FabSwingers.com
 

FabSwingers.com > Forums > Scotland > Euthanasia - How to Die with Dignity

Euthanasia - How to Die with Dignity

Jump to: Newest in thread

 

By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

a few years ago I attended my older Aunt & Uncles 65th Wedding anniversary and what a great celebration of life and commitment.

Not long after, my Aunt (91 year old) was diagnosed with dimensia and things have gone sadly down hill.

A couple in their 90's who adored each other are now at wits end they have forgotten the 65 years of love and commitment and say things that are simply so wrong.

Does anyone agree with Euthanasia & How to Die with Dignity; things may change in Scotland and in a way I support EXIT who's believes are:

We support the right to choose. Every human being has a legitimate interest in his or her own death and manner of dying. We believe in offering the individual some choice in orchestrating that very personal time. For some, that choice will be to accept all possible treatments that modern technology can offer; for others, protecting quality of life before quantity may be the most important element, for others, it may be dying in a way that reflects their living, perhaps retaining some control over the dying process and maybe the time and circumstances of death and, even if it is never used, holding the key to the door marked "Exit."

one thing for certain is we are all going to die, I would prefer to chose my time and place; The late Margo MacDonald fought for the belief in this, I think I will also fight the case for others in the same situation.

so sad.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm with you 100%

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree in euthanasia as long as the person is fully aware of what they are doing. I find it so sad that people are made to suffer such indignities when they are dying when they can and should be able to end their lives in the company of their loved ones if they so chose.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm with you 100% "

Add me to this as well

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman  over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

My mum had three strokes the last was one she had was the worst.

Her and my dad had spoken about such things when she had her 2nd stroke.

So when she had this 3Rd stroke she was in a coma for the first eight days and docs asked the family if her Heart was to stop did we want her resuscitated?

After asking what her quality of life would be like my dad and myself took the decision on mums request not to be resuscitated which was the hardest decision of my life despite knowing it was my mum's wishes.

Thankfully my mum survived and after 23weeks in hospital she finally came home... Well what I actually mean by that is her body came home her personality died along with many other things.

I often look at her now and feel blessed that she is still here but often wonder if she feels the same trappend in the body she is now left in,she can't walk, talk, eat or do anything for herself.

I know what she wished had happend deep down and that's painful knowing that.

Do I agree with euthanasia? Absolutely YES!!!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Done the correct way yes

I also agree

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ockandhishenCouple  over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire

I agree 110%

Hen x

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

very interesting post , will be keeping an eye on this one , as for my opinion I will sit on the fence

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, definitely agree with this as well!

My gran spent her last few years on a home, unable to really speak and not recognising anyone she saw. She didn't respond to any stimulus and like just about everyone else that was in there just spent the days staring at walls and the tv and that is no way spend your twilight years.

I hope that by the time I get old, euthanasia will be legal and I can choose when to go.

As a side question, would this potentially relieve some of the pressure on the NHS as we might not have such an ageing population?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ifes journeyCouple  over a year ago

scotland

Agree totally

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *vbride1963TV/TS  over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

Money or stress on health service should never be an issue for this .

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

fantastic post it should be 100% yes

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Totally agree I have told my family anything happens to me that I have no quality of life please let this happen to me so I can go out with dignity

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My grampa suffered with parkinsons for the last few years,eventually becoming unable to talk or do anything for himself.the decision was made not to rescucitate,(we think he would have said the same himself if he was able),his quality of life was next to zero,which is no reflection on the care team in the home who were fantastic.

So yes i agree totally with being able to choose when and how we die

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ane DTV/TS  over a year ago

London - till 25th

Some on here know my personal situation.

Personally, I feel the option to end ones life should be available to those with terminal or extreme life limiting conditions.

However, this option should only be at the very end of a long legal trail of proof and medical investigation. And only enacted after the "care system" has been overhauled to provide something that's fit for purpose.

I routinely have to deal with the comment - "Why should I bother any more, I'm just a burden, I should end it"

Over the 20 years of dealing with the situation I find myself in, I have come to be live that the Social Care system in this country is not broken, it's dysfunctional and is only there to cause pain and stress to the disabled and their carers and families.

It needs torn down and rebuilt from the bottom up.

If we can do this, providing better support to those with ongoing care issues and responsibilities it would help to reduce the "burden" aspect felt by many of those with serious conditions.

Fix the un"caring" system first - then look at the "end of life" issues.

I fear that the cart will be put before the horse once more and we will end up with an "end of life" act that's a dogs breakfast.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lost my bestest friend last year of Brain tumour, his 3rd always knew 3rd would be his last and begged me to help him to end it with dignity, awful and something that will live with me till the day we meet again.

I am all for it and believe in time my mission will be listened to in this country!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ary_ArgyllMan  over a year ago

Argyll

Agree should be an option subject to tight controls and I think would need to be based on a living will while still in sound mental health.

Many problems with this of course including that many/most doctors are against it so who would be willing to administer the drugs?

However I certainly would hope to be able to die with dignity and the present approach does not seem to offer that in many cases.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *eatherWoman  over a year ago

glasgow

I think my son and daughter and i may have to face something like this soon i hope not but the person who is ill has allways said never to let them linger on but when u realise the decision has to be made its hard i my self am all for euthenasia but its so hard to make that decision to let them go

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Totally agree.

If After the appropriate medical investigations the person involved deems it the only option, I think it's an option that should be available. Never easy on those who have to make the decisions but if there was something like a doner card or similar where you could state what you want it would take the burden off family and friends. I would certainly complete it.

Dx

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think my son and daughter and i may have to face something like this soon i hope not but the person who is ill has allways said never to let them linger on but when u realise the decision has to be made its hard i my self am all for euthenasia but its so hard to make that decision to let them go "
xxx

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ustforalaugh1Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

In the last two years i have lost my father and mother to dementia and associated illnesses.

They both ended their days incoherent and staring at walls.unaware what was going on around them or who their family were.

i know for a fact that is NOT how they wanted to end their days, but was helpless to do anything and had to stand back and just watch time and that horrible disease slowly take them.

I can only pray that the law has changed by the time i am of an age where this is a concern for me.

100% agree with an individual's right to male their own decisions and die in a way that they would want.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Depends who is making the choice.

Too easy to say oh yes im all for it but are you also willing to basically kill someone or will you look to doctors to do it for you? If someone does that....intentionally take someone's life, avtively end it and not passively by witholding treatment then it's bound to have an emotional impact on them....surely?

So its more than someones choice to die....its who will kill them?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ustforalaugh1Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Depends who is making the choice.

Too easy to say oh yes im all for it but are you also willing to basically kill someone or will you look to doctors to do it for you? If someone does that....intentionally take someone's life, avtively end it and not passively by witholding treatment then it's bound to have an emotional impact on them....surely?

So its more than someones choice to die....its who will kill them?"

I think it would be incredibly difficult, but for the love of the person concerned, in my case my parents, I'd hope i would have the courage to save their suffering and give them what they want.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think faced with the enormity of what you were actually about to do you may find it would be very difficult to do and to live with thereafter.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ustforalaugh1Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"I think faced with the enormity of what you were actually about to do you may find it would be very difficult to do and to live with thereafter."

no doubt.

I would just need to hope to have the strength.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the last two years i have lost my father and mother to dementia and associated illnesses.

They both ended their days incoherent and staring at walls.unaware what was going on around them or who their family were.

i know for a fact that is NOT how they wanted to end their days, but was helpless to do anything and had to stand back and just watch time and that horrible disease slowly take them.

I can only pray that the law has changed by the time i am of an age where this is a concern for me.

100% agree with an individual's right to male their own decisions and die in a way that they would want.

"

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Awful, see mother everyday in this state of confusion and despair; it is like pain u get from grief but ur precious loved one is still here... every day is a battle for her and us!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman  over a year ago

stourbridge area

My heart goes out to all of you in this thread ..

I watched my 60 year old uncle suffer with parkinsons .. until he passed away at 65 in a care home ..

He had been a soldier .. a law abiding good man who would always help if he could

Then I lost my mum in June .. from the slow progression of dementia .. it was heartbreaking to watch both of them waste away ... you would not let a dog suffer like this .. let alone a person ...its cruel ..

My mum had to be fed pureed food .. and wore a nappy

I cried most days after visiting her .. im not a religious person .. but I prayed she would go to sleep and not wake up ...

The day she died was such a bitter sweet day .. as I didnt have to see her suffer anymore ..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ootlover456Man  over a year ago

Paisley

anyone should have the right to decide when they want their own lives to end. its not the business of the government or the law to determine what one can do with ones own life. and in this I fully support the right to decide hen your own time will be. that being said however I also believe that some may rashly or hastily make such a choice or be bullied or convinced into it by family members not wishing to care for them and that would have to be very closely monitored. id recommend mandatory therapy sessions except in emergency cases just to determine that this is definitely the path the patient wants to take

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree completely with Euthanasia or

assisted death. The easiest and probably most common comparison drawn is that of family pets. If they are suffering and unlikely to recover, are in pain etc, we euthanize them to stop any further suffering.

The unfortunate thing though, is that there are so many grey areas involved. Is the person of sound mind to make the decision, are the incurable of what they're suffering from etc. Next there's the whole issue off whether or not, assisting someone who is unable to end their life should be liable for prosecution.

I fully support the idea, but fear here in the UK, it's something that people will never fully agree on, preventing it from becoming permissible.

P.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I watch my mother in law each day trying to come to terms with dementia.

99.9% of the time she has no clue I'm there.

She was brought up within a really strong fire and brimstone religious family with values she instilled in her kids.

My father in law is an aetheist and has asked for her not to be resuscitated when the time comes and it has tore the family apart. She has no idea what day of the week it is or is able to wipe her own arse nevermind make a call on this.

My best friend in the world lost his mother this morning and again a DNR was in place

Euthanasia........ Schools out

I am a practicing Buddhist so no not my place to end the life of any living thing

However, one school of Buddhist thought believes in ritual seppuku.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman  over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!


"I think faced with the enormity of what you were actually about to do you may find it would be very difficult to do and to live with thereafter."
If I was ever put in that position again my beliefs and opinions would be the same ...could I live with myself seeing how my mum is now ?...YES WITHOUT A DOUBT !!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think faced with the enormity of what you were actually about to do you may find it would be very difficult to do and to live with thereafter.If I was ever put in that position again my beliefs and opinions would be the same ...could I live with myself seeing how my mum is now ?...YES WITHOUT A DOUBT !!"

Difficult to say unless you have actually killed someone, only then would you know how you would feel.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

  

By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge

I applaud the clinics abroad who make this a viable option for those able to make the decision themselves where it becomes difficult is those who can no longer decide themselves its an area that needs serious consideration

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

» Add a new message to this topic

0.0468

0