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over a year ago
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Just attended a cracking venue in Glasgow called the Shoebox
What it lacks in size is made up by a cracking intimate atmosphere. Steve and the others that run it are all friendly accommodating and relaxed. More of the same please |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night |
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"Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night"
Lol - let's take a venue for swinging and see if we can rent it for the night for swinging - and folk are slagged off for talking about cliques and elitists.
I see Mrs R was there - she can tell us how busy, give an idea about ratios and tell us about fees. |
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"Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night Lol - let's take a venue for swinging and see if we can rent it for the night for swinging - and folk are slagged off for talking about cliques and elitists.
I see Mrs R was there - she can tell us how busy, give an idea about ratios and tell us about fees. "
Yes I was there yesterday
a great venue lovely atmosphere....I'm planning on going back very soon..
anyone going next week..? |
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"Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night Lol - let's take a venue for swinging and see if we can rent it for the night for swinging - and folk are slagged off for talking about cliques and elitists.
I see Mrs R was there - she can tell us how busy, give an idea about ratios and tell us about fees.
Yes I was there yesterday
a great venue lovely atmosphere....I'm planning on going back very soon..
anyone going next week..?"
Potentially in a couple of weeks time due to work commitments next week, but the dates that far ahead are not up on meets board yet so not sure if it is happening? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night "
"Lol - let's take a venue for swinging and see if we can rent it for the night for swinging - and folk are slagged off for talking about cliques and elitists.
I see Mrs R was there - she can tell us how busy, give an idea about ratios and tell us about fees. "
I think this is a bit harsh. A lot of couples and females don't want to be surrounded by lots of males, and no females. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night
Lol - let's take a venue for swinging and see if we can rent it for the night for swinging - and folk are slagged off for talking about cliques and elitists.
I see Mrs R was there - she can tell us how busy, give an idea about ratios and tell us about fees.
I think this is a bit harsh. A lot of couples and females don't want to be surrounded by lots of males, and no females."
thats exactly why I asked greedy girls nights are not OUR thing but five or six couples partying that is so if available for rent at a good rate we would be up for that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think the posts on this thread might help with ratio ideas ten to one ale to female I'd rather know how big how many fit in comfortably and can you rent it for night
Lol - let's take a venue for swinging and see if we can rent it for the night for swinging - and folk are slagged off for talking about cliques and elitists.
I see Mrs R was there - she can tell us how busy, give an idea about ratios and tell us about fees.
I think this is a bit harsh. A lot of couples and females don't want to be surrounded by lots of males, and no females.thats exactly why I asked greedy girls nights are not OUR thing but five or six couples partying that is so if available for rent at a good rate we would be up for that"
Totally agree.... 
But according to that poster, we have to put up or shut up with a club full of single guys, hehe |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The venue has commented on the other thread running, and state quite clearly there not really wanting the social side, more geared up towards people who just want to play. |
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"Could be wrong get the impression this is really for men. As women are already there willing to play :::"
not sure how it could be really for men it takes a min of two to tango. Its a diffrent buisness to cjs maybe but not that diffrent I get the impression its the scale thats diffrent ie a big house and a small flat
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There seems to be a bit of demon using of this venue going on which is very unfair it may not be your thing or appeal to people but no need to start implying it's prostitution it's a place with overheads and run like a business's it's a place you pay to go to with a very good chance of having sex but I have never gone to any swingers venue where you must have sex no will always mean no
I have spoke to people who know the owners and they are apparently lovely people so wondering where all the attacks on their charecters are coming from if it's not for you fair enough it's not our thing but good luck to the owners and everyone who attends happy swinging folks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't know what they charge if it's a fortune I could see that but I'm sure any responsible venue would make clear no means no it's not in their intrest to make people uncomfortable |
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I have no issue over money, more that as one of the few women some guys may feel that I should play when perhaps I won't be attracted to anyone and don't want to.
No aspersions on the hosts or on cost. |
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But these concerns would apply to all buisnesses of this manner. I often think the cjs in crowd try to put down other venues while promoting cjs.perhaps it wasnt ment that way but it can appear that way. To my knowledge this buisness has been around a while never had to change premises and until recently has been the best model of discretion and to an extent it seems like some are trying to put it down |
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Kola, I've never been to CJs and don't live near Glasgow, so I'm not part of any crowd.
Think I'll leave this thread now as people seem to be under the impression I'm attacking the organisers when I've done nothing of the sort. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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as with any club, pay your money, take your chances and explore it for yourself. People ask in the forums who is going, what is it alike and that can be useful but it's never the best replacement for your own personal opinion following a visit.
We have people do a complete 360 degree turnaround on clubs
good luck to the venue  and all clubs... they are certainly trying their best |
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"Kola, I've never been to CJs and don't live near Glasgow, so I'm not part of any crowd.
Think I'll leave this thread now as people seem to be under the impression I'm attacking the organisers when I've done nothing of the sort. "
my post wasnt just about yourself. And in a way it helps highlight the point I was making. Why are you willing to put faith in cjs the buisness but not shoebox. For myself its the exact reason that advertisment of buisnesses has no place in the forums let them pay for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Actually, Kola has a point. We have never been to CJ'S, but it did always seem to be the same crowd every time posting on the forums . And we have seen people who commented negatively towards CJ's get shot down in flames. We know personally of two couples who went, who said they never go again, and described it as an horrendous experience.
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I just think if you want to cast judgement go and see what it's about before you do then you have the right to judge but if you have never been why say anything as you've no idea what to expect. It been to a few clubs know as a single female and never ever have I ever been ex |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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End of the day these places are here for a reason . A place people can meet in the same mind set. Mixing with people who are looking to take part. Social or watch. There a business to make money. It up to people what they do with there money. If I was guaranteed an Eros it happly buy them a kebab, few drinks etc. |
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our point in both the threads on the shoebox is anywhere you pay to get in where, which ever way you look at it, the main premise is sex its just a bit wrong, very few people will be paying to get in the shoebox to just sit and watch, not once have we slagged people off personally by name or hinted at a particular person. |
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"our point in both the threads on the shoebox is anywhere you pay to get in where, which ever way you look at it, the main premise is sex its just a bit wrong, very few people will be paying to get in the shoebox to just sit and watch, not once have we slagged people off personally by name or hinted at a particular person."
Your paying to be on a swingers site that the main purpose is sex, your willing to meet couples and females for sex. To attend parties for sex. I don't see what your doing is different. Everyone watches porn. It's all the same thing. How can it be wrong when everyone is here for sex. Your a gold member do you pay extra to watch the cams? I pay in clubs as I'm guaranteed a higher standard of people than the randoms who meet everyone on here and fuck anything and everything with a heart beat. x |
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"our point in both the threads on the shoebox is anywhere you pay to get in where, which ever way you look at it, the main premise is sex its just a bit wrong, very few people will be paying to get in the shoebox to just sit and watch, not once have we slagged people off personally by name or hinted at a particular person.
Your paying to be on a swingers site that the main purpose is sex, your willing to meet couples and females for sex. To attend parties for sex. I don't see what your doing is different. Everyone watches porn. It's all the same thing. How can it be wrong when everyone is here for sex. Your a gold member do you pay extra to watch the cams? I pay in clubs as I'm guaranteed a higher standard of people than the randoms who meet everyone on here and fuck anything and everything with a heart beat. x"
how are you guaranteed a higher standard of people just because it's a club?
I don't understand that as most attending clubs are from here anyway  |
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"our point in both the threads on the shoebox is anywhere you pay to get in where, which ever way you look at it, the main premise is sex its just a bit wrong, very few people will be paying to get in the shoebox to just sit and watch, not once have we slagged people off personally by name or hinted at a particular person.
Your paying to be on a swingers site that the main purpose is sex, your willing to meet couples and females for sex. To attend parties for sex. I don't see what your doing is different. Everyone watches porn. It's all the same thing. How can it be wrong when everyone is here for sex. Your a gold member do you pay extra to watch the cams? I pay in clubs as I'm guaranteed a higher standard of people than the randoms who meet everyone on here and fuck anything and everything with a heart beat. x"
nicely put....... apart from "higher standard of people" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"our point in both the threads on the shoebox is anywhere you pay to get in where, which ever way you look at it, the main premise is sex its just a bit wrong, very few people will be paying to get in the shoebox to just sit and watch, not once have we slagged people off personally by name or hinted at a particular person.
Your paying to be on a swingers site that the main purpose is sex, your willing to meet couples and females for sex. To attend parties for sex. I don't see what your doing is different. Everyone watches porn. It's all the same thing. How can it be wrong when everyone is here for sex. Your a gold member do you pay extra to watch the cams? I pay in clubs as I'm guaranteed a higher standard of people than the randoms who meet everyone on here and fuck anything and everything with a heart beat. x"
we dont use the cams, we pay gold purely because its the best way to keep track of the conversations we have and for more pics, so as for us we are not paying for sex at all, we met people when we were not a site supporter so id say thats a pretty poor argument. |
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If you pay a subscription for msgs in essence you are still paying to keep up with convo line with the ultimate goal of sex. These clubs like it or lump it make you pay for the ammenities to allow folk to have sex. Its everyones choice what they do or dont do you cant be forced to have sex.is there elitism within the club goer scene yes I believe so. Would I pay for entry yup if it was fair and resonable. Do clubs know that alot of guys have more money than sense definatly. Do some fems enjoy the powertrip again definatly this club in many ways deserves the kudos that cjs gets it supplys an area that folk want. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you pay a subscription for msgs in essence you are still paying to keep up with convo line with the ultimate goal of sex. These clubs like it or lump it make you pay for the ammenities to allow folk to have sex. Its everyones choice what they do or dont do you cant be forced to have sex.is there elitism within the club goer scene yes I believe so. Would I pay for entry yup if it was fair and resonable. Do clubs know that alot of guys have more money than sense definatly. Do some fems enjoy the powertrip again definatly this club in many ways deserves the kudos that cjs gets it supplys an area that folk want."
sorry but not everyone we talk to we are looking to have sex with, but by your point if we are gold members and we do end up meeting people then we have sex that means weve paid for it??
what a load of pony!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"By the same token paying to enter a club for sex is nonsense also then "
youre right paying to get into a club to have sex is nonsense, still totally different to us paying for gold. |
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Sorry never meant higher standard of people that's the wrong thing I meant like the pestering single guys you don't get that at clubs I meant it's decent guys who are respectful. Hope thatvrectifys what I meant x |
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"They pay to get into a club for the ammenities though so its exactly the same
we dont go swinger clubs, not our thing, so we pay for nothing."
Surely if you meet though you go out dinners or drinks or hotels or whatever. Your still paying for amenities for the same outcome. Visiting clubs takes the ownus off of people knowing where you live or to much about you but still able to have fun. For me to do it from home is far to close to my personal life and why would I want to let people know where I live so clubs suit be better. |
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"They pay to get into a club for the ammenities though so its exactly the same
we dont go swinger clubs, not our thing, so we pay for nothing."
A few points which are bugging me after reading through this thread:
If you don't go to swingers clubs, why are you replying to a thread specifically about a swingers club?!
Having been, I can report there is no pressure to do anything you don't want to. Yes, it's a small venue and play is a lot more in your face, but it quite clearly explains this on the profile.
Venues charge money for several reasons, it s out a lot of the time wasters (which is what I think Miss Sparkles meant) cause the non genuine people are far less likely to pay a contribution to get into a place when they're just playing themselves anyway. There's quite a big cost in running a venue when you think about utilities, laundry, refreshments and the time it must take to organise these type of events. I'm sure if venues were able they wouldn't charge, but would anyone do their 9-5 job for free?! Doubtful!
One of my life mottos is "don't judge until you've tried it" so either go, or don't, but stop slating something you have no personal experience of. I personally can't wait to go back! |
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"They pay to get into a club for the ammenities though so its exactly the same
we dont go swinger clubs, not our thing, so we pay for nothing.
A few points which are bugging me after reading through this thread:
If you don't go to swingers clubs, why are you replying to a thread specifically about a swingers club?!
Having been, I can report there is no pressure to do anything you don't want to. Yes, it's a small venue and play is a lot more in your face, but it quite clearly explains this on the profile.
Venues charge money for several reasons, it s out a lot of the time wasters (which is what I think Miss Sparkles meant) cause the non genuine people are far less likely to pay a contribution to get into a place when they're just playing themselves anyway. There's quite a big cost in running a venue when you think about utilities, laundry, refreshments and the time it must take to organise these type of events. I'm sure if venues were able they wouldn't charge, but would anyone do their 9-5 job for free?! Doubtful!
One of my life mottos is "don't judge until you've tried it" so either go, or don't, but stop slating something you have no personal experience of. I personally can't wait to go back!"
That's exactly what I meant xxx
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If you don't go to swingers clubs, why are you replying to a thread specifically about a swingers club?!
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I don't go to clubs but I'm still interested in finding out things about them that may make me want to venture into one one day.
I commented on a post yesterday because I felt the comment was a bit insulting to members on here by its context.
It's a free forum for people to join in and debate many topics and not just for those who have a valid interest in what ever that topic may be.
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Totally agree everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to comment but not when its being judged and saying its a brothel as you paying an entrance fee to cover over heads. These are real people with real lives and tarnishing them with a comment like that when you have never even been to a club is wrong. X |
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"Totally agree everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to comment but not when its being judged and saying its a brothel as you paying an entrance fee to cover over heads. These are real people with real lives and tarnishing them with a comment like that when you have never even been to a club is wrong. X"
well I didnt make that comment but I'm sure the person who did post it had their reasons for saying what they did whether it's right or wrong.
As has been said before people should go and judge for themselves and not judge on what others have to say. |
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I'm going to get brothel keeper on my cv I've charged for socials and party's. Being a swinger is bad enough with the stigma attached to it but when other swingers try to stigmatize people trying to make this lifestyle a little more fun it's a slippery slope for us all. People should all be allowed to comment but the comments should be measured |
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I wouldnt go to a club in scotland dosnt mean I cant comment on a thread if I feel I raises talking points. Im pretty sure the buisness shoebox would have prefered the anonimity they have had previous yrs but discretion aint what it used to be.
Lets not kid ourselves the buisness wouldnt ever want to do it for free. They dont want to out timewasters they dont even have your best intrests at heart they want a healthy profit margin nothing more.thats why I dont like the contrabution line its a charge a set fee a contrabution is what you want or can afford to pay. Everyone is entitled to comment its been placed on an open forum that includes the negative comments what isnt aloud (imo) is to claim that the law is being broken as ive said on many posts we all judge and really need to get over that when someones judgement is negative. It seems its ok to judge someone as a nice person but woe betide you if you judge them not so nice |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you've read enough and got enough info and you have your own mind you don't need to go somewhere to judge what it's like.
I've never been on a bull run but I know it's cruel on the bull!! |
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By *976scottMan
over a year ago
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"Totally agree everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to comment but not when its being judged and saying its a brothel as you paying an entrance fee to cover over heads. These are real people with real lives and tarnishing them with a comment like that when you have never even been to a club is wrong. X"
Good point! It's like any hobby if you want to partake then you have to be prepaired to pay!
Like cjs was I'm assuming the shoebox is a venue for likeminded people to meet and socialise, very different from a brothel!
Haters will be haters! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Alot of fear and negative assumptions being made in this thread. Its fine to have an opinion but to make up a reality that doesn't exist or hasn't happened just baffles me.
I think its great another venue opened in Glasgow. Will go when evening and weekend dates open up |
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