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"Suggests SNP could win every single seat (59) in scotland next week ..those at wesminster must be sh@tting themselves "hope they do but id be happy just to take curran murphy and both the alexanders seats | |||
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"Suggests SNP could win every single seat (59) in scotland next week ..those at wesminster must be sh@tting themselves "Not even the Nats believe that'll happen. | |||
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"Better together....part of the union....lets work this out lets work hand in hand .....only a matter of months ago ....now....holy fuck what do you mean your coming to westminster ..no chance of us doing a deal with they jock feckers ..quick lock the door pretend we're out " | |||
"Suggests SNP could win every single seat (59) in scotland next week ..those at wesminster must be sh@tting themselves
Not even the Nats believe that'll happen."I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. | |||
"Suggests SNP could win every single seat (59) in scotland next week ..those at wesminster must be sh@tting themselves
Not even the Nats believe that'll happen.
I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics."both labour and conservatives have basicly just carried on from the referendum with their negativity on snp rather than trying to gain support for themselves  | |||
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"I think Scotland should be sh!!###g itself if the polls correct. " | |||
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"No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters." " I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics." So who's bad mouthing whom? | |||
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"No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters. I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. So who's bad mouthing whom?" As said above in a debate ive had with Labours all ive got back is im a nazi and im scum. Plus Scottish Labour Branch dont seem to want to try and win people over more for them its about bad mouthing SNP and this referendum that not even happening. If people wanna vote Labour i totally respect that and thats their right to vote but Scottish Labour Branch are offering nothing other than trying to put fear into people not to vote SNP as they should be trying to win people over with the politics. | |||
"No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters. I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. So who's bad mouthing whom? As said above in a debate ive had with Labours all ive got back is im a nazi and im scum. Plus Scottish Labour Branch dont seem to want to try and win people over more for them its about bad mouthing SNP and this referendum that not even happening. If people wanna vote Labour i totally respect that and thats their right to vote but Scottish Labour Branch are offering nothing other than trying to put fear into people not to vote SNP as they should be trying to win people over with the politics." You just can't resist the name calling, can you? | |||
"No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters. I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. So who's bad mouthing whom? As said above in a debate ive had with Labours all ive got back is im a nazi and im scum. Plus Scottish Labour Branch dont seem to want to try and win people over more for them its about bad mouthing SNP and this referendum that not even happening. If people wanna vote Labour i totally respect that and thats their right to vote but Scottish Labour Branch are offering nothing other than trying to put fear into people not to vote SNP as they should be trying to win people over with the politics. You just can't resist the name calling, can you?" I dont get what you trying to get at ? | |||
"No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters. I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. So who's bad mouthing whom? As said above in a debate ive had with Labours all ive got back is im a nazi and im scum. Plus Scottish Labour Branch dont seem to want to try and win people over more for them its about bad mouthing SNP and this referendum that not even happening. If people wanna vote Labour i totally respect that and thats their right to vote but Scottish Labour Branch are offering nothing other than trying to put fear into people not to vote SNP as they should be trying to win people over with the politics. You just can't resist the name calling, can you? I dont get what you trying to get at ? " I doubt that very much. | |||
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"No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters. I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. So who's bad mouthing whom? As said above in a debate ive had with Labours all ive got back is im a nazi and im scum. Plus Scottish Labour Branch dont seem to want to try and win people over more for them its about bad mouthing SNP and this referendum that not even happening. If people wanna vote Labour i totally respect that and thats their right to vote but Scottish Labour Branch are offering nothing other than trying to put fear into people not to vote SNP as they should be trying to win people over with the politics. You just can't resist the name calling, can you? I dont get what you trying to get at ? I doubt that very much." "No wonder Labours in a panic Their Leader is a living version of Wallace and Gromit and Bungling Jim Murphy is a political non-entity. Constantly screaming about the boogey man SNP coming to get you. They can't agree with each other as poor old Jim puts his foot in it time and again , only to be hung out to dry by his Imperial Masters. I believe it could. Labour seem to think its more important to bash / bad mouth SNP than try and win people over with their politics. So who's bad mouthing whom? As said above in a debate ive had with Labours all ive got back is im a nazi and im scum. Plus Scottish Labour Branch dont seem to want to try and win people over more for them its about bad mouthing SNP and this referendum that not even happening. If people wanna vote Labour i totally respect that and thats their right to vote but Scottish Labour Branch are offering nothing other than trying to put fear into people not to vote SNP as they should be trying to win people over with the politics. You just can't resist the name calling, can you? I dont get what you trying to get at ? I doubt that very much." Nope I'm with her. I don't see what you're getting at either Onny. Poster commented that she'd been called names by people supporting Labour. She didn't then add to that with insults. Indeed the opposite. She respects people choice to vote Labour. B | |||
"Oh i believe the polls........just not the reasons for voting SNP...it seems to be more an anti labour/tory vote than a pro-SNP one.......Well they certainly have no record to crow about, so yes it is an anti vote mentality...but hey that is democracy, and it is why it will be no use crying when the Conservatives have won the election. "The SNP won't be crying. That's exactly result they're after. | |||
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"I think Scotland should be sh!!###g itself if the polls correct. " Oh I think it's the Tories who'll be doing that... | |||
"No...surely not !.The SNP are on the side of the Scottish working class,why would they take any delight in a Tory government.....or am i being naive, or is it others who are being taken in , by MR Murdochs poodles.....oh well it cannot be any worse than the last 5years can it ?" pmsl yup think we say that every five yrs to be honest | |||
"No...surely not !.The SNP are on the side of the Scottish working class,why would they take any delight in a Tory government.....or am i being naive, or is it others who are being taken in , by MR Murdochs poodles.....oh well it cannot be any worse than the last 5years can it ?" Naive? Yes. | |||
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"Labour and a conservative coalition now that would certainly be novel....but unrealistic....The SNP ballsed up its tactics by swearing not to go into a coalition with the tories....It is a political cuckoo...it has no history of siding with the working class,it is facing all ways at the same time....What does MS Sturgeon do if Cameron offers a referendum (The only policy history the SNP have)for her support of the first budget " She'll tell him to bolt. If she doesn't there will be 100k less members in the SNP. Is Lab/ Con so unrealistic? They're pretty much identical twins politically and they've proved in the last few weeks that they want Scotland to have no influence on Westminster policy, or at least not a Scotland that they can't control, so for my mind, it's the obvious solution. | |||
"It says you backed the wrong horse .... "Clearly Scotland backed the wrong horse on many occasions in the past for general elections then, yes? | |||
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"It says you backed the wrong horse ....
Clearly Scotland backed the wrong horse on many occasions in the past for general elections then, yes? "No. Scotland has backed the correct horse for many years. The rest of the UK hasn't always been so enlightened. | |||
"Labour and a conservative coalition now that would certainly be novel....but unrealistic....The SNP ballsed up its tactics by swearing not to go into a coalition with the tories....It is a political cuckoo...it has no history of siding with the working class,it is facing all ways at the same time....What does MS Sturgeon do if Cameron offers a referendum (The only policy history the SNP have)for her support of the first budget She'll tell him to bolt. If she doesn't there will be 100k less members in the SNP. Is Lab/ Con so unrealistic? They're pretty much identical twins politically and they've proved in the last few weeks that they want Scotland to have no influence on Westminster policy, or at least not a Scotland that they can't control, so for my mind, it's the obvious solution." can see it as a possible but only if all other avenues had been deemed untenable first | |||
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"The reason the manifesto of the SNP is close to labours, is as i pointed out because they are political cuckoos, they steal others nests/policies and claim them as there own......I find there sound bites ,on the same level as student politics...full of what they consider popular(which it undoubtedly is) but still basically naive and dangerous...." to be fair a party for the working class people is needed the problem is once they taste the riches they dont want to lose it the biggest diffrence is right now snp believe what they say so for my money your more likely to get action on what they say not just sound bites fired as they believe its what folk want to hear n f**k em once we get in | |||
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"It says you backed the wrong horse ....
Clearly Scotland backed the wrong horse on many occasions in the past for general elections then, yes?
No. Scotland has backed the correct horse for many years. The rest of the UK hasn't always been so enlightened."Eh? So you're telling me Scotland voted Labour and didn't always get the government it wanted. A revelation. | |||
"The reason the manifesto of the SNP is close to labours, is as i pointed out because they are political cuckoos, they steal others nests/policies and claim them as there own......I find there sound bites ,on the same level as student politics...full of what they consider popular(which it undoubtedly is) but still basically naive and dangerous...." And why Labour are really just the Conservatives now. | |||
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"I do not share your belief in the SNP, i see them as worse than hypocrites, they seek to cause division and set people against each other......i would love to be wrong....whose side are they on?...The multi-billionaire aussies...the multi-millionaire busmans......or the trade unionists ?" I dont think they try to set people against each other they believe strongly in an independant scotland maybe a little to much national pride to see the big picture and to actually hear the voices of those they look to represent but I believe they would try their best to fulfil what they promise and in this election they may be able to hold another party to account for their words which cant be a bad thing | |||
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"Don't often agree with your posts, in fact very rarely but that's a fair assessment Kola." lol convergence is weird dont panic will be back to no agreement shortly | |||
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"Funnily you could not be more wrong .. historically The Labour party are funded by Trade unions and the conservatives by rich individuals...and big business... just like the SNP in fact "I think the LPs days of being funded by Unions are nearing an end. They too will be looking to big business/ donors - I'm sure they already do anyhoo. Sure the SNP have some big donors. I don't personally have a problem with that as long as it doesn't influence policy in the way many health companies etc have with the present government. I think you'll see more Union funding to the SNP in the future. Times they are a changing. For the better. | |||
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"I think Scotland should be sh!!###g itself if the polls correct. " The concern is the calibare of candidate due to such a rapid increase in support. I heard one SNP candidate who sounded like she shouldn't be running a WI meeting never mind the country. Call me a snob but I want those running the country to have significant brain matter between the ears. And no I'm not a Tory! | |||
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"Ah so Milliband doesnt want to do a formal deal with a party,whose only goal is to split the country apart..Well i never...what a surprise...oh and no it is far from snobbish Bi Fem...i too would like some gravitas....unfortunately it is in veru short supply in most parties..where are these SNP workers policies? Still no answers......." Indeed it is. But often they get ed out over time but when a party is on the up so quickly there isn't the same time for the cream to rise and I think many will end up feeling let down by their representative. Got a leaflet through today from a candidate who's policies all revolve around legalising canabis! | |||
"Holding to account by threats? They have so many conditions they will never be met...all done so that they can throw there hands up again and claim it is "Westminsters fault " Like political eunachs they are beyond reproach, but in reality are devious and cunning in there methods....tell me again what they have achieved for the working man/woman.. funded by the powers to raise tax which they have at there disposal........" the power to raise taxes that have been in place since 1998 you mean? Who was in power in Scotland then I wonder? Even if anyone had raised taxes the amount allowed to raise was so insignificant it wouldn't have generated that much in the scheme of things. Had they (either Labour or the SNP/Con coalition or recent SNP administration) raised them would you have been happy? Right now your saying they've had the power and didn't. That's a damned if they do damned if the don't scenario. What they have done is reversed labours Introduction of tuition fees, kept free bus passes for elderly, scrapped road tolls, recently mitigated the bedroom tax, frozen council taxes, increased childcare, free school meals, free personal care for the elderly, scrapped poll tax debt, finished the trams for Labour... Oh and stayed in budget every year. So really. They've done not too shabby. As they say, you can only piss with the cock you have. Cock we have is Barnett. Until that changes to FFA that's what we piss with. | |||
"I think Scotland should be sh!!###g itself if the polls correct. The concern is the calibare of candidate due to such a rapid increase in support. I heard one SNP candidate who sounded like she shouldn't be running a WI meeting never mind the country. Call me a snob but I want those running the country to have significant brain matter between the ears. And no I'm not a Tory!" To be fair there's a fair few keekers in Holyrood who just should never have been picked too. On all sides. It's swings and roundabouts like any business. You'll get some people who are confident and strong and others who simply aren't. | |||
"Ah so Milliband doesnt want to do a formal deal with a party,whose only goal is to split the country apart..Well i never...what a surprise...oh and no it is far from snobbish Bi Fem...i too would like some gravitas....unfortunately it is in veru short supply in most parties..where are these SNP workers policies? Still no answers....... Indeed it is. But often they get ed out over time but when a party is on the up so quickly there isn't the same time for the cream to rise and I think many will end up feeling let down by their representative. Got a leaflet through today from a candidate who's policies all revolve around legalising canabis! " An SNP candidate?! | |||
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"Holding to account by threats? They have so many conditions they will never be met...all done so that they can throw there hands up again and claim it is "Westminsters fault " Like political eunachs they are beyond reproach, but in reality are devious and cunning in there methods....tell me again what they have achieved for the working man/woman.. funded by the powers to raise tax which they have at there disposal........" if the snps seats are required the partys negotiate if one party feels its to far from their aims then no coalition thats not threats thats politics and their has to be give and take on both sides maybe trident stays but an actual schedule for devolved powers meaningful ones is a deal that could be brokered that way both partys win and lose and unlike the lib dem I believe the snp wouldnt sit back and accept anything the other party said | |||
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We'll agree to disagree. FFA would be much easier to administer than bits n pieces of a 3p tax raising power - or subsequent governments would have used it. We get enough grief for being subsidy junkies, imagine what it would be like if we were raising tax and having Barnett!?
Disagree with you're austerity _iew too I'm afraid. Bit like having a mortgage. It's a lot of money to pay back. Do you live on beans n toast for ten years and pay it back quick or pay over a longer period and have a decent meal every night? Not the best analogy granted but the principle is the same. | |||
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"Aviators baby, aviators
We'll agree to disagree. FFA would be much easier to administer than bits n pieces of a 3p tax raising power - or subsequent governments would have used it. We get enough grief for being subsidy junkies, imagine what it would be like if we were raising tax and having Barnett!?
Disagree with you're austerity _iew too I'm afraid. Bit like having a mortgage. It's a lot of money to pay back. Do you live on beans n toast for ten years and pay it back quick or pay over a longer period and have a decent meal every night? Not the best analogy granted but the principle is the same."Have a read of Margaret Ferrier's 'explanation' of FFA. | |||
"Yes agree to disagree is the way it should always be resolved ..and your analogy is not too far off the mark... i am prepared to have a few nights of beans n toast...so that my children do not have to pay for my and your "Free" lunch x" Wasn't my mum and dad that bought a house too big for them to afford to pay back. To be fair I did tell them that. Their friends in America said they should though and they did t want to look second rate. That said, I'll help them pay for it though as it will be left to my kids in the end, so they'll benefit in the long run. | |||
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"Just a few thoughts: NS is showing similar arrogance to AS in assuming that she knows what the people of Scotland want. Ehhhh......."keep the Tories out", sorry Ms.S, but there are loyal Tories in Scotland. The SNP's assumption that because they've got all these new members in the party, that that means a load of extra votes. I suspect that most of these new members were already SNP voters, they've simply been swept along on the back of the referendum, and decided to be a bit more committed. Scottish Labour have for too long taken the Scots and their votes for granted, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Their Report Card, 'must try harder'! What on earth is it with a majority of Scots supposedly wanting to stay in the EU, are they mad???? I've yet to get an answer to a very simple question; what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, when we'd still be ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels? "It's called democracy... | |||
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"Just a few thoughts: NS is showing similar arrogance to AS in assuming that she knows what the people of Scotland want. Ehhhh......."keep the Tories out", sorry Ms.S, but there are loyal Tories in Scotland. The SNP's assumption that because they've got all these new members in the party, that that means a load of extra votes. I suspect that most of these new members were already SNP voters, they've simply been swept along on the back of the referendum, and decided to be a bit more committed. Scottish Labour have for too long taken the Scots and their votes for granted, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Their Report Card, 'must try harder'! What on earth is it with a majority of Scots supposedly wanting to stay in the EU, are they mad???? I've yet to get an answer to a very simple question; what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, when we'd still be ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?
It's called democracy..."The EU/Brussels is democracy?? You need to check a dictionary I think! | |||
Think I will look at pervy pix now !!!! lol | |||
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"Just a few thoughts: NS is showing similar arrogance to AS in assuming that she knows what the people of Scotland want. Ehhhh......."keep the Tories out", sorry Ms.S, but there are loyal Tories in Scotland. The SNP's assumption that because they've got all these new members in the party, that that means a load of extra votes. I suspect that most of these new members were already SNP voters, they've simply been swept along on the back of the referendum, and decided to be a bit more committed. Scottish Labour have for too long taken the Scots and their votes for granted, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Their Report Card, 'must try harder'! What on earth is it with a majority of Scots supposedly wanting to stay in the EU, are they mad???? I've yet to get an answer to a very simple question; what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, when we'd still be ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels? "i work with a bunch of jocks and one of them gave me the answere to that very question, he would rather be ruled any day by a bunch of cunts in brussels any day than the bunch of cunts from london ,because the cunts on the continent arnt english . these were his exact words | |||
"Just a few thoughts: NS is showing similar arrogance to AS in assuming that she knows what the people of Scotland want. Ehhhh......."keep the Tories out", sorry Ms.S, but there are loyal Tories in Scotland. The SNP's assumption that because they've got all these new members in the party, that that means a load of extra votes. I suspect that most of these new members were already SNP voters, they've simply been swept along on the back of the referendum, and decided to be a bit more committed. Scottish Labour have for too long taken the Scots and their votes for granted, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Their Report Card, 'must try harder'! What on earth is it with a majority of Scots supposedly wanting to stay in the EU, are they mad???? I've yet to get an answer to a very simple question; what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, when we'd still be ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?
i work with a bunch of jocks and one of them gave me the answere to that very question,
he would rather be ruled any day by a bunch of cunts in brussels any day than the bunch of cunts from london ,because the cunts on the continent arnt english . these were his exact words"A bit of an over simplification | |||
"I think Scotland should be sh!!###g itself if the polls correct. " | |||
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"Ah....Nationalism. The all embracing, inclusionist political standpoint Oh...wait..." Ah...Unionism.... | |||
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"I do not share your belief in the SNP, i see them as worse than hypocrites, they seek to cause division and set people against each other......i would love to be wrong....whose side are they on?...The multi-billionaire aussies...the multi-millionaire busmans......or the trade unionists ?I dont think they try to set people against each other they believe strongly in an independant scotland maybe a little to much national pride to see the big picture and to actually hear the voices of those they look to represent but I believe they would try their best to fulfil what they promise and in this election they may be able to hold another party to account for their words which cant be a bad thing " they got my vote once as they said they would dissolve student loan. .I still have one. ..I don't like lies and hence won't be conned again lol. I can only agree they attempt to make everyone happy but when the reality hits they don't actually have a clue about actual cash flow which is why they didn't clinch the referendum. No actual facts just possibilities. .iI have the possibility of being a multi billionaire but it's likelihood is negligible. | |||
"The tories may indeed win the election but it seems clear they will fall way short of a majority....now if the snp return 45+ seats and vote down the tories will labour join suit or vote to allow the tories in....will labour rule out a coalition with the third largest party at wesminster to form a MAJORITY government.....if they do what does that say to the people of scotland "ok firstly SNP don't want a coalition with labour they want ability of a vote and confidence set up, secondly read up on your constitutional history, if the Tories cannot form a government even if biggest party, then the queen (head of state) will call in Ed Milliband and ask him to form a minority govt which he will do he does not need to get support for a majority like 1924,1974. so Nicola will not be king maker and she has shot her bolt with her bring down tory mantra, which is naïve politics, now she will need to back the labour policies or be seen to bring down a labour govt rock and hard place and she wont be able to do a damn thing about trident etc as she is to few and to week in Westminster. | |||
"Snp all the way tory scum out" The Tories aren't scum, is it really that difficult to keep things civil??  | |||
"Just a few thoughts: NS is showing similar arrogance to AS in assuming that she knows what the people of Scotland want. Ehhhh......."keep the Tories out", sorry Ms.S, but there are loyal Tories in Scotland. The SNP's assumption that because they've got all these new members in the party, that that means a load of extra votes. I suspect that most of these new members were already SNP voters, they've simply been swept along on the back of the referendum, and decided to be a bit more committed. Scottish Labour have for too long taken the Scots and their votes for granted, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Their Report Card, 'must try harder'! What on earth is it with a majority of Scots supposedly wanting to stay in the EU, are they mad???? I've yet to get an answer to a very simple question; what on earth is the point of getting independence from Westminster, when we'd still be ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?
i work with a bunch of jocks and one of them gave me the answere to that very question,
he would rather be ruled any day by a bunch of cunts in brussels any day than the bunch of cunts from london ,because the cunts on the continent arnt english . these were his exact words"Well your "jock" workmate is a sad and pathetic soul, and his language is pretty awful too. And that's not an answer either, it's simply the words of a poor deluded eejit! | |||
"According to 'Polls', there are still 30 per cent of voters undecided. I agree that even the SNP don't believe they will win 50 plus seats. If they double their contingent to 12, they'll be happy. Bare in mind that they only have a majority of one in the Scottish Parliament, down from five at the 2011 election. Been in charge for 8 years. In that time, NHS funding cut, Education funding cut, Police, Fire, and Ambulance funding cut. Their war cry has always been 'Oil', but now that has been shown to be nonsense as the industry is in freefall. Don't take critisism well. Everybody is either Wrong, Scaremongering, or Desperate. That is their words not mine, if you look at their replies to other political parties, and even the IFS those words are a common theme. The campaign strategy seems to be, 'We're going to win, so you might as well get on the bandwagon and vote for us.'" NS keeps going on about ending the Tory led austerity, but we've already got austerity in Scotland led by the SNP. The community charge has stayed the same for years, which is all very well at one level, but someone has to pay for public services, services which are being constantly cut as local authorities attempt to balance their budgets. It's not exactly rocket science. | |||
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"According to 'Polls', there are still 30 per cent of voters undecided. I agree that even the SNP don't believe they will win 50 plus seats. If they double their contingent to 12, they'll be happy. Bare in mind that they only have a majority of one in the Scottish Parliament, down from five at the 2011 election. Been in charge for 8 years. In that time, NHS funding cut, Education funding cut, Police, Fire, and Ambulance funding cut. Their war cry has always been 'Oil', but now that has been shown to be nonsense as the industry is in freefall. Don't take critisism well. Everybody is either Wrong, Scaremongering, or Desperate. That is their words not mine, if you look at their replies to other political parties, and even the IFS those words are a common theme. The campaign strategy seems to be, 'We're going to win, so you might as well get on the bandwagon and vote for us.' NS keeps going on about ending the Tory led austerity, but we've already got austerity in Scotland led by the SNP. The community charge has stayed the same for years, which is all very well at one level, but someone has to pay for public services, services which are being constantly cut as local authorities attempt to balance their budgets. It's not exactly rocket science. "completely agree. . nobody has a rise because nobody is paying for it. I'm all about economising and Making savings but it's got to the point that Falkirk council is now cutting services for after school and actual school hours!... This is when you start to see that the books don't balance and a bit more than that there is no blame can be placed on Westminster for that. .. It's home policy. . It's SNP policy. I'm by no means saying they haven't done some good. .. But they don't strike me as having a good grip. | |||
"According to 'Polls', there are still 30 per cent of voters undecided. I agree that even the SNP don't believe they will win 50 plus seats. If they double their contingent to 12, they'll be happy. Bare in mind that they only have a majority of one in the Scottish Parliament, down from five at the 2011 election. Been in charge for 8 years. In that time, NHS funding cut, Education funding cut, Police, Fire, and Ambulance funding cut. Their war cry has always been 'Oil', but now that has been shown to be nonsense as the industry is in freefall. Don't take critisism well. Everybody is either Wrong, Scaremongering, or Desperate. That is their words not mine, if you look at their replies to other political parties, and even the IFS those words are a common theme. The campaign strategy seems to be, 'We're going to win, so you might as well get on the bandwagon and vote for us.' NS keeps going on about ending the Tory led austerity, but we've already got austerity in Scotland led by the SNP. The community charge has stayed the same for years, which is all very well at one level, but someone has to pay for public services, services which are being constantly cut as local authorities attempt to balance their budgets. It's not exactly rocket science. "Exactly this....the SNP continuously frame themselves as political insurgents when they've been the establishment for the last 8 years. | |||
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"............. In reality only 2 parties in our current system are ever likely to form a UK government. In the experience of my lifetime, simplistically one of them every time in power has invariably left office leaving the country almost bankrupt. The other has looked after a ruling elite leaving the vast unwashed a few crumbs by way of tinkering with taxes to fool them into a belief they are doing nicely thank you. ........... " You're right. Only one of two parties will produce the next Prime Minister and government. Pick which one you want more, or less, and vote accordingly. | |||
"............. In reality only 2 parties in our current system are ever likely to form a UK government. In the experience of my lifetime, simplistically one of them every time in power has invariably left office leaving the country almost bankrupt. The other has looked after a ruling elite leaving the vast unwashed a few crumbs by way of tinkering with taxes to fool them into a belief they are doing nicely thank you. ........... You're right. Only one of two parties will produce the next Prime Minister and government. Pick which one you want more, or less, and vote accordingly." That doesnt mean that smaller parties cant play there part. As we are all part of the UK so if people wanna vote for whatever party they want to represent us. | |||
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"Yes but the simple truth is....Cameron is going to be prime minister... aided by an uninspired labour campaign...the tories are not losing out to the minority parties......ukip is a busted flush.....that is democracy for you..so no moaning on Friday ,if you voted for the SNP please " I wont be moaning on Friday i'll be proud that i voted for SNP and for change. Its all upto Labour since their leader would rather not be in goverment than do any kind of deal with SNP. | |||
"Yes but the simple truth is....Cameron is going to be prime minister... aided by an uninspired labour campaign...the tories are not losing out to the minority parties......ukip is a busted flush.....that is democracy for you..so no moaning on Friday ,if you voted for the SNP please I wont be moaning on Friday i'll be proud that i voted for SNP and for change. Its all upto Labour since their leader would rather not be in goverment than do any kind of deal with SNP." | |||
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"Oh your sooo wrong ,The tories have used the SNP ....like a puppet on a string, you can feel "proud" but they will be the govt........it is called pragmatism and is the reason the tories are successful in elections...." I would say both the Tories and Labour are scaring people into voting for them. Where it should be let people make them own minds up. They need to start trying to win people over with their politics instead of SNP bashing and they are here to break the union it was a no vote many have accepted that and are moving on to have a say down in westminster. | |||
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"The 'say' Nats in Westminster want to have is 'when can we have another referendum?'" When has SNP said anything about another referendum ? the UK parties keep talking about it. What SNP a voice to instead of westminster telling us what happens. | |||
"Pish Onny. Complete and utter bollocks. There won't be one for a considerable time for many reasons. Cost probably being the biggest factor. Certainly not in the lifetime of the forth coming parliament not indeed in the lifetime of the next Scottish one. " I agree. I doubt there'll ever be another referendum but it won't stop SNP greetin' like weans for one. The sole purpose of the SNP is separation. | |||
"The 'say' Nats in Westminster want to have is 'when can we have another referendum?' When has SNP said anything about another referendum ? the UK parties keep talking about it. What SNP a voice to instead of westminster telling us what happens. " Constantly. MSPs speak of little. Everything is in the context of their desire for another referendum. When that result is No (again) they'll want another then another until, as John Mason MSP says, the people of Scotland get the right answer. (He's a bam, by the way). | |||
"Pish Onny. Complete and utter bollocks. There won't be one for a considerable time for many reasons. Cost probably being the biggest factor. Certainly not in the lifetime of the forth coming parliament not indeed in the lifetime of the next Scottish one. I agree. I doubt there'll ever be another referendum but it won't stop SNP greetin' like weans for one. The sole purpose of the SNP is separation." I agree with the latter part, top part is just infantile, as has been demonstrated pretty clear the past few week with the constant 'when's the next ref' line of questioning of Nicola. Though it's not just the SNP that wish for self determination. Thats even home grown in your own camp. | |||
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"Pish Onny. Complete and utter bollocks. There won't be one for a considerable time for many reasons. Cost probably being the biggest factor. Certainly not in the lifetime of the forth coming parliament not indeed in the lifetime of the next Scottish one. I agree. I doubt there'll ever be another referendum but it won't stop SNP greetin' like weans for one. The sole purpose of the SNP is separation. I agree with the latter part, top part is just infantile, as has been demonstrated pretty clear the past few week with the constant 'when's the next ref' line of questioning of Nicola. Though it's not just the SNP that wish for self determination. Thats even home grown in your own camp." Nicola is questioned constantly cos she refuses to answer the 'when do you want the next ref?'question. Why can't she just tell the truth? | |||
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"Pish Onny. Complete and utter bollocks. There won't be one for a considerable time for many reasons. Cost probably being the biggest factor. Certainly not in the lifetime of the forth coming parliament not indeed in the lifetime of the next Scottish one. I agree. I doubt there'll ever be another referendum but it won't stop SNP greetin' like weans for one. The sole purpose of the SNP is separation. I agree with the latter part, top part is just infantile, as has been demonstrated pretty clear the past few week with the constant 'when's the next ref' line of questioning of Nicola. Though it's not just the SNP that wish for self determination. Thats even home grown in your own camp. Nicola is questioned constantly cos she refuses to answer the 'when do you want the next ref?'question. Why can't she just tell the truth?" She has answered time and time again there is no referendum and only the will of the scottish people will bring on another referendum. The reason why the UK parties keep going on about another one is because there own politics arent winning people over instead its hurting their parties as they keep going on about and people wanna hear where cuts is coming from and to try and win them over to vote for them . | |||
"Scotland has 59 seats there are 650 total england has 533 wales 40 and northern ireland 18 simple maths tells you we are not all powerful if labour hold major seats in england there may be negotiations with snp but by no means will they be the only party with any sway lib dem last election had 57 and according to the polls are looking at significant gains snp by their nature wont perform well out of scotland who in the rest of the uk will vote for a party that puts scotlands needs before the uks so would seem restricted to 59 its like a comedy show all the bluster and nonsense thats spouted pre election but you can bet your bottom euro none will come to pass viva la revolution" spot on the money kola. | |||
"I don't believe for a minute that the SNP will win the total of seats speculated. I think that the likes of Jim Murphy will be saved by Tories voting tactically. I don't really know what a natural SNP voter is - I regarded myself as a natural Labour voter until the start of their Holy and seemingly endless wars. My accountant assures me that I should be a Tory - but the ghosts of my parents would never rest if I brought that shame to them - and besides - I believe in social justice and supporting people who need help - in the same way that I believe in supporting artists and others who are willing to take a chance. I started my own business and put my house on the line - it is safe now - but I had some very scary times a few years ago. I never stopped believing in people - and never grudged a penny in tax - albeit there were times when I paid a tax bill and couldn't pay myself a wage. I ate a lot of beans and can tell you about 12p pasta meals. I won't be blackmailed into voting Labour as a better option than the Tories - I'll vote SNP with both my heart and my head - I didn't abandon Labour - Labour abandoned me. Jim Murphy might be well intentioned - but he lacks ideas. Alexander? I'd vote for his sister - but not for him. He oversaw an election that robbed tens of thousands of people of their vote. Labour's candidates just aren't bright enough or hard working enough. Don't forget - Labour brought this country to the brink of bankruptcy. The near bankruptcy - overseen by Labour - was brought about by the capricious and the vested interests of capital - at the expense of honest, decent working people. As things stand, myself and colleagues are doing okay - and we've made a commitment to employ people as and when we can and to pay no less than the Living Wage. No zero hour contracts, no exploitation. I don't need a referendum in the next Parliamentary sitting - and I trust in those who I vote for to concentrate their efforts on stimulating economic recovery and social justice. No compromise on my part - no Labour as the lesser of two evils - I will vote SNP - and don't dare blame me if the ineptitude, complacency and vacancy of the Labour party leads to a Tory Government " | |||
"I don't believe for a minute that the SNP will win the total of seats speculated. I think that the likes of Jim Murphy will be saved by Tories voting tactically. I don't really know what a natural SNP voter is - I regarded myself as a natural Labour voter until the start of their Holy and seemingly endless wars. My accountant assures me that I should be a Tory - but the ghosts of my parents would never rest if I brought that shame to them - and besides - I believe in social justice and supporting people who need help - in the same way that I believe in supporting artists and others who are willing to take a chance. I started my own business and put my house on the line - it is safe now - but I had some very scary times a few years ago. I never stopped believing in people - and never grudged a penny in tax - albeit there were times when I paid a tax bill and couldn't pay myself a wage. I ate a lot of beans and can tell you about 12p pasta meals. I won't be blackmailed into voting Labour as a better option than the Tories - I'll vote SNP with both my heart and my head - I didn't abandon Labour - Labour abandoned me. Jim Murphy might be well intentioned - but he lacks ideas. Alexander? I'd vote for his sister - but not for him. He oversaw an election that robbed tens of thousands of people of their vote. Labour's candidates just aren't bright enough or hard working enough. Don't forget - Labour brought this country to the brink of bankruptcy. The near bankruptcy - overseen by Labour - was brought about by the capricious and the vested interests of capital - at the expense of honest, decent working people. As things stand, myself and colleagues are doing okay - and we've made a commitment to employ people as and when we can and to pay no less than the Living Wage. No zero hour contracts, no exploitation. I don't need a referendum in the next Parliamentary sitting - and I trust in those who I vote for to concentrate their efforts on stimulating economic recovery and social justice. No compromise on my part - no Labour as the lesser of two evils - I will vote SNP - and don't dare blame me if the ineptitude, complacency and vacancy of the Labour party leads to a Tory Government " | |||
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"Better together....part of the union....lets work this out lets work hand in hand .....only a matter of months ago ....now....holy fuck what do you mean your coming to westminster ..no chance of us doing a deal with they jock feckers ..quick lock the door pretend we're out " | |||
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