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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok just wondering as i havent been on a bike for over 20 years, is there a need to rev the engine between gear changes or when sitting at traffic lights?
I thought bikes were like cars and just idled.I may well be wrong though.
Or is it a macho shit thing? If thats the case i am gonna rev my audi everytime i am stationery lol.
Go on chat amongst your selves now lol. Greig |
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just make sure you don`t rev the car next to a bike at the lights as if to "challenge" it in a race etc,as most bikes will leave your Audi(even an R8) looking rather slow as you both pull away then whos gonna look silly? Lol
Bikes have came a LONG way in 20 years and have supercar power for a fraction of the cost of a supercar,so pound for pound very good value indeed,so maybe they deserve a good ole Revving
Give bikes another go you might get the bug and enjoy yourself and feel the urge to rev at lights etc yourself Lol
p.s
Amazing the amount of folk in cars who don`t notice a bike when "filtering" through stationary traffic as there too busy txting,foning or listning to very loud music etc,so i ALWAYS rev my bike passing them idiots with my very loud exhaust which tends to wake em up from bubble and get them over a bit and stop them hogging middle line leaving no room for bikes to get through!
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over a year ago
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ahhhh the old "filtering through traffic" line....here is me thinking a motorcycle is a "vehicle" and as such has to obey the rules of the law/highway code, wonder if next time there is a line of motorcycles on a ride out i can just "filter" my car through them?!!
Wonder who would be in the wrong if a motorcycle way just "filering" through stationary traffic and a 10 yr old girl had to open the door to be sick maybe ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As in a car, just increase the revs as you release the clutch... no stationary revving required.
Mr.Classy
Ps. On a motorcyle as on a pedal cycle, filtering is a perfectly legal maneuver that's best performed with caution. I once witnessed a driver exiting his car, open the door.. only to have it instantly removed from the vehicle by a passing lorry- it was the car drivers responsibility to look first. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"ahhhh the old "filtering through traffic" line....here is me thinking a motorcycle is a "vehicle" and as such has to obey the rules of the law/highway code, wonder if next time there is a line of motorcycles on a ride out i can just "filter" my car through them?!!
Wonder who would be in the wrong if a motorcycle way just "filering" through stationary traffic and a 10 yr old girl had to open the door to be sick maybe ? "
Dependant on exact details, the courts/insurance companys would likely apportion blame as 50/50 or solely on the owner of the car (who has a responsibility to be aware of more vulnerable road users).
Mr.Classy
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nods at Mike
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Amazing the amount of folk in cars who don`t notice a bike when "filtering" through stationary traffic as there too busy txting,foning or listning to very loud music etc,"
If the cars were stationary then there is no need for them to be looking for motorcyclists.... granted, they should come to a rest in a position where they are not causing an obstruction... but once stationary, the observation is down to the biker.
Or, do you really mean while filtering through traffic that is going slower than you want to go?
This morning approaching the Forth Bridge, signs are showing high winds, bike is using both lanes to weave between the traffic as its going too slow (around 40mph). Once on the bridge, traffic going awfully slow, wonder why? Oh, its that fecking bike thats now doing 20mph over the bridge holding everyone esle up, thats the game eh? 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and top speed of 1000 miles an hour mean feck all now eh (as a 18 wheel artic passes the bike at 45mph, lol)
Only my opinion, just like car drivers or HGV drivers, theres good and bad in them all
PS... if the traffic is moving slow then I will always move over to allow bikers to pass, either on the white line on a DC or M'way or move well left so they can pass safely on my right. Pointless holding them up just cos I cant go anywhere.
PPS....note to bikers....when following Vans that have no back windows, or have boards up at the window, dont sit right behind them, they cant see you!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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1 of my pet hates that,,your sitn like a loon in a traffic jam on the m8 and the bikers just weave through the traffic as if its there god given right to beat the que
auds xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Irresistable, to be on a bike and traffic is stationary/queueing,as a lot are saying, do it safely and yer fine, but there are certain high concentration type areas, the northern approach to the forth bridge at 5pm for example, 3 lanes become 2 and then just before bridge a filter from your left, i tend to resent the bikes going through like missiles.Just adds to the chaos! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Irresistable, to be on a bike and traffic is stationary/queueing,as a lot are saying, do it safely and yer fine, but there are certain high concentration type areas, the northern approach to the forth bridge at 5pm for example, 3 lanes become 2 and then just before bridge a filter from your left, i tend to resent the bikes going through like missiles.Just adds to the chaos!"
Agrees.... also resent the cars heading up the third lane and sqeeeeeeeuuuuzing in at the last moment too, grrrr
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well Greg and havin newly passed test and stolen johns bike i now find i have time to fly about on lonesome lol. As soon as i sit a set of traffic lights i slip into neutral slide forward slightly on seat lol and blip throttle 2 or 3 times quite sharply i may add as bike is bit old theres a few loose things that rattle so do you guesse why i might rev at traffic lights - not matcho - sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer enjoyment lol xxxxxxx |
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"must remember that mines not that loud though lol xxxxx
Duke 916 with termoghini exhausts usually does it,lol"
Used to do the same with my Monstro, ah halcyon days...
...oh, and the reason we rev the engine, change gear twice as often as we need to and blip the throttle at every opportunity?
It sounds fucking awesome.
And it feels even better.
Now shutup and go back to listening to David Gray in your Audis.
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"GO GO POWER RANGERS !!!!!!
that is all..
mike.
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If you want it
Come and get it
Crying out loud
The love that I was
Giving you was
Never in doubt
Let go your heart
Let go your head
And feel it now
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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all joking aside, the initial post was about revving bikes ect, im a car driver and i do it, ive had nothing but sports cars for a lot of years now and i rev match, double clutch and when im 'making progress" i even heel/toe..all this involves blipping or revving the engine, i know some bike riders who do similar, bike riders are not a bad bunch, certainly a lot more "road savvy" than a lot of car drivers,bike riders have a lot less distractions eg radios, mobile phones or even passengers yapping at you.
ref my power rangers comment that comes from my only 2 wheeled love....classic vespas and lambrettas brum da ding ding pop !!!..lol |
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to the original topic of revving the engine, it is so that you can change gear without using the clutch. some bikes are set low in the revs so they need the revs to be held at the lights.
normally at lights if a biker revs his engine at a car driver it is a invitation to a race - unless you drive a veron supercar the car does not have the power to weight of a bike.
On the topic of filtering - it is legal. ......................and we can lol
if a car is stationary in traffic the driver is still responsible to look as they are in charge of a MV. the biker can legally pass either side of you
an old gripe with bikers is that before you get a car you should spend some time riding a motorbike - you would learn more about road conditions and how stupid car drivers can be.
cross winds can effect any vehicle from HGV to bikes , i have seen bikes blown across 3 lanes on the motorway, and you wonder why they go slow in those conditions
ok rant over .
PS. WELL DONE yahoo on passing your test one more of us on the road to piss off cagers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Is "Filtering" when the traffic is quite slow or stationary? Reason i ask is,i see this daily on forth bridge where we car drivers are going at decent speeds,,50 - 60mph and still bikes dart between us.
Does that then become the biker taking a risk and its actually not "filtering" its a gamble?
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"Is "Filtering" when the traffic is quite slow or stationary? Reason i ask is,i see this daily on forth bridge where we car drivers are going at decent speeds,,50 - 60mph and still bikes dart between us.
Does that then become the biker taking a risk and its actually not "filtering" its a gamble?
" You are expected to "filter" through slower moving traffic to make decent progress even on a test(as long as examiner is also on a bike as some are in cars),its mainly done in stationary or slower moving heavy traffic,so best thing to do is keep right over to left if in left lane or right over to right line if in right lane if in car that way bikers can get through without taking your mirrors!
As for throwing the dummy just because someone is getting to their destination quicker than you whilst your probably sitting ON YOUR OWN in your 5 seater car taking up all the road space seems like justice to me dont you think?
look at some of the busiest cities in the world and you will find the ONLY reason they dont come to a grinding halt is the fact they MAINLY have motorcycles as main transport and if thay had cars it would be the worst thing possible for them.
btw im not anti car as had many fast and ordinary cars and i also have an HGV cat c+e(class 1 in old money),so being a biker makes me a BETTER HGV driver as i`m always aware of double checking for bikes in the blind spots etc, so give us a wee break now and then as were just normal folk with a hobby we love. |
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By *adcowWoman
over a year ago
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"Well Greg and havin newly passed test and stolen johns bike i now find i have time to fly about on lonesome lol. As soon as i sit a set of traffic lights i slip into neutral slide forward slightly on seat lol and blip throttle 2 or 3 times quite sharply i may add as bike is bit old theres a few loose things that rattle so do you guesse why i might rev at traffic lights - not matcho - sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer enjoyment lol xxxxxxx"
BEST EXCUSE FOR REVVING A BIKE I'VE EVER HEARD MRS XXXXXX |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Loving the fact that mrs yahoo gets all wet and raunchy on her bike, well done on passing your test xxx.
Also liking the fact the fact that the bikers (nearly) have been honest to say that it is just a macho bullshit kinda thing. Power rangers it is Mike just as i thought.
David Grey Audi hmmm? sensual i think you will find that in the rain and wind an Audi may just touch your back wheel at 40 and have you off lol.
Last but not least.... people can see what i look like in a car... no one knows what the idiot revving his bike looks like so hey ho you wont pull by revving it.hehehehe |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I filter through the traffic on my Bikes it's perfectly Legal and I love to be out on one of them, actually I get out on them as much as I can.
I've taken a few Ladies off this site out on them as well and they enjoyed it.
Revving at the Lights I dont really do unless the Car driver is chatting on their Mobile Phone and then they get some Revs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is "Filtering" when the traffic is quite slow or stationary? Reason i ask is,i see this daily on forth bridge where we car drivers are going at decent speeds,,50 - 60mph and still bikes dart between us.
Does that then become the biker taking a risk and its actually not "filtering" its a gamble?
You are expected to "filter" through slower moving traffic to make decent progress even on a test(as long as examiner is also on a bike as some are in cars),its mainly done in stationary or slower moving heavy traffic,so best thing to do is keep right over to left if in left lane or right over to right line if in right lane if in car that way bikers can get through without taking your mirrors!
As for throwing the dummy just because someone is getting to their destination quicker than you whilst your probably sitting ON YOUR OWN in your 5 seater car taking up all the road space seems like justice to me dont you think?
look at some of the busiest cities in the world and you will find the ONLY reason they dont come to a grinding halt is the fact they MAINLY have motorcycles as main transport and if thay had cars it would be the worst thing possible for them.
btw im not anti car as had many fast and ordinary cars and i also have an HGV cat c+e(class 1 in old money),so being a biker makes me a BETTER HGV driver as i`m always aware of double checking for bikes in the blind spots etc, so give us a wee break now and then as were just normal folk with a hobby we love. "
Been riding motorbikes since i was 14,but i also drive the merc long wheel base sprinter with reduced rear vision and thats where my thing about bikes both creeping up in my blind area and then rocketing by the side of van,couple that with the car drivers who will risk life n limb because of that "gotta get past the feckin van" attitude, you get the picture, ohh aye, Wacky races is what its like at times. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A couple of quotes from Motorcycle mags:
In 2006 an appeal court judge stood the whole thing on its head. In Davis vs Shrogin, the judge found that, and I quote,"a filtering motorcyclist passing stationary or very slow moving traffic could not be to blame if a collision occured if the rider had no chance to take avoiding action.
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Contrary to the belief of some motorists, filtering is entirely legal in the UK, providing that it is done safely. Once traffic speeds are high enough to suggest that the traffic is no longer queuing, your manoeuvre may then be regarded as a dangerous overtake.
So, filtering in stationary or slow moving (ie in a queue) traffic is completely legal (and rightly so) but when its obvious that the traffic is no longer queuing and is free flowing it becomes dangerous and subject to prosecution.
As mentioned in posts above, I regularly check my mirrors for motorcyclists and push bikes filtering when I am slow/stopped and try to, where I can move to a position in the road to aid them doing this, especially when near HGV's.
I will also move closer to the left curb even when driving, so to let a bike past (even though no obligation to do so).
Have no issue with 99% of bikers that follow the rules....just unfortunate theres a few that let the side down.
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"A couple of quotes from Motorcycle mags:
In 2006 an appeal court judge stood the whole thing on its head. In Davis vs Shrogin, the judge found that, and I quote,"a filtering motorcyclist passing stationary or very slow moving traffic could not be to blame if a collision occured if the rider had no chance to take avoiding action.
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Contrary to the belief of some motorists, filtering is entirely legal in the UK, providing that it is done safely. Once traffic speeds are high enough to suggest that the traffic is no longer queuing, your manoeuvre may then be regarded as a dangerous overtake.
So, filtering in stationary or slow moving (ie in a queue) traffic is completely legal (and rightly so) but when its obvious that the traffic is no longer queuing and is free flowing it becomes dangerous and subject to prosecution.
As mentioned in posts above, I regularly check my mirrors for motorcyclists and push bikes filtering when I am slow/stopped and try to, where I can move to a position in the road to aid them doing this, especially when near HGV's.
I will also move closer to the left curb even when driving, so to let a bike past (even though no obligation to do so).
Have no issue with 99% of bikers that follow the rules....just unfortunate theres a few that let the side down.
Steve
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Some good sensible advice there. |
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"Revving at the Lights I dont really do unless the Car driver is chatting on their Mobile Phone and then they get some Revs "
Mainly the reason i do it and have loud can etc as the "Lane Jumpers" in slow traffic dont even check mirrors before nipping in and back out of both lanes to gain a few feet here and there! THIS should be seen as dangerous driving as shows no concern for cyclist or motorcyclists who are very vulnerable. |
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"Been riding motorbikes since i was 14,but i also drive the merc long wheel base sprinter with reduced rear vision and thats where my thing about bikes both creeping up in my blind area and then rocketing by the side of van,couple that with the car drivers who will risk life n limb because of that "gotta get past the feckin van" "
A BASIC rule of thumb that should be drummed into drivers heads no matter what vehicle we drive when behind another car/truck/van etc is the old saying "if you can`t see my mirrors i can`t see you"
Simple advice and VERY true. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ahhhh the old "filtering through traffic" line....here is me thinking a motorcycle is a "vehicle" and as such has to obey the rules of the law/highway code, wonder if next time there is a line of motorcycles on a ride out i can just "filter" my car through them?!!
Wonder who would be in the wrong if a motorcycle way just "filering" through stationary traffic and a 10 yr old girl had to open the door to be sick maybe ? "
Well thats a good point, but..... if you read the highway code, it does state that stationary traffic is parked traffic. i.e at trafic lights and junctions, so can be overtaken safely. Thought i would point that out cause it is pretty obvious
An if your child was going to be sick, am sure you as a parent would have noticed this before pulling up to a set of traffic lights and use a layby in a safe mannor. or parks the vehicle.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Plus, being an ex-biker and racer, we are always rite haha.
Simple thing is, dont worry about the biker behind you, he will be past you before you can say too much about it and will choose his momment. Just drive your cars/vans and trucks. We will sort our selfs out thanks |
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By *igtechMan
over a year ago
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my super duke with akkys fair fuck off folk on phone lol
dont need to rev the ducattis they loud enough lol so if i see lass at lights revving tits of know its gillian getting aquainted to bike lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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no,you dont need to rev between gear changes,unless your racing,
and when im at traffic lights,i flick the bike into netural,and give my wrists a breather |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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That is exactly the honest answer i was looking for. So if you ride a bike or drive a car.... STOP revving the crap outa your engine.. you look like a child with a new toy !! |
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"no,you dont need to rev between gear changes,unless your racing,
and when im at traffic lights,i flick the bike into netural,and give my wrists a breather "
More info on the Swinging Bikers Idea you mention in profile please!!
Maybe start a new Thread in Scotland forum for us lot up here? |
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By *lay_N_cum2Couple
over a year ago
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Mr Play....does at times feel the need to rev his bike at traffic lights....why???/ I don't know....but prefer him doing that than singing Boyzone as he was last time...we got stuck in Dundee...I was blushing through my helmet....lol
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"Mr Play....does at times feel the need to rev his bike at traffic lights....why???/ I don't know....but prefer him doing that than singing Boyzone as he was last time...we got stuck in Dundee...I was blushing through my helmet....lol
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Let me get this straight.
He was on his bike?
He was singing Boyzone?
Divorce him. Divorce him now.
It's for the best. |
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