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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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NO, just because you don't like Alex Salmond. There is much more to this than just one man.
YES, because you think it will be all Braveheart. There is much more to this than shouting "Freedom" , and painting your face.
NO, because you've always voted Laboour/Tory/LibeDem, just because they tell you to. Look at the big picture, and see the vested interests their spokesmen have.
YES, because the other side have nothing but negativity and scaremongering. THINK about all the arguments.
Most of all, don't NOT vote, because this matters to everyone in Scotland. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'll definitely be voting... A big fat NO!  "
This thread is meant to be a balanced look at things. If you want to post Yes or No, use the other posts, and don't hijack this one. |
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we will be voting no .. because all the main parties have said there has to be mass immigration for an independant scotland and we dont have enough jobs for our own people .. theres a load of other reasons as well. |
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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago
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"NO, just because you don't like Alex Salmond. There is much more to this than just one man.
YES, because you think it will be all Braveheart. There is much more to this than shouting "Freedom" , and painting your face.
NO, because you've always voted Laboour/Tory/LibeDem, just because they tell you to. Look at the big picture, and see the vested interests their spokesmen have.
YES, because the other side have nothing but negativity and scaremongering. THINK about all the arguments.
Most of all, don't NOT vote, because this matters to everyone in Scotland."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Voting should be made compulsory. Simples "
nah, as much as i believe that voting is part of our civic responsibility i cant agree with making it compulsory.
thats totalitarian behaviour, and if you low that kind of power/authority then it becomes pervasive.
dangerous territory to allow that, what would be made compulsary next !! |
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"Most of all, don't NOT vote, because this matters to everyone in Scotland."
A failure to vote will be construed as a happy with the status quo.
Had this debate about voting in general before, the only way you can change things is at the ballot box. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"NO, just because you don't like Alex Salmond. There is much more to this than just one man.
YES, because you think it will be all Braveheart. There is much more to this than shouting "Freedom" , and painting your face.
NO, because you've always voted Laboour/Tory/LibeDem, just because they tell you to. Look at the big picture, and see the vested interests their spokesmen have.
YES, because the other side have nothing but negativity and scaremongering. THINK about all the arguments.
Most of all, don't NOT vote, because this matters to everyone in Scotland."
agree with almost everything you say here, i have become more and more frustrated at people who have made a decision on how they will vote based on a variety of reasons
party loyalty
dislike of alex salmond and the snp
dislike of david cameron and the tories
etc etc
i also cant grasp the notion of having decided more than a year before the vote takes place. Theres still a lot of debate and discussion to take place, and i expect that a lot will come out in the wash.
everyone should be encouraged to read, watch and listen to views from both sides and from as many sources as possible.
most of all i believe we all have a duty to ask questions of everyone involved and also those who hang around the sidelines making statements, what are the true interests of each of them.
and in the end i will defend the right of everyone to vote as they in the way they choose and also anyone who comes to the conclusion that they choose not to vote. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll definitely be voting... A big fat NO!
This thread is meant to be a balanced look at things. If you want to post Yes or No, use the other posts, and don't hijack this one."
But my opinion is balanced on the no side so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Others will vote a big fat yes then it'll be nice and balanced for you... Happy? |
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"we will be voting no .. because all the main parties have said there has to be mass immigration for an independant scotland and we dont have enough jobs for our own people .. theres a load of other reasons as well."
All the other parties are saying plenty of negative stuff to make people think its a bad idea, the 1 fact that is true is that no-one knows wether independence is good or bad , 99% of the info is speculation , All you need to think about is wether you wish independence or not, o and forget about alec salmond in regards to the vote either  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Most of all, don't NOT vote, because this matters to everyone in Scotland.
A failure to vote will be construed as a happy with the status quo.
Had this debate about voting in general before, the only way you can change things is at the ballot box. "
its an interesting debate pp
i take the position that voting is both an entitlement and an obligation.
That said i also take the position that telling anyone that they must vote removes their right to choose, and the right to choose is one of the fundamental parts of democracy.
even if they choose not to participate.
basicly encouraging people to take part is the way forward but be prepared to accept that not everyone will do so. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Remember Thomas Muir of Huntershill.
Gerrard, Palmer, Skirving, Thomas Muir and Margarot
These are names that every Scottish man and woman ought to know
When you're called for jury service, when your name is drawn by lot
When you vote in an election when you freely voice your thought
Don't take these things for granted, for dearly were they bought |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"we will be voting no .. because all the main parties have said there has to be mass immigration for an independant scotland and we dont have enough jobs for our own people .. theres a load of other reasons as well."
Scaremongering YES |
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"NO, just because you don't like Alex Salmond. There is much more to this than just one man.
YES, because you think it will be all Braveheart. There is much more to this than shouting "Freedom" , and painting your face.
NO, because you've always voted Laboour/Tory/LibeDem, just because they tell you to. Look at the big picture, and see the vested interests their spokesmen have.
YES, because the other side have nothing but negativity and scaremongering. THINK about all the arguments.
Most of all, don't NOT vote, because this matters to everyone in Scotland.
agree with almost everything you say here, i have become more and more frustrated at people who have made a decision on how they will vote based on a variety of reasons
party loyalty
dislike of alex salmond and the snp
dislike of david cameron and the tories
etc etc
i also cant grasp the notion of having decided more than a year before the vote takes place. Theres still a lot of debate and discussion to take place, and i expect that a lot will come out in the wash.
everyone should be encouraged to read, watch and listen to views from both sides and from as many sources as possible.
most of all i believe we all have a duty to ask questions of everyone involved and also those who hang around the sidelines making statements, what are the true interests of each of them.
and in the end i will defend the right of everyone to vote as they in the way they choose and also anyone who comes to the conclusion that they choose not to vote. "
In total agreement with the op but Id like to explain why Id already made my mind up regarding my vote the minuite that the vote anounced. I believe in Scotland as an indipendant country. I believe that the 1707 union of parliments was the wrong decission. As others have said what will happen after the vote is speculation. I veminitly disagree with current uk goverment policy. I believe that if it were not for the Scottish Parliment things in Scotland would be a lot worse. Especialy in regards to welfare. The current uk goverme t may be a coallision but the policys they are implimenting are not very liberal and are predominantly concervitive (sp). I believe if Scotland wishes to retain any incling of social justice we will need to be indipendant.
I also believe that the Torys are being two faced. Mr Cameron has admitted that if his party were to be ellected in the next uk general ellection then they would hold a refferendum on the U.K. remaining as part of the european union. If that vote was in favour of pulling out he will abide by it. This implies that it is ok for the U.K. to reject policy making from outwith its borders and not be part of a bigger union of countries, but not for Scotland to want the same. |
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