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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hooray!

Lots more oil under the sea!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As a,member of the 55% it was never about oil for me,

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Its great, we can use it to help pay for the rail link - everyone's a winner!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As a,member of the 55% it was never about oil for me,"

hear hear

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Its great news that the politicians were wrong and there's loads left - hooray!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lloyd also cutting jobs.

Was that not only supposed to happen with a yes vote??????

Predictable shite.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is the 45% a reference to how much of the next decade the yes lot will whinge about a democratic result decided by the voters of Scotland that wasn't the result yes wanted

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By *i_garyMan  over a year ago

glasgow

Already covered in this thread:

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/322764

Oil revenues are dropping drastically.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is the 45% a reference to how much of the next decade the yes lot will whinge about a democratic result decided by the voters of Scotland that wasn't the result yes wanted "

Hooray!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sick to the back teeth hearing about it tbh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I know a lot of folk who voted both yes and no. Not one of them took the amount of oil which is there or not there into account in their choice.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I know a lot of folk who voted both yes and no. Not one of them took the amount of oil which is there or not there into account in their choice."

...so its good either way that there's loads, as its good for the economy, jobs in Aberdeen etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lloyd also cutting jobs.

Was that not only supposed to happen with a yes vote??????

Predictable shite. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing)."

But the 55% have already got what they wanted.

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"I know a lot of folk who voted both yes and no. Not one of them took the amount of oil which is there or not there into account in their choice."

This is one of the real annoyances about the glorious 45%, the way they seem to have acquired the 2nd sight, the ability to know why NOs voted as they did.

Oil revenue didn't influence my vote, although I do think it's utter folly to depend on it as much as AS seems to do. Nor did the 'vow' by Cameron and Co., nor Gordon Brown's efforts either.

I know this will probably be an alien concept to many of the YES mob, but I made up my own mind as to how I would vote. Although this was ably assisted by AS's total inability to answer the important questions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing).

But the 55% have already got what they wanted."

exactly, they have NOTHING, empty life & empty assets

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow


"You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing).

But the 55% have already got what they wanted.

exactly, they have NOTHING, empty life & empty assets"

Someone's angry

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing).

But the 55% have already got what they wanted.

exactly, they have NOTHING, empty life & empty assets"

I'm sure all those people will be thankful for your insight into knowing they all have empty lives and if you're referring to oil as an asset, well, they still have it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing).

But the 55% have already got what they wanted.

exactly, they have NOTHING, empty life & empty assets"

Perfectly happy with our life and assets thank you. But thanks for your concern (Mr)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Still have my well paid job,,,which by the way I wouldn't have with a yes vote so I ecstatic and have all I need and want.but thanks for your concern

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By *rsKandMrJCouple  over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire ish

Under the sea puts me in mind of the little mermaid film hah

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sick to the back teeth hearing about it tbh "

Me too, quite frankly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You reap what you sow, the 55% will get what the deserve (nothing).

But the 55% have already got what they wanted.

exactly, they have NOTHING, empty life & empty assets"

Bitter sad git.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

Even if there had been no other benefits from Better Together's stunning referendum victory, getting rid of Eck would have been sufficient.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have to say I was a no voter but I think Alex Salmond is a very good politician. I don't agree with independence and a lot of the SNP policies but nobody can deny Salmonds oratory and political skills. The Yes campaign was far better than the No campaign but some people on both sides need to try and put what's happened behind them. Before the referendum everyone was saying win or lose we'll work with the other side to make a better Scotland/UK but now that it's over, having read a lot of the posts in the forums that's far from the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oil had nothing to do with me voting yes it's not like we the common people ever get a penny of it, it belongs to the goverment & oil company's not us! I voted yes cos I wanted to be able to say I'm scottish not British & my brother is in Iraq fighting a war that he doesn't want to fight in but has to & that's why he & alot of other scottish soldiers voted yes, so can both sides just give it a rest it's the past it's over get a life & realise this is a sex site go on Facebook to talk about this from now on.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan  over a year ago

Argyll

Doesn't matter where it comes from, burning oil is contributing to climate change - we need to get off the oil wagon one way or another

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Still have my well paid job,,,which by the way I wouldn't have with a yes vote so I ecstatic and have all I need and want.but thanks for your concern "

Do you work for Lloyds Sir?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn't matter where it comes from, burning oil is contributing to climate change - we need to get off the oil wagon one way or another"
by the time the climate is actually effected in a big enough way that not only a small amount of people care about it my great great great great great great grandchildren will be getting buried, & if am wrong about that then am right about this the world ain't gonae go tits up in my life time with global warming so I don't give a rats arse al be deed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No one would have lost jobs & company's wouldn't have shut down the Bank of England were always going to support us if we went independant they admitted it A week after the refferendum, PLEASE CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS IT'S A SITE FOR SEX NOT POLITICS

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one would have lost jobs & company's wouldn't have shut down the Bank of England were always going to support us if we went independant they admitted it A week after the refferendum, PLEASE CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS IT'S A SITE FOR SEX NOT POLITICS"

Says he who has posted three times in the last wee while

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge


"Oil had nothing to do with me voting yes it's not like we the common people ever get a penny of it, it belongs to the goverment & oil company's not us! I voted yes cos I wanted to be able to say I'm scottish not British & my brother is in Iraq fighting a war that he doesn't want to fight it but has to & that's why he & alot of other scottish soldiers voted yes, so can both sides just give it a rest it's the past it's over get a life & realise this is a sex site go on Facebook to talk about this from now on."
by the time the climate is actually effected in a big enough way that not only a small amount of people care about it my great great great great great great grandchildren will be getting buried, & if am wrong about that then am right about this the world ain't gonae go tits up in my life time with global warming so I don't give a rats arse al be deed your brother decided to join the army so fighting in a CONFLICT was part and parcel of the deal and unless there has been a shift in politics soldiers dont vote as it shows an affiliation to a cause your brother is doing a good and right job if we the people of the uk feel it is wrong to be in others buisness tell the politicians they serve us thats the bit folk forget.as for use facebook lol this is a swingers site not a drop yer skag nastys n have at it site people enjoy debate and talk not just sexual skull duggery 24/7 and to care not a jot about the upcoming generations future is quite selfish the tipping point for all we know could be close that is why we should look after our planet now and not im alright jack

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

the chickens and sheep won and probably always will.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Alex is CEO of fabswingers and Nicola is strategic development director - for this reason I delete me account! ... even although he is a big dick and she is a fanny... still not interested!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At least we have a new insult for everyone to use;

If you want to insult someone you simply call them a "NO Voter" there is no worse insult than this.

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"At least we have a new insult for everyone to use;

If you want to insult someone you simply call them a "NO Voter" there is no worse insult than this."

What a sad disillusioned soul!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame

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By *ustcutieWoman  over a year ago

edinburgh


"Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame"

I've still no shame

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame

I've still no shame "

+1

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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"At least we have a new insult for everyone to use;

If you want to insult someone you simply call them a "NO Voter" there is no worse insult than this."

I voted No and before the election and since, I have not said 1 disingenuous comment about people who voted Yes. They voted as they saw fit and I respect that.

I feel no shame, nor will I ever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have to say I was a no voter but I think Alex Salmond is a very good politician. I don't agree with independence and a lot of the SNP policies but nobody can deny Salmonds oratory and political skills. The Yes campaign was far better than the No campaign but some people on both sides need to try and put what's happened behind them. Before the referendum everyone was saying win or lose we'll work with the other side to make a better Scotland/UK but now that it's over, having read a lot of the posts in the forums that's far from the truth."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At least we have a new insult for everyone to use;

If you want to insult someone you simply call them a "NO Voter" there is no worse insult than this."

seriously you should get over it we lost and should be looking towards the general election and try get many snp mps voted in ,your not doing yourself or any other yes voters any favours by trying to insult ppl for voting no.

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame

I've still no shame "

none here either!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Indeed. Thumbs up for Scotland and the U.K.

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"At least we have a new insult for everyone to use;

If you want to insult someone you simply call them a "NO Voter" there is no worse insult than this.

seriously you should get over it we lost and should be looking towards the general election and try get many snp mps voted in ,your not doing yourself or any other yes voters any favours by trying to insult ppl for voting no."

as already said, some real sad souls amongst the YES voters,

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By *abrina59TV/TS  over a year ago

moved to cuckold land

If you wish to blame anyone for the failure of the yes campaign then you need to blame those who led the campsign and FAILED to convince more than 45% of voters that independence was the best option

Take your anger out on them

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"If you wish to blame anyone for the failure of the yes campaign then you need to blame those who led the campsign and FAILED to convince more than 45% of voters that independence was the best option

Take your anger out on them"

but sadly, they can't see what's right under their noses.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Better together didn't win the referendum, AS and the rest of the YesNP completely and utterly scored an own goal and threw it away!

They had two years to convince the whole country independence was the way forward for Scotland and instead of being up front and honest about a number of key issues which they were told time and time again were important to a lot of people, they simply resorted to trying to stick one on Westminster at every available opportunity and thought the country would get behind that. But they didn't.

I (S) voted No and I did so by post before any offer of further powers. It wasn't to do with oil but the Nats were right about one thing, I was scared. Scared the YesNP were sleeping walking the country into a complete financial disaster.

During the last few weeks of the election, Yes said the only way to ensure the NHS wasn't privatised was to vote Yes. A few weeks later following the No win, John Swinney said 'under this government, Scotland's NHS is properly funded and will be kept in public hands'. Good, glad they weren't lying about that during the referendum then. Oh, wait...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The only good think that happened in the referendum was Eck playing with Nicki on way back to SP building ; better together for sure... anyone who thinks different do not understand the facts!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Even if there had been no other benefits from Better Together's stunning referendum victory, getting rid of Eck would have been sufficient. "

My very good friend was reading this and although I don't like Eck, he raised a good point: Eck has lasted longer than 3/4 Labour Leaders in his term as FM and so maybe Labour's problems going beyond leadership. With poor Johann Lamont resigning in morning, it is ironic that if she had voted yes her problems would have all been solved

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Johann Lamont was a pure waste of space and that is why she did not get any support from the UK labour party and stood down.

She is an extreamly poor speaker for a politician and as much use for Scotland as Ruth davidson is (which is no use).

So with Lamont gone and Ian Price sacked who will be stepping in and does anyone really care as thousands of traditional labour supporters have deserted the party and joined the SNP.

Like it or lump it SNP works for Scotland and its people, even the uneducated no voters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Was reading the "what's your favourite Country" thread, on come people saying Scotland?

Some people that actually live here don't seem to realise Scotland is just a province/part of the United Kingdom just like any other part, not actually a country.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You make a lot of sense - totally agree!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I very much believe we are better together my Union Jack Bikini would have been ruined

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As a,member of the 55% it was never about oil for me,"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I very much believe we are better together my Union Jack Bikini would have been ruined "

Are you a boat? Because unless you are it's not a Union Jack.

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By *b430Man  over a year ago

Tayside


"I very much believe we are better together my Union Jack Bikini would have been ruined

Are you a boat? Because unless you are it's not a Union Jack. "

That's what a lot of people think but in 1908 Parliament approved using the name "Union Jack" for the national flag wherever it was used.

PS - Who cares what it is called anyway when it is being flown on such a nice pair!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

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sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I very much believe we are better together my Union Jack Bikini would have been ruined

Are you a boat? Because unless you are it's not a Union Jack.

That's what a lot of people think but in 1908 Parliament approved using the name "Union Jack" for the national flag wherever it was used.

PS - Who cares what it is called anyway when it is being flown on such a nice pair! "

thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x"

That's pretty much how I feel about it now. Was just curious to hear a no voters thoughts/opinion.

Jason

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

"

no voter here and I still identify with our national anthem im guessing here but I think there are many no voters like me who want an independant country but not at any cost had this happened yrs ago before england closed scotland down and moved most industry and commerce south thats why ive always been in favour of a devo max way slowly regain our industry before full independance

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x"

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow

Something which has really narked me since the referendum, is the way YES voters seem to think they know the thought processes of NO voters.

One regular asumption is that all NO voters are against independence. Well I for one am not, and I don't believe I'm unique. The simple difference between YES voters and pro-independence NO voters, is we voted with our heads rather than our hearts. But it makes us no less patriotic.

As I've said before, AS and his cohorts lost the vote. Frustrated YES voters should be taking their anger and frustration out on them, they totally failed to convince sufficient voters that independence is currently a viable option.

And last but not least, just what is the point of gaining independence from London, and then being 100% ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. AS regularly cites Norway as an example of how an independent Scotland could be. An independent Scotland could never be a Norway, as the Norwegians have regularly voted to remain outside of the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Something which has really narked me since the referendum, is the way YES voters seem to think they know the thought processes of NO voters.

One regular asumption is that all NO voters are against independence. Well I for one am not, and I don't believe I'm unique. The simple difference between YES voters and pro-independence NO voters, is we voted with our heads rather than our hearts. But it makes us no less patriotic.

As I've said before, AS and his cohorts lost the vote. Frustrated YES voters should be taking their anger and frustration out on them, they totally failed to convince sufficient voters that independence is currently a viable option.

And last but not least, just what is the point of gaining independence from London, and then being 100% ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. AS regularly cites Norway as an example of how an independent Scotland could be. An independent Scotland could never be a Norway, as the Norwegians have regularly voted to remain outside of the EU.

"

I certainly don't suggest I know the thought process of no voters, but then I'm not saying any one is un patriotic.

My question about the national anthem, was more on how people feel about it and is it relevant or appropriate with modern Scottish opinion/beliefs.

So the UK stays together and we're in the EU, so surely we're currently still ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels if that's your opinion, mind you if we vote to leave or ever get to vote on the subject that could change.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well, we have to make the most of what we have and get on with it.

We're in the U.K., so lets leave the E.U.

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


" So the UK stays together and we're in the EU, so surely we're currently still ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels if that's your opinion, mind you if we vote to leave or ever get to vote on the subject that could change."

Exactly!

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Well, we have to make the most of what we have and get on with it.

We're in the U.K., so lets leave the E.U. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame"

I've not an ounce of shame thank you very much.

I voted no proudly, confidently and knowledgeably.

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By *rjandmrskCouple  over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire


"Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame

I've not an ounce of shame thank you very much.

I voted no proudly, confidently and knowledgeably."

So did we are both proud of it also

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

no voter here and I still identify with our national anthem im guessing here but I think there are many no voters like me who want an independant country but not at any cost had this happened yrs ago before england closed scotland down and moved most industry and commerce south thats why ive always been in favour of a devo max way slowly regain our industry before full independance"

Thanks for your reply, thought more might give their thoughts/opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x"

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Simply put, every NO Voter has removed the right to sing this song

They will probably sleep well at night with no conscience but then that is exactly what you would expect, Countries fight wars for independence as did Scotland many years ago, right through history Scotland has sadly been split, the courageous fighting for independence and then "the others" who can be led by empty promises, greed and misguidance It truly saddens me that we have so many NO voters amongst us in Scotland, people who lack ability and strength to stand it alone

that's my opinion, or part of it, other _iews cannot be written

But it is true; We (yes voters) can still rise now and be a nation again

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By *rjandmrskCouple  over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x

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Simply put, every NO Voter has removed the right to sing this song

They will probably sleep well at night with no conscience but then that is exactly what you would expect, Countries fight wars for independence as did Scotland many years ago, right through history Scotland has sadly been split, the courageous fighting for independence and then "the others" who can be led by empty promises, greed and misguidance It truly saddens me that we have so many NO voters amongst us in Scotland, people who lack ability and strength to stand it alone

that's my opinion, or part of it, other _iews cannot be written

But it is true; We (yes voters) can still rise now and be a nation again"

Hope you feel better, personally, bored stiff by your continual sniping. In fact, actually feel sorry for you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x

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Simply put, every NO Voter has removed the right to sing this song

They will probably sleep well at night with no conscience but then that is exactly what you would expect, Countries fight wars for independence as did Scotland many years ago, right through history Scotland has sadly been split, the courageous fighting for independence and then "the others" who can be led by empty promises, greed and misguidance It truly saddens me that we have so many NO voters amongst us in Scotland, people who lack ability and strength to stand it alone

that's my opinion, or part of it, other _iews cannot be written

But it is true; We (yes voters) can still rise now and be a nation again

Hope you feel better, personally, bored stiff by your continual sniping. In fact, actually feel sorry for you. "

I'm actually surprised that nobody else has come on to disagree with what he said.

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By *wiftieeMan  over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x

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Simply put, every NO Voter has removed the right to sing this song

They will probably sleep well at night with no conscience but then that is exactly what you would expect, Countries fight wars for independence as did Scotland many years ago, right through history Scotland has sadly been split, the courageous fighting for independence and then "the others" who can be led by empty promises, greed and misguidance It truly saddens me that we have so many NO voters amongst us in Scotland, people who lack ability and strength to stand it alone

that's my opinion, or part of it, other _iews cannot be written

But it is true; We (yes voters) can still rise now and be a nation again

Hope you feel better, personally, bored stiff by your continual sniping. In fact, actually feel sorry for you.

I'm actually surprised that nobody else has come on to disagree with what he said. "

It's a waste of time, he's so brainwashed and blinkered.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

And again: silence is the most perfect expression of scorn.

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By *ndy glwMan  over a year ago

glasgow

Good to know that added to the divide the west of scotland already has due to other matters we can now add the fact that if you voted no then you should also I be ostracised and not be fit to call yourself scottish

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Stop trying to justify yourselves, you won the vote now live with the consequences and shame

I've not an ounce of shame thank you very much.

I voted no proudly, confidently and knowledgeably."

Totally done with it now. Its not a debate any more just attacks and insults to no voters with no appreciation of our rights under the democratic process.

With regard to Flower of Scotland....I never felt it to be a suitable anthem anyway. Backward looking and negative. Something celebrating our countrys positivity and grandeur would be preferable to me ....although I love the song itself.

Ms McGinty signing out re independence..... but standing by her decision.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

Roy Williamson will be turning in his grave at the thought that his song has become a symbol of little more than outright hatred.

That said, the way it's sung now bears little resemblance to the way he and Ronnie sang it in the Waverley Bar all those years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Roy Williamson will be turning in his grave at the thought that his song has become a symbol of little more than outright hatred.

That said, the way it's sung now bears little resemblance to the way he and Ronnie sang it in the Waverley Bar all those years ago."

Heard them sing it live many times Onny and agree entirely. It saddens me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe god save the queen would more appropriate for proud unionist Scotland? Suppose it's technically our country's anthem anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Roy Williamson will be turning in his grave at the thought that his song has become a symbol of little more than outright hatred.

That said, the way it's sung now bears little resemblance to the way he and Ronnie sang it in the Waverley Bar all those years ago."

Have the words been changed?

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x

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Simply put, every NO Voter has removed the right to sing this song

They will probably sleep well at night with no conscience but then that is exactly what you would expect, Countries fight wars for independence as did Scotland many years ago, right through history Scotland has sadly been split, the courageous fighting for independence and then "the others" who can be led by empty promises, greed and misguidance It truly saddens me that we have so many NO voters amongst us in Scotland, people who lack ability and strength to stand it alone

that's my opinion, or part of it, other _iews cannot be written

But it is true; We (yes voters) can still rise now and be a nation again

Hope you feel better, personally, bored stiff by your continual sniping. In fact, actually feel sorry for you.

I'm actually surprised that nobody else has come on to disagree with what he said. "

some are beyond comprehension and cant see past the braveheart subtitles sad but true

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Roy Williamson will be turning in his grave at the thought that his song has become a symbol of little more than outright hatred.

That said, the way it's sung now bears little resemblance to the way he and Ronnie sang it in the Waverley Bar all those years ago.

Have the words been changed?"

The WAY it's sung, not the lyrics.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Roy Williamson will be turning in his grave at the thought that his song has become a symbol of little more than outright hatred.

That said, the way it's sung now bears little resemblance to the way he and Ronnie sang it in the Waverley Bar all those years ago.

Have the words been changed?

The WAY it's sung, not the lyrics."

Ah ok so the WORDS are the same, just thought I would check.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could someone answer this that voted no, I'm curious if your hear/read "Flower of Scotland", how do you feel, like it, hate it, don't care, change it?

I personally now find it a bit....well more than a bit embarrassing singing and holding up with pride people that died for Scotland's independence. Now we know the majority of Scotland's people don't want that same independence.

Did ask something similar to this before but only a yes voter really replied if I recall.

sorry I was a yes voter to but at the recent Scotland game I honestly had tears in my eyes and had to switch it over until it was finished

That song gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it ... Now ... It just saddens me

Auds x

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Simply put, every NO Voter has removed the right to sing this song

They will probably sleep well at night with no conscience but then that is exactly what you would expect, Countries fight wars for independence as did Scotland many years ago, right through history Scotland has sadly been split, the courageous fighting for independence and then "the others" who can be led by empty promises, greed and misguidance It truly saddens me that we have so many NO voters amongst us in Scotland, people who lack ability and strength to stand it alone

that's my opinion, or part of it, other _iews cannot be written

But it is true; We (yes voters) can still rise now and be a nation again

Hope you feel better, personally, bored stiff by your continual sniping. In fact, actually feel sorry for you.

I'm actually surprised that nobody else has come on to disagree with what he said. some are beyond comprehension and cant see past the braveheart subtitles sad but true"

The last fart of a dying corpse I believe, they lost and cannot and will not ever get over it ! I don't feel sorry for anyone I am just indifferent to it now and can move on , unlike some !!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Better together my baws

Second classed citizen in a corrupt union

Shit on the English shoes !

The scotch !

There educated to suppress us !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But a nation people love/loved and feel passionately about, failing to gain it's independence and become a country. Is that something minor that people should just get over?

Suppose it's not a big issue for some people.

Not many other country's/nations in the world have this out look.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks."

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks."

I did notice that, thanks. But I don't think people should "get over it", as if it's missing out on something minor.

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge

Picking the scars by name calling and calling into question peoples _iews and reasons serves no-one if anything the yes voters calling into question peoples patriotism or lack of clear vision or no voters calling knuckle dragging neaderthals yes voter serves no one it keeps the devision alive to those wanting to change how our country is get in touch with your party tell them what is required for the staunch no voters tell your party what you want and how you envisage a stronger union but this nonsense serves no-one

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?"

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks."

come on now Onny, even Johann has seen the light and joined the 45 (p45 in her case)

or then again, maybe she has just realised that she is not genetically programmed to make political decisions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless."

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no ."

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact."

You hide the insults so well, very clever lol. How do you do that?

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact.

You hide the insults so well, very clever lol. How do you do that? "

Easy. I stick to facts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact.

You hide the insults so well, very clever lol. How do you do that?

Easy. I stick to facts."

Ah ok, suppose I should be wary what I reply to, next thing I will be banned.

How is Roy anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact."

ok _nny but you should remember most losers strive to get better until they win .

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact.

ok _nny but you should remember most losers strive to get better until they win ."

They do indeed strive to improve yet seldom win.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The nation was asked and the nation said No Thanks.

so because we lost _nny do u think we should just give up ?

What the losers do is entirely up to them but staying in denial, as many are, is pointless.

im not in denial i have accepted the result and moved on but wont be giving up,i wont bite to ur loser comment as u have just shown that you are as bad as some yes voter who are insulting ppl for voting no .

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact.

ok _nny but you should remember most losers strive to get better until they win .

They do indeed strive to improve yet seldom win."

think we should agree to disagree as you have your veiws and i have mine.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


".....

Loser isn't an insult. It's a fact.

ok _nny but you should remember most losers strive to get better until they win .

They do indeed strive to improve yet seldom win.

think we should agree to disagree as you have your veiws and i have mine."

I have my _iews and you have the SNP's _iews.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I also vote SNP as do the majority of Scotland

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But I am open to suggestions if you can persuade me otherwise

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge


"I also vote SNP as do the majority of Scotland"
you do realise that the majority turned the snp down so where do you get the majority vote for them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I also vote SNP as do the majority of Scotlandyou do realise that the majority turned the snp down so where do you get the majority vote for them "

I simply do not understand your reasoning

Tell me who is in Power right now at the Scottish Parliament

oh and you never did say if you have made your mind up to take the job

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge

Lol those comesy classes going well then in answer to your question the majority of those who voted on local powers going to the snp not the majority of scotland as was proven at the referendum

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lol those comesy classes going well then in answer to your question the majority of those who voted on local powers going to the snp not the majority of scotland as was proven at the referendum "

you must admit 1.6 million is exceptionally good considering the whole world was against us

You know & I know that the SNP will be voted back in next year and realistically they have the good of Scotland at their heart, unlike any other party.

It took every other party, the BBC, Sky News, all press and everyone else scheming together to trick the undecided.

So with a no vote and everything being so much better in Scotland now??? then why are you choosing to bail ship and head off work overseas; I thought things were all nice and rosy for you now in the land of better together.

if you want a direct reply from me on anything further please PM me as I will have no further comments here; as it seems many are being banned for placing their point of _iew

this is the last I will say in this on this thread. feel free to PM me direct.

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By *ola cubesMan  over a year ago

coatbridge


"Lol those comesy classes going well then in answer to your question the majority of those who voted on local powers going to the snp not the majority of scotland as was proven at the referendum

you must admit 1.6 million is exceptionally good considering the whole world was against us

You know & I know that the SNP will be voted back in next year and realistically they have the good of Scotland at their heart, unlike any other party.

It took every other party, the BBC, Sky News, all press and everyone else scheming together to trick the undecided.

So with a no vote and everything being so much better in Scotland now??? then why are you choosing to bail ship and head off work overseas; I thought things were all nice and rosy for you now in the land of better together.

if you want a direct reply from me on anything further please PM me as I will have no further comments here; as it seems many are being banned for placing their point of _iew

this is the last I will say in this on this thread. feel free to PM me direct."

you seem to have me mixed up I aint going no-where and no 1.6 million is no drop in the ocean but it aint a winning margin as for the world ganging up on the yes voters holding them down re attaching the shackles get a grip when the no campaign thought it wasnt close there was no sign of them the airwaves were full of rainbows n butterflys independant rhetoric I want independance not because I hatte the uk but because with proper management I see it as possible but what was placed infront of the people of scotland had to much flight of fancy attached to it so it wasnt a superb no campaign that won the referendum more a flight of fancy yes campaign that lost it this is my opinion and a fair few other no voters I know stop blaming the world and blame your wonderful snp for not giving the people of scotland what they asked for a proper exit stratagy

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"I also vote SNP as do the majority of Scotland"

Count the total votes cast in any election (local council, Holyrood or Westminster) and you'll see most people in Scotland didn't vote SNP.

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