tongue in Cheek smiley when you need one¿ |
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