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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago
village life, closest main town inverness |
"Ive never been
never had the bottle lol
Me neither lol"
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It's only scary the first time 
Even then you soon relax when you discover how nice Caroline, Michelle and the staff are 
P.s. The regulars are a friendly bunch too  |
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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago
village life, closest main town inverness |
"Who else appreciates CJ's more now that they have experienced alike without the outlet it provides?
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Too true, there's just no joy in a trip to Glasgow without a naughty night out at Cj's 
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By *ardonNWMan
over a year ago
South Lanarkshire |
As a newcomer to the area, it was great for me, both in having fun, and to gain local verification, to a.low me to have online credibility.
Looking forward to it reopening and sending in my email requests
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I knew I forgot to take something with me the last time I went to CJs. Do you know that feeling you get when you leave house and you think you’ve forgotten something. I must have forgot my camera! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am I right that we need to be L2 for CJs to re open. "
Good question and my take on it is tier 2 licensed premises can serve alcohol with food up until 8pm and serve alcohol up until 10pm.
However CJs is not licensed so does that mean they are exempt and can operate normal opening hours as long a social distancing measure are in place and followed? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Possibly classed as a night club. I guess it’s a grey area of what they are classed as "
They are a sex club and as such, classed as part of the sex industry |
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Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country.... |
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country...."
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. |
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. "
by that maxim only men should be brickies or opppps wait a minute there's this thing gets flung around a bit equality |
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. by that maxim only men should be brickies or opppps wait a minute there's this thing gets flung around a bit equality"
Begs the question, if a man says i ID as a female will the female price be applied.  |
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. by that maxim only men should be brickies or opppps wait a minute there's this thing gets flung around a bit equality
Begs the question, if a man says i ID as a female will the female price be applied. "
if you Id as a mattress is it free? |
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. by that maxim only men should be brickies or opppps wait a minute there's this thing gets flung around a bit equality
Begs the question, if a man says i ID as a female will the female price be applied. if you Id as a mattress is it free? "
Would that be a gay straight or bi mattress ?
I’ve missed dressing as I’m in the closet CJs was one of the few outlets for my other half to enjoy . Hope all are well at this and other clubs countrywide . |
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. by that maxim only men should be brickies or opppps wait a minute there's this thing gets flung around a bit equality
Begs the question, if a man says i ID as a female will the female price be applied. if you Id as a mattress is it free?
Would that be a gay straight or bi mattress ?
I’ve missed dressing as I’m in the closet CJs was one of the few outlets for my other half to enjoy . Hope all are well at this and other clubs countrywide . "
Fab straight mattress obvs |
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over a year ago
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"If it looks like a mattress and acts like a mattress then it’s probably a mattress  "
That being said though what if it doesn't want to be identified as a mattress, even though all its springs and foam is in the correct places it may want to id as a cushion. Who are we to judge.? |
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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago
kilmarnockish |
"Never been (too shy) but heard so many good reports about how friendly and safe space "
It goes for not just yourself, but anyone, just message me once Cjs reopens. I can hold you hand and introduce you to a few people of your respective matches.
Meet up beforehand if you want.
It really is, and all the clubs I’ve been to are the same. I think because we deal with the squidgy bits and taking clothes off, inhibitors and social boundaries are removed so it’s a lot easier to talk to people.
Roll on 2012.... |
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"If it looks like a mattress and acts like a mattress then it’s probably a mattress
That being said though what if it doesn't want to be identified as a mattress, even though all its springs and foam is in the correct places it may want to id as a cushion. Who are we to judge.?"
Are you the mattress protector ? |
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over a year ago
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. "
If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price |
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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago
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"Perhaps if clubs had charged women and couples the same as men over the years then they’d have more funds in their reserves as opposed to the bankruptcy which many clubs are facing up and down the country....
The price in my mind is fair single ladies are more in demand so should be charged less to entice them to use the clubs and because there are alot more single men less demand so charging more make sense. by that maxim only men should be brickies or opppps wait a minute there's this thing gets flung around a bit equality
Begs the question, if a man says i ID as a female will the female price be applied. "
Depends on how they dress when it comes to swingers clubs, if you're going as a CD then you can sometimes get a discount depending on the night |
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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price "
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother |
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother "
you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs |
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Equality is not, in fact, about treating everyone exactly the same.
In fact, since women typically earn less on average than men it's just as logical to argue it's PROMOTING equality by giving them discounted entry... |
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"Equality is not, in fact, about treating everyone exactly the same.
In fact, since women typically earn less on average than men it's just as logical to argue it's PROMOTING equality by giving them discounted entry..."
no that's equality of outcome which is the highest form of inequality. as you always favour one group over another.
If two groups do the same job with the same payscale but one gets less its because one group did less work. It has nothing to do with the inherent differences between the two groups |
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"no that's equality of outcome which is the highest form of inequality. as you always favour one group over another.
If two groups do the same job with the same payscale but one gets less its because one group did less work. It has nothing to do with the inherent differences between the two groups "
Sure, but if two groups do different, but equally valuable work, however one group is systematically put on a lower payscale (so no matter how hard they work they can't attain the same rewards) then you're inherently favouring one group over the other and equality of outcome has to be considered to remedy the imbalance. |
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"Equality is not, in fact, about treating everyone exactly the same.
In fact, since women typically earn less on average than men it's just as logical to argue it's PROMOTING equality by giving them discounted entry..."
So if I earn less than you is it fair that I pay less for a pint of milk in the supermarket? Surely that would also be PROMOTING equality lol |
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"no that's equality of outcome which is the highest form of inequality. as you always favour one group over another.
If two groups do the same job with the same payscale but one gets less its because one group did less work. It has nothing to do with the inherent differences between the two groups
Sure, but if two groups do different, but equally valuable work, however one group is systematically put on a lower payscale (so no matter how hard they work they can't attain the same rewards) then you're inherently favouring one group over the other and equality of outcome has to be considered to remedy the imbalance."
hence why equality is equality of opportunity we are all afforded the same at the outset. The two groups are doing different work with differing pays scales you don't raise the lesser paid to gain equality you afford them the same opportunities to apply for the higher paid job.
The problem with equality of outcome is easy to see.
if it's correct the shoeshine boy should be paid the same as the brain surgeon. |
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"So if I earn less than you is it fair that I pay less for a pint of milk in the supermarket? Surely that would also be PROMOTING equality lol"
Since it would be too onerous to means test and price adjust in your average Scotmid we tend to do it as income subsidies and other benefits in an (admittedly imperfect) attempt at addressing that to some extent.
To return to topic a bit, since we apoarently now live in an ideal world where everyone has exactly the same opportunities, expectations and entitlements, I'm sure the clubs will be more than happy to set one price for all, there'll be exactly the right male to female to couple quotient and everyone will be able to get as much shagging as they want with the people they want.
Looking forward to it. |
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"Me and moon-light are really missing CJs Hope they are doing ok, hope we all get back to it soon.. "
Miss seeing both of your smiley faces and laughter!
I miss both the fun and social side of cjs and as regulars, miss Caroline, Michelle and the team and how cjs was a relaxed, safe space.
Millie & Ian x |
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over a year ago
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs"
I agree it should be priced fairly kola but your argument fails simply as its a business all about supply and demand, you call people paying it as numpties but those people you call numpties are technically demanding entry and happy to pay a premium price.
Think of it like a football ground for better seats you pay a premium, is that numpties that are paying for the better seats ? There watching the same game so why are all the tickets not the same price. ? Because of the demand for "entry" to the best football club seating , simples. Just like ENTRY to a swinger club . |
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs
I agree it should be priced fairly kola but your argument fails simply as its a business all about supply and demand, you call people paying it as numpties but those people you call numpties are technically demanding entry and happy to pay a premium price.
Think of it like a football ground for better seats you pay a premium, is that numpties that are paying for the better seats ? There watching the same game so why are all the tickets not the same price. ? Because of the demand for "entry" to the best football club seating , simples. Just like ENTRY to a swinger club . "
nothing like entry to a swingers club the seats are priced different as they are in better viewing areas or in a pvt boxed area.
those tickets are also the same price per head irrespective of sex race rreligion or anything else.
Business is all about supply and demand but there are guidelines that are ment to be followed and equality irrespective of differences is one of those.
I say they are numpties as imo folk that allow themselves to be fleeced for no reason but they have a dick are mental.
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Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it |
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"My “sammie” time is desperately missed. CJ’s provided a safe space to allow this unconvincing tranny to feel attractive. I for one can’t wait for its return. "
I think you'll be waiting a while for that to happen |
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"Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it"
Totally agree, if women were being charged more there would be an uproar over it. They should charge men the same and just cap numbers instead. Pre book your slot and pay upfront would be my suggestion. |
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"Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it"
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"My “sammie” time is desperately missed. CJ’s provided a safe space to allow this unconvincing tranny to feel attractive. I for one can’t wait for its return.
I think you'll be waiting a while for that to happen "
For Cj’s to open or to feel attractive lol |
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"My “sammie” time is desperately missed. CJ’s provided a safe space to allow this unconvincing tranny to feel attractive. I for one can’t wait for its return.
I think you'll be waiting a while for that to happen
For Cj’s to open or to feel attractive lol"
For CJ's to open lol |
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"Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it"
Tbf kola there is another solution and I have used it a few times. Take along a female and go in as a couple. Not just to get in the door but to enjoy the whole night together in the club itself.
I'm not saying I agree with the pricing structure as I myself would not pay the higher price but I wouldn't slate guys that do either. Its their choice. |
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"Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it
Tbf kola there is another solution and I have used it a few times. Take along a female and go in as a couple. Not just to get in the door but to enjoy the whole night together in the club itself.
I'm not saying I agree with the pricing structure as I myself would not pay the higher price but I wouldn't slate guys that do either. Its their choice. "
Can I ask kola, if guys paid the same as fems would you go to a club ? |
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"Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it
Tbf kola there is another solution and I have used it a few times. Take along a female and go in as a couple. Not just to get in the door but to enjoy the whole night together in the club itself.
I'm not saying I agree with the pricing structure as I myself would not pay the higher price but I wouldn't slate guys that do either. Its their choice. "
that doesn't really solve it though it maybe is right for yourself but I view myself as a single guy.
I've had partners in this lifestyle and always refused to be a couple.
A large part of that for me is I don't want to deceive others you see so many on here hookup with each other for no other reason than to open up more folk to meet therse a big difference between a cpl and two randoms hooking up to open up more availability.
Am I slating them though maybe a litle I suppose they know they are being exploited but still do it anyway usually come out with the silly justification of well it's cheaper than a night out which it simply isn't you are seriously overcharged for nothing but entry you want a drink you still gotta pay you still have travel expense you still have accommodation expense its way more expensive than as an example meeting friends and going to a cinema.
So all the justifications about how inexpensive is nonsense the only reason folk go is if conditions are right you can have sex then and there.
That's the usp of these clubs to pretend otherwise is crazy.
Guys paying it creates the problem as by doing this your telling the business its OK so why would they change?
Although to be fair everyone who supports a business is also saying its OK.
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"Being willing to pay a price does not make it right I'm sure even those people would agree its unfair even as they hand over the 400% more than the chick in front of them.
And before you say so what's the solution that's easy don't pay it
Tbf kola there is another solution and I have used it a few times. Take along a female and go in as a couple. Not just to get in the door but to enjoy the whole night together in the club itself.
I'm not saying I agree with the pricing structure as I myself would not pay the higher price but I wouldn't slate guys that do either. Its their choice.
Can I ask kola, if guys paid the same as fems would you go to a club ?"
there would be a far higher chance of me attending yes |
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs"
they dont get overwhelmed by attendees but they do by “applicants”
there are limited numbers of entry for each group so X females Y couples and Z single male slots available
they are not interchangeable so X, Y and Z are essentially 3 different products / services whatever you want to label it
an example level of demand with everyone priced the same is 0.3 X , 0.8 Y and 10 Z
but 0.3 X actually makes Y and Z less popular products so the business doesn’t break even
then the business works out their sweet spot pricing structure where X gets a discount to entice, Y pay less than the cost of 2 singles but still reasonably high and Z pays the most
say 0.8 X, 0.9 Y and 6 Z
still enough for the company to break even and everyone (that goes) is happy ... the Z that dropped off when the pricing became “unfair” are surplus and make no real difference to the business
its literally just supply and demand pricing theory |
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and before anyone says i made those numbers up ... correct i did ... i don’t know the supply and demand levels for swingers clubs ... but the owners clearly do and this pricing structure is replicated across the majority of them so it obviously at least follows that pattern |
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs
they dont get overwhelmed by attendees but they do by “applicants”
there are limited numbers of entry for each group so X females Y couples and Z single male slots available
they are not interchangeable so X, Y and Z are essentially 3 different products / services whatever you want to label it
an example level of demand with everyone priced the same is 0.3 X , 0.8 Y and 10 Z
but 0.3 X actually makes Y and Z less popular products so the business doesn’t break even
then the business works out their sweet spot pricing structure where X gets a discount to entice, Y pay less than the cost of 2 singles but still reasonably high and Z pays the most
say 0.8 X, 0.9 Y and 6 Z
still enough for the company to break even and everyone (that goes) is happy ... the Z that dropped off when the pricing became “unfair” are surplus and make no real difference to the business
its literally just supply and demand pricing theory "
your problem here is x y z are people not goods or services.
They are customers not commodities.
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"and before anyone says i made those numbers up ... correct i did ... i don’t know the supply and demand levels for swingers clubs ... but the owners clearly do and this pricing structure is replicated across the majority of them so it obviously at least follows that pattern "
one decides to cash cow a gender they all do it doesn't make it right perhaps think about if it was woman being exploited would you honestly feel the same?
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This thread has went completely off topic. I bet out of the guys bitching about it, 90% of them will still go to CJ’s.
Look it is what it is. Winging on here won’t change it. Perhaps approach Caroline directly and see if she would be willing to take comments on board. If not then so be it, you either go or you don’t |
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs
they dont get overwhelmed by attendees but they do by “applicants”
there are limited numbers of entry for each group so X females Y couples and Z single male slots available
they are not interchangeable so X, Y and Z are essentially 3 different products / services whatever you want to label it
an example level of demand with everyone priced the same is 0.3 X , 0.8 Y and 10 Z
but 0.3 X actually makes Y and Z less popular products so the business doesn’t break even
then the business works out their sweet spot pricing structure where X gets a discount to entice, Y pay less than the cost of 2 singles but still reasonably high and Z pays the most
say 0.8 X, 0.9 Y and 6 Z
still enough for the company to break even and everyone (that goes) is happy ... the Z that dropped off when the pricing became “unfair” are surplus and make no real difference to the business
its literally just supply and demand pricing theory your problem here is x y z are people not goods or services.
They are customers not commodities.
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and your mistake is to think is some way people are being bought or sold ... a common misconception of men on here and usually ones that don’t attend clubs and think entry = sex
the product is the “slot” ... you aren’t buying people ... you are buying one of a limited number of high in demand spaces , reasonably in demand spaces or less in demand spaces
a bit like people who pay extra for the golden circle tickets at concerts or how 2 different pairs of trainers are equally as functional, might have cost the same to make, might sell in the same shop but one set are limited edition so sell for twice the price as not as many people can get their hands on them |
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If that’s your outlook on it why not let in women for free is they meet certain age, weight and looks criteria. As a 25yo size 10 would be more in demand than a 60yo size 20 woman
Equality works both ways and everyone should be paying the same price
It's not based on attractiveness, it's about demand, swingers clubs get overwhelmed with single guys asking to go, and they need to turn guys away. I assume they were struggling to get single women to meet the overwhelming need of the guys, so offered a discount to attract more women to go more regularly. Equity doesn't work when people are going to a club specifically to meet another person/type of person. If they bumped up the price quite a few women wouldn't bother because they can go to other clubs cheaper, they you'd just be standing in a room with lots of straight guys wanking at eachother you miss the point of what equality is.
Swingers clubs do not get overwhelmed by any group as they only allow in a specific number of each group irrespective of how many want to attend.
Demand is no excuse for inequality nightclubs no longer do cheap entry for woman as they could find themselves in breach of equality laws.
Swingers clubs do it because they are getting away with it and the likely hood of there being much protest is slim due to the nature of what type of club it is also as they set up as members clubs.
A business wants to make money and if its clientele allow it then they keep milking the numpties that doesn't change the fact that it's in many opinion breaking equality and if your OK with that it's a sad state of affairs
they dont get overwhelmed by attendees but they do by “applicants”
there are limited numbers of entry for each group so X females Y couples and Z single male slots available
they are not interchangeable so X, Y and Z are essentially 3 different products / services whatever you want to label it
an example level of demand with everyone priced the same is 0.3 X , 0.8 Y and 10 Z
but 0.3 X actually makes Y and Z less popular products so the business doesn’t break even
then the business works out their sweet spot pricing structure where X gets a discount to entice, Y pay less than the cost of 2 singles but still reasonably high and Z pays the most
say 0.8 X, 0.9 Y and 6 Z
still enough for the company to break even and everyone (that goes) is happy ... the Z that dropped off when the pricing became “unfair” are surplus and make no real difference to the business
its literally just supply and demand pricing theory your problem here is x y z are people not goods or services.
They are customers not commodities.
and your mistake is to think is some way people are being bought or sold ... a common misconception of men on here and usually ones that don’t attend clubs and think entry = sex
the product is the “slot” ... you aren’t buying people ... you are buying one of a limited number of high in demand spaces , reasonably in demand spaces or less in demand spaces
a bit like people who pay extra for the golden circle tickets at concerts or how 2 different pairs of trainers are equally as functional, might have cost the same to make, might sell in the same shop but one set are limited edition so sell for twice the price as not as many people can get their hands on them "
lol I think people are being bought or sold its you saying they are commodities for the club to use to entice others. A ticket to "the golden circle" is a different product you pay entry into a club a guy paying way over the odds for nothing more is plain a simple sexual discrimination |
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over a year ago
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"Who else appreciates CJ's more now that they have experienced alike without the outlet it provides?
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Me and my friends miss it. We miss the social side as much as the playing side. Sitting around the kitchen table can be very educational as well as fun.
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Whichever way you paint it, it is outright discrimination. You can still have set ratios (which is still discrimination on its own btw), and have everyone pay the same.
Everyone here seems to be saying how much they miss it, so if you enjoy it that much why is it perceived that women or couples wouldn't go if they were charged the same as guys? What's good for the goose is most certainly good for the gander.
Of course a business can operate in any way it wants for the most part, however for anyone trying to justify how it is in any way fair....give yourselves a shake |
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Really miss it as well. Didn't go that often, since it's a bit of a journey and involves overnight accommodation, but some of my best nights out have been at CJs.
Hope CJS and the other clubs are managing to stay afloat. Can see loads of field trips coming up once clubs are opening up again!! Roll on the good times x |
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"Whichever way you paint it, it is outright discrimination. You can still have set ratios (which is still discrimination on its own btw), and have everyone pay the same.
Everyone here seems to be saying how much they miss it, so if you enjoy it that much why is it perceived that women or couples wouldn't go if they were charged the same as guys? What's good for the goose is most certainly good for the gander.
Of course a business can operate in any way it wants for the most part, however for anyone trying to justify how it is in any way fair....give yourselves a shake"
Want to go over the discrimination in wages between men and women now? 
If you think it's unfair, don't go. Problem solved! x |
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"Whichever way you paint it, it is outright discrimination. You can still have set ratios (which is still discrimination on its own btw), and have everyone pay the same.
Everyone here seems to be saying how much they miss it, so if you enjoy it that much why is it perceived that women or couples wouldn't go if they were charged the same as guys? What's good for the goose is most certainly good for the gander.
Of course a business can operate in any way it wants for the most part, however for anyone trying to justify how it is in any way fair....give yourselves a shake"
Hope your gonna give your barber or hairdresser a right good bollocking next time you go for a haircut as most charge women more for a haircut than they do men. Or you could ask him to put up the cost of your haircut in line with the womens prices, just like you suggest cj does with the womens and couples prices, put them up in line with the guy prices. |
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"Whichever way you paint it, it is outright discrimination. You can still have set ratios (which is still discrimination on its own btw), and have everyone pay the same.
Everyone here seems to be saying how much they miss it, so if you enjoy it that much why is it perceived that women or couples wouldn't go if they were charged the same as guys? What's good for the goose is most certainly good for the gander.
Of course a business can operate in any way it wants for the most part, however for anyone trying to justify how it is in any way fair....give yourselves a shake
Hope your gonna give your barber or hairdresser a right good bollocking next time you go for a haircut as most charge women more for a haircut than they do men. Or you could ask him to put up the cost of your haircut in line with the womens prices, just like you suggest cj does with the womens and couples prices, put them up in line with the guy prices."
that's because woman's gaircuts are way different to a guys I get my hair cut and styled and it's the same price as females.
Men in general get short back n sides if you want it cut and styled the price goes up if fems just want a short back n sides go to a barbers that's all they will charge for |
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" Want to go over the discrimination in wages between men and women now? ! x"
You can't justify one wrong by citing another, what kind of logic is that.
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"Whichever way you paint it, it is outright discrimination. You can still have set ratios (which is still discrimination on its own btw), and have everyone pay the same.
Everyone here seems to be saying how much they miss it, so if you enjoy it that much why is it perceived that women or couples wouldn't go if they were charged the same as guys? What's good for the goose is most certainly good for the gander.
Of course a business can operate in any way it wants for the most part, however for anyone trying to justify how it is in any way fair....give yourselves a shake"
On the face of it it could be considered discrimination, any nightclub in town would be shot down if they had such varying entrance prices.....but regardless surely you can see why the prices at CJs exist. I’m probably pointing out the obvious but clubs like CJs only work if there is an equal number of men to women, you’d not stay long there if you turned up and it was you and 30 other men |
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"I feel sorry for those girls who have no other outlet, and cant do it at home x"
Sadly that’s my situation. I’ve not dressed since February so I’m very keen to go back once cjs reopens. The Thursday TV afternoons can’t return quickly enough xx |
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"Strange, I noticed someone put up a message on here 53 minutes ago and it's been removed  Why do you find it strange it's been removed for what it said it deserved to be removed imo"
Was cjs criticized? Burn the heathen!! |
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"Strange, I noticed someone put up a message on here 53 minutes ago and it's been removed Why do you find it strange it's been removed for what it said it deserved to be removed imo
Was cjs criticized? Burn the heathen!! "
Wording very carefully here...
I mentioned that some people were running an endeavour to help Caroline secure the future of the club, which it turns out was against the rules. The underlying rule I broke is a good, noble rule, but Id say I only broke the letter, not the spirit of the law. Hey ho. |
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We are hoping to visit CJs when this is over and safe to do so, really hope it’s going to reopen as we have heard so many good things from people on here and now we are very curious |
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