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How many of you would consider yourself as having a foot in both camps?
I certainly do. New to the swing scene but have been on the kink scene for about 11 years.
There seems to be more and more crossover which is great. In the past I've often felt the Scottish kink scene was a little prudish so it's nice to have events happening that cater to both. |
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I found something stirring in me when I watched some bondage play at CJ’s, so I’m keen to explore more in the kink world. Finding a partner to build a relationship of trust with is a challenge but one I’m keen to find  |
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Definitely not just me then
I think it's great that most venues seem to realise and be catering to both now. I know for our event it's the main focus.
I guess some people know in themselves that they're kinky and others, like mentioned above, have to see it and feel inspired.
It just opens up a whole new world of mischief to be had! 
I have sometimes worried I was too slutty for the kink world and too kinky for the swing so it's really reassuring to know there is an ever growing crossover |
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"We don't consider a difference between the two. It is depending on the partners and everyone's wants, needs and desires.
Long term friends and trust help to live out some great kink.
Xxx"
I agree but in the sense of a club night there is usually a devide. Kink nights seem to be only impact play and little sex unless hidden in a room, there isn't much crossover to actually be seen |
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"We don't consider a difference between the two. It is depending on the partners and everyone's wants, needs and desires.
Long term friends and trust help to live out some great kink.
Xxx
I agree but in the sense of a club night there is usually a devide. Kink nights seem to be only impact play and little sex unless hidden in a room, there isn't much crossover to actually be seen"
Definitely a lot of Scottish kink nights there is a definite divide!
Our event is intended to be sex positive so will appeal to people like ourselves who prefer both together.
I love impact play and humiliation but I enjoyed it soooo much more with a little pleasure thrown in
We quite often go to clubs down south so that we can indulge in both and it's a much more relaxed, fun atmosphere and that's why we were inspired to try it up here.
Just hope enough folk share our opinion and come along and make it a success xx |
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"We don't consider a difference between the two. It is depending on the partners and everyone's wants, needs and desires.
Long term friends and trust help to live out some great kink.
Xxx
I agree but in the sense of a club night there is usually a devide. Kink nights seem to be only impact play and little sex unless hidden in a room, there isn't much crossover to actually be seen
Definitely a lot of Scottish kink nights there is a definite divide!
Our event is intended to be sex positive so will appeal to people like ourselves who prefer both together.
I love impact play and humiliation but I enjoyed it soooo much more with a little pleasure thrown in
We quite often go to clubs down south so that we can indulge in both and it's a much more relaxed, fun atmosphere and that's why we were inspired to try it up here.
Just hope enough folk share our opinion and come along and make it a success xx"
I wonder why Scotland is different 
Ye I'd love to see kinky play thrown in with sex. We were in the same room at AD while I was whipping and you were getting spanked lol
And it was strange just to walk away and go to the bar after instead of it escalating there and then |
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"We don't consider a difference between the two. It is depending on the partners and everyone's wants, needs and desires.
Long term friends and trust help to live out some great kink.
Xxx
I agree but in the sense of a club night there is usually a devide. Kink nights seem to be only impact play and little sex unless hidden in a room, there isn't much crossover to actually be seen
Definitely a lot of Scottish kink nights there is a definite divide!
Our event is intended to be sex positive so will appeal to people like ourselves who prefer both together.
I love impact play and humiliation but I enjoyed it soooo much more with a little pleasure thrown in
We quite often go to clubs down south so that we can indulge in both and it's a much more relaxed, fun atmosphere and that's why we were inspired to try it up here.
Just hope enough folk share our opinion and come along and make it a success xx
I wonder why Scotland is different
Ye I'd love to see kinky play thrown in with sex. We were in the same room at AD while I was whipping and you were getting spanked lol
And it was strange just to walk away and go to the bar after instead of it escalating there and then "
Ahhh that was you! Those were some very delicious sound effects to listen to during my scene!!
100% agree, why spoil the mood by stopping, packing away toys and going to a room!! |
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Personally, I'm not sure how the swing would work for me without the kink.
I need the D/s aspect of not being in control. Not just because is stops the (misplaced) guilt I have for being slutty but because I know without having someone in charge I'd get myself into a world of trouble!! I get horny and all my common sense goes out the window lol |
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"How many of you would consider yourself as having a foot in both camps?
I certainly do. New to the swing scene but have been on the kink scene for about 11 years.
There seems to be more and more crossover which is great. In the past I've often felt the Scottish kink scene was a little prudish so it's nice to have events happening that cater to both. "
Also i do have to agree the scottish kink scene can appear prudish and reserved and at times just a little boring. |
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"How many of you would consider yourself as having a foot in both camps?
I certainly do. New to the swing scene but have been on the kink scene for about 11 years.
There seems to be more and more crossover which is great. In the past I've often felt the Scottish kink scene was a little prudish so it's nice to have events happening that cater to both.
Also i do have to agree the scottish kink scene can appear prudish and reserved and at times just a little boring."
Until recently, with new sex positive events, I'd always felt that it was odd that sex was shameful, taboo or only for in private when beating the shit out of each other was absolutely fine!!
Gal of my generation, I'm naturally inclined to feel an element of shame about being a bit slutty,that's ok, I can work with that, it feeds my humiliation fetish. But was always disappointed that the kink scene, which is supposed to be open minded and inclusive, acted like it was shameful too. I'm glad things are changing
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Definitely both got me been in the bdsm/kink scene since I was 18 and in the swinging scene 12/13 years so have noticed a big difference in both scenes and how they have merged a lot more in recent years. |
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By *ensualMan
over a year ago
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As always I preface this as being my view, in the kink BDSM world there is more than one way to practice it, and there are differing views.
I am probably one of the prudish and stand off-ish people when it comes to what is in my view the swingers and narcissists ("narcissists in the original meaning of the word) takeover of BDSM largely based on the porn view of BDSM. In my view "kink" is defined in an out of date way in combining sexual arousal and non standard sexual practices. The modern understanding of the pleasure receptors is that people derive pleasure from BDSM the pleasure not necessarily being arousal. Therefore, saying your kinky and breaking out Anne Summers 50SOG kink kit means we are swimming in different parts of the pool. Likewise, if your idea of the fabulous Japanese sadomasochistic erotic practice shibari is multi-coloured patterns on the body, again we are in a different parts of the pool. Which is fine it is one pool but different practices. In the same way at swimming pools they separate those who want to do laps from those that want to play, there is a reason for the separation. Different events attract different behaviours.
Historically there has always been an overlap, and of course a middle ground. Most London fetish events have a couples' room, which I think is an acceptable compromise. I take the view if you want to do exhibitionistic sex, or exhibitionistic nudity, swinging events or Torture Garden are perfect for it.
I would argue there is a difference between sex positivity and sexual exhibitionism. Nudity for the sake of nudity or adoration is not a kink. It should be on Fab and not FL (FL's "K&P' is atrocious.
Another reason I am not for mixed events is that the sexual aspect generally draws in people who do not know how to behave or are against BDSM play. The fetish party then becomes known as a sex party and attracts more vanilla types looking for sex. Although I there should be mixed events provided they are clearly advertised as such. However,I won't attend. I prefer classic BDSM events.
Abfabs in one of its circulars said it would be holding a fetish Friday event. I won't be going, I still miss the Thursday HDZ event at Abfabs 1. |
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I'm of the opinion that you don't need sex for BDSM but including sex doesn't make it any the less BDSM.
The sex isn't about exhibitionism, although it definitely can be, its about the connection between myself and my partner. I love contrast between pleasure and pain. I'm his to hurt and his pleasure as he sees fit.
I'd agrue that even in traditional kink clubs, without sex, that you are only seeing 'scenes' of impact etc the vast majority of the time because it the truly intimate parts of BDSM, the dominance and the submission are often so subtle and private that they wouldn't be obvious to a bystander.
If it's ok to show other parts of your dynamic in public, why not the sexual parts?
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