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By *nny OP Man
over a year ago
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I mentioned the original story some time ago.
Here's the court outcome.
"A BONDAGE fan was fined £500 yesterday after a horrified family caught him spanking another man in a country lane in broad daylight.
*************, 51, wore a studded leather collar to dish out the beating. His friend was in a dress and blonde wig.
Astonished parents Allan Pagan and Natalie Fairhurst caught the pair in the act while out walking with their two-year-old daughter near their home in Waterbeck, Dumfriesshire, in October.
They took down the car number as he fled with his partner and police used the registration to find him."
More at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bondage-perv-smacked-fine-after-4786980
Let's be careful out there.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its not so much that the guy has been fined for being a fan of bondage, he's been fined for committing an "indecent act" in a public place in the middle of the day witnessed by a family. Absolutely no sympathy as it breaks the golden rule of swinging....discretion! |
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It's a pretty intolerant person that doesn't just smile and jog on, rather than involving the polis.
The nasty, controlling, sanctimonious and mean spirit of John Knox lives on.
(in Kenny MacAskill and Herr Haus - one down, one to go) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's a pretty intolerant person that doesn't just smile and jog on, rather than involving the polis.
The nasty, controlling, sanctimonious and mean spirit of John Knox lives on.
(in Kenny MacAskill and Herr Haus - one down, one to go)"
It's a pretty ignorant couple who perform what they were doing in broad daylight in a public lane. 'Cast them oot a' say!' (To quote knox) |
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A child will see worse than that on the TV news.
If it was a quiet country lane, they may have hoped they were safe from discovery - but it's hardly a flogging offence.
It reminds me of the nonsensical persecution of the naked rambler.
Live and let live. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A child will see worse than that on the TV news.
If it was a quiet country lane, they may have hoped they were safe from discovery - but it's hardly a flogging offence.
It reminds me of the nonsensical persecution of the naked rambler.
Live and let live."
Sorry not where children are concerned.
They should ALWAYS be put first and their, physical, emotional and mental health and safety.
As Bo said do as you will thou it harm non (into a light spanking myself) but for goodness sake engage your bloody brain first, kids should not be exposed to that.
No excuses or exceptions!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A child will see worse than that on the TV news.
If it was a quiet country lane, they may have hoped they were safe from discovery - but it's hardly a flogging offence.
It reminds me of the nonsensical persecution of the naked rambler.
Live and let live.
Sorry not where children are concerned.
They should ALWAYS be put first and their, physical, emotional and mental health and safety.
As Bo said do as you will thou it harm non (into a light spanking myself) but for goodness sake engage your bloody brain first, kids should not be exposed to that.
No excuses or exceptions!
Dx"
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What is more traumatic for a child, if indeed at all traumatic - seeing one adult spanking another (and young kids see men drag up for pantomime, after all) - or witnessing the parents having a full-blown row?
I'd be interested to know what harm is supposed to have been caused. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is more traumatic for a child, if indeed at all traumatic - seeing one adult spanking another (and young kids see men drag up for pantomime, after all) - or witnessing the parents having a full-blown row?
I'd be interested to know what harm is supposed to have been caused."
Don't want to argue I'll agree to disagree, you are entitled to your opinion, as a mother I will always think of the impact of anything on my own and other children first and foremost.
In your scenario above it's the child's parents who take the decision to expose their own children to an argument, in the real life case the parents had no say in what the children were exposed to.
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"What is more traumatic for a child, if indeed at all traumatic - seeing one adult spanking another (and young kids see men drag up for pantomime, after all) - or witnessing the parents having a full-blown row?
I'd be interested to know what harm is supposed to have been caused."
Kinda stretching your comparisons a wee bit there are you not!
If the child was two then although a confusing sight and not exactly understanding of the sight they were seeing...they still shouldn't have seen it! And for that matter neither should the parents have...i think there's a basic concept here that you're failing to grasp. |
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Sorry, Sensual, but what you're displaying is the modern attitude that accompanies the 'I say what I like, don't like it :tough.' mentality. The one that sees people swearing like Troopers wherever they happen to be and so on.
Some things are not okay to say and do in front of other people. Freedom of expression did not come with freedom to offend. Consideration for the feelings of those around us is how we make this planet a more tolerable place to live. It used to be called common courtesy but these days common seems to be the last thing it is. |
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"Sorry, Sensual, but what you're displaying is the modern attitude that accompanies the 'I say what I like, don't like it :tough.' mentality. The one that sees people swearing like Troopers wherever they happen to be and so on.
Some things are not okay to say and do in front of other people. Freedom of expression did not come with freedom to offend. Consideration for the feelings of those around us is how we make this planet a more tolerable place to live. It used to be called common courtesy but these days common seems to be the last thing it is. "
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"Sorry, Sensual, but what you're displaying is the modern attitude that accompanies the 'I say what I like, don't like it :tough.' mentality. The one that sees people swearing like Troopers wherever they happen to be and so on. "
Sorry, but your analogy is stretching logic and credibility.... a leap way too far.
Their behaviour may be indiscrete, reckless and unwise, but it should not form the basis of a prosecution. Coimpletely over the top reaction.
Should we ask the law to get involved every time we feel offended?
The intervention of the law should be applied with a light touch and no less discretion than this pair should have exercised in their choice of venue.
No harm, no "crime". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Think you better go read the law sexual acts in public places is a crime! 
Is spanking a sexual crime now?"
Read up on the law also if it's witnessed by anyone !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry, Sensual, but what you're displaying is the modern attitude that accompanies the 'I say what I like, don't like it :tough.' mentality. The one that sees people swearing like Troopers wherever they happen to be and so on.
Some things are not okay to say and do in front of other people. Freedom of expression did not come with freedom to offend. Consideration for the feelings of those around us is how we make this planet a more tolerable place to live. It used to be called common courtesy but these days common seems to be the last thing it is. "
Excellently put |
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Political correctness is the oppression of our intellectual movement so no one says anything anymore just in case anyone else get’s offended. What happens if you say that and someone gets offended? Well they can be offended, can’t they? What’s wrong with being offended? When did stick and stones may break my bones stop being relevant? Isn’t that what you teach children? He called me an idiot! Don’t worry about it, he’s a dick.
Now you have adults going “I was offended, I was offended and I have rights!” Well so what, be offended, nothing happened. You’re an adult, grow up, and deal with it. I was offended! Well, I don’t care! Nothing happens when you’re offended. “I went to the comedy show and the comedian said something about the lord, and I was offended, and when I woke up in the morning, I had leprosy."
Nothing Happens. “I want to live in a democracy but I never want to be offended again.” Well you’re an idiot.
How do you make a law about offending people? How do you make it an offense to offend people? Being offended is subjective. It has everything to do with you as an individual or a collective, or a group or a society or a community. Your moral conditioning, your religious beliefs. What offends me may not offend you. And you want to make laws about this? I’m offended when I see boy bands for god sake.
It’s a valid offense, I’m offended. They’re cooperate shills, posing as musicians to further a modeling career and frankly I’m disgusted.
- Steve Hughes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just had to go back there and read the thread about most unusual place you've had sex. Lots of places mentioned were fairly public, never seen any posts from anyone saying how outrageous it was and that the police should have been called. |
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"Political correctness is the oppression of our intellectual movement so no one says anything anymore just in case anyone else get’s offended. What happens if you say that and someone gets offended? Well they can be offended, can’t they? What’s wrong with being offended? When did stick and stones may break my bones stop being relevant? Isn’t that what you teach children? He called me an idiot! Don’t worry about it, he’s a dick.
Now you have adults going “I was offended, I was offended and I have rights!” Well so what, be offended, nothing happened. You’re an adult, grow up, and deal with it. I was offended! Well, I don’t care! Nothing happens when you’re offended. “I went to the comedy show and the comedian said something about the lord, and I was offended, and when I woke up in the morning, I had leprosy."
Nothing Happens. “I want to live in a democracy but I never want to be offended again.” Well you’re an idiot.
How do you make a law about offending people? How do you make it an offense to offend people? Being offended is subjective. It has everything to do with you as an individual or a collective, or a group or a society or a community. Your moral conditioning, your religious beliefs. What offends me may not offend you. And you want to make laws about this? I’m offended when I see boy bands for god sake.
It’s a valid offense, I’m offended. They’re cooperate shills, posing as musicians to further a modeling career and frankly I’m disgusted.
- Steve Hughes"
Leaping to being offended, particularly on behalf of others, seems to have become a national obsession, as is wrapping children in cotton wool. And this thread seems to have become a mumsnet bearpit.
Political correctness is the enemy of free speech and it is an insidious disease. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just had to go back there and read the thread about most unusual place you've had sex. Lots of places mentioned were fairly public, never seen any posts from anyone saying how outrageous it was and that the police should have been called. "
The difference is getting not to get caught. I world imagine that avoiding even trying it with children in the vicinity was avoided. Also, if any of us had you wouldn't hear us bleating about how it was a breach of our civil liberties when we got done for it.  At which point does Sensual's belief that indulging in sexual activity wherever and whenever you want go from harmless fun to indecent exposure? Society has rules for a reason don't like them? Either get enough people to agree with you to get the law changed or go live somewhere else. |
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