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"It will just be the same old nonsense. Sturgeon will carry on and the sheep will still vote for her in the May election. Interesting what is happening in the background though. Seems that 3 members of the SNP NEC have resigned after Peter Murrell refused them access to the party's accounts as there is about £600,000 missing from a ring fenced account." Oh gosh, more scandal, more secrecy?    | |||
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"Cleared amazing what happens when there's no axe to grind "The problem is, folk like ‘bikerbob’ above have a hatred based on feelings and what football team you support, rather than being able to think objectively. Was always the way and will always be the way. Let’s compare how the press and the opposition have acted on this matter and compare it with the scandals that come to light each day from Westminster. Evidence matters. Now, let’s all laugh at the football linesman’s demands that she must go. | |||
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"Amazing what results get churned out when you appoint a former adviser to carry out an investigation into the party leader. Reminds me of the old GDR. Nothing to see here!!!" Oh dear. Maybe we would do well to remember whose self confessed behaviour caused this investigation in the first place? I’ll say it again, evidence matters. Not feelings, or speculation, or Daily Mail headlines. | |||
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"Wee Nic might be cleared by the Hamilton report but its still to be cleared in the House of Fab Forum Court. I mean the SNP basherss are going to be pure ragin.. Aw well.. Hey, there you with the sad face come up to my place and give it up.. "Amazing how Hamilton never leaked anything either.
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"Cleared amazing what happens when there's no axe to grind
The problem is, folk like ‘bikerbob’ above have a hatred based on feelings and what football team you support, rather than being able to think objectively. Was always the way and will always be the way.
Let’s compare how the press and the opposition have acted on this matter and compare it with the scandals that come to light each day from Westminster.
Evidence matters. Now, let’s all laugh at the football linesman’s demands that she must go."Sturgeon has been cleared by an independent enquirer with all the facts to hand but that will not matter to the trolls who persist in vitriol over narrative they have no actual knowledge of and who don’t have the wits to realise that newspaper and online news sources have agendas related to their owners or source of income, not in factual reporting. Ever. Politics polarise but it’s when the sheep don’t realise they are being herded towards the slaughterhouse of a society being quietly and stealthy introduced while diverting attention to other things like this, that it becomes dangerous. | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY "Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon? Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas... The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories. | |||
"I wonder wit wee ruthies gonna say now.. or she too busy thinking of her title in the Lords ... Baroness hypocrisy "The same Ruth the Mooth who said she’d never work with Johnson ? Amazing what cronyism does and being made a dame of the English Realm. A traitor to scotland. Sold out for ermine and gold. | |||
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"I wonder wit wee ruthies gonna say now.. or she too busy thinking of her title in the Lords ... Baroness hypocrisy
The same Ruth the Mooth who said she’d never work with Johnson ?
Amazing what cronyism does and being made a dame of the English Realm.
A traitor to scotland. Sold out for ermine and gold. "A Scottish voice in the big hoose and they complain Unreal | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories."A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011. He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government. His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings. Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
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"I wonder wit wee ruthies gonna say now.. or she too busy thinking of her title in the Lords ... Baroness hypocrisy
The same Ruth the Mooth who said she’d never work with Johnson ?
Amazing what cronyism does and being made a dame of the English Realm.
A traitor to scotland. Sold out for ermine and gold.
A Scottish voice in the big hoose and they complain Unreal "Yeah Ragin | |||
"So, in the spirit of fairness, when will it be time to go after the PM of the UK for lying and so misleading to parliament? Actually IN parliament . Recorded. At least seven times. Is that not something the UK electorate should be worried about? " 7 times indeed. Will the PM be held to account ? Will Pritel be held to account ? Will Hancock be held to account ? Will BBC, Sky and print be holding them to account ? Amazing what happens when you own the media. | |||
"Oh gonna be alot of wee feet stamping on here tonight "The fab right wing fraternity who know how guard statues but can manage to put an X in a box | |||
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"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories.
A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011.
He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government.
His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings.
Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
"According to his Wikipedia page he first worked for the SG in 2013 (appointed by Salmond no less) and then was reappointed in 2015 by Sturgeon. The National states that he was appointed to carry out this inquiry by Sturgeon. He has clearly worked very closely with her and presumably wasn’t doing it for free (i.e. was on the payroll of a SNP-led government). Does that make him independent and impartial..? | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories.
A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011.
He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government.
His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings.
Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
According to his Wikipedia page he first worked for the SG in 2013 (appointed by Salmond no less) and then was reappointed in 2015 by Sturgeon.
The National states that he was appointed to carry out this inquiry by Sturgeon.
He has clearly worked very closely with her and presumably wasn’t doing it for free (i.e. was on the payroll of a SNP-led government).
Does that make him independent and impartial..?
"Well Colin fae stv just said he was independent and impartial and above reproach
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"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories.
A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011.
He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government.
His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings.
Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
According to his Wikipedia page he first worked for the SG in 2013 (appointed by Salmond no less) and then was reappointed in 2015 by Sturgeon.
The National states that he was appointed to carry out this inquiry by Sturgeon.
He has clearly worked very closely with her and presumably wasn’t doing it for free (i.e. was on the payroll of a SNP-led government).
Does that make him independent and impartial..?
Well Colin fae stv just said he was independent and impartial and above reproach
2011 he was appointed "Oh well, who knows... Sadly, the whole sorry affair hasn’t done much for the reputation of Scotland or any of its politicians. The country has never been so divided and unfortunately another referendum isn’t going to fix that whichever way it goes... | |||
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"I'm very surprised Hamilton didn't find her guilty of breaching the ministerial code but as others on here have said, her name is smeared now anyway x" Not really. She’ll come out of this stronger I reckon. I’ll dm her on her Fab profile. | |||
It is ON! | |||
"Pass the popcorn
It is ON!"Sweet or salty? | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY "I think NS has been clever with her evidence to the enquiry, due to this and the fact that the establishment have closed ranks (yes the SNP is the establishment in Scotland) , I really can’t see NS going anywhere. However, I do think she has been damaged and both her and the SNP will be tarnished for a long time. I doubt that it will make much difference to the SNP diehards. As one of the most worrying trends about this whole issue, is that you if you don’t blindly swallow the “official line” you will be shouted down by The National, or by SNP Fundamentalists. I think the whole debate could be dialled down a bit (on both sides), but I don’t find replies like “GIRFUY”, in your head rent free, Yoons or nonsense about MI5 plots moving the argument on. I believe on the whole that the vast majority of politicians in both Westminister and Scottish Parliament have went into politics to make a positive difference ( that includes Nic, Boris, and even Willie Rennie). I hope we have a hung Scottish Parliament so that all policies from all sides are debated to ensure the best outcome for all. After all the Scot Parliament was designed to be this way to stop undemocratic one party rule. Dogma and diatribe do not equal debate or democracy. | |||
"Pass the popcorn
It is ON!
Sweet or salty? "Sweet of course salt on popcorn is wrong.A bit like a Scot voting Tory  | |||
"Pass the popcorn
It is ON!
Sweet or salty?
Sweet of course salt on popcorn is wrong.A bit like a Scot voting Tory "Sweet popcorn for me too | |||
"Pass the popcorn
It is ON!
Sweet or salty?
Sweet of course salt on popcorn is wrong.A bit like a Scot voting Tory
Sweet popcorn for me too "Do want to go to the pictures then after grab a chippy and on to the dicoteque (after lockdown of course) I'll show you my moves | |||
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"Too many stupid people SNP whitewash again they are worse than tories hope labour gets it act together in west so they chase those fanatics back into the gutter where they belong worst drug problem in europe terrible school exam fiasco super hospitals millions over budget and behind time ferries for isles millions over budget and time common theme SNP are dangerous joke and till scottish people come to their senses and start holding these fanatics to account the better its not a game its our lives and money they are wasting away" Ha ha ha ha Labour who ? The SNP is mostly all ex Labour voters. How about you try beating the tories to second spot first before taking on the champions that is the SNP. 23/129 Scottish parliament seats. 1 that’s ONE Labour MP Must be hellish for Labour in 3rd spot | |||
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"just proved my point you think its a game so stupid brainwashed like most of the snp fanatics about right if they were ever serious of an indi Scotland they would come up with credible plans but cant or wont just like to blame anybody but there selves shortchanging Scotland for years." Who was in power when you went to school ? | |||
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"just proved my point you think its a game so stupid brainwashed like most of the snp fanatics about right if they were ever serious of an indi Scotland they would come up with credible plans but cant or wont just like to blame anybody but there selves shortchanging Scotland for years." So you think that anyone that has a different opinion from you that supports SNP is stupid ? Stop talking a lot of shite. People on the Forums are entitled to voice their opinions | |||
"For those questioning the integrity of James Hamilton they should consider Alex Salmond himself described him as honest and balanced. "Was that before or after the report was published?  | |||
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"For those questioning the integrity of James Hamilton they should consider Alex Salmond himself described him as honest and balanced.
Was that before or after the report was published? "Erm I’d put my mortgage on before | |||
"For those questioning the integrity of James Hamilton they should consider Alex Salmond himself described him as honest and balanced.
Was that before or after the report was published?
Erm I’d put my mortgage on before "I think you could be right... | |||
"Oh gonna be alot of wee feet stamping on here tonight
The fab right wing fraternity who know how guard statues but can manage to put an X in a box "Point of order, Dougie Ross has got them guarding wheelie bins now | |||
"Only opened this thread ‘cause we thought something exciting was happening in Hamilton ! x" | |||
"Oh gonna be alot of wee feet stamping on here tonight
The fab right wing fraternity who know how guard statues but can manage to put an X in a box
Point of order, Dougie Ross has got them guarding wheelie bins now "Is that the boy that's in Deacon blue and married to the dame out of River City? | |||
"One way or the other the plight of Nicola Sturgeon will be decided today by the publishing of the Hamilton Report. 'Watch this space so to speak' " How did it go? | |||
"Pass the popcorn
It is ON!
Sweet or salty?
Sweet of course salt on popcorn is wrong.A bit like a Scot voting Tory
Sweet popcorn for me too
Do want to go to the pictures then after grab a chippy and on to the dicoteque (after lockdown of course) I'll show you my moves "Chippy and a disco! Lucky me lol | |||
"Wee Nic might be cleared by the Hamilton report but its still to be cleared in the House of Fab Forum Court. I mean the SNP basherss are going to be pure ragin.. Aw well.. Hey, there you with the sad face come up to my place and give it up.. " | |||
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"Think some of the comments on here from snp supporters shows the true mentality of the snp do I mean good or bad you decide " Interested too hear what the true mentality is or is that because you're opinion is different from theirs.  | |||
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"In my opinion nothing is constructive from snp club on here if they want to change peoples mind set try telling us why unbelievable what I have heard on here tonight Hamilton has been employed by the snp goverment in the past in my opinion that was a bad choice surely there was better options who would have had there neutrality unquestionable " We’ll, he’s highly respected by his peers and maybe he’s someone who has professional integrity? Maybe read the report rather than fab comments if you need your ‘mind changed’ or are we going with ‘gut feel’ again as political discussion? | |||
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"Amazing what results get churned out when you appoint a former adviser to carry out an investigation into the party leader. Reminds me of the old GDR. Nothing to see here!!! Oh dear. Maybe we would do well to remember whose self confessed behaviour caused this investigation in the first place? I’ll say it again, evidence matters. Not feelings, or speculation, or Daily Mail headlines." That's been the problem around the evidence. It took threats of a no confidence motion to get some documents released. There's something getting covered up but I have no idea what it is or why. | |||
"Is the Scottish government not made up of elected members? That means Labour, SNP, Libdems, Conservatives, Greens and Independents. Surely they don’t all have ties to Hamilton?" James Hamilton was an advisor to the SNP a few years ago. He was appointed to his current role by Ms Sturgeon who renewed his contract. His report is heavily redacted and in his covering letter he states that it won't make sense if there are redactions. Apparently 81 of them. | |||
"Amazing what results get churned out when you appoint a former adviser to carry out an investigation into the party leader. Reminds me of the old GDR. Nothing to see here!!! Oh dear. Maybe we would do well to remember whose self confessed behaviour caused this investigation in the first place? I’ll say it again, evidence matters. Not feelings, or speculation, or Daily Mail headlines. That's been the problem around the evidence. It took threats of a no confidence motion to get some documents released. There's something getting covered up but I have no idea what it is or why." A Tory who has no seat in Scottish parliament simply meddling, Dougie Dross. A Tory ermine clad Davidson who’s running to the HOL A Tory who’s failed 7 times to be elected leaking committee to the press. (Alleged) Murdo Fraser. Will the same tories call for a VONC in Johnson who has broken the ministerial code and even lied to the Queen. The tories threw everything into this and hearing them scuttle back under their rocks is joyous. The VONC tonight is nothing more than the last gasps of a failed coup to dismantle Scotland’s parliament with the full onslaught of the British Media. After tomorrow parliament dissolves and the electorate will be ultimate judge and jury. | |||
"James Hamilton was an advisor to the SNP a few years ago. He was appointed to his current role by Ms Sturgeon who renewed his contract" Ross Greer MSP wrote: “Britain's dimmest right-wing grifters spreading a new conspiracy theory this evening. Fact check: No, James Hamilton was not a member of and advisor to the SNP. https://www.thenational.scot/news/19180231.twitter-backlash-tom-harwood-claims-james-hamilton-qc-member-snp/ | |||
"just proved my point you think its a game so stupid brainwashed like most of the snp fanatics about right if they were ever serious of an indi Scotland they would come up with credible plans but cant or wont just like to blame anybody but there selves shortchanging Scotland for years. Who was in power when you went to school ? " | |||
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"Correct but he is a paid employee of the snp is that neutral or not " Can you provide a link backing this claim up ? | |||
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"I'm sure that was purely coincidental "The look on her coopan | |||
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Davidson’s absolutely beeli’n as she pisses of for her ermine and unelected wages for life.
Good riddance | |||
"Nowt compared to her bowel movements I bet "I hate to be cleaning her cage out on a morning | |||
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"Hope she stays down in London .. plenty of arses for her to kiss "She hated Johnson until he promised her a cloak of the English realm and dark money. | |||
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"James Hamilton was an advisor to the SNP a few years ago. He was appointed to his current role by Ms Sturgeon who renewed his contract Ross Greer MSP wrote: “Britain's dimmest right-wing grifters spreading a new conspiracy theory this evening. Fact check: No, James Hamilton was not a member of and advisor to the SNP. https://www.thenational.scot/news/19180231.twitter-backlash-tom-harwood-claims-james-hamilton-qc-member-snp/ "It was actually on his Wikipedia page until it was all changed yesterday. | |||
"James Hamilton was an advisor to the SNP a few years ago. He was appointed to his current role by Ms Sturgeon who renewed his contract Ross Greer MSP wrote: “Britain's dimmest right-wing grifters spreading a new conspiracy theory this evening. Fact check: No, James Hamilton was not a member of and advisor to the SNP. https://www.thenational.scot/news/19180231.twitter-backlash-tom-harwood-claims-james-hamilton-qc-member-snp/
It was actually on his Wikipedia page until it was all changed yesterday."Which proves the point never trust wiki as the lazy journo found to his cost yesterday in the link above | |||
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"Ruth put back in her box beautifully "Davidson lost every national election to the SNP while she was Scottish Tory leader. She’s now running to London for the House of Lords scared at the real prospect of losing Edinburgh Central. Claiming over £300 a day just for turning up of tax payers money. Dougie Dross has a 100% losing record in Holyrood. He’s not even there yet.
Dross will be gone by Nov and replaced by Fraser who for 20 years has never won an election and bled nearly a million pound in the process.
The king of rejects rewarded handsomely. | |||
"Ruth put back in her box beautifully
Davidson lost every national election to the SNP while she was Scottish Tory leader.
She’s now running to London for the House of Lords scared at the real prospect of losing Edinburgh Central.
Claiming over £300 a day just for turning up of tax payers money.
Dougie Dross has a 100% losing record in Holyrood. He’s not even there yet.
Dross will be gone by Nov and replaced by Fraser who for 20 years has never won an election and bled nearly a million pound in the process.
The king of rejects rewarded handsomely. "Her face was a picture lol hopefully this now stops n we can get on with things | |||
"Ruth put back in her box beautifully
Davidson lost every national election to the SNP while she was Scottish Tory leader.
She’s now running to London for the House of Lords scared at the real prospect of losing Edinburgh Central.
Claiming over £300 a day just for turning up of tax payers money.
Dougie Dross has a 100% losing record in Holyrood. He’s not even there yet.
Dross will be gone by Nov and replaced by Fraser who for 20 years has never won an election and bled nearly a million pound in the process.
The king of rejects rewarded handsomely.
Her face was a picture lol hopefully this now stops n we can get on with things "With parliament dissolved the “opposition” will now face scrutiny, something they haven’t had to deal with. | |||
"Can you really trust anything you hear/read... we are drip fed what others think these days. So called facts and figures are manipulated on social media and news to give results that suit the needs of those that seek money, power and status. Morals are sadly lacking on the needs of both our beautiful planet and the things, people and creatures on it. Worse of all is the bickering and oneupmanship of bigotry, racism and a general lack of empathy for our fellow human beings. More time spent trying to work together solve the problems than fighting over what party did what when and the greed for personal power and money would be nice... unlikely but nice... rant over " | |||
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"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY ". Hamilton is a former member of the SNP and was appointed by Sturgeon to complete such a hachet task. 81 redactions says everything! it is a total cover up that only the ignorant and foolish will fall for. Nictator has to go! | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY . Hamilton is a former member of the SNP and was appointed by Sturgeon to complete such a hachet task. 81 redactions says everything! it is a total cover up that only the ignorant and foolish will fall for.
Nictator has to go! "Former member of the SNP ? Ok I’ll make this really simple. Back up your claims or retract | |||
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19179482.hamilton-report-cyber-vandals-alter-qcs-wiki-page/ | |||
"Can you really trust anything you hear/read... we are drip fed what others think these days. So called facts and figures are manipulated on social media and news to give results that suit the needs of those that seek money, power and status. Morals are sadly lacking on the needs of both our beautiful planet and the things, people and creatures on it. Worse of all is the bickering and oneupmanship of bigotry, racism and a general lack of empathy for our fellow human beings. More time spent trying to work together solve the problems than fighting over what party did what when and the greed for personal power and money would be nice... unlikely but nice... rant over "The fact someone wants to be an MP/MSP should bar them from doing so . | |||
"Can you really trust anything you hear/read... we are drip fed what others think these days. So called facts and figures are manipulated on social media and news to give results that suit the needs of those that seek money, power and status. Morals are sadly lacking on the needs of both our beautiful planet and the things, people and creatures on it. Worse of all is the bickering and oneupmanship of bigotry, racism and a general lack of empathy for our fellow human beings. More time spent trying to work together solve the problems than fighting over what party did what when and the greed for personal power and money would be nice... unlikely but nice... rant over
The fact someone wants to be an MP/MSP should bar them from doing so . "It should Steph... it should | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY . Hamilton is a former member of the SNP and was appointed by Sturgeon to complete such a hachet task. 81 redactions says everything! it is a total cover up that only the ignorant and foolish will fall for.
Nictator has to go! "He was never a member of the SNP. Ever. The redactions were people’s names. It is called privacy. Just accept this didn’t go the way your gut instinct/water/feeling in your bones predicted and give it a rest. | |||
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"Christ this is my das better than your das in an epic scale. Most if not every politician lies. It's in what scale and by how much they get found out. I'm sure Holyrood is reading all these comments with bated breath to see who comes out on top " | |||
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"Funny yet sad total cover up from word go and the usual SNP bores on here would believe anything like lemons just about as brainwashed as the Nazis were with Hitler anybody actually read the report clearly even the report doubted alot of sturgeon version of events but another great victory for Scottish nastie party doesnt matter even today more damaging reports about gap in education in Scotland just one of along list of cock ups but that will be everyone elses fault as usual the fanatics believe anything" Gap in education
Suck it up buttercup, Scotland is SNPeeeeee | |||
"Funny yet sad total cover up from word go and the usual SNP bores on here would believe anything like lemons just about as brainwashed as the Nazis were with Hitler anybody actually read the report clearly even the report doubted alot of sturgeon version of events but another great victory for Scottish nastie party doesnt matter even today more damaging reports about gap in education in Scotland just one of along list of cock ups but that will be everyone elses fault as usual the fanatics believe anything" I always feel that when someone compares the SNP and the people who vote for them to Hitler and nazi Germany, they have really lost the plot and argument. | |||
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"TRUTH hurts they are acting like that at moment i am very proud Scot but the SNP are fanatics and will never get my vote they have no credible plans just fantasy they cant back up " What makes you a proud scot ? | |||
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"TRUTH hurts they are acting like that at moment i am very proud Scot but the SNP are fanatics and will never get my vote they have no credible plans just fantasy they cant back up What makes you a proud scot ? " On the contrary. I'm an embarassed Scot. I'm embarrassed that cult members such as yourself are so ready to turn on your fellow countrymen. I've said it before and I will say it again, until folk like you change your antagonistic attitude then your independence dream will get absolutely nowhere whilst continue to divide the nation. People simply won't consider independence while it's current supporters are so full of animosity. | |||
"TRUTH hurts they are acting like that at moment i am very proud Scot but the SNP are fanatics and will never get my vote they have no credible plans just fantasy they cant back up What makes you a proud scot ? On the contrary. I'm an embarassed Scot. I'm embarrassed that cult members such as yourself are so ready to turn on your fellow countrymen. I've said it before and I will say it again, until folk like you change your antagonistic attitude then your independence dream will get absolutely nowhere whilst continue to divide the nation. People simply won't consider independence while it's current supporters are so full of animosity." This just looks daft given 3 unionist parties combined with the entire British media tried to take down your first minister and failed. Only the SNP stands up for Scotland. Your party is registered in London | |||
"TRUTH hurts they are acting like that at moment i am very proud Scot but the SNP are fanatics and will never get my vote they have no credible plans just fantasy they cant back up What makes you a proud scot ? On the contrary. I'm an embarassed Scot. I'm embarrassed that cult members such as yourself are so ready to turn on your fellow countrymen. I've said it before and I will say it again, until folk like you change your antagonistic attitude then your independence dream will get absolutely nowhere whilst continue to divide the nation. People simply won't consider independence while it's current supporters are so full of animosity." And what's your thoughts on comparing SNP voters to Nazis? Do you find that embarrassing also? | |||
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"TRUTH hurts they are acting like that at moment i am very proud Scot but the SNP are fanatics and will never get my vote they have no credible plans just fantasy they cant back up " And this justifies you comparing them to Nazis? You have lost the plot! | |||
"you had your once in a lifetime vote and lost" That’s not how democracy works. Tell us who you vote for ? | |||
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"Actually thats not fair the Nazis had credible plan and new what they were doing unlike the SCOTTISH NASTIE PARTY " What was the nazis credible plan then ? | |||
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"Did you not do history at school nasty little man with moustache this time nasty little woman with moustache " Ocht you're just making yourself look silly with comments like that | |||
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"no more silly than i asked for a credible indi plan still waiting sorry bad sense of humour" It wasn't humorous | |||
"no more silly than i asked for a credible indi plan still waiting sorry bad sense of humour" Perhaps familiarise yourself with forum rules and come back when you’ve calmed down after Nics obliterated all before her this week | |||
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"Still waiting ha ha cheerleaders with no plan jump over the cliff with nic " You know it’s coming embrace another 5 yrs | |||
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"Actually thats not fair the Nazis had credible plan and new what they were doing unlike the SCOTTISH NASTIE PARTY What was the nazis credible plan then ? " Still waiting ? | |||
"you had your once in a lifetime vote and lost That’s not how democracy works. Tell us who you vote for ? " Still waiting ? | |||
All very childish now | |||
"The minute name calling occurs they loose all credibility.
All very childish now"Sadly they walk amongst us | |||
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"Still waiting " This is how politics and democracy works. Parliament is dissolved, SNP return a majority come May the white paper and plan will be addressed. Pretty simple
If no majority SNP + Greens the Indy falls on its arse. | |||
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"Serious question - if yoy get Indy2 and it again brings back a no to independence...how long before Indy3? " Sake one thing at a time eh | |||
"Serious question - if yoy get Indy2 and it again brings back a no to independence...how long before Indy3? Sake one thing at a time eh "Sorry | |||
"Serious question - if yoy get Indy2 and it again brings back a no to independence...how long before Indy3? Sake one thing at a time eh
Sorry " | |||
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"Indy 3 that's the one with Sean Connery as his dad and the holy grail. "Oohhh thats my favourite too | |||
"Serious question - if yoy get Indy2 and it again brings back a no to independence...how long before Indy3? " 7 years, a generation in UK politics as defined by UK government. Good Friday agreement and confirmed at the despatch box by a government minister in the commons some years ago. | |||
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"Indy 3 that's the one with Sean Connery as his dad and the holy grail.
Oohhh thats my favourite too "I’ll third that | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories.
A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011.
He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government.
His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings.
Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
According to his Wikipedia page he first worked for the SG in 2013 (appointed by Salmond no less) and then was reappointed in 2015 by Sturgeon.
The National states that he was appointed to carry out this inquiry by Sturgeon.
He has clearly worked very closely with her and presumably wasn’t doing it for free (i.e. was on the payroll of a SNP-led government).
Does that make him independent and impartial..?
"by that logic every civil servant and local government employee in scotland for the last how many years must be an snp supporter since they were technically on the payroll of an snp led government (ps i dont vote snp but a crap argument is a crap argument) when it comes to politics you could literally find something about absolutely anyone to try link to bias - wether it be their own politics, in this case their historic employment (although it seems both sturgeon and salmond employed him so if anything that seems even), even if you plucked someone from england with no connections people would say well they dont want scottish independence so thats a bias - at some point you have to trust in peoples professionalism | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories.
A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011.
He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government.
His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings.
Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
According to his Wikipedia page he first worked for the SG in 2013 (appointed by Salmond no less) and then was reappointed in 2015 by Sturgeon.
The National states that he was appointed to carry out this inquiry by Sturgeon.
He has clearly worked very closely with her and presumably wasn’t doing it for free (i.e. was on the payroll of a SNP-led government).
Does that make him independent and impartial..?
by that logic every civil servant and local government employee in scotland for the last how many years must be an snp supporter since they were technically on the payroll of an snp led government
(ps i dont vote snp but a crap argument is a crap argument)
when it comes to politics you could literally find something about absolutely anyone to try link to bias - wether it be their own politics, in this case their historic employment (although it seems both sturgeon and salmond employed him so if anything that seems even), even if you plucked someone from england with no connections people would say well they dont want scottish independence so thats a bias - at some point you have to trust in peoples professionalism "Yip you have to. While the resign resign mob are in full flow, why would anyone with a modicum of sense enter politics. Its a shite job with shite pay to listen to people tell you constant you are shite. Place is full of mouths who think politics is an easy ride...Ill leave the politicians to politict same as I leave the mechanic to fix my car ....they know better | |||
"Ruth put back in her box beautifully
Davidson lost every national election to the SNP while she was Scottish Tory leader.
She’s now running to London for the House of Lords scared at the real prospect of losing Edinburgh Central.
Claiming over £300 a day just for turning up of tax payers money.
Dougie Dross has a 100% losing record in Holyrood. He’s not even there yet.
Dross will be gone by Nov and replaced by Fraser who for 20 years has never won an election and bled nearly a million pound in the process.
The king of rejects rewarded handsomely. "At least at the House of Lords you actually have to turn up to get the money unlike Derek MacKay who went AWOL over a year ago, never to be seen again but still gets a £64,000 salary plus expense and a taxpayer funded grant in May as he will be leaving the Holyrood. If you are a councillor and don't turn up for 6 months then you get kicked out. Why can't that be implemented for everyone? | |||
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"Ruth put back in her box beautifully
Davidson lost every national election to the SNP while she was Scottish Tory leader.
She’s now running to London for the House of Lords scared at the real prospect of losing Edinburgh Central.
Claiming over £300 a day just for turning up of tax payers money.
Dougie Dross has a 100% losing record in Holyrood. He’s not even there yet.
Dross will be gone by Nov and replaced by Fraser who for 20 years has never won an election and bled nearly a million pound in the process.
The king of rejects rewarded handsomely.
At least at the House of Lords you actually have to turn up to get the money unlike Derek MacKay who went AWOL over a year ago, never to be seen again but still gets a £64,000 salary plus expense and a taxpayer funded grant in May as he will be leaving the Holyrood.
If you are a councillor and don't turn up for 6 months then you get kicked out. Why can't that be implemented for everyone?"Can’t disagree with any of the above other than the HOL should be abolished. “List” seats should carry a maximum 2 term tenure to prevent the likes of Murdo Fraser being continually rewarded for failure. | |||
"CLEARED! The independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton find that Nic did NOT break the Ministerial Code unlike the clown Johnson, Pritel and Hancock who DID and continue to lie and break ministerial code. GIRFUY
Is that the independent, non-partisan, investigation led by James Hamilton who was previously employed by the SNP and was appointed to carry out the investigation by Nicola Sturgeon?
Turkeys don’t tend to vote for Christmas...
The whole thing stinks and the SNP are no more trustworthy than the Tories.
A barrister by trade, he rose to become the Director of Public Prosecutions for the Republic of Ireland, a role which he held between 1999 and 2011.
He was then appointed by the Scottish Government as an independent advisor in 2011, and also holds the same role for the Welsh Government.
His position is to enable transparency and an independent viewpoint in matters which are perhaps sensitive or need to be handled without the interference of political leanings.
Maybe read up on him instead when dry eyes return.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/who-is-james-hamilton-and-why-is-his-report-so-important-to-first-minister-nicola-sturgeons-future-3174136
According to his Wikipedia page he first worked for the SG in 2013 (appointed by Salmond no less) and then was reappointed in 2015 by Sturgeon.
The National states that he was appointed to carry out this inquiry by Sturgeon.
He has clearly worked very closely with her and presumably wasn’t doing it for free (i.e. was on the payroll of a SNP-led government).
Does that make him independent and impartial..?
by that logic every civil servant and local government employee in scotland for the last how many years must be an snp supporter since they were technically on the payroll of an snp led government
(ps i dont vote snp but a crap argument is a crap argument)
when it comes to politics you could literally find something about absolutely anyone to try link to bias - wether it be their own politics, in this case their historic employment (although it seems both sturgeon and salmond employed him so if anything that seems even), even if you plucked someone from england with no connections people would say well they dont want scottish independence so thats a bias - at some point you have to trust in peoples professionalism "The difference being that it was not any old civil servant or local government employee in Scotland that was being asked to pass judgement on whether or not NS broke the Ministerial Code. Instead, it was someone that she personally employed as an advisor and who she presumably worked very closely with. Personally, the fact that she made the appointment herself doesn’t sit well and I’m surprised that she didn’t go out of her way to ensure that everything appeared 100% independent and impartial. Ultimately, it is neither here nor there now as the matter is effectively closed. As has been said before the electorate will now decide what happens next. | |||
"I wonder wit wee ruthies gonna say now.. or she too busy thinking of her title in the Lords ... Baroness hypocrisy
The same Ruth the Mooth who said she’d never work with Johnson ?
Amazing what cronyism does and being made a dame of the English Realm.
A traitor to scotland. Sold out for ermine and gold.
A Scottish voice in the big hoose and they complain Unreal "Surely your not naive enough to think that Ruth Davidson will actually give Scotland a voice in the House of Lords? lol | |||
"it was someone that she personally employed as an advisor and who she presumably worked very closely with. Personally, the fact that she made the appointment herself doesn’t sit well and I’m surprised that she didn’t go out of her way to ensure that everything appeared 100% independent and impartial." The qualified barrister was first appointed as an independent adviser to the Scottish Government’s Ministerial Code in 2013 by former first minister Alex Salmond and reappointed by Ms Sturgeon in 2015. Context is important | |||
"it was someone that she personally employed as an advisor and who she presumably worked very closely with. Personally, the fact that she made the appointment herself doesn’t sit well and I’m surprised that she didn’t go out of her way to ensure that everything appeared 100% independent and impartial. The qualified barrister was first appointed as an independent adviser to the Scottish Government’s Ministerial Code in 2013 by former first minister Alex Salmond and reappointed by Ms Sturgeon in 2015. Context is important "Yeah, great point. Think it’s pretty harsh to question Hamilton’s integrity here x | |||
"it was someone that she personally employed as an advisor and who she presumably worked very closely with. Personally, the fact that she made the appointment herself doesn’t sit well and I’m surprised that she didn’t go out of her way to ensure that everything appeared 100% independent and impartial. The qualified barrister was first appointed as an independent adviser to the Scottish Government’s Ministerial Code in 2013 by former first minister Alex Salmond and reappointed by Ms Sturgeon in 2015. Context is important
Yeah, great point. Think it’s pretty harsh to question Hamilton’s integrity here x"I think my point may be being missed here. For me, to appoint someone who you previously employed to advise you and your Government on the Ministerial Code and then ask the same person to decide if you’ve broken it seems like a conflict of interests. I’m not necessarily questioning his integrity however his appointment doesn’t really give me confidence regarding the transparency of the whole process. Just my opinion. Others will obviously disagree. | |||
"it was someone that she personally employed as an advisor and who she presumably worked very closely with. Personally, the fact that she made the appointment herself doesn’t sit well and I’m surprised that she didn’t go out of her way to ensure that everything appeared 100% independent and impartial. The qualified barrister was first appointed as an independent adviser to the Scottish Government’s Ministerial Code in 2013 by former first minister Alex Salmond and reappointed by Ms Sturgeon in 2015. Context is important
Yeah, great point. Think it’s pretty harsh to question Hamilton’s integrity here x
I think my point may be being missed here. For me, to appoint someone who you previously employed to advise you and your Government on the Ministerial Code and then ask the same person to decide if you’ve broken it seems like a conflict of interests. I’m not necessarily questioning his integrity however his appointment doesn’t really give me confidence regarding the transparency of the whole process.
Just my opinion.
Others will obviously disagree. "i would say the opposite, someone who advises on the ministerial code knows it inside out - seems like the perfect candidate to assess if it has been broken, unless he was a current advisor and it was his own advice he was assessing | |||
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"it was someone that she personally employed as an advisor and who she presumably worked very closely with. Personally, the fact that she made the appointment herself doesn’t sit well and I’m surprised that she didn’t go out of her way to ensure that everything appeared 100% independent and impartial. The qualified barrister was first appointed as an independent adviser to the Scottish Government’s Ministerial Code in 2013 by former first minister Alex Salmond and reappointed by Ms Sturgeon in 2015. Context is important
Yeah, great point. Think it’s pretty harsh to question Hamilton’s integrity here x
I think my point may be being missed here. For me, to appoint someone who you previously employed to advise you and your Government on the Ministerial Code and then ask the same person to decide if you’ve broken it seems like a conflict of interests. I’m not necessarily questioning his integrity however his appointment doesn’t really give me confidence regarding the transparency of the whole process.
Just my opinion.
Others will obviously disagree.
i would say the opposite, someone who advises on the ministerial code knows it inside out - seems like the perfect candidate to assess if it has been broken, unless he was a current advisor and it was his own advice he was assessing "I agree they will know the MC inside out but that doesn’t negate a possible conflict of interests through the previous associations mentioned. I’m sure the MC isn’t that complicated that another suitably qualified person couldn’t have undertaken the role. As I say, it’s just my opinion and what I would have preferred to ensure transparency and impartiality that is beyond question. | |||
"Ruth put back in her box beautifully
Davidson lost every national election to the SNP while she was Scottish Tory leader.
She’s now running to London for the House of Lords scared at the real prospect of losing Edinburgh Central.
Claiming over £300 a day just for turning up of tax payers money.
Dougie Dross has a 100% losing record in Holyrood. He’s not even there yet.
Dross will be gone by Nov and replaced by Fraser who for 20 years has never won an election and bled nearly a million pound in the process.
The king of rejects rewarded handsomely.
At least at the House of Lords you actually have to turn up to get the money unlike Derek MacKay who went AWOL over a year ago, never to be seen again but still gets a £64,000 salary plus expense and a taxpayer funded grant in May as he will be leaving the Holyrood.
If you are a councillor and don't turn up for 6 months then you get kicked out. Why can't that be implemented for everyone?"And that is all you have to do is turn up sign the register then you can jump back in to the same taxi you came in and get to hell away again or you can just head to one of the taxpayer subsidised bars and get pissed while collecting your tax free £300+ or maybe even snooze all day. Which is what many of that unelected outdated mob do. | |||
