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"Somebody needs to say it so.... .... smell the glove " pmsl | |||
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"Youll need it yer gaunnae get humped(and its not from a blue nose i just dont like neil lennon)" Neil Lennon isnae playin | |||
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"Youll need it yer gaunnae get humped(and its not from a blue nose i just dont like neil lennon)" NOBODY likes Neil Lennon. He's just that sort of person. Local bookies reckon Celtic 14-1. Gotta be worth a tenner. | |||
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"Youll need it yer gaunnae get humped(and its not from a blue nose i just dont like neil lennon) NOBODY likes Neil Lennon. He's just that sort of person. Local bookies reckon Celtic 14-1. Gotta be worth a tenner." think a lot of ppl like neil,good Luck celtic | |||
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"Youll need it yer gaunnae get humped(and its not from a blue nose i just dont like neil lennon) NOBODY likes Neil Lennon. He's just that sort of person. Local bookies reckon Celtic 14-1. Gotta be worth a tenner." think a lot of ppl like neil,good Luck celtic | |||
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"Youll need it yer gaunnae get humped(and its not from a blue nose i just dont like neil lennon)" You'll need it yer gauuna get pumped ( and this from a bluenose) | |||
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"Only team from Scotland still in Europe...flying the flag...so good luck...Amsterdam is full of Celtic fans...wonder if their wives know what they are getting up to... " eating cake | |||
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"Only team from Scotland still in Europe...flying the flag...so good luck...Amsterdam is full of Celtic fans...wonder if their wives know what they are getting up to... eating cake " you think so...methinks not... | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt ." | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt ." unfortunate to see this but im pretty sure there is some dutch mums who can say the same | |||
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"Ajax fans are well known trouble makers. Celtic fans welcomed everywhere. And awards to prove " They're no welcome in my hole... Well no anymore.. Sorry I couldn't resist.. | |||
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"Ajax fans are well known trouble makers. Celtic fans welcomed everywhere. And awards to prove " tell that to Rafal Rybicki im sure he wouldnt agree | |||
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"15 arrested out of 12,000 not a bad result " 44 out of 12,000 now. Real heavy handed stuff so the Scottish press are saying. | |||
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"15 arrested out of 12,000 not a bad result 44 out of 12,000 now. Real heavy handed stuff so the Scottish press are saying. " 44 fans fighting for there lifes. | |||
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"15 arrested out of 12,000 not a bad result 44 out of 12,000 now. Real heavy handed stuff so the Scottish press are saying. 44 fans fighting for there lifes." fighting for their lives ?? Are they facing the death penalty or something | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt ." Did your son manage to avoid the trouble | |||
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"15 arrested out of 12,000 not a bad result " Better than 1-0. | |||
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"maybe we should of arrested the 100 ajax fans fighting inside the ground" Fighting with who? | |||
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"maybe we should of arrested the 100 ajax fans fighting inside the ground Fighting with who?" | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble " My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . " You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'. | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'." i was on the wrong end of a gang of casuals when i was 15, wrong place at the wrong time, doctors reckoned i had been lucky the embarrasing part is they were ayr united casuals | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'." | |||
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"...... i was on the wrong end of a gang of casuals when i was 15, wrong place at the wrong time, doctors reckoned i had been lucky the embarrasing part is they were ayr united casuals " Both of them? | |||
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"...... i was on the wrong end of a gang of casuals when i was 15, wrong place at the wrong time, doctors reckoned i had been lucky the embarrasing part is they were ayr united casuals Both of them?" Somewhere around 10-15 of them against wee me, big brave men dont ye think | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'." Well anyone whos ever been to The Dam square knows it full of cameras and it was all caught on film yesterday afternoon | |||
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"...... i was on the wrong end of a gang of casuals when i was 15, wrong place at the wrong time, doctors reckoned i had been lucky the embarrasing part is they were ayr united casuals Both of them? Somewhere around 10-15 of them against wee me, big brave men dont ye think " I didn't think Ayr had that many fans. | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'. i was on the wrong end of a gang of casuals when i was 15, wrong place at the wrong time, doctors reckoned i had been lucky the embarrasing part is they were ayr united casuals " Awwww you poor wee mite | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'.Well anyone whos ever been to The Dam square knows it full of cameras and it was all caught on film yesterday afternoon " Full of cameras and empty beer cans. | |||
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"The actual result aside as a mum of a Celtic fan who's in Amsterdam just now for the football I just hope to god no one is hurt after the final whistle. My so witnessed Ajax fans attacking innocent Celtic fans last night and also witnessed their behaviour both before and during the game here a few weeks ago. So fingers crossed no matter what the result that no one gets hurt . Did your son manage to avoid the trouble My son called me around midnight last night to let me know he was ok . He was in the bar on Tue night having a fabulous time bar staff all having a great time too when Ajax fans decended and caused a riot. Yesterday afternoon him and his girlfriend and a few friend were in The Dam square, he said the atmosphere was awesome big party atmosphere celtic fans all having a great time when again Hundreds of Ajax fans appeared and all hell broke loose. He said the police were out of order and very heavy handed just lashing out at anyone near then with battons, he witness a few celtic fans who were only trying to get out of the way getting smacked on the head by several police officers. Ajax fans my ass they are nothing but holigans and yes before anyone comments I know ever team has then . You could change the names of the teams involved for whichever two names suit your point of view and the message would still be the same. It's always 'we did nothing wrong, they caused all the problems'.Well anyone whos ever been to The Dam square knows it full of cameras and it was all caught on film yesterday afternoon Full of cameras and empty beer cans." lol and the point is ? | |||
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"Drink had been taken." By every supporter there ? I think not lol | |||
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"Drink had been taken.By every supporter there ? I think not lol" I'm not aware of anyone suggesting drink had been taken by every supporter there. | |||
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"Drink had been taken.By every supporter there ? I think not lol" Attacked by plain clothes policemen is the word now. Celtic should be ashamed of the statement they have just issued given the amount of footage all over youtube today. The bottles raining down not only on the police but also on trams running through the square is inexcusable. £30 software again maybe Mr Lawwell Are we really to believe the 28 Celtic fans arrested were all victims of miscarraiges of justice? Everyone an innocent caught up in it. We even have radio callers claiming the plain clothes cops attacked the fans for no reason. | |||
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"Drink had been taken.By every supporter there ? I think not lol Attacked by plain clothes policemen is the word now. Celtic should be ashamed of the statement they have just issued given the amount of footage all over youtube today. The bottles raining down not only on the police but also on trams running through the square is inexcusable. £30 software again maybe Mr Lawwell Are we really to believe the 28 Celtic fans arrested were all victims of miscarraiges of justice? Everyone an innocent caught up in it. We even have radio callers claiming the plain clothes cops attacked the fans for no reason. " good to see your maths have improved. You quoted 44 arrests earlier.room for improvement with your history lesson though | |||
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"Drink had been taken.By every supporter there ? I think not lol Attacked by plain clothes policemen is the word now. Celtic should be ashamed of the statement they have just issued given the amount of footage all over youtube today. The bottles raining down not only on the police but also on trams running through the square is inexcusable. £30 software again maybe Mr Lawwell Are we really to believe the 28 Celtic fans arrested were all victims of miscarraiges of justice? Everyone an innocent caught up in it. We even have radio callers claiming the plain clothes cops attacked the fans for no reason. " I didn't say everyone was innocent but there were certainly a lot of innocent people caught up in it all | |||
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"Drink had been taken.By every supporter there ? I think not lol Attacked by plain clothes policemen is the word now. Celtic should be ashamed of the statement they have just issued given the amount of footage all over youtube today. The bottles raining down not only on the police but also on trams running through the square is inexcusable. £30 software again maybe Mr Lawwell Are we really to believe the 28 Celtic fans arrested were all victims of miscarraiges of justice? Everyone an innocent caught up in it. We even have radio callers claiming the plain clothes cops attacked the fans for no reason. I didn't say everyone was innocent but there were certainly a lot of innocent people caught up in it all " this is always the case and im sure there was many innocent ajax fans there getting smacked on the head with trunchoens also but to say all cetic fans are innocent is far from the truth yes ajax fans are bad but celtics casuals aint no saints | |||
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"Drink had been taken.By every supporter there ? I think not lol Attacked by plain clothes policemen is the word now. Celtic should be ashamed of the statement they have just issued given the amount of footage all over youtube today. The bottles raining down not only on the police but also on trams running through the square is inexcusable. £30 software again maybe Mr Lawwell Are we really to believe the 28 Celtic fans arrested were all victims of miscarraiges of justice? Everyone an innocent caught up in it. We even have radio callers claiming the plain clothes cops attacked the fans for no reason. I didn't say everyone was innocent but there were certainly a lot of innocent people caught up in it all this is always the case and im sure there was many innocent ajax fans there getting smacked on the head with trunchoens also but to say all cetic fans are innocent is far from the truth yes ajax fans are bad but celtics casuals aint no saints" Yes im sure there was im simply telling you what my son witnessed | |||
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"In fairness, having seen the banner unfurled by Ajax fans during the game, I'm surprised there wasn't more trouble after the match. It doesn't seem to have been reported by the match officials." Cant have it both ways now. If I am guessing you are talking about the F word then the Celtic support used to chant about being part of Paddy McCourts Fxxx Army. There is also loads of merchandising stating exactly the same thing (google it and look at images if you dont believe me) It is either offensive or not, you cannot switch on and off the offensive mode. As for banners there was FB photos of the Green Brigade outside the stadium on Tuesday with banners with a pretty direct message to the Ajax fans. Cannot have it both ways. As for post game trouble the Dutch cops keep the away support in for a min 1 hour after the game. Good idea. BTW The dutch hooligans are by a mile the worst I have ever seen in action. Crazy crazy bastards. | |||
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"In fairness, having seen the banner unfurled by Ajax fans during the game, I'm surprised there wasn't more trouble after the match. It doesn't seem to have been reported by the match officials. Cant have it both ways now. If I am guessing you are talking about the F word then the Celtic support used to chant about being part of Paddy McCourts Fxxx Army. There is also loads of merchandising stating exactly the same thing (google it and look at images if you dont believe me) It is either offensive or not, you cannot switch on and off the offensive mode. As for banners there was FB photos of the Green Brigade outside the stadium on Tuesday with banners with a pretty direct message to the Ajax fans. Cannot have it both ways. As for post game trouble the Dutch cops keep the away support in for a min 1 hour after the game. Good idea. BTW The dutch hooligans are by a mile the worst I have ever seen in action. Crazy crazy bastards." I'm not trying to 'have it both ways'. I'm only commenting on what I saw on telly. I have no interest in football beyond the impact it makes on Scotland's reputation at home and abroad. Bits of the internet may well be littered with stuff all of us would rather not see but the vast majority of the population don't go mining the net for that stuff. What we see is the pictures brought into our homes by BBC/ STV. Each put a different emphasis on what happened, but the pictures didn't lie. | |||
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"In fairness, having seen the banner unfurled by Ajax fans during the game, I'm surprised there wasn't more trouble after the match. It doesn't seem to have been reported by the match officials. Cant have it both ways now. If I am guessing you are talking about the F word then the Celtic support used to chant about being part of Paddy McCourts Fxxx Army. There is also loads of merchandising stating exactly the same thing (google it and look at images if you dont believe me) It is either offensive or not, you cannot switch on and off the offensive mode. As for banners there was FB photos of the Green Brigade outside the stadium on Tuesday with banners with a pretty direct message to the Ajax fans. Cannot have it both ways. As for post game trouble the Dutch cops keep the away support in for a min 1 hour after the game. Good idea. BTW The dutch hooligans are by a mile the worst I have ever seen in action. Crazy crazy bastards. I'm not trying to 'have it both ways'. I'm only commenting on what I saw on telly. I have no interest in football beyond the impact it makes on Scotland's reputation at home and abroad. Bits of the internet may well be littered with stuff all of us would rather not see but the vast majority of the population don't go mining the net for that stuff. What we see is the pictures brought into our homes by BBC/ STV. Each put a different emphasis on what happened, but the pictures didn't lie." Having it both ways was a general comment, not direct at you. BBC & STV are soft soaping this like the majority of the Scottish media. Take 2 mins to check out the Dutch media who have no relationships to preserve. Pictures don't lie as you say. I have seen first hand plenty of fans / foreign police situations and I can tell you 100% that the police do not start riots. Arsehole fans with too much drink are 100% to blame for starting any trouble. Be it Rangers, Celtic or Scotland there are loads of twats who travel. Plenty of innocents will get caught up. For the club to blame the cops is bonkers. The problem now is you will see revisionism of what actually happened despite the evidence. By the Barcelona game the Celtic support will be the greatest ever again with no history of trouble. Sweep Sweep is the technical term or maybe it just plain old simple denial | |||
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"In fairness, having seen the banner unfurled by Ajax fans during the game, I'm surprised there wasn't more trouble after the match. It doesn't seem to have been reported by the match officials. Cant have it both ways now. If I am guessing you are talking about the F word then the Celtic support used to chant about being part of Paddy McCourts Fxxx Army. There is also loads of merchandising stating exactly the same thing (google it and look at images if you dont believe me) It is either offensive or not, you cannot switch on and off the offensive mode. As for banners there was FB photos of the Green Brigade outside the stadium on Tuesday with banners with a pretty direct message to the Ajax fans. Cannot have it both ways. As for post game trouble the Dutch cops keep the away support in for a min 1 hour after the game. Good idea. BTW The dutch hooligans are by a mile the worst I have ever seen in action. Crazy crazy bastards. I'm not trying to 'have it both ways'. I'm only commenting on what I saw on telly. I have no interest in football beyond the impact it makes on Scotland's reputation at home and abroad. Bits of the internet may well be littered with stuff all of us would rather not see but the vast majority of the population don't go mining the net for that stuff. What we see is the pictures brought into our homes by BBC/ STV. Each put a different emphasis on what happened, but the pictures didn't lie. Having it both ways was a general comment, not direct at you. .........." It was direct reply to my post, quoting my post. | |||
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"........... For the club to blame the cops is bonkers. The problem now is you will see revisionism of what actually happened despite the evidence. By the Barcelona game the Celtic support will be the greatest ever again with no history of trouble. Sweep Sweep is the technical term or maybe it just plain old simple denial " You're surely not implying Celtic fans get an easier ride from cops in countries where different faiths have greater influence, are you? That would be a scurrilous suggestion. | |||
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"In fairness, having seen the banner unfurled by Ajax fans during the game, I'm surprised there wasn't more trouble after the match. It doesn't seem to have been reported by the match officials. Cant have it both ways now. If I am guessing you are talking about the F word then the Celtic support used to chant about being part of Paddy McCourts Fxxx Army. There is also loads of merchandising stating exactly the same thing (google it and look at images if you dont believe me) It is either offensive or not, you cannot switch on and off the offensive mode. As for banners there was FB photos of the Green Brigade outside the stadium on Tuesday with banners with a pretty direct message to the Ajax fans. Cannot have it both ways. As for post game trouble the Dutch cops keep the away support in for a min 1 hour after the game. Good idea. BTW The dutch hooligans are by a mile the worst I have ever seen in action. Crazy crazy bastards. I'm not trying to 'have it both ways'. I'm only commenting on what I saw on telly. I have no interest in football beyond the impact it makes on Scotland's reputation at home and abroad. Bits of the internet may well be littered with stuff all of us would rather not see but the vast majority of the population don't go mining the net for that stuff. What we see is the pictures brought into our homes by BBC/ STV. Each put a different emphasis on what happened, but the pictures didn't lie. Having it both ways was a general comment, not direct at you. BBC & STV are soft soaping this like the majority of the Scottish media. Take 2 mins to check out the Dutch media who have no relationships to preserve. Pictures don't lie as you say. I have seen first hand plenty of fans / foreign police situations and I can tell you 100% that the police do not start riots. Arsehole fans with too much drink are 100% to blame for starting any trouble. Be it Rangers, Celtic or Scotland there are loads of twats who travel. Plenty of innocents will get caught up. For the club to blame the cops is bonkers. The problem now is you will see revisionism of what actually happened despite the evidence. By the Barcelona game the Celtic support will be the greatest ever again with no history of trouble. Sweep Sweep is the technical term or maybe it just plain old simple denial " indenial one word sums it all up Anyone else win at the bookies | |||
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"........... For the club to blame the cops is bonkers. The problem now is you will see revisionism of what actually happened despite the evidence. By the Barcelona game the Celtic support will be the greatest ever again with no history of trouble. Sweep Sweep is the technical term or maybe it just plain old simple denial You're surely not implying Celtic fans get an easier ride from cops in countries where different faiths have greater influence, are you? That would be a scurrilous suggestion." No, but they get an easier ride from the poodle media in certain countries. ON their planet you are allowed to believe anything you want regardless if every body in the land and beyond say otherwise. Like the song says "You just put your fingers in your ears and say na na na na na" | |||
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