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"Anyone watching the Hollyrood enquiry? thoughts?I've many thoughts if anything it's confirmed them  "
Confirmation bias 
Lovers going to hear that she innocent and wonderful.
Haters going to hear that she's a liar and not fit for office. |
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over a year ago
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Car crash TV at its best. I switched off after a while. The look on her face was priceless and even though she had a couple of folders full of papers in front of her she never really referred to them much. Gave me the impression she wasn't very organised as she was going more by her memory, albeit selective. We'll wait and see what comes of this x |
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For someone who’s held such a high and powerful position for so long she doesn’t seem to know what’s been happening round about her.
She’s spoke of lately about how she can’t wait to tell the enquiry her side of events but all we’ve had is "I can't recall", "I can't remember", "I'm unsure" and "I'd have to check"
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"Saw a bit of Salmond last week - very organised and with it.
Watched a bit of Sturgeon today - didnt know what the time was."
Could be Salmond has all the time In The day to be organised. And she is running a country though a pandemic (I am not an SNP voter).. Just think as a person who works full time how hard it is to give detail to everything at times |
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"Saw a bit of Salmond last week - very organised and with it.
Watched a bit of Sturgeon today - didnt know what the time was.
Could be Salmond has all the time In The day to be organised. And she is running a country though a pandemic (I am not an SNP voter).. Just think as a person who works full time how hard it is to give detail to everything at times "
you seriously don't think it's strange she completely forgot a meeting one day but 4 days later she has a photographic memory(also not an snp voter and not a Conservative either as some seem determined I am) |
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it is pretty clear she is a Narcissistic liar with no conscience and very much staged answers coached by her team of spin doctors. The rigged committee is a total joke with the SNP members totally inept questioning. No doubt this is far from over and shows the SNP for what they are, Vile and Oppressive obstructors of justice. |
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"Saw a bit of Salmond last week - very organised and with it.
Watched a bit of Sturgeon today - didnt know what the time was.
Could be Salmond has all the time In The day to be organised. And she is running a country though a pandemic (I am not an SNP voter).. Just think as a person who works full time how hard it is to give detail to everything at times you seriously don't think it's strange she completely forgot a meeting one day but 4 days later she has a photographic memory(also not an snp voter and not a Conservative either as some seem determined I am) "
The clip doing the rounds on Twitter and Facebook of her comments today and comments on The Andrew Marr Show confirm and compound she is a liar.
We either have a liar in office or a complete incompetent who doesn’t know whether it’s Shrove Tuesday or Sheffield Wednesday. |
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"it is pretty clear she is a Narcissistic liar with no conscience and very much staged answers coached by her team of spin doctors. The rigged committee is a total joke with the SNP members totally inept questioning. No doubt this is far from over and shows the SNP for what they are, Vile and Oppressive obstructors of justice. "
Fabiani was out of order, Sturgeon is her gaffer. Just as, if memory serves me right, I think it was Margaret Mitchell was getting the crux of things and she tried cut her off.
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"Saw a bit of Salmond last week - very organised and with it.
Watched a bit of Sturgeon today - didnt know what the time was.
Could be Salmond has all the time In The day to be organised. And she is running a country though a pandemic (I am not an SNP voter).. Just think as a person who works full time how hard it is to give detail to everything at times you seriously don't think it's strange she completely forgot a meeting one day but 4 days later she has a photographic memory(also not an snp voter and not a Conservative either as some seem determined I am) "
It's called stirring it up and everyone rises to the bait, personally I couldn't give a flying f###, |
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Been a total witch hunt, makes me laugh all hatred directed to salmond and now they believe every word that he is saying.... the man escaped the charges by the skin of his teeth and is now targeting his prodigy coz she is way more popular than he ever was.... |
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"Saw a bit of Salmond last week - very organised and with it.
Watched a bit of Sturgeon today - didnt know what the time was.
Could be Salmond has all the time In The day to be organised. And she is running a country though a pandemic (I am not an SNP voter).. Just think as a person who works full time how hard it is to give detail to everything at times you seriously don't think it's strange she completely forgot a meeting one day but 4 days later she has a photographic memory(also not an snp voter and not a Conservative either as some seem determined I am)
It's called stirring it up and everyone rises to the bait, personally I couldn't give a flying f###, "
lol sorry went right over my head |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All politicians are lying self centered scum bags.
Only in it for themselves, Tories for sure
SNP don't seem to be a United party tbf.
They knew about Salmonds antics a long time ago and hushed it up
All they care about is votes, watch NS speed up unlock so we can vote for her or the SNP.
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I actually thought someone had stuck a few drawing pins on her seat looking at her coupon.
Probably the only prick she has had since the covid jab.
Salmond just wants to bring the while house of cards down though.
Hope they are both proud of the way they have made our country look.
Very convenient for the english media too as we looked well on our game the past year compared to Boris. |
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She was flapping about with her selective memory. She is wounded and knows a lot of her own party are now less than loyal to her as leader.They will be jostling in the background now viewing her as a leader in trouble. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Probably the only prick she has had since the covid jab.
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What's that got to do with the price of fish?
I'll feel quite disappointed for her if she goes.
Politics really is a dirty game at times |
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"Been a total witch hunt, makes me laugh all hatred directed to salmond and now they believe every word that he is saying.... the man escaped the charges by the skin of his teeth and is now targeting his prodigy coz she is way more popular than he ever was...."
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Thankfully it’s pushing up membership. The opposition parties are nothing but shouting bullies. The ugliness of politics shining through. Awful way to conduct things  |
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"Thankfully it’s pushing up membership. The opposition parties are nothing but shouting bullies. The ugliness of politics shining through. Awful way to conduct things "
I think if you stop looking through your rose-tinted spectacles you'll see that this issue relates to:
1. A former first minister and
2. The current First minister.
Both I hasten to add from the same political party and one of them recognised and accused as being a workplace bully.
Therefore, it's a tad naive of you in your statement to expect anything other than other political parties to challenge her They would be failing as the opposition to ignore and not challenge perceived wrongdoings and that would be a failure on their part.
The results of the independent inquiry will either be the ultimate nail in the coffin or her savior. |
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But it's not truly independent. 4 SNP, 1 tame Green and 4 others so Sturgeon has had a majority in her favour from day 1.
It would be difficult for and of the SNP members to take Sturgeon to task as she is their boss and it would cripple any hopes of advancement.
It should have been a judicial enquiry in front of a judge with real powers. |
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"Thankfully it’s pushing up membership. The opposition parties are nothing but shouting bullies. The ugliness of politics shining through. Awful way to conduct things
I think if you stop looking through your rose-tinted spectacles you'll see that this issue relates to:
1. A former first minister and
2. The current First minister.
Both I hasten to add from the same political party and one of them recognised and accused as being a workplace bully.
Therefore, it's a tad naive of you in your statement to expect anything other than other political parties to challenge her They would be failing as the opposition to ignore and not challenge perceived wrongdoings and that would be a failure on their part.
The results of the independent inquiry will either be the ultimate nail in the coffin or her savior."
There’s challenging and there’s abuse by the way they conduct themselves in the process. Yes wrong doings should be accounted for which she has made herself accountable. Every interview, every interview, every parliamentary debate she is interrupted talked over and shouted at a never listened to and today was no different |
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This enquiry is doing a number of things, showing that there is civil war within the SNP and a party divides isn’t a party at all, reducing the confidence in people to want to vote for an independent Scotland, because of the ruling party can’t control its own members then what chance have they of leading a country through what will be a difficult transition to independence. There also appears to be an enquiry on Swinney the deputy so that will further screw the confidence of the people. I think it’s sink or swim time especially with elections coming up, the SNP are under extreme pressure and may crack. Many people criticise Nicola Sturgeon for not being proactive during this pandemic but why, just let bumbling Boris make all the mistakes and she then corrects them for Scotland to keep her people safe. She’s done well to keep so many people alive in a country that’s part of a union of countries that has seen so many deaths. |
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"This enquiry is doing a number of things, showing that there is civil war within the SNP and a party divides isn’t a party at all, reducing the confidence in people to want to vote for an independent Scotland, because of the ruling party can’t control its own members then what chance have they of leading a country through what will be a difficult transition to independence. There also appears to be an enquiry on Swinney the deputy so that will further screw the confidence of the people. I think it’s sink or swim time especially with elections coming up, the SNP are under extreme pressure and may crack. Many people criticise Nicola Sturgeon for not being proactive during this pandemic but why, just let bumbling Boris make all the mistakes and she then corrects them for Scotland to keep her people safe. She’s done well to keep so many people alive in a country that’s part of a union of countries that has seen so many deaths. "
It's one area, I will grant you she is trying to make best if an awful situation, but scratch the surface and other aspects of the country and governance is a mess, éducation, NHS, local councils, local services cut to the bine, town centres decimated way before the pandemic, so really this party has not aceived what the said they would, I have never seen such chaos, roads are a mess, rubbish lying around, flooding as roads not cleaned regularly, transport bus services in areas of the cou try that's quite frankly expensive and limited, I could go on, I am disappointed in the SNP after voting for them that they have not delivered, I would much rather they focused on their promises than another referendum, I have no faith in conservatives or Labour this country is becoming a sad state of affairs which is sad as we as a nation have so much to offer  |
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"This enquiry is doing a number of things, showing that there is civil war within the SNP and a party divides isn’t a party at all, reducing the confidence in people to want to vote for an independent Scotland, because of the ruling party can’t control its own members then what chance have they of leading a country through what will be a difficult transition to independence. There also appears to be an enquiry on Swinney the deputy so that will further screw the confidence of the people. I think it’s sink or swim time especially with elections coming up, the SNP are under extreme pressure and may crack. Many people criticise Nicola Sturgeon for not being proactive during this pandemic but why, just let bumbling Boris make all the mistakes and she then corrects them for Scotland to keep her people safe. She’s done well to keep so many people alive in a country that’s part of a union of countries that has seen so many deaths.
It's one area, I will grant you she is trying to make best if an awful situation, but scratch the surface and other aspects of the country and governance is a mess, éducation, NHS, local councils, local services cut to the bine, town centres decimated way before the pandemic, so really this party has not aceived what the said they would, I have never seen such chaos, roads are a mess, rubbish lying around, flooding as roads not cleaned regularly, transport bus services in areas of the cou try that's quite frankly expensive and limited, I could go on, I am disappointed in the SNP after voting for them that they have not delivered, I would much rather they focused on their promises than another referendum, I have no faith in conservatives or Labour this country is becoming a sad state of affairs which is sad as we as a nation have so much to offer "
You're right. They have headline policies such as free prescriptions but the nitty gritty of our daily lives are a shambles. Too many point the finger and blame Westminster for it though whereas they should really be stepping back, taking a good look and think and asking if the SNP are really capable of delivering |
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The withheld papers which after threat of no confidence vote appeared in part This committee has no power and is SNP weighted The crown office prosecutor in the back ground to silence known facts The meeting she forgot was requested by her ( or her many expensive Minnion’s) Creating new rules and back dating there effectiveness Not allowing arbitration and not offering same to the complainers Total witch hunt making Sleezy Salmond look like a saint Bye bye independence (within Europe ? ) for another generation ! |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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Basically, we need the opposition parties to get their acts together, and provide a proper opposition to the SNP, although excepting the pathetic, utopian Green party.
The Greens prop the SNP up when necessary, in exchange for some crazy, dream scheme which will never be realised. |
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Let's not forget it was Boris's UK government, the MHRA and UK scientists who got us the vaccines way ahead of any other nation Europe (Massive success) and more progressive releasing lockdown. The EU vaccination stats are pathetic and there are riots occuring because of it all.
it is the UK that has put up the money to support us all. While the SNP have hidden nearly a £1bn for their insidious aims and tried to delay vaccine roll out to raise a grievance against the UK.
The SNP are the most oppressive regime in the western world. They don't give a shit about you or any or us.... |
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"Let's not forget it was Boris's UK government, the MHRA and UK scientists who got us the vaccines way ahead of any other nation Europe (Massive success) and more progressive releasing lockdown. The EU vaccination stats are pathetic and there are riots occuring because of it all.
it is the UK that has put up the money to support us all. While the SNP have hidden nearly a £1bn for their insidious aims and tried to delay vaccine roll out to raise a grievance against the UK.
The SNP are the most oppressive regime in the western world. They don't give a shit about you or any or us.... "
That's pretty harsh , even though I'm not a fan of the snp I still think harsh but I do agree with lots of what you say. |
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I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
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By *wiftieeMan
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2."
They're obviously delusionists!!
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Just popped in for the yoon tears.
7,500 new members in 24 hours
Sturgeon bounce at the polls.
If you want to bring down the FM by putting her on the spot, don’t televise it.
Nicola Sturgeon has been interrogated for longer over an internal inquiry than
Blair over Iraq
Trump over everything
Johnson over everything
Hancock over illegal contracts
Proud as fuck to have Nicola as our First Minister.
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
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Hahaha. Yes, that happened. Your posts are priceless. You’re the type of miserable guy that makes me want my wee country to stand as one again, be outward looking, voting for parties who are Scottish and making the best decisions for Scotland. |
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"Let's not forget it was Boris's UK government, the MHRA and UK scientists who got us the vaccines way ahead of any other nation Europe (Massive success) and more progressive releasing lockdown. The EU vaccination stats are pathetic and there are riots occuring because of it all.
it is the UK that has put up the money to support us all. While the SNP have hidden nearly a £1bn for their insidious aims and tried to delay vaccine roll out to raise a grievance against the UK.
The SNP are the most oppressive regime in the western world. They don't give a shit about you or any or us.... "
Do you make that up as you go along? I’d love to see your sources…..still, keep winding yourself up over it all. Those of us who ‘give a shit’ will continue to vote in more and more numbers until the inevitable Independence Day.
It was private business that developed the vaccines. I’ve no doubt many of the scientists were Scottish, English, Welsh, French, German etc. |
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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago
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The SNP have never still yet provided the general Scottish public with a viable economic plan to enable people make an true informed choice.
Everything has built up 0n Hate.
Hate of Westminster, Hate of the English ( who they blame for Westminster)
Politicians all 0ver the world including In Scotland & UK have shown themselves to be corrupt & its all about them & about having power.
8 keep hearing that in Scotland we can just vote them out if we don't like the Govt.
But that the same in the UK there are more general ( old classed working class) people than the rich but it doesn't work that way.
What makes you think Scotland will be any different? |
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So apparently sturgeon is shite, not fit for office?
So whats our options....douglas ross? Anas sarwar? Willie rennie?
Becareful what you wish for. That woman probably deals with more in a week than most of us deal with in a year. |
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"So apparently sturgeon is shite, not fit for office?
So whats our options....douglas ross? Anas sarwar? Willie rennie?
Becareful what you wish for. That woman probably deals with more in a week than most of us deal with in a year. "
So folk should keep quiet and accept whatever because she's the best of a bad bunch? |
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"So apparently sturgeon is shite, not fit for office?
So whats our options....douglas ross? Anas sarwar? Willie rennie?
Becareful what you wish for. That woman probably deals with more in a week than most of us deal with in a year.
So folk should keep quiet and accept whatever because she's the best of a bad bunch?"
Absolutely not. Every politician should be held to account but look at some of the comments on here and other platforms, there is holding to account and there is down right bile and hatred. |
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The vaccines were paid for and made for british central goverment fact scotland as indi country would never have the monies or means to borrow the billions on the markets to make these and if we were in europe with nippys pals very likely we would have not many vaccines at all snp only pedal hate instead of praising westminster for getting right for once also i am sure many scots helped make these |
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"The vaccines were paid for and made for british central goverment fact scotland as indi country would never have the monies or means to borrow the billions on the markets to make these and if we were in europe with nippys pals very likely we would have not many vaccines at all snp only pedal hate instead of praising westminster for getting right for once also i am sure many scots helped make these "
Hahaha, where the fuck do you think Westminster got the money? Hahaha |
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I dont hate anyone and dont find snp fanatics funny at all they are very dangerous. They cant even agree with each other all they do is hate tell lies make an arse of running the country they blame everybody else for everything even tho they have been in power for years, treat Scotland like its a big game their right they have no credible policies for finance and call for democracy they had there chance for independant Scotland and we voted no its time to move on and run the country properly |
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Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters! |
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Yet again she has been exposed as a liar today during the Nicola Sturgeon Show. Both Pinocchio and Calamity Jeane have been misleading the public by saying they have vaccinated over 400,000 in a week when it is only 392,000.
Liars gonnae lie. |
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There aint half some crazy ass views and expanations on why poor wee scotland cant be its own country. I wonder how on earth other countries who are not sucking off the teat of england manage to be successful? Its truely baffling. |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!"
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds? |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds? "
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please. |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please."
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go? |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?"
Why would they not exchange abroad?
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
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But why would they exchange twice? |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?"
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender. |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender."
When did London become abroad? |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"I dont hate anyone and dont find snp fanatics funny at all they are very dangerous. They cant even agree with each other all they do is hate tell lies make an arse of running the country they blame everybody else for everything even tho they have been in power for years, treat Scotland like its a big game their right they have no credible policies for finance and call for democracy they had there chance for independant Scotland and we voted no its time to move on and run the country properly"
Hear hear. |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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"Must say i love threads like this.
The SNP haters on here are so bitter they a constant source of amusement "
The sad SNP supporters on here are not amusing, I see them as dangerous people, sucked in by this discredited SNP government. |
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"Must say i love threads like this.
The SNP haters on here are so bitter they a constant source of amusement
The sad SNP supporters on here are not amusing, I see them as dangerous people, sucked in by this discredited SNP government."
Always in the shadows of the SNP, suck it up buttercup. |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender."
You obviously know nada about fiscal policy’s |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.
You obviously know nada about fiscal policy’s "
Is that so? |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds? "
they are spending pounds sterling the point the poster was making is other countries usually don't accept notes from bank of Scotland. Wales Ireland they don't handle it as their reference books and examples are bank of england scotland does not have a currency which is another thorn in the snp side they they have never answered |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
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Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?"
you get far better exchange rates in a target country eg thailand right now you will get 3700 Thai bhat to 10 pounds Stirling exchange in Thailand you will get 4200 |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender."
yes they are it's pounds sterling any person in any part of the UK can refuse a note thet they don't recognise that doesn't make it illegal tender simply exchange it at a bank (another method of proof here your note is changed on a 1 for one basis) to a more recognisable note for the people of that area. As an example in Newcastle you will have no problems with Scottish notes as folk there are used to handling them. |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.yes they are it's pounds sterling any person in any part of the UK can refuse a note thet they don't recognise that doesn't make it illegal tender simply exchange it at a bank (another method of proof here your note is changed on a 1 for one basis) to a more recognisable note for the people of that area. As an example in Newcastle you will have no problems with Scottish notes as folk there are used to handling them. "
They aren’t even legal tender in Scotland. There’s a difference between legal currency and legal tender. |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.yes they are it's pounds sterling any person in any part of the UK can refuse a note thet they don't recognise that doesn't make it illegal tender simply exchange it at a bank (another method of proof here your note is changed on a 1 for one basis) to a more recognisable note for the people of that area. As an example in Newcastle you will have no problems with Scottish notes as folk there are used to handling them.
They aren’t even legal tender in Scotland. There’s a difference between legal currency and legal tender."
Nor are English notes for that matter. |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.
You obviously know nada about fiscal policy’s
Is that so?"
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.
You obviously know nada about fiscal policy’s
Is that so?
Aye "
For someone who likes people to think they are intelligent and intellectual perhaps you could try and educate yourself before commenting |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.
You obviously know nada about fiscal policy’s
Is that so?
Aye
For someone who likes people to think they are intelligent and intellectual perhaps you could try and educate yourself before commenting "
So today in Toryland we have Philip Rutnam, the civil servant in the Priti Patel bullying row, awarded £340,000 of public money. And a Court ruling that Boris Johnson has misled Parliament and withheld 100 pages of COVID evidence. |
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it is shite as well (and they should be invedtigated and sacked too), but in no way does it somehow make what sturgeon and her SNPnatz has done somehow OK. They are despicable |
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"it is shite as well (and they should be invedtigated and sacked too), but in no way does it somehow make what sturgeon and her SNPnatz has done somehow OK. They are despicable"
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.yes they are it's pounds sterling any person in any part of the UK can refuse a note thet they don't recognise that doesn't make it illegal tender simply exchange it at a bank (another method of proof here your note is changed on a 1 for one basis) to a more recognisable note for the people of that area. As an example in Newcastle you will have no problems with Scottish notes as folk there are used to handling them.
They aren’t even legal tender in Scotland. There’s a difference between legal currency and legal tender."
I know you want to get really technical neither are debit/credit cards Infact if you really want to push at it basically only royal mint coins are tender and in the terms of the word tender you can only pay exact amounts (as there is no requirement to give change) I believe you know fine and well what the user was saying but attempted to try and be clever about it. Most folk use the word tender instead of currency even the buttons on registers have it!
All you had to say was all pounds Stirling are legal currency but if ain the course of a transaction one person doesn't recognise the note they can ask for a recognisable note to them. |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.
You obviously know nada about fiscal policy’s
Is that so?
Aye
For someone who likes people to think they are intelligent and intellectual perhaps you could try and educate yourself before commenting
So today in Toryland we have Philip Rutnam, the civil servant in the Priti Patel bullying row, awarded £340,000 of public money. And a Court ruling that Boris Johnson has misled Parliament and withheld 100 pages of COVID evidence. "
Classic separist deflection. |
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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago
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As I've said before ALL Politicians are corrupt and in it for themselves rather than the people they meant to serve.
In previous times Politicians came from the local communities they stood for, whereas now they find a seat hundred of miles away that their Party can win, so it purely to promote their own careers and earning possibilities inside & outside politics.
We can't trust ANY of them whether SNP, Labour, Tory or whatever.
Expenses, Covid breaches, pay rises, misleading parliament, and many more has shown the public that it not only a few but the majority 8nvolved.
Trust any politician at your own peril |
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"seems snp membership has rose 10% today,looks like a lot of ppl seen it differently me included than most on here "
genuine interest here no trying to challenge just understand - why would a shit show of in fighting where at least one of them is a liar make you want to join their party? |
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"But it's not truly independent. 4 SNP, 1 tame Green and 4 others so Sturgeon has had a majority in her favour from day 1.
It would be difficult for and of the SNP members to take Sturgeon to task as she is their boss and it would cripple any hopes of advancement.
It should have been a judicial enquiry in front of a judge with real powers."
that might be a fair statement if it was snp vs conservative investigation
but its snp vs snp (i know its not actually sturgeon vs salmond snd that over simplifies it but it is snp government vs salmond) |
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"Thankfully it’s pushing up membership. The opposition parties are nothing but shouting bullies. The ugliness of politics shining through. Awful way to conduct things
I think if you stop looking through your rose-tinted spectacles you'll see that this issue relates to:
1. A former first minister and
2. The current First minister.
Both I hasten to add from the same political party and one of them recognised and accused as being a workplace bully.
Therefore, it's a tad naive of you in your statement to expect anything other than other political parties to challenge her They would be failing as the opposition to ignore and not challenge perceived wrongdoings and that would be a failure on their part.
The results of the independent inquiry will either be the ultimate nail in the coffin or her savior.
There’s challenging and there’s abuse by the way they conduct themselves in the process. Yes wrong doings should be accounted for which she has made herself accountable. Every interview, every interview, every parliamentary debate she is interrupted talked over and shouted at a never listened to and today was no different "
thats uk politics - i dont agree with it in the slightest - but both parliaments are just a shouting match rather than any real skilled debate - when thats the style of how we do it you cant say it makes them a bully |
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
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this is the crux of it really - i don’t think we should be independent, but the problem is its never going away , and until it goes away we have a one policy party and the rest of the country remains stagnant - it doesn’t matter what they do or don’t achieve and it doesn’t matter what the opposition do or don’t say - pretty much in perpetuity
i sometimes think about flipping my vote because at least if we become independent there wont be a need for the snp any longer , it would break down into new parties with different visions for the country and maybe out of the selection we have then, there will be someone to vote for that can drive us forward since we are no longer stuck in indy ref tunnel vision |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?"
my thought was who even takes their holiday money in cash these days , wether that be exchanged here or there  |
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
Fire Lighters!
Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
Why would they not exchange abroad?
But why would they exchange twice?
Despite what the broad Scottish accent says in London Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.yes they are it's pounds sterling any person in any part of the UK can refuse a note thet they don't recognise that doesn't make it illegal tender simply exchange it at a bank (another method of proof here your note is changed on a 1 for one basis) to a more recognisable note for the people of that area. As an example in Newcastle you will have no problems with Scottish notes as folk there are used to handling them.
They aren’t even legal tender in Scotland. There’s a difference between legal currency and legal tender."
yes but you are relying on a stupid written down technicality that doesn’t actually mean anything when we all know scottish printed bank notes are widely accepted and entirely transferrable for a bank of england note if you really want to
we have plenty of other meaningless laws - its illegal to refuse someone use of your toilet , illegal to sing on a train without written permission , even some based on money - illegal to deface a bank note - yet before the polymer notes pretty much every person cashing up ever scribbled on notes |
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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
this is the crux of it really - i don’t think we should be independent, but the problem is its never going away , and until it goes away we have a one policy party and the rest of the country remains stagnant - it doesn’t matter what they do or don’t achieve and it doesn’t matter what the opposition do or don’t say - pretty much in perpetuity
i sometimes think about flipping my vote because at least if we become independent there wont be a need for the snp any longer , it would break down into new parties with different visions for the country and maybe out of the selection we have then, there will be someone to vote for that can drive us forward since we are no longer stuck in indy ref tunnel vision "
It would always be a Socialist Govt whether it was outright or coalition trade unions would again rule the country & no I'm not a tory before get such accusations |
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By *uboCouple
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Must say i have never had a problem exchanging Scottish notes abroad anytime i needed to. (various countries)
Also note there seems to be a "stirling currency" mentioned on here. Is that the scottish sterling  |
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
this is the crux of it really - i don’t think we should be independent, but the problem is its never going away , and until it goes away we have a one policy party and the rest of the country remains stagnant - it doesn’t matter what they do or don’t achieve and it doesn’t matter what the opposition do or don’t say - pretty much in perpetuity
i sometimes think about flipping my vote because at least if we become independent there wont be a need for the snp any longer , it would break down into new parties with different visions for the country and maybe out of the selection we have then, there will be someone to vote for that can drive us forward since we are no longer stuck in indy ref tunnel vision
It would always be a Socialist Govt whether it was outright or coalition trade unions would again rule the country & no I'm not a tory before get such accusations "
but no matter what government it was they no longer have a huge big indy ref road block to hide behind snd the voters would expect them to make progress in other areas such as healthcare, education etc and if they were not delivering the voters would be more likely to hold then to account at the next election ad there is no longer one over riding driver for who to vote for
in not saying its how i will vote - just saying it crosses my mind sometimes that until we get a yes, or are able to accept a no, we leave ourselves stuck in limbo making no progress on anything , unfortunately i think only one of those might be possible and it might be better to get it over and done with |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
my thought was who even takes their holiday money in cash these days , wether that be exchanged here or there "
me the exorbitant fees associated with cards means had cash is king for areas I travel |
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
my thought was who even takes their holiday money in cash these days , wether that be exchanged here or there "
me the exorbitant fees associated with cards means hard cash is king for areas I travel |
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"Let's not forget it was Boris's UK government, the MHRA and UK scientists who got us the vaccines way ahead of any other nation Europe (Massive success) and more progressive releasing lockdown. The EU vaccination stats are pathetic and there are riots occuring because of it all.
it is the UK that has put up the money to support us all. While the SNP have hidden nearly a £1bn for their insidious aims and tried to delay vaccine roll out to raise a grievance against the UK.
The SNP are the most oppressive regime in the western world. They don't give a shit about you or any or us.... "
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"Scottish currency has never been well received in the world as it is. That's why Scots go to a Scottish bank and ask for English notes when they go abroad. .........Imagine an independent Scottish currency...pfft
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Where abroad are scottish folks spending English pounds?
Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
my thought was who even takes their holiday money in cash these days , wether that be exchanged here or there me the exorbitant fees associated with cards means hard cash is king for areas I travel"
get yourself a monzo account purely for travel - can transfer money from your uk account into it whenever you want it snd lift it (or chip and pin) anywhere abroad free of charge |
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The problem is that the seperatists couldn't care less about the state of the country as long as they get "freedom". One posted on social media that if Sturgeon came round and killed his granny he would still vote of her. With that level of mentality there really is no hope.
Sturgeon's legacy will not be independence but a divided and broken society. |
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Currency exchange outlets.
Next question please.
Why aren't they exchanging their currency before they go?
my thought was who even takes their holiday money in cash these days , wether that be exchanged here or there me the exorbitant fees associated with cards means hard cash is king for areas I travel
get yourself a monzo account purely for travel - can transfer money from your uk account into it whenever you want it snd lift it (or chip and pin) anywhere abroad free of charge "
at mid- market rate so you still lose money outside Europe I've checked into them and nothing compares to cold hard cash |
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"As guy from Glasgow living in Spain 18 years now not a good move Brexit so would be in favour of indy now ??"
the logic of this - breaking up one union was bad so lets break up another
or if its so we can rejoin the eu - people making decisions for us that we don’t have enough votes to change is bad if its england but great if its europe
i’m not saying people should be for or against independence or brexit but at least have some consistency in your logic |
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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
this is the crux of it really - i don’t think we should be independent, but the problem is its never going away , and until it goes away we have a one policy party and the rest of the country remains stagnant - it doesn’t matter what they do or don’t achieve and it doesn’t matter what the opposition do or don’t say - pretty much in perpetuity
i sometimes think about flipping my vote because at least if we become independent there wont be a need for the snp any longer , it would break down into new parties with different visions for the country and maybe out of the selection we have then, there will be someone to vote for that can drive us forward since we are no longer stuck in indy ref tunnel vision
It would always be a Socialist Govt whether it was outright or coalition trade unions would again rule the country & no I'm not a tory before get such accusations
but no matter what government it was they no longer have a huge big indy ref road block to hide behind snd the voters would expect them to make progress in other areas such as healthcare, education etc and if they were not delivering the voters would be more likely to hold then to account at the next election ad there is no longer one over riding driver for who to vote for
in not saying its how i will vote - just saying it crosses my mind sometimes that until we get a yes, or are able to accept a no, we leave ourselves stuck in limbo making no progress on anything , unfortunately i think only one of those might be possible and it might be better to get it over and done with "
The problem with Scotland is that you would just swap 0ne scolialist govt for another socialist govt there is no alternative in Scotland never has been never will. So we would never effect any change through the ballot box 8n an Independent Scotland |
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"I have asked a few SNP supporters if they would continue to vote for them based on their record in office and not just because of this vague promise of an illegal and pointless promise of indyref2 in 2021.
They all said that they don't care what they do in office as long as they deliver indyref2.
this is the crux of it really - i don’t think we should be independent, but the problem is its never going away , and until it goes away we have a one policy party and the rest of the country remains stagnant - it doesn’t matter what they do or don’t achieve and it doesn’t matter what the opposition do or don’t say - pretty much in perpetuity
i sometimes think about flipping my vote because at least if we become independent there wont be a need for the snp any longer , it would break down into new parties with different visions for the country and maybe out of the selection we have then, there will be someone to vote for that can drive us forward since we are no longer stuck in indy ref tunnel vision
It would always be a Socialist Govt whether it was outright or coalition trade unions would again rule the country & no I'm not a tory before get such accusations
but no matter what government it was they no longer have a huge big indy ref road block to hide behind snd the voters would expect them to make progress in other areas such as healthcare, education etc and if they were not delivering the voters would be more likely to hold then to account at the next election ad there is no longer one over riding driver for who to vote for
in not saying its how i will vote - just saying it crosses my mind sometimes that until we get a yes, or are able to accept a no, we leave ourselves stuck in limbo making no progress on anything , unfortunately i think only one of those might be possible and it might be better to get it over and done with
The problem with Scotland is that you would just swap 0ne scolialist govt for another socialist govt there is no alternative in Scotland never has been never will. So we would never effect any change through the ballot box 8n an Independent Scotland "
we would have the potential to swap an underperforming govt for a performing one - im not basing this line of thought on policy just now - my politics don’t align with the snp - but at the moment the independence issue overshadows any performance or under performance because its the only thing people are really voting about at the ballot box , we don’t really have party politics in scotland just now we have pro indy or pro union and nothing else matters
if we were independent (or agreed to move on and accept no) that element would be removed and we could go back to focussing on real every day issues rather than constitutional ones |
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anyway ive probably gone mad as my posts now read like i am pro independence which i am not, i just think sometimes we need to find a way to move on past the pro independence/ pro union divide and sadly we might be just dragging out the inevitable because pro indy will literally never give up -
our real options are independence or perpetual fighting for independence limbo and when i think about it that way is when i wonder if taking a hit for the team so we can at least move forward might be the only way |
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Just for a point of interest, sturgeon seemingly gets driven to a place in Edinburgh, to meet her fuck buddy, quite regularly.
We had a temp driver, haul a wagon for our store delivery and his mate asks him to do private car driving to and he said he's had sturgeon in the back, and gone to a place where she clearly got fucked |
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"Just for a point of interest, sturgeon seemingly gets driven to a place in Edinburgh, to meet her fuck buddy, quite regularly.
We had a temp driver, haul a wagon for our store delivery and his mate asks him to do private car driving to and he said he's had sturgeon in the back, and gone to a place where she clearly got fucked"
are you as interested in boris or kier’s sex life? how does your temp driver have any clue what went on behind closed doors - came out with her lippy smeared hair dishevelled and cum on her dress? |
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"Just for a point of interest, sturgeon seemingly gets driven to a place in Edinburgh, to meet her fuck buddy, quite regularly.
We had a temp driver, haul a wagon for our store delivery and his mate asks him to do private car driving to and he said he's had sturgeon in the back, and gone to a place where she clearly got fucked"
"Clearly got fucked...."? What were the give away signs? Asking for a friend...   |
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"came out with her lippy smeared hair dishevelled and cum on her dress?
Don’t stop now I’m nearing the tickly bit "
i dont even like the woman but i want to scream its international womens day can we just have this one day off from bashing strong females bullshit please |
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"came out with her lippy smeared hair dishevelled and cum on her dress?
Don’t stop now I’m nearing the tickly bit
i dont even like the woman but i want to scream its international womens day can we just have this one day off from bashing strong females bullshit please "
Why not leave out the “I don’t even like the woman” then |
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"came out with her lippy smeared hair dishevelled and cum on her dress?
Don’t stop now I’m nearing the tickly bit
i dont even like the woman but i want to scream its international womens day can we just have this one day off from bashing strong females bullshit please
Why not leave out the “I don’t even like the woman” then "
disliking isnt bashing - just wanted to clarify before someone jumped on me thinking it was my politics |
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"anyway ive probably gone mad as my posts now read like i am pro independence which i am not, i just think sometimes we need to find a way to move on past the pro independence/ pro union divide and sadly we might be just dragging out the inevitable because pro indy will literally never give up -
our real options are independence or perpetual fighting for independence limbo and when i think about it that way is when i wonder if taking a hit for the team so we can at least move forward might be the only way "
folk often get confused by others political perspective.
The problem is what people voted for has not been recognised or moved towards that's the reason we are in this constant pro/against nonsense.
It's been leveled at me a good few times "yoon" unionist scum not a true scot England wannabe.
Here's the truth I'm actually all for independence but not at any cost.
Things won't change anytime soon the screeching hoarders won't accept what the nation returned in indyref so they create a whole lot of buts to attempt to get indyref which if happens within 30 yrs will create bigger problems as why accept a seconds return when you won't accept the first return. Before the screeching nats say anything I know I know but but but |
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i think we are similar in some ways opposite in others lol ... i have alot of respect for her she’s just too socialist for me, but i dint hate folk just because we dont have the same politics - loads of my friends are socialist and i can get along with then so why would i hate a politician
also not against independence ever - last time i was against it because i felt it was based on a wing and a prayer when i wanted numbers , even if it was the numbers are going to be shit for 15 years but then look - it would still have been something to go on
a bit of me also wondered why when the world is getting smaller and more connected , both the uk and scotland want to become more insular and disconnected - but to be honest im not sure how relevant that will be post covid - time will tell |
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"And I dislike the boot
i think we are similar in some ways opposite in others lol ... i have alot of respect for her she’s just too socialist for me, but i dint hate folk just because we dont have the same politics - loads of my friends are socialist and i can get along with then so why would i hate a politician
also not against independence ever - last time i was against it because i felt it was based on a wing and a prayer when i wanted numbers , even if it was the numbers are going to be shit for 15 years but then look - it would still have been something to go on
a bit of me also wondered why when the world is getting smaller and more connected , both the uk and scotland want to become more insular and disconnected - but to be honest im w relevant that will be post covid - time will tell "
for my money its not about becoming more insular it's about having the correct connections that give people the ability to move forward for me i would have voted devo max but I would never have voted yes without clear structure and proof it was viable that was never attempted let alone done.
In regards to brexit it was impossible to grow as the EU wanted/did get there claws in everything and dragging their feet over everything. the pacts we are looking to join now would be far superior without having to give up anything but gaining major cooperation with the other players in the pact.
The EU is already showing how useless it is I think within 5 yrs another big member state will leave as its those who will have to carry the burden the UK used to heave.
But that's my view and I was never a fan of the EU the only benefit it had for me was no visas required the rest of that union was garbage |
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