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By *976scott OP Man
over a year ago
North Lanarkshire |
Just finished a wee mini tour of Scotland up to Aberdeen for a couple of nights then 3 nights over on the West coast between Fort William and Inverness!
Cracking break, great weather, great laugh and great scenery!
There was a few things that annoyed me though!
1) Loads of places don't open till March! Do we shut for winter?
2) No mobile signal!
3) We rip off tourists! £22 to get into the Loch Ness experience for 20 min "entertainment"!!! £20 for Urquart castle a ruin!!!
4) Not a Greggs for miles!!!
Ok the last one was a wind up and I had a great time just like a moan!
What does everyone love or hate about our tourist places!
Oh I forgot to mention tourist tat shops!!! |
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap."
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day |
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By *976scott OP Man
over a year ago
North Lanarkshire |
"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day"
Lol!
I must have missed the SNP party political broadcast that promised;
1) open all year round
2) stop ripping off tourists
3) full mobile phone coverage
4) Greggs for everyone
5) Reduce tourist tat shops to the bare minimum!
I might have voted yes then! Lol  |
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By *976scott OP Man
over a year ago
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"sorry no, cant do that
Not everything is about politics. And not everyone is interested in hearing about it."
Lol! Totally agree there was no mention of it in the post!
Although I might stand at the next election under the campaign slogan!
"Greggs for everyone"!!!
Everyone deserves a fresh sausage roll and yumyum!  |
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"sorry no, cant do that
Not everything is about politics. And not everyone is interested in hearing about it.
Lol! Totally agree there was no mention of it in the post!
Although I might stand at the next election under the campaign slogan!
"Greggs for everyone"!!!
Everyone deserves a fresh sausage roll and yumyum! "
Make it a fudge doughnut and they'll get my vote |
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over a year ago
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"sorry no, cant do that
Not everything is about politics. And not everyone is interested in hearing about it."
and your point is?
the heading of the thread is:
Scotland is a beautiful country but:
and the but is; it is run by Westminster, that's the fact of it, that is what the NO voters requested and that is what the problem is with Scotland |
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That is indeed the heading of the thread, and he explained why he had the 'but'.
The actual question he's asking is about tourism, not about politics.
If you want to discuss politics, open a thread and discuss it to your heart's content. Don't hijack posts and turn them into a political statement. You sound ridiculous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hate seeing fly tipping all over the country side and rubbish everywhere. I am sure i saw nick the dick clegg dropping westminster rubbish and david cameron unloading an old fridge from a transit van !!!!! |
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On a serious not though it is frustrating that so many places apart from the shite close for winter. Eilean Donan castle used to close until last year. It killed Skye's tourism as its one of those must do things on the way there. It's the knock on effect of some places not opening too.
Urquart is a rip off for sure. It's only £20 if you do the cruise with Jacobite. Cheaper on its own - but if you're taking a family it's costly. There are cooler castles for free. One wee hidden gem in Finlarig, at Killin. Old Campbell pad. Kilchurn is cool too and free.
Phone signal is a nightmare. O2 has next to no coverage North of Stirling with exception of Ft William and Inverness. Vodaphone is best coverage but still poor.
Other side of the coin is; it's Scotland. The North is rural. It's what you get. Enjoy it while the roads are quiet and you get the place to yourself! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is indeed the heading of the thread, and he explained why he had the 'but'.
The actual question he's asking is about tourism, not about politics.
If you want to discuss politics, open a thread and discuss it to your heart's content. Don't hijack posts and turn them into a political statement. You sound ridiculous. "
I so want to stop but how can I when you think you are gods gift and tell all what they can say, when & where, I suspect you will always want to have the "last" word
is there any such thing as freedom of speech |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap."
Apart from the £2.5m Danny Alexander managed to get Visit Britain to give Loch Ness area to save his arse come May. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Other side of the coin is; it's Scotland. The North is rural. It's what you get. Enjoy it while the roads are quiet and you get the place to yourself! "
some perfect biking roads up past inverness, Torridon way |
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"That is indeed the heading of the thread, and he explained why he had the 'but'.
The actual question he's asking is about tourism, not about politics.
If you want to discuss politics, open a thread and discuss it to your heart's content. Don't hijack posts and turn them into a political statement. You sound ridiculous.
I so want to stop but how can I when you think you are gods gift and tell all what they can say, when & where, I suspect you will always want to have the "last" word
is there any such thing as freedom of speech "
At what point did I say I was gods gift?! All I said was that you should not hijack someone's post to complain about the referendum. It's rude.
ANYWAY... back to tourism. As a child my parents would take us to Aviemore and other places, but I haven't really explored my country as an adult. I really should. I have friends in Nairn and what I've seen of that part is gorgeous  |
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By *976scott OP Man
over a year ago
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At least we still have free speech!
That's what the forums are about!
Thanks Bo and Daisy, there were no boat tours from Urquat at this time of year but still £20 give or take for me and the two kids!
Unless it had WiFi they wouldn't have been that exited about it! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Other side of the coin is; it's Scotland. The North is rural. It's what you get. Enjoy it while the roads are quiet and you get the place to yourself!
some perfect biking roads up past inverness, Torridon way"
Agreed Torridon, loch Maree, gairlochy right up to applecross and Durness. Great driving roads. Not if you're in a hurry though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At least we still have free speech!
That's what the forums are about!
Thanks Bo and Daisy, there were no boat tours from Urquat at this time of year but still £20 give or take for me and the two kids!
Unless it had WiFi they wouldn't have been that exited about it! Lol"
Cool one with the kids for a fiver is Loch Leven castle. Where mary queen of Scots was held captive. That includes the wee boat ferry there n back. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Has anyone driven from Torridon to Applecross via Fearnbeg - Kalnakill
if you have never driven this route it is a must do, but be warned, not for the light hearted
this is one scary road  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day"
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster? "
Faslane is a good starting point. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster?
Faslane is a good starting point."
You can't see Faslane from Westminster so it can hardly spoil the view. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster?
Faslane is a good starting point.
You can't see Faslane from Westminster so it can hardly spoil the view."
and that's just the way they like it, right? |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster?
Faslane is a good starting point.
You can't see Faslane from Westminster so it can hardly spoil the view.
and that's just the way they like it, right? "
You can't see it from Holyrood either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's no doubt about it...our scenery is second to none along with our people's warm and hospitable natures. But I can't help thinking we could improve our service from the tourists point of view.
In the height of summer the ice cream shop in my favourite wee north east town closes at 5pm!!!! I mean...come on guys!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster?
Faslane is a good starting point.
You can't see Faslane from Westminster so it can hardly spoil the view.
and that's just the way they like it, right?
You can't see it from Holyrood either."
And that's just the way they like it, right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh for gods sake give the sodding referendum a rest!  "
that's a thing we hear a lot from the NO voters, perhaps most feel so foolish now, if not disappointed
The yes voters will continue to thrive for an independent Scotland, a country we can be proud off |
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By (user no longer on site)
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To be fair it was all tongue in cheek 'til Onny arrived. He just can't help himself - and then it's just plain ride not to oblige.
But, back to tourism. Was out for a ride today with an old work colleague and we toured along East Lotian Coast then up to the Lammermuir hills.
Such an untapped resource there for tourists and full of great history, castles, monasterys , lochs, birth place of John Muir and even the Glenkinchie! Grew up there and it's still one of my fav parts of the country.
The industry is pre programmed to have people arrive in edinburgh or glasgow then head north when there's so much on offer across the central belt and below. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just finished a wee mini tour of Scotland up to Aberdeen for a couple of nights then 3 nights over on the West coast between Fort William and Inverness!
Cracking break, great weather, great laugh and great scenery!
There was a few things that annoyed me though!
1) Loads of places don't open till March! Do we shut for winter?
2) No mobile signal!
3) We rip off tourists! £22 to get into the Loch Ness experience for 20 min "entertainment"!!! £20 for Urquart castle a ruin!!!
4) Not a Greggs for miles!!!
Ok the last one was a wind up and I had a great time just like a moan!
What does everyone love or hate about our tourist places!
Oh I forgot to mention tourist tat shops!!!"
Semi-serious response to the points made
1) Large parts of the Lake District, Cornwall, west Wales shut down this time of year so it's not uncommon. You can still look at the b_nny hills and lochs and stuff. Just take a picnic
2) You'd not hear it ringing over the sound your tractor makes (also goes for vibrations) Plus sheep & deer don't use mobiles
3)They're paying it, otherwise they wouldn't be charging it.
4) Hooray!
I love the tourist tat shops. Specifically - looking at the crap sold, wondering who would buy such a cheap-shit tawdry trinket, looking at the till and realising "oh. Them" |
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But I wish we'd tidy up our road verges, driving today into Glasgow and the edges of the main tourist route alongside Loch Lomond are trashed - disgusting litter everywhere and most must originate from being chucked out of cars - we should be more like New Zealand and take more pride in our countryside |
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"But I wish we'd tidy up our road verges, driving today into Glasgow and the edges of the main tourist route alongside Loch Lomond are trashed - disgusting litter everywhere and most must originate from being chucked out of cars - we should be more like New Zealand and take more pride in our countryside"
A lot of it, like alongside Loch Lubnaig near Callander used to be, is left from wild campers. Not the camping as a hobby campers, but the campers from inner city and slab of pro lager and bottles of Buckie campers.
That's one of the reasons theres a new centre at Lubnaig. To stop it. They're looking at clamping down on Loch Lomond park too. It is a disgrace. Skye getting that way in bits too, just north of Broadford. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Scotland's a beautiful country but... It's got more than its fair share of numpties who like the sound of their own voice
(just stirring the pot up  ha ha!) |
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Didn't realise the prices of urquhart castle and loch ness experience. It really is a shocking price.
Done driving for a small golf tour for Americans and they spent £400 on golf stuff (at carnoustie) like polo shirts and caps etc
£75 was like the cheapest polo shirt. |
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"But I wish we'd tidy up our road verges, driving today into Glasgow and the edges of the main tourist route alongside Loch Lomond are trashed - disgusting litter everywhere and most must originate from being chucked out of cars - we should be more like New Zealand and take more pride in our countryside"
If YOU don't stop to pick it up then YOU are just as guilty.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Lol!
I must have missed the SNP party political broadcast that promised;
1) open all year round
2) stop ripping off tourists
3) full mobile phone coverage
4) Greggs for everyone
5) Reduce tourist tat shops to the bare minimum!
I might have voted yes then! Lol "
hahahahahahahaha |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"sorry no, cant do that
Not everything is about politics. And not everyone is interested in hearing about it.
and your point is?
the heading of the thread is:
Scotland is a beautiful country but:
and the but is; it is run by Westminster, that's the fact of it, that is what the NO voters requested and that is what the problem is with Scotland"
give yourself peace pal, you lost so stop stampin your feet like a toddler having a tantrum & get over it. This was a lighthearted post with no political connotations at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is indeed the heading of the thread, and he explained why he had the 'but'.
The actual question he's asking is about tourism, not about politics.
If you want to discuss politics, open a thread and discuss it to your heart's content. Don't hijack posts and turn them into a political statement. You sound ridiculous. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some absolutely amazing places in Scotland. Try visiting Easdale and Easdale Island on the west coast. Part of the slate islands with fantastic slate quarries. Beautiful picture village and brilliant little museum. Then there's (what I think) is the best view in Scotland from the top of the Cairn 'o Mount on the Fettercairn to Banchory road. Lovely road, with a great wee restaurant at Clatterin' Brig. It's close to me, and still my favourite road. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Always remember whilst working in a large hotel in glasgow we had an American tour group staying, 2 wee old ladies came and asked me in reception, "when they were building edinburgh castle why did they not think of the people visiting it and make it more accessible" I was speechless  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"sorry no, cant do that
Not everything is about politics. And not everyone is interested in hearing about it.
and your point is?
the heading of the thread is:
Scotland is a beautiful country but:
and the but is; it is run by Westminster, that's the fact of it, that is what the NO voters requested and that is what the problem is with Scotland give yourself peace pal, you lost so stop stampin your feet like a toddler having a tantrum & get over it. This was a lighthearted post with no political connotations at all."
Says the man who can't stop posting replies to anything loosely connected in other posts. Gie it a rest man, ye won. |
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"Just finished a wee mini tour of Scotland up to Aberdeen for a couple of nights then 3 nights over on the West coast between Fort William and Inverness!
3) We rip off tourists! £22 to get into the Loch Ness experience for 20 min "entertainment"!!! £20 for Urquart castle a ruin!!!
What does everyone love or hate about our tourist places!
Oh I forgot to mention tourist tat shops!!!"
You need to visit Stirling, take a walk through the castle and allow plenty time, it will fill you with proudness. and in the summer once you have been round the castle, take a walk through the graveyard, some amazing head stones, Wallace monument also amazing and fills you with pride,
Edinburgh castle is a must see, again plenty time needed.
The History of Scotland is all around us, take it all in, its simply amazing as is the proudness of many Scots.
Venture up to Dunkeld at the end of each October for the Amber festival, this first started in 2005 and continues every year The festival is held in a range of distinctive venues including Pitlochry Festival Theatre, Blair Castle, Dunkeld Cathedral, The Crannog, Castle Menzies, and The Baronial Hall
Dougie MacLean puts a huge amount of effort into this and speads it through his local community, well worth a visit.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tourism is a devolved power. If its crap, it's Holyrood crap.
The country has fantastic views but totally spoiled by Westminster, we could have escaped the Westminster grip but sadly far too many without courage to say YES
this wont last long though, the YES vote is getting stronger day by day
Was thinking the same thing!
Where would you have to stand to get a view of Scotland spoiled by Westminster? "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Scotland beautiful country and still....BRITISH....
Phew... Had a close one in September but good sense prevailed..
Well said.
i second that"
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"But I wish we'd tidy up our road verges, driving today into Glasgow and the edges of the main tourist route alongside Loch Lomond are trashed - disgusting litter everywhere and most must originate from being chucked out of cars - we should be more like New Zealand and take more pride in our countryside
A lot of it, like alongside Loch Lubnaig near Callander used to be, is left from wild campers. Not the camping as a hobby campers, but the campers from inner city and slab of pro lager and bottles of Buckie campers.
That's one of the reasons theres a new centre at Lubnaig. To stop it. They're looking at clamping down on Loch Lomond park too. It is a disgrace. Skye getting that way in bits too, just north of Broadford."
You're probably right although along verges seems to be mainly take away coffee cartons and other 'snack' debris. Have seen occasionally people slinging stuff out their car windows - seems too much effort to take it home or bin it for some folks |
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The Falls of Bruar, near Blair Atholl
(Park at House of Bruar and the walk is behind this)
A beautiful short but surprisingly strenuous walk with good views of the gorge and falls from two stone bridges and a picnic area, there are clear paths on a hilly route with some steep sections and sheer drops at the gorge edge
but lovely views and crystal clear water
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By (user no longer on site)
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More Scots should get out and about and savour our wonderful natural gift.
Dont worry about tourist tat shops. Thats for tourists!!.
Take a wee picnic, some special treats a few( i shouidnt but i will treats)
Sit and enjoy a lovely spot, taking in the sights and sounds and smells of nature that abounds in the wonderful scenery. No sight or sound or smell of westminster or holyrood. Just Bonnie scotland and being Scottish with the privilage of having all this on our doorstep.
As for free speach! Sometimes better managed with a big stick. As with all things,free. Some take the piss!
Merely an observation( no political or religeous connotations)  |
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By *976scott OP Man
over a year ago
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"More Scots should get out and about and savour our wonderful natural gift.
Dont worry about tourist tat shops. Thats for tourists!!.
Take a wee picnic, some special treats a few( i shouidnt but i will treats)
Sit and enjoy a lovely spot, taking in the sights and sounds and smells of nature that abounds in the wonderful scenery. No sight or sound or smell of westminster or holyrood. Just Bonnie scotland and being Scottish with the privilage of having all this on our doorstep.
As for free speach! Sometimes better managed with a big stick. As with all things,free. Some take the piss!
Merely an observation( no political or religeous connotations) "
Well said |
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By *976scott OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'm really hopie the 'Not a Greggs for miles' was a joke!"
Lack of a Greggs is no joke my man! Just think of those poor highlanders who don't have the option of a Steak bake or a cheese and onion pasty for lunch!
Driving through Glencoe I couldn't help thinking to myself, the only thing that could make this place better is a blue and white Greggs sign! |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"On a serious not though it is frustrating that so many places apart from the shite close for winter. Eilean Donan castle used to close until last year. It killed Skye's tourism as its one of those must do things on the way there. It's the knock on effect of some places not opening too.
Urquart is a rip off for sure. It's only £20 if you do the cruise with Jacobite. Cheaper on its own - but if you're taking a family it's costly. There are cooler castles for free. One wee hidden gem in Finlarig, at Killin. Old Campbell pad. Kilchurn is cool too and free.
Phone signal is a nightmare. O2 has next to no coverage North of Stirling with exception of Ft William and Inverness. Vodaphone is best coverage but still poor.
Other side of the coin is; it's Scotland. The North is rural. It's what you get. Enjoy it while the roads are quiet and you get the place to yourself! "
If you get annual membership with Historic Scotland, you can get 2 adults and up to 8 kids into their attractions as many times as you like for around £80 a year
I'm sure Scottish Heritage would be about the same price too so it makes these places well worth the visit.
We have fantastic scenery BUT........despite its bad points Scotland is still a much nicer office when you drive for a living than London |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The biggest thing that gets me now is those wind farms they have spoiled som beautiful views "
See, I think the turbines are a thing of beauty, I think they're very graceful when operative. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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442 Breeding pairs of GOLDEN EAGLES in Scotland at the last count, this is simply amazing
A new count is just beginning and that is a true inspiration to Scotland.
All of the golden eagles in the UK are found in Scotland, mainly in the Highlands and Islands, except for a solitary male in the Lake District
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By (user no longer on site)
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I work in wildlife conservation in the highlands, means I get to places most people don't. Some fantastic places, awe inspiring. You just got to get out there and find them. Although I am from down the road I find the country beautiful, with some fantastic people...I say some as I have also had my share of grief based on where I am from...that said I wouldn't go back. Who needs holidays abroad when its on your doorstep. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"442 Breeding pairs of GOLDEN EAGLES in Scotland at the last count, this is simply amazing
A new count is just beginning and that is a true inspiration to Scotland.
All of the golden eagles in the UK are found in Scotland, mainly in the Highlands and Islands, except for a solitary male in the Lake District
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Why weren't we told this before Sept 18th? It could have affected the outcome. |
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