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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Fookin TERRIBLE. I was glad i wasn't born at the time b4 this happened and can't even get a fooked head around this.

Everytime i look at TV or listen to Radio i just want to break down and Cry for all these humans who, all they wanted to do is live in peace and just get on with there life's.

Cilivans just getting massacred

Again i can not get my fookin head around this .

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By *irtycumboCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow

The whole sorry mess is absoloutley heartbreaking ... poor innocent people! Poor innocent children!! I find myself watching the news less and less as it breaks my heart a little more inside!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Been avoiding the news then saw footage of wee kids from an orphanage being evacuated. That pushed me over the edge. Poor wee babies.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On the one hand u want to know what's going on to keep up to date but on the other hand, it just breaks my heart to see how this is affecting people and their children. It's just devastating

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By *ife NinjaMan  over a year ago

Dunfermline

Putin is a full strength bastard. The sooner he's dead, the better. Hope the people of Russia turn on him

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By *irtycumboCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Putin is a full strength bastard. The sooner he's dead, the better. Hope the people of Russia turn on him"

Couldn't agree more!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's horrible and awful. But (not wanting to take away from how bad the Ukraine situation is) at any given time, there is carnage like this going on somewhere around the world. War torn countries and regions, terrorist and fundamentalist factions, we are far from being a world at peace. It brings comfort seeing people rally around Ukraine though. And reminds us how lucky we are to live here in relative peace and security.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's horrible and awful. But (not wanting to take away from how bad the Ukraine situation is) at any given time, there is carnage like this going on somewhere around the world. War torn countries and regions, terrorist and fundamentalist factions, we are far from being a world at peace. It brings comfort seeing people rally around Ukraine though. And reminds us how lucky we are to live here in relative peace and security. "

Totally agree Gen, and not just war torn countries, there are millions of starving children across the planet and even in Scotland too. While Ukraine is tragic , I find it more tragic that people either don't see it as their wrapped up in their own wee worlds or choose to ignore what's on their doorstep at times. Blame also falls on the media to I think .

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By *bzboy66Man  over a year ago

Aberdeen

A percentage of the blame for Ukrane's situation lies with countries like the UK, France and Germany. Simply put we have gone soft. Reduced spending on the military across Europe has led Putin to think he could get away with it. Countries bickered amongst themselves, others were relying on good ole USA to spend big to keep them safe. No one wants war but a big and powerful military prevents attacks. The school bully never picked on the big boys for obvious reasons....

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By *alcon43Woman  over a year ago

Paisley

Book an AirBnB in Ukraine to help send money directly to them. AirBnB have removed their fees. Choose a host who is renting a room rather than a company.

Some of us have lived during the 80’s when the Berlin Wall fell and saw the end of the USSR. We don’t want to go back to those days.

I have colleagues in Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine.

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By *hrobbermanMan  over a year ago

Lanarkshire

In the three months from July - September 2021 British Arms Companies sold £1.4 Billion worth of arms to be dropped on civilians in the Yemen. The Saudis were the lucky purchasers. The Saudis drop the weapons from planes or fire them with up-to-the-minute British Guidance Systems. More power to us eh?

We have nothing to do with the bombardment of the Yemen and the tens of thousands of innocent civilians being killed there year on year by the Saudis. Sorry, we have nothing to do with it except we sell the Saudis the weapons and missiles.

That £1.4 Billion was just three months worth of sales to the Saudis alone. Good business for Britain eh?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So just watched a special report on Ukraine and a Professor of media diversity is now up in arms over the coverage of the war being slightly biased against some minority groups , he even had the fuckin gall to state this issue is bigger than the Ukraine war itself. The stupidity of it was the 2 newsroom presenters were fuckin agreeing with him. Is it just me that thinks the world has gone fuckin nuts when Russia invading another country , killing men women and children and potentially starting a nuclear war is less important than getting our speech right and not upset a media diversity professor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For far too long the West, and I include the UK in that, have been complicit in Putins rise to the power he now wields. Turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed in Chechnya, let him interfere in Georgia and now the Ukraine. The truly terrifying thing is most people appear completely oblivious to the dark clouds gathering in the horizon because personally I don’t think he’s going to stop until Russia restores some of the “prestige” or losses with the dissolution of the old USSR. Russian oil, gas and the oligarchs I’ll gotten gains made the West blind for far too long and now sadly the Ukraine are the latest victims of this utter madman.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It’s a horrible situation and it isn’t

Right in any way, I’m ex forces and while

It’s frustrating that NATO can’t get involved yet it’s also reassuring because I’m in line to be called up, I’d love to help but physically I’m not what I was! As much as I’d love to get right in about it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For far too long the West, and I include the UK in that, have been complicit in Putins rise to the power he now wields. Turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed in Chechnya, let him interfere in Georgia and now the Ukraine. The truly terrifying thing is most people appear completely oblivious to the dark clouds gathering in the horizon because personally I don’t think he’s going to stop until Russia restores some of the “prestige” or losses with the dissolution of the old USSR. Russian oil, gas and the oligarchs I’ll gotten gains made the West blind for far too long and now sadly the Ukraine are the latest victims of this utter madman."

Your also forgetting the chemical poisoning attack on the uk. We did virtually fuck all about it, he must have thought, uk are a bunch of pussies, I can poison their citizens on home soil and nothing happens.

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By *aster Andy and subslutCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow

If someone tells you that the U.S. is naive...

"Most fascinating thing about the Ukraine war is the sheer number of top strategic thinkers who warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the same path.

No-one listened to them and here we are."

Small compilation ?? of these warnings, from Kissinger to Mearsheimer by @RnaudBertrand*

1. George Kennan, America's foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy. As early as 1998 he warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia".

2. Kissinger, in 2014. He warned that "to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country" and that the West therefore needs a policy that is aimed at "reconciliation". He was also adamant that "Ukraine should not join NATO"

3. John Mearsheimer - Arguably the leading geopolitical scholar in the US today said in 2015: "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked [...] What we're doing is in fact encouraging that outcome."

4. Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed."

5. Clinton's defense secretary William Perry explained, in his memoir, that to him NATO enlargement is the cause of "the rupture in relations with Russia" and that in 1996 he was so opposed to it that "in the strength of my conviction, I considered resigning."

6. Stephen Cohen, a famed scholar of Russian studies, warning in 2014 that "if we move NATO forces toward Russia's borders [...] it's obviously gonna militarize the situation [and] Russia will not back off, this is existential"

7. CIA director Bill Burns* in 2008: "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for [Russia]" and "I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests". (He was then Ambassador to Moscow in 2008 when he wrote this memo). He is now director of the CIA. ‘08 memo ‘Nyet Means Nyet: Russia's NATO Enlargement Redlines’

8. Russian-American journalist Vladimir Pozner, in 2018, stated that: NATO expansion in Ukraine is unacceptable to the Russian, that there has to be a compromise where "Ukraine, guaranteed, will not become a member of NATO."

9. Malcolm Fraser, 22nd prime minister of Australia, warned in 2014 that "the move east [by NATO is] provocative, unwise and a very clear signal to Russia". He adds that this leads to a "difficult and extraordinarily dangerous problem".

10. Paul Keating, former Australian PM, in 1997: expanding NATO is "an error which may rank in the end with the strategic miscalculations which prevented Germany from taking its full place in the international system [in early 20th]"

11. Former US defense secretary Bob Gates in his 2015 memoirs: "Moving so quickly [to expand NATO] was a mistake. [...] Trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was truly overreaching [and] an especially monumental provocation"

12. Pat Buchanan, in his 1999 book A Republic, Not an Empire: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation."

13. In 1997, a group of individuals including Robert McNamara, Bill Bradley & Gary Hart wrote a letter to Bill Clinton warning the "US led effort to expand NATO is a policy error of historic proportions" and would "foster instability" in Europe. Today it's fringe, traitorous position.

14. Pat Buchanan, in his 1999 book A Republic, Not an Empire: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation."

15. Dmitriy Trenin expressed concern that Ukraine was, in the LT, the most potentially destabilizing factor in US-Russian relations, given the level of emotion & neuralgia triggered by its quest for NATO membership.

16. Sir Roderic Lyne, former British ambassador to Russia, warned a year ago that "[pushing] Ukraine into NATO [...] is stupid on every level." He adds "if you want to start a war with Russia, that's the best way of doing it."

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By *onkeymagic50Man  over a year ago

Near the harbour

so abramovich been sanctioned due to links to putin meaning Chelsea will only have season tickets in stadium. can't sell merchandise..... meanwhile in Yemen same thing happening as ukrain yet Newcastle bought by the folks who wiping Yemen off the face of the earth and it all sanctioned by UK....... selective condemnation by UK gov... media... people.... or is Yemen less important..... just curious

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also world sits back and sees Palestine getting blitzed.

Selective outcry. Shame on them all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Also world sits back and sees Palestine getting blitzed.

Selective outcry. Shame on them all."

Well said that man

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You gotta hand it to wee nippy sturgeon, she never misses a chance to play the goodie 2 shoes then expects others to pay. Scotland will open the doors to refugees without any checks but the UK government will need to fork out to pay for it , what a superstar she is, bless her wee soul, No doubt tieing most of the money up in beurocracy and pushing forward the indy fund like she did with much of the covid funds allocated to Scotland.

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By *oppolocosTV/TS  over a year ago

inverurie


"For far too long the West, and I include the UK in that, have been complicit in Putins rise to the power he now wields. Turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed in Chechnya, let him interfere in Georgia and now the Ukraine. The truly terrifying thing is most people appear completely oblivious to the dark clouds gathering in the horizon because personally I don’t think he’s going to stop until Russia restores some of the “prestige” or losses with the dissolution of the old USSR. Russian oil, gas and the oligarchs I’ll gotten gains made the West blind for far too long and now sadly the Ukraine are the latest victims of this utter madman.

Your also forgetting the chemical poisoning attack on the uk. We did virtually fuck all about it, he must have thought, uk are a bunch of pussies, I can poison their citizens on home soil and nothing happens. "

"We" did. "We" turned a blind eye to the donations by various Russians to the tory party, to Abramovich buying Chelsea, Gazprom becoming a player in the UK has market, doing nothing about the poisoning of Litvenenko.

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By *ookie69Man  over a year ago

Whistle Dixie

It's absolutely heartbreaking.

Did the Syrians receive the same compassion, though ?

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