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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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i found this poem today, based on the famous In Flanders Fields
to Flanders Fields the tourists go
To _iew the Crosses row-on row,
on- row, on-row,on-row
In Flanders Fields.
Horrendous scars of War still shoe
Where youth was felled
With nervous steps we trod the boards
Where our Young Heroes stopped the hordes
Of arrogant, would-be overlords-
But Oh, the COST!!
price that we could ill-afford
Of young men lost.
No more the nauseating stench
Pollutes the eerie ,silent trench,
As mourners gaze, and gasp, and wince
On shell-torn land;
No more the rats, the lice,or drenched
Young shiv'ring band...
They gave their lives to keep us Free,
Then flung The Torch to You, and Me-
This Great Responsibility,
We MUST accept....
We cannot shirk, or ever be,
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Having travelled throughout Scotland for the last two years Every village town or city has a memorial to the fallen. Centotaphs on Sunday, will have wreaths laid there to the fallens sacrifice. From the South Atlantic to Helmand a minutes silence will occur as long as HMF are stationed there.
I'll visit my pals grave in Bannockburn this Sunday, he left a widow with three young children.
Sans Peur |
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By *eatherWoman
over a year ago
glasgow |
i stood yesterday and watched the poppy sellers at the top of buchanan st and the number of people who walked by them was shameful.Ok we are all entitled to our _iews but come on folks a wee 20p or 50p in the can even though
u dont want a poppy is nothin the same happened later in edinburgh wehen i was on the bus in princess street ,Sorry if this controversial but i just had to say it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is a shame that people do not buy poppy flowers as a mark of rememberance, but some people have no idea what some service men went through for there country.
Like myself there are a few ex military on the site who have served in the theatres of war and came through it relatively unscathed, and on this week of rememberance, I salute them one and all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My son is on parade Sunday as an army cadet, it's so moving to see such young boys and girls paying their respect to all men and woman who have been killed or affected by war.
God bless x |
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Sadly there was an article in the paper the other day to say the sale of poppies has been banned from celtic park and a supporters group had appealed for it to be changed. Its a shame in this day folk cant put aside bigotry as if even a small fraction of the 60,000 bought a poppy at the game the money raised would be amazing.
Either way ill be wearing mines with pride. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Such a shame that flagwaving,xenophobic propoganda, created by greedy businessmen and politicians pulls the wool over the general population of real workers and convinces them about an 'enemy' and get them to do the fighting - generally with them ending up dead, possibly after killing other innocent, working class people caught up in war - 90+% of whom will be civilians. All victims of war should be Remembered. Remembrance is surely only worth something if it makes us never want war again and be more tolerant world citizens. If it doesn't - it's worthless. |
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No matter who is for or against the sale of poppies or the rememberance parades,think where we would be today if it had'nt been for our service personnel,and yes Mr Friends was one of them,is yes I will be at a parade on sunday and my head will be held high with a tear in my eye for the friends and the people I knew who lost their lifes for us to be able to stand and remember them. We shall remember them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Think where we'd be today if greedy politicians and businessmen didn't con people through propoganda into fighting 'the enemy'...90% of dead in wars in last century to present were civilians. I say let the politicians fight and be killed for a change...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Absolutely. Just as those who have been civilians/'enemies' killed in wars should never be forgotten. Perhaps the central message is that war is simply wrong. |
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By *ustyWoman
over a year ago
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i was an air cadet many years ago and was always on parade on rememberance sunday, i then married in to the forces and my now ex was involved in the falklands and gulf war, i will always remember those who have lost there lives in conflict and fully support the poppy appeal and erskine hospital.............a poppy should be worn with pride and given the respect it deserves...........we will remember them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Agree _usty. Am ex-forces myself. Those on 'other sides' should also be remembered, as 99% of them, like 'us' were just doing a job/caught up in the warmongering politics of rich men |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ex forces myself and still fills my heart with pride the way all our forces continue to keep the 'great' in Great Britain.without question both past and present the men and woman of our armed forces continue to put their life at risk to serve their country without complaint or conditions.
For those men and woman who have given their lives serving their country we are forever in debt to you.
On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month Least we forget |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
An 83 year old Scot arrived in Paris by plane. As he was fumbling in his bag to find his passport, a stern French lady asked if he had been to France before.
He admitted he had been there previously. The lady sarcastically replied "Then you should know to have your passport out and waiting Sir". The auld guy said "I didn't have to show it last time".
"Impossible !" The woman snapped. " You British have always had to show your passports to get through here".
The man responded by whispering "Well young lady, when I came ashore on the beach on D-Day I couldn't find any fucking Frenchmen to show it too !"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's a bit disappointing that this thread has less than 10 posts whilst the Celtic v Barcelona and Scotland Manager threads have nearly 50.
I think and hope that Celtic can follow on from a glorious midweek event to ask thier sixty thousand fans to respect the fallen this weekend.......sadly I doubt if they will.  "
Celtic donated £10,000 this week to Poppy Scotland but hey don't let that derail your agenda you bitter hurting Sevco Zombie (yer team is dead!) |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"It's a bit disappointing that this thread has less than 10 posts whilst the Celtic v Barcelona and Scotland Manager threads have nearly 50.
I think and hope that Celtic can follow on from a glorious midweek event to ask thier sixty thousand fans to respect the fallen this weekend.......sadly I doubt if they will.
Celtic donated £10,000 this week to Poppy Scotland but hey don't let that derail your agenda you bitter hurting Sevco Zombie (yer team is dead!)"
Dear oh dear. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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See all this poppyganda - sticks in my throat so it does. Many of the Celtic Support don't wish to commemorate every British soldier due their Irish heritage/ancestry - hardly surprising when you consider the atrocities committed by the Black and Tans.
Personally I support many charities and I will donate but I won't wear one and the backlash for not wearing one borders on Fascism - ironically what many brave soldiers lost their lives fighting against. They certainly deserve more than garish poppy face masks and poppies on cars like red noses from comic relief - tacky and gaudy, the commercialising of what should be a solemn thing is pathetic.
RANT OVER!!! (Harley doesn't agree, she's a hurting Sevco fan!) |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"See all this poppyganda - sticks in my throat so it does. Many of the Celtic Support don't wish to commemorate every British soldier due their Irish heritage/ancestry - hardly surprising when you consider the atrocities committed by the Black and Tans.
Personally I support many charities and I will donate but I won't wear one and the backlash for not wearing one borders on Fascism - ironically what many brave soldiers lost their lives fighting against. They certainly deserve more than garish poppy face masks and poppies on cars like red noses from comic relief - tacky and gaudy, the commercialising of what should be a solemn thing is pathetic.
RANT OVER!!! (Harley doesn't agree, she's a hurting Sevco fan!)"
Dear oh dear. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Feel free to clarify your case because frankly you don't seem to have a clue it would seem.
For example: people of Indian Heritage, would it be unacceptable for them to not wish to commemorate the fallen British soldiers of the Raj?
This notion we should commemorate the fallen of all our conflicts thus giving legitimacy to every military campaign (as Blair sought to do) is ridiculous.
Even more ridiculous is parading British soldiers at the home of a football club guilty of defrauding the Exchequer to the tune of £100 mill - that would have bought a lot of body armour that could have saved lives! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Remembrance = Commemoration
Commemorating does not give legitimacy? And for the record I do my bit for charities and donate to Poppy Scotland also, just don't feel the need to walk around with what is essentially a badge saying 'look at how good I am, I gave money to charity'. I actually prefer not to discuss my charitable efforts but given relevance to this discussion I have broken that rule. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Remembrance = Commemoration
Commemorating does not give legitimacy? And for the record I do my bit for charities and donate to Poppy Scotland also, just don't feel the need to walk around with what is essentially a badge saying 'look at how good I am, I gave money to charity'. I actually prefer not to discuss my charitable efforts but given relevance to this discussion I have broken that rule."
Remembrance isn't about commemoration or celebration or any other nonsense. It's about remembering. The clue is in the word.
I'll leave your instinct NOT to discuss your 'charitable efforts' and your decision TO discuss them to others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Haha yeah I'll take lessons from a guy that discussed how sad it was people were not posting a huge amount about Remembering the fallen on a swingers forum!!!
You know where you can ram your attempts to sound moralistic and your obvious agenda don't you? (Clue: shit comes out from it and I'm not talking about your mouth - other end) |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Haha yeah I'll take lessons from a guy that discussed how sad it was people were not posting a huge amount about Remembering the fallen on a swingers forum!!!
You know where you can ram your attempts to sound moralistic and your obvious agenda don't you? (Clue: shit comes out from it and I'm not talking about your mouth - other end)"
Dear oh dear. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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this started as a thread of remembrance, OF ALL WHO DIE BECAUSE OF WAR..... i am thinking of asking admin to remove it because of some of the comments posted and how it has degenerated into a slanging match.... and its making me SAD |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A Soldier
There is discipline in a soldier
you can see it when he walks,
There is honor in a soldier
you hear it when he talks.
There is courage in a soldier
you can see it in his eyes,
There is loyalty in a soldier
that he will not compromise.
There is something in a soldier
that makes him stand apart,
There is strength in a soldier
that beats from his heart.
A soldier isn't a title any man
can be hired to do,
A soldier is the soul of that man
buried deep inside of you.
A soldier's job isn't finished after
an 8 hour day or a 40 hour week,
A soldier is always a soldier
even while he sleeps.
A soldier serves his country first
and his life is left behind,
A soldier has to sacrifice what
comes first in a civilian's mind.
If you are civilian -
I am saying this to you.....
next time you see a soldier
remember what they do.
A soldier is the reason our land
is 'Home of the free',
A soldier is the one that is brave
protecting you and me.
If you are a soldier -
I am saying this to you.....
Thank god for every soldier
Thank god for what you do.
this is the one i like keeps you in mind of those who have fallen , those who have been wounded an those still fighting for us to stay safe every night , so i will always remember .
their there to fight for you ............ |
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By *z ThongzWoman
over a year ago
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We will remember the fallen who gave their lives for their country, we will remember those maimed for life through war, we will remember the families of those left behind. We will remember those whose minds have been tortured by the visions of war and whose dreams are relived moments.
We shall remember. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I see myself as fortunate to have served and served in theatre.
It's something that not all achieve or understand or survive.
Just buy a poppy to help those who have survived the trauma and to remember those who didnt.
No if's buts or maybes, its not political and its not religious. Its just thanks and respect.
Simples!!!! |
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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago
bellshill |
"98 years ago today, my Great Grandfather died on Flanders Field, serving with the Black Watch. Lost but not forgotten. "
Mine likewise at Bruay in 1917......the morons who can only remember back to a football game really are exposing thier intelligence level. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A topic apparently about remembering those killed in wars (hopefully not just military, who got killed, but ALSO did the killing - but also the far greate number of civilian dead thanks to wars and hate too) - Yet so many 'tribal'/xenophobic/sectarian pointless rants....and we wonder how wars start...a tad ironic?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Last couple of posts are spot on......keep football and bigotry to yourselves this is about where we are today and the people who helped get us here.Have some respect and haud yer tongues. |
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"this started as a thread of remembrance, OF ALL WHO DIE BECAUSE OF WAR..... i am thinking of asking admin to remove it because of some of the comments posted and how it has degenerated into a slanging match.... and its making me SAD"
Sadly have to agree Avril that a small amount of people have to turn a post that was intended to remember our war heros into bitter hatred yet again so so sad  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To OP I'm sure the people who wanted to post something morally correct about remembrance have done so now. There for could you please close post as I think for some people reading some of the posts could be upsetting.
Thank you. |
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By *adcowWoman
over a year ago
kirkcaldy |
Respect to al those still serving and thanks for those who paid the ultimate sacrifice and gave their lives that we can have the freedom of choice.
On my 7 th poppy as I keep losing them. means they always get more cash out of me |
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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago
central scotland |
"It's a bit disappointing that this thread has less than 10 posts whilst the Celtic v Barcelona and Scotland Manager threads have nearly 50.
I think and hope that Celtic can follow on from a glorious midweek event to ask thier sixty thousand fans to respect the fallen this weekend.......sadly I doubt if they will. "
That is a slur on the thousands off celtic supporters who serve at present and the thousands more who have died all for what was a bad element. |
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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago
central scotland |
As soon as I read the headline "Remembrance" i knew not too far down the bigotry would start.
If you want to buy a poppy do so and if not dont but to slate a whole group because of the actions of a few morons is totaly wrong.
We will remember them. |
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By *ustyWoman
over a year ago
inverclyde |
to me and some other posters a wearing a poppy is showing respect to all of those who have died in conflict...... watch the parade on sunday on BBC and see the all the men and women paying there respects, young and old the children as well who are there as they have lost a parent with the conflicts now.......feel for them and also the men and women in conflict now |
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"A Soldier
There is discipline in a soldier
you can see it when he walks,
There is honor in a soldier
you hear it when he talks.
There is courage in a soldier
you can see it in his eyes,
There is loyalty in a soldier
that he will not compromise.
There is something in a soldier
that makes him stand apart,
There is strength in a soldier
that beats from his heart.
A soldier isn't a title any man
can be hired to do,
A soldier is the soul of that man
buried deep inside of you.
A soldier's job isn't finished after
an 8 hour day or a 40 hour week,
A soldier is always a soldier
even while he sleeps.
A soldier serves his country first
and his life is left behind,
A soldier has to sacrifice what
comes first in a civilian's mind.
If you are civilian -
I am saying this to you.....
next time you see a soldier
remember what they do.
A soldier is the reason our land
is 'Home of the free',
A soldier is the one that is brave
protecting you and me.
If you are a soldier -
I am saying this to you.....
Thank god for every soldier
Thank god for what you do.
this is the one i like keeps you in mind of those who have fallen , those who have been wounded an those still fighting for us to stay safe every night , so i will always remember .
their there to fight for you ............"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A Soldier
There is discipline in a soldier
you can see it when he walks,
There is honor in a soldier
you hear it when he talks.
There is courage in a soldier
you can see it in his eyes,
There is loyalty in a soldier
that he will not compromise.
There is something in a soldier
that makes him stand apart,
There is strength in a soldier
that beats from his heart.
A soldier isn't a title any man
can be hired to do,
A soldier is the soul of that man
buried deep inside of you.
A soldier's job isn't finished after
an 8 hour day or a 40 hour week,
A soldier is always a soldier
even while he sleeps.
A soldier serves his country first
and his life is left behind,
A soldier has to sacrifice what
comes first in a civilian's mind.
If you are civilian -
I am saying this to you.....
next time you see a soldier
remember what they do.
A soldier is the reason our land
is 'Home of the free',
A soldier is the one that is brave
protecting you and me.
If you are a soldier -
I am saying this to you.....
Thank god for every soldier
Thank god for what you do.
this is the one i like keeps you in mind of those who have fallen , those who have been wounded an those still fighting for us to stay safe every night , so i will always remember .
their there to fight for you ............
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
We WILL remember them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They went with songs to the battle, they were young.
Straight of limb,
true of eyes, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted, They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.
Have bought a poppy every day in Central Station. The ammount of people walking by was shocking ,in my opinion |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"to me and some other posters a wearing a poppy is showing respect to all of those who have died in conflict...... watch the parade on sunday on BBC and see the all the men and women paying there respects, young and old the children as well who are there as they have lost a parent with the conflicts now.......feel for them and also the men and women in conflict now"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To OP I'm sure the people who wanted to post something morally correct about remembrance have done so now. There for could you please close post as I think for some people reading some of the posts could be upsetting.
Thank you."
i won't remove this post, because to do so would only be backing down to what are sad bigoted people, with no idea of what the post is about. what they need to think about, is that they are able to be the way they are and live the way they do, only because of those we are trying to remember |
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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago
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I remember for my great grandfather, who survived.
He was a veteran of the first war and told me of the horrors in the trenches and mans inhumanity to his fellow man.
He told me of the men of both sides, bleeding to death on the wire, of the gas, bombs, bullets and smell.
I remember for my father in law who escaped the fall of france in the second war, who then fought in africa and the far east. Who returned to the bloody beaches of normandy on D day.
I remember for friends who fought in the falklands, iraq (twice) and are currently out in Afganistan.
I also remember for those innocents who died, I have stood in the gates of Auchwitz, wandered through the no mans land of the berlin wall.
My poppy does not mean I agree with war, it means I remember...
Those who have gone before and those, who through there service, place themselves in harms way. |
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"I remember for my great grandfather, who survived.
He was a veteran of the first war and told me of the horrors in the trenches and mans inhumanity to his fellow man.
He told me of the men of both sides, bleeding to death on the wire, of the gas, bombs, bullets and smell.
I remember for my father in law who escaped the fall of france in the second war, who then fought in africa and the far east. Who returned to the bloody beaches of normandy on D day.
I remember for friends who fought in the falklands, iraq (twice) and are currently out in Afganistan.
I also remember for those innocents who died, I have stood in the gates of Auchwitz, wandered through the no mans land of the berlin wall.
My poppy does not mean I agree with war, it means I remember...
Those who have gone before and those, who through there service, place themselves in harms way."
Very eloquently put. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My Great Grandfather fought for his country.. My father was TA for a number of years, Since I was a child I wore a poppy..
Recently tho I've opted to wear a white poppy rather than red. I still donate money to the poppy appeal, but the 'you should' attitude I get for not wearing a red poppy is ridiculous.. Lest we forget what our brave Men and Women past and present fought for is Freedom, in its many forms..
IMHO its become too political, and has nothing to do with football.. and the Celtic/Rangers debate is sad and pathetic point scoring, No one should be made to wear one.. and just for the record it was brought up by Gers fan looking to stoke the fire.. Pointless..
Yes I'm a Celtic fan, Yes I'll be silent as a mark of respect, For all war dead and those with war scars.. Visible and invisible..
Don't tar ppl because of what 'team' they support, Absolute nonsense..
God Bless them ALL
We Will Remember Them.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Whilst I appreciate the general sentiment, I personally think that the term 'WE WILL remember them' is often simply said parrot fashion and without too much individual, personal thinking. What is perhaps FAR moe appropriate is that we DO remember them.
'Will' implies a short term thought, only due to a commemoration at a certain time of yewar. What's more important is that WE as individuals treat other individuals humanely and fairly in our individual lives and that we abhore war and don't see it as inevitable at the same time 'remember'ing ALL victims of war - military and civilian. Perhaps if it's only commemorated at a certain, state-provided time of year and is limited to remembering military dead from this country and our 'allies' then perhaps we as a society are to blame for these kindlers of thought fuelling future wars. Perhaps year round, individually considered remembereance for ALL dead due to wars and goodness as a peaceful individual is the wider issue - and I'm pretty sure that most who actually lost their lives due to war, civilian or military, would agree, above jingoism, if they had a voice. Peace |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lovely poem Mrs B.
Tommorrow is a a very important one for me as my mother was born on the 11/11/1930.
Unfortunetly she is no longer with me having lost her battle to cancer a few years ago.
So pls remember everyone . Life is a very beautiful thing.
Ty Fred |
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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago
Livingston |
Rememberance for all who put their lives on the line...
Poppy wreath in the fridge for tomorrow morning.
Thoughts with all, whether they are remember the past, living the present or thinking of the future. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lovely poem Mrs B.
Tommorrow is a a very important one for me as my mother was born on the 11/11/1930.
Unfortunetly she is no longer with me having lost her battle to cancer a few years ago.
So pls remember everyone . Life is a very beautiful thing.
Ty Fred "
my mum was born 11.11.18 still living...a day for celebrating the living and the lost!! |
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"Lovely poem Mrs B.
Tommorrow is a a very important one for me as my mother was born on the 11/11/1930.
Unfortunetly she is no longer with me having lost her battle to cancer a few years ago.
So pls remember everyone . Life is a very beautiful thing.
Ty Fred my mum was born 11.11.18 still living...a day for celebrating the living and the lost!!"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lovely poem Mrs B.
Tommorrow is a a very important one for me as my mother was born on the 11/11/1930.
Unfortunetly she is no longer with me having lost her battle to cancer a few years ago.
So pls remember everyone . Life is a very beautiful thing.
Ty Fred my mum was born 11.11.18 still living...a day for celebrating the living and the lost!!"
I tottaly agree Kit xxxx |
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Since WW1 began in 1914 to the present date, 2,156,317 british men and women have been killed for our freedom and other nationalities...WW1, WW2, Korea, Cyprus, Northern Ireland, Falklands, Gulf and Afghanistan to name a few.
We will never forget the fallen and give our respect to our boys and girls still fighting today. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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have any of you heard the song Flowers in the Forrest...such a poignant song that never fails tobring a tear to my eyes and raise the hairs on my neck for the utter waste of young mens lives...i remember.... |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"have any of you heard the song Flowers in the Forrest...such a poignant song that never fails tobring a tear to my eyes and raise the hairs on my neck for the utter waste of young mens lives...i remember...."
I love it... makes me cry everytime |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"have any of you heard the song Flowers in the Forrest...such a poignant song that never fails tobring a tear to my eyes and raise the hairs on my neck for the utter waste of young mens lives...i remember....
I love it... makes me cry everytime"
aye its so perfectly worded...it gets me everytime too... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"as i type this, i am listening to the pipes and drums playing the lament 'the flowers of the forest', and the tears r flowing"
theirs somrthin about the pipes for a scotsman though...but if you can... listen to the words mrsb... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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may i add that people here going on about civillians being killed etc,,,,they have charities looking after some of their needs, such as oxfam and barnados!!! the poppy appeal has nothing to do with government, its all to do with helping ex service people. and as for parkhead etc, why do people feel the need to comment on other issues? the post is about rememberance of our conflicts past and present! so please leave the political crap out of it and remember the fallen. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"as i type this, i am listening to the pipes and drums playing the lament 'the flowers of the forest', and the tears r flowing
theirs somrthin about the pipes for a scotsman though...but if you can... listen to the words mrsb..."
oh i know the words hun xx |
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By *eatherWoman
over a year ago
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well thats another rememberance day over but dont let us ever forget that these brave armed forces are active all year round in the field of war.And the sad thing is on rememberance day a soldier was shot in afghanistan and he was there trying to help the local people |
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By (user no longer on site)
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One of the highlights of my career in the RAF was parading in London for Remembrance Sunday. Something I will never forget, even though I'm out now. It was very humbling to be thanked by the men AND women who had served themselves all though years ago. I know I will never forget. |
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