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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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well its the final week and it's all to play for.
I'm still undecided but ill say it here
in love England. ..lovely people lovely culture and a lovely welcoming nature |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Like every country England has its good and bad points, i take no more notice of England and/or English people than i do of any other nation.
I would much rather exert my energy on a positive and aspirational future for Scotland whether that is within the UK or as an independent nation |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country
the British Government "
I think its an English government really though eh |
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"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country
the British Government
I think its an English government really though eh"
Two of the last three prime ministers have been Scottish. |
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"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country "
And that IS the whole point!
Well said!
And I'd say you are correct to say "English' as it is so disconnected from what is actually going on in Scotland. |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
Falkirk |
"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country
And that IS the whole point!
Well said!
And I'd say you are correct to say "English' as it is so disconnected from what is actually going on in Scotland. "
Sorry, it's still the British government I'm afraid 
And besides, England isn't all bad you know......you can get a mean cream tea where my mum lives |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country
the British Government
I think its an English government really though eh"
Really? Here's a wee bit of info for you; only 23% of Scots voted SNP at the last election, so the other 75% didn't vote SNP or couldn't be bothered voting at all.
So much for all the 'not getting the government we voted for' rubbish.  |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
near Glasgow |
"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country
the British Government
I think its an English government really though eh
Two of the last three prime ministers have been Scottish."
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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago
Glasgow ish |
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Really? Here's a wee bit of info for you; only 23% of Scots voted SNP at the last election, so the other 75% didn't vote SNP or couldn't be bothered voting at all.
So much for all the 'not getting the government we voted for' rubbish. "
It's called "democratic deficit".
It affects both scottish and uk elections.
It's due to the apathy at normal elections. The disconnection between the parties and population.
The rise of the "professional" politician, with no real working background.
Student Activist Researcher Campaign Manager spad safe seat/list msp. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Has anyone noticed there seems to be a lot of animosity in some if the threads I don't like going on some of them I don't think it's the place for referendum talk tbh
Anyone agree  |
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By *andemanMan
over a year ago
bedforshire |
"Like every country England has its good and bad points, i take no more notice of England and/or English people than i do of any other nation.
I would much rather exert my energy on a positive and aspirational future for Scotland whether that is within the UK or as an independent nation"
Well said. Sick and tired of all this poor wee Scotland bullied by the big bad English!
Since when did we lose our pride in our people to stand up for ourselves in or out!
I live south of the border and I get no say in the future of my own country. AS paints me and all Scots who dare live outside Scotland as economic opportunist and frankly as trators! Has he no regard for our history as a people. Rant over sorry folks but this gets my goat. Again well said. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The referendum isn't about hating the English
It's about not wanting the English government run our country
the British Government
I think its an English government really though eh
Two of the last three prime ministers have been Scottish."
and?,,,,not elected by Scotland,,so yer point is? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't love England,,oh dear,,im a cunt,im talking politicaly,but why should I,they vote tory,,i fucking hate that party n we never do
there music,,aye some of its great,there art yea again some of its fantastic,,bla,bla.bla
and ive plenty English friends,,some of whom are voting yes
no problem with England just hste the idea of the UK cos its not |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tommy Sheridan was brilliant, his ideological _iews were picked apart with numbers etc and he still stick by his guns.
This is not about political parties, we will deal with that later. Brilliant. |
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The problem is London - it is too large and dominant - north of England, Midlands, west country and other areas of England feel pretty much the same about not having enough local power and decision making. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I lived in England for twelve years and have many English, Irish and welsh friends. I'm voting yes because I want a fairer society and that is not possible under the Westminster elitist system, nothing to so with any of the home nations but to do with getting rid of a corrupt political system and taking control of our own affairs. Once we are independent I wish the very best for the rest of the uk. |
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By *andemanMan
over a year ago
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"I lived in England for twelve years and have many English, Irish and welsh friends. I'm voting yes because I want a fairer society and that is not possible under the Westminster elitist system, nothing to so with any of the home nations but to do with getting rid of a corrupt political system and taking control of our own affairs. Once we are independent I wish the very best for the rest of the uk."
I have no daubt about your motives it's the fact that the rest of the country will not have Scotland support to change. Without it wishing them well is just that a wish nothing more. That's not enough we need to make the real change not run away from the argument. |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
Falkirk |
"Lets not forget its not just England its also Wales and N.Ireland.
Good point and do not forget the Cornish technically English but in fact Celts."
Don't get the Cornish started - they want independence too |
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By *andemanMan
over a year ago
bedforshire |
"Lets not forget its not just England its also Wales and N.Ireland.
Good point and do not forget the Cornish technically English but in fact Celts.
Don't get the Cornish started - they want independence too "
And for the same reasons it's time to unite the Celtic people's for real change not run away from the fight |
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