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"hi there, parade in EK , marching to HMRC offices hahahahahahahahaha, btw, its absolutely pishing down as well, hahahaha "Hahah....there's a massive one sceduled for 12 midday in Stirling.....expecting something like 10,000 knobends........not a chance.....best thing about the rain today......Three cjeers for the rain!!!!!!! | |||
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"hi there, parade in EK , marching to HMRC offices hahahahahahahahaha, btw, its absolutely pishing down as well, hahahaha
Hahah....there's a massive one sceduled for 12 midday in Stirling.....expecting something like 10,000 knobends........not a chance.....best thing about the rain today......Three cjeers for the rain!!!!!!!"WATP = We Avoid Tax Payments  | |||
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"Ban = unable to controll "Let's say that it was 24 hours before you were born, and a genie appeared and said, 'What I'm going to do is let you set the rules of the society into which you will be born. You can set the economic rules and the social rules, and whatever rules you set will apply during your lifetime and your children's lifetimes.' And you'll say, 'Well, that's nice, but what's the catch?' And the genie says, 'Here's the catch. You don't know if you're going to be born rich or poor, white or black, male or female, able-bodied or infirm, intelligent or retarded." " I don't know what this post is meant to mean lol I think both orange walks and republican marches should be banned, no matter if they started out as something else, they only feed the bigotry monster in this country. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it  | |||
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"Ban = unable to controll "Let's say that it was 24 hours before you were born, and a genie appeared and said, 'What I'm going to do is let you set the rules of the society into which you will be born. You can set the economic rules and the social rules, and whatever rules you set will apply during your lifetime and your children's lifetimes.' And you'll say, 'Well, that's nice, but what's the catch?' And the genie says, 'Here's the catch. You don't know if you're going to be born rich or poor, white or black, male or female, able-bodied or infirm, intelligent or retarded." I don't know what this post is meant to mean lol I think both orange walks and republican marches should be banned, no matter if they started out as something else, they only feed the bigotry monster in this country. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it " | |||
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"Ban = unable to controll "Let's say that it was 24 hours before you were born, and a genie appeared and said, 'What I'm going to do is let you set the rules of the society into which you will be born. You can set the economic rules and the social rules, and whatever rules you set will apply during your lifetime and your children's rlifetimes.' And you'll say, 'Well, that's nice, but what's the catch?' And the genie says, 'Here's the catch. You don't know if you're going to be born rich or poor, white or black, male or female, able-bodied or infirm, intelligent or retarded." " ehe?  | |||
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"Did you not stop to think that the baby may actually be from northern Ireland if people learned about what the marches actually stand for and support they would change there views" I was actually caught up in this parade today in Glasgow yes there are many bands from Nothern Ireland but the scottish bands well out weighed them | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender " | |||
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"Orange walks are not sectarian and we as british citizens are a prodonently Protestant country " Do you actualy believe that statement? You obviously think republican marches are not sectarian either then | |||
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"When i see whats happening at football matches and at theses parades then as a far as i can see there is only one way to end this HATRED becaus thats what it is and thats to BAN them all." Have you actually went to an orange walk in Glasgow? The only time there is bother it stems from alcohol which is a bigger issue in our society than a march to remember fallen soldiers. | |||
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"Well a republican march spouting hatred towards British forces and killing British forces walking threw our birtish streets is wrong " Thats what ive said the hatred is on both sides not just one . | |||
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"When i see whats happening at football matches and at theses parades then as a far as i can see there is only one way to end this HATRED becaus thats what it is and thats to BAN them all. Have you actually went to an orange walk in Glasgow? The only time there is bother it stems from alcohol which is a bigger issue in our society than a march to remember fallen soldiers." Eh yes i have actully i come from a Catholic mother and Prodestant father my father had two brothers in the orange lodge when they were alive and took me to see them many a time back then..but admittedly i knew nothing about what these parades were taking place .. i do now tho . Anyway starying off what this post was ment to be il bow out from any further comment . | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender "Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.  | |||
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"Of course they should all be banned, when can it ever be right to march through the streets spouting hatred. Would any band be allowed to march through the streets playing were up to our knees in paki blood? I think not Or on the other side songs songs depicting bombings and shootings? This will never die out as long as the bigots bring their kids up to be the same as they are." well said...i blame the parents and grandparents for keeping this bile going. | |||
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"Of course they should all be banned, when can it ever be right to march through the streets spouting hatred. Would any band be allowed to march through the streets playing were up to our knees in paki blood? I think not Or on the other side songs songs depicting bombings and shootings? This will never die out as long as the bigots bring their kids up to be the same as they are. well said...i blame the parents and grandparents for keeping this bile going."Its the school playground they hear about it my parents dont even like football | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican. "Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads  | |||
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"Orange walks are not sectarian and we as british citizens are a prodonently Protestant country Do you actualy believe that statement? You obviously think republican marches are not sectarian either then" A strange debate for a swingers' site but the views expressed demonstrate that Scotland, sadly, continues to have a problem. Personally, I'd ban all such demonstrations for the social disorder and subsequent domestic abuse that results. Orange Walks are sectarian by their very nature. They celebrate Protestant triumphalism and supremacy over Catholicism. We all know the words. They have no place in a tolerant society. Republican demonstrations are political not sectarian. Many leading republicans were in fact Protestants. But they cause offence to people so I'd have no problem with them being banned too. The Ancient Order of Hibernians is a Catholic organisation. They play hymns. Sadly some object to this. Why can't we all just get along?  | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads "And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not! | |||
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" Orange Walks are sectarian by their very nature. " | |||
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"Why can't we all just get along? " | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not! "The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest "h How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
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How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm "I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised"Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all"I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end "im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first . | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first ."From what i seen there were no issues at all, | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all, "Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol | |||
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"I think the OP has cast a line and got a few bites here......LOL" yeah sadly i did say that earlier lol xxx | |||
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"I think the OP has cast a line and got a few bites here......LOL yeah sadly i did say that earlier lol xxx "Sorry.......I couldn't be arsed reading through it all. | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all,
Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol"As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand. | |||
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"to be honest i come on here to get away from all that shite ! " I wouldn't normally stand up and argue the toss over it, however it is a small minority who destroys it for others as with every aspect of life.. be it in real life or online | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all,
Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol
As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand. "Adding arms n legs hmmmmmmm how exactly by stating the facts .... actually i ddnt witness any violence i said i witness a few arrests i have no idea what they were for and to say they alreay probably have a criminal record is a bit outragious to say as you nor i have any knowllage of why they were being arrested in the first place | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all,
Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol
As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand.
Adding arms n legs hmmmmmmm how exactly by stating the facts .... actually i ddnt witness any violence i said i witness a few arrests i have no idea what they were for and to say they alreay probably have a criminal record is a bit outragious to say as you nor i have any knowllage of why they were being arrested in the first place "What you stated was that you seen 4 arrests today at the orange parade, and what you what you quoted with regards to my comments were of a condescending and patronising manor.. could you care to explain why? All i have stated is what i seen in Stirling today and my opinion, which i am entitled to do. I have been to many marches over the years on both sides of the fence and i am not biased etc | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all,
Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol
As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand.
Adding arms n legs hmmmmmmm how exactly by stating the facts .... actually i ddnt witness any violence i said i witness a few arrests i have no idea what they were for and to say they alreay probably have a criminal record is a bit outragious to say as you nor i have any knowllage of why they were being arrested in the first place
What you stated was that you seen 4 arrests today at the orange parade, and what you what you quoted with regards to my comments were of a condescending and patronising manor.. could you care to explain why? All i have stated is what i seen in Stirling today and my opinion, which i am entitled to do. I have been to many marches over the years on both sides of the fence and i am not biased etc"if you see my opinions as condesending and patronising then thats your problem not mine | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
h
How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all,
Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol
As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand.
Adding arms n legs hmmmmmmm how exactly by stating the facts .... actually i ddnt witness any violence i said i witness a few arrests i have no idea what they were for and to say they alreay probably have a criminal record is a bit outragious to say as you nor i have any knowllage of why they were being arrested in the first place
What you stated was that you seen 4 arrests today at the orange parade, and what you what you quoted with regards to my comments were of a condescending and patronising manor.. could you care to explain why? All i have stated is what i seen in Stirling today and my opinion, which i am entitled to do. I have been to many marches over the years on both sides of the fence and i am not biased etc"To be fair this is what you said: "There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest " No one put arms and legs on it, MsD asked a valid question as to how you knew that there was no one arrested as you couldn't have possibly watched all of the parade from every angle. Personally, they are all a lot of crap. They should all be banned. I bet the majority of those marching don't actually know the history of what they are marching about | |||
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"Nothing about orange marches are sectarian it's a British march in a British street no surrender
Haha are you for real? Is that supposed to be a valid arguement? It costs taxpayers thousands to pay for these clowns to spout hatred on the streets, they should all be banned in scotland, loyalist or republican.
Emmm noo,each lodge pays a bill for policing and closure of roads
And so they should! Do the lodges pay the indirect costs incurred for the violence, and the sheer inconvenience they cause, I think not!
The violence that would go on regardless from small minded individuals with whom use it as an excuse in the first place. There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
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How on earth can u know there wanst one arrest ? .. i was in Glasgow and saw at least 4 ppl being arrested and this was only at 1.30pm
I was there from start till finish of parade. There was 1 lodge steward per 10 band members, so was very well organised
Im sure you were but im also sure your eyes werent on everyone and there is always a few arrests never heard on any going without any arrests at all
I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end
im sure ul local paper will tell u diffrently but if it did then thats a first .
From what i seen there were no issues at all,
Yes from what u saw 1 person watching 10,000 people lol
As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand.
Adding arms n legs hmmmmmmm how exactly by stating the facts .... actually i ddnt witness any violence i said i witness a few arrests i have no idea what they were for and to say they alreay probably have a criminal record is a bit outragious to say as you nor i have any knowllage of why they were being arrested in the first place
What you stated was that you seen 4 arrests today at the orange parade, and what you what you quoted with regards to my comments were of a condescending and patronising manor.. could you care to explain why? All i have stated is what i seen in Stirling today and my opinion, which i am entitled to do. I have been to many marches over the years on both sides of the fence and i am not biased etc
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There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest
No one put arms and legs on it, MsD asked a valid question as to how you knew that there was no one arrested as you couldn't have possibly watched all of the parade from every angle.
Personally, they are all a lot of crap. They should all be banned. I bet the majority of those marching don't actually know the history of what they are marching about" Exactly as i said before i watched some kids today no more than 3/4 yrs of age these kids probably know nothing about the reason they are marching .  | |||
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"I see one of the posters above said it is a walk to remember the fallen British soldiers is that only in his head oris it fact? as its the first I have heard of it. Dont anyone pretend theses marches are not sectarian I am sure we have all saw them and the cries of fenian b******s and orange b******s it is the curse of the west of Scotland."
The history of bigotry,not only blights the past,it also blights the future.
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"Ban = unable to controll "Let's say that it was 24 hours before you were born, and a genie appeared and said, 'What I'm going to do is let you set the rules of the society into which you will be born. You can set the economic rules and the social rules, and whatever rules you set will apply during your lifetime and your children's lifetimes.' And you'll say, 'Well, that's nice, but what's the catch?' And the genie says, 'Here's the catch. You don't know if you're going to be born rich or poor, white or black, male or female, able-bodied or infirm, intelligent or retarded." " Harry can we just say...that is the most beautiful n sensible thing iv'e ever seen in this forum....well said Dudeski Jamie n Brenda ...SnM.xx | |||
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"Great to think I served in the forces for 12 years to defend the right of morons to march around the streets spewing hatred and inciting violence. If they really want to march, why don't they don the British uniform they claim to be so proud of and pick up a rifle? Having served in Northern Ireland and the Gulf, I can tell you that when we were lying in the dirt, you didn't give a shit what religion the guy next to you was... " I admire the forces as it is not an easy life for most and obviously downrigth dangerous at times. But if the poster above is to believed then you have got it wrong by a long way as he claims that the parades on his side of the divide at least are to commemorate the fallen British troops god knows where he dug that one up from as I always thought that was armistace. day. | |||
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"the orange walk isnt about sectarianism or hatred for the other side .............but most that attend view them this way and the reason they go. but you cant ban them for the simple reason that there are those who folow them for the correct reasons only my take on it and ban jimmy choos "over expensive wellys"" | |||
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"the orange walk isnt about sectarianism or hatred for the other side .............but most that attend view them this way and the reason they go. but you cant ban them for the simple reason that there are those who folow them for the correct reasons only my take on it and ban jimmy choos "over expensive wellys"" Can you name some of the tunes they play and maybe put some of the words in and let us decide? "It was there King Billy slew the fenians" "Up to our knees in fenian blood surender or youl die" Do you recognise? they are hardly hyms. Both sides marches are sectarian and anyone who denies it is totally blinkered. | |||
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"the orange walk isnt about sectarianism or hatred for the other side .............but most that attend view them this way and the reason they go. but you cant ban them for the simple reason that there are those who folow them for the correct reasons only my take on it and ban jimmy choos "over expensive wellys"" So its just coincidence that they stop/pause in areas of high Catholic residence then?…. yeah, OK. | |||
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"the orange walk isnt about sectarianism or hatred for the other side .............but most that attend view them this way and the reason they go. but you cant ban them for the simple reason that there are those who folow them for the correct reasons only my take on it and ban jimmy choos "over expensive wellys" So its just coincidence that they stop/pause in areas of high Catholic residence then?…. yeah, OK. " | |||
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"the orange walk isnt about sectarianism or hatred for the other side .............but most that attend view them this way and the reason they go. but you cant ban them for the simple reason that there are those who folow them for the correct reasons only my take on it and ban jimmy choos "over expensive wellys" So its just coincidence that they stop/pause in areas of high Catholic residence then?…. yeah, OK. " Show me a tribal map of any town, where religious beliefs clearly highlight streets and areas. Scotland only before anyone gets picky. | |||
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" So its just coincidence that they stop/pause in areas of high Catholic residence then?…. yeah, OK. Show me a tribal map of any town, where religious beliefs clearly highlight streets and areas. Scotland only before anyone gets picky." We know it happens. Google maps doesn't have that info but those organising the marches will know where to stop if they want to antagonise things with "the other side". Im english. Im not religious per se, and so wouldn't jump to defend either 'side'. However, I would jump to defend a religious hatred and in some areas on some marches on some occasions, some of those marches are attended by those that have got that religious hatred in them. | |||
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" As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand. " No, you said "There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest" You said that as a FACT, not as an opinion. Then "I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end" Then you back tracked and said "From what i seen there were no issues at all" Im sure the StirlingObserver on Monday will tell us though… although it would be nice to see if there was no arrests, maybe progress is been made. Last year, 32 arrests were made, 6 of them for sectarian offences so if non this year then brilliant. | |||
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" As i stated from the start "I" never seen any arrests or people acting in a violent manor....please do not add arms and legs on to the context of what i have stated... as you say i'm entitled to my opinion as are you. You seen some violence at a march today in Glasgow. These are a small minority who probably already have a criminal record for similar things regardless of the situation at hand. No, you said "There was over 10, 000 in Stirling today with not 1 arrest" You said that as a FACT, not as an opinion. Then "I can assure you that there was no trouble at all, including at the park at the end" Then you back tracked and said "From what i seen there were no issues at all" Im sure the StirlingObserver on Monday will tell us though… although it would be nice to see if there was no arrests, maybe progress is been made. Last year, 32 arrests were made, 6 of them for sectarian offences so if non this year then brilliant." | |||
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"sectarianism will never die out in this country its inbred unfortunalty. i come from a mixed marrige i myself am married to another religion so i have known this all my life,,,i just thank god my parents knew better and never ever broght religion into arguments and let us decide for ourselves. hate never wins, I am also in a mixed marraige and regarding my parents they were tthe same religion my gran brought up her sisters kids who were the opposite religion from my fathers siblings and they went to different schools although living in the same house the religious divide was never mentioned in our house and my parents hated secterianism. We have also brought ours up not to be blinded by bigotry. auds xx" | |||
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"Was woke up at 8,45 with the drums ,what a sound,watched the local parade then joined them in the pub. I am not a halfwit but hey if participating in this leads to names callng then I am proud to be a halfwit ! " | |||
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"Right ok we are a bunch of sectarian halfwits but never in our history have we abused young children or attempted to cover it up even the pope himself admits it I know what faith I'm proud to be of and as long as I keep living I'll keep marching threw our British cities streets No surrender " Think you will find you are wrong there just google abuse in protestant churches. And what will you not surrender to are you in Afghanistan fighting a war or something? | |||
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"Right ok we are a bunch of sectarian halfwits but never in our history have we abused young children or attempted to cover it up even the pope himself admits it I know what faith I'm proud to be of and as long as I keep living I'll keep marching threw our British cities streets No surrender " and that has what to do with parades???? Same old same old. | |||
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"Right ok we are a bunch of sectarian halfwits but never in our history have we abused young children or attempted to cover it up even the pope himself admits it I know what faith I'm proud to be of and as long as I keep living I'll keep marching threw our British cities streets No surrender and that has what to do with parades???? Lol ,was waiting on that coming up,great comeback... NOT ! Same old same old. " | |||
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"Nothing wrong with been proud of whatever faith you happen to be. What is wrong is singing/chanting sectarian abuse to those of other faiths. If one is proud to be part of an organisation that does that, even if its a small minority, then I would say that is very narrow minded. Those organisations need to stamp it out. Those that are part of it and dont get involved in the darker side need to help to stamp it out. " | |||
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"Nothing wrong with been proud of whatever faith you happen to be. What is wrong is singing/chanting sectarian abuse to those of other faiths. If one is proud to be part of an organisation that does that, even if its a small minority, then I would say that is very narrow minded. Those organisations need to stamp it out. Those that are part of it and dont get involved in the darker side need to help to stamp it out. " National news website pointed out, Polis were arresting for the slighest word said or action made that was contary to the law. "You are only as good as your last fuckup" Last few years pressure has been there to ban marches. Funding withdrawn = internal stewards to keep order, rather that stop a tradition to commerate historical events or past deed. Marching season has always been controversal from Drumcree to the Garvaghy Road. No publicity lets the story wither away, harping on or trying to put your spin this forum thread is starting to get noxious. Of course, closing this thread down could be misconstrued as not answering the question. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with been proud of whatever faith you happen to be. What is wrong is singing/chanting sectarian abuse to those of other faiths. If one is proud to be part of an organisation that does that, even if its a small minority, then I would say that is very narrow minded. Those organisations need to stamp it out. Those that are part of it and dont get involved in the darker side need to help to stamp it out. National news website pointed out, Polis were arresting for the slighest word said or action made that was contary to the law. "You are only as good as your last fuckup" Last few years pressure has been there to ban marches. Funding withdrawn = internal stewards to keep order, rather that stop a tradition to commerate historical events or past deed. Marching season has always been controversal from Drumcree to the Garvaghy Road. No publicity lets the story wither away, harping on or trying to put your spin this forum thread is starting to get noxious. Of course, closing this thread down could be misconstrued as not answering the question. " erm, if its 'cotrary to the law' doesn't that entitle 'the polis' to arrest them then?? | |||
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"Nothing wrong with been proud of whatever faith you happen to be. What is wrong is singing/chanting sectarian abuse to those of other faiths. If one is proud to be part of an organisation that does that, even if its a small minority, then I would say that is very narrow minded. Those organisations need to stamp it out. Those that are part of it and dont get involved in the darker side need to help to stamp it out. " What is wrong with it is that it is Hate Crime and this is illegal. It is time the authorities got a hold of this issue and stamped on it The SNP Govt claims to be against it and has introduced legislation following the Old Firm "shame" game - yet allows these parades to continue. Time to ban them all. Wonder what the manager of Sevco would do with his spare Saturdays? | |||
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"Christianity was meant to unite,must be the most unsuccessful concept in history. Though people who are members of organisations,that encourage bigotry,may parade under a christian banner,when in fact their dogma,could not be further from true christian values." So true although most will deny it as above. | |||
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"Christianity was meant to unite,must be the most unsuccessful concept in history. Though people who are members of organisations,that encourage bigotry,may parade under a christian banner,when in fact their dogma,could not be further from true christian values. So true although most will deny it as above."
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"the orange walk isnt about sectarianism or hatred for the other side .............but most that attend view them this way and the reason they go. but you cant ban them for the simple reason that there are those who folow them for the correct reasons only my take on it and ban jimmy choos "over expensive wellys" Can you name some of the tunes they play and maybe put some of the words in and let us decide? "It was there King Billy slew the fenians" "Up to our knees in fenian blood surender or youl die" Do you recognise? they are hardly hyms. Both sides marches are sectarian and anyone who denies it is totally blinkered. " and this song is bad why ...................oh i see because you are looking at it in the context that these words are used now. not with the feelings and determination that it is ment to portray of a great and mighty battle that was fought and means somthing to people (and before you bark up the wrong tree no i am not a member of an orange order)but because of a smal minority yes i did say small they should be banned people will always hate people no matter what banner you want to fly it under but some do celabrate it for the correct reasons right or wrong they are entitled to it mines is a lager am parched after that !!!!! | |||
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"I wonder how many realy know the history and how the pope actualy supported Billy." My answer to that one is yep i am aware of the history of it all
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"I wonder how many realy know the history and how the pope actualy supported Billy. My answer to that one is yep i am aware of the history of it all
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"If they`ve got to parade about like numpties do it in places where you`re welcome , not in areas where you know you`re upsetting the vast majority of decent citizens who are not interested in this shite." Going by the crowds in Stirling and in Glasgow on sat I think they were more than welcome. Roll on Thursday | |||
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"People living the past. Small minds find it hard to progress in life. Prince William and King James were part of history, and history is where it should remain. Not dragged up every summer to satisfy the bigotry and hatred of some. And that goes for all such marches on both sides." Both sides ? Can't compare the 2 sorry they are total different. Ww1 and ww2 is in the past should we scrap Rememberence Sunday etc then ? History and tradition is nothing to be ashame of | |||
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"If they`ve got to parade about like numpties do it in places where you`re welcome , not in areas where you know you`re upsetting the vast majority of decent citizens who are not interested in this shite. Going by the crowds in Stirling and in Glasgow on sat I think they were more than welcome. Roll on Thursday "If you had read my post correctly it said decent citizens , not the mob who marched through Glasgow on Sat with over 40 arrests. | |||
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"People living the past. Small minds find it hard to progress in life. Prince William and King James were part of history, and history is where it should remain. Not dragged up every summer to satisfy the bigotry and hatred of some. And that goes for all such marches on both sides. Both sides ? Can't compare the 2 sorry they are total different. Ww1 and ww2 is in the past should we scrap Rememberence Sunday etc then ? History and tradition is nothing to be ashame of " Don't throw remembrance sunday and 2 world wars at me as some kind of justification of your beliefs. I served my country, in N Ireland and the Gulf. Don't think I've ever seen d*unken bigoted louts fighting on Remembrance Sunday in Glasgow? These parades are nothing but days of celebration of bigoted mob rule. Something that troops were deployed to quash, and restore law and order in 1916 and the late 60's. If people believe in it so much, go live in Ireland where the battle took place, and you can celebrate it every day if you like. That'll leave the people of Glasgow in peace. | |||
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"If they`ve got to parade about like numpties do it in places where you`re welcome , not in areas where you know you`re upsetting the vast majority of decent citizens who are not interested in this shite. Going by the crowds in Stirling and in Glasgow on sat I think they were more than welcome. Roll on Thursday
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"People living the past. Small minds find it hard to progress in life. Prince William and King James were part of history, and history is where it should remain. Not dragged up every summer to satisfy the bigotry and hatred of some. And that goes for all such marches on both sides. Both sides ? Can't compare the 2 sorry they are total different. Ww1 and ww2 is in the past should we scrap Rememberence Sunday etc then ? History and tradition is nothing to be ashame of Don't throw remembrance sunday and 2 world wars at me as some kind of justification of your beliefs. I served my country, in N Ireland and the Gulf. Don't think I've ever seen d*unken bigoted louts fighting on Remembrance Sunday in Glasgow? These parades are nothing but days of celebration of bigoted mob rule. Something that troops were deployed to quash, and restore law and order in 1916 and the late 60's. If people believe in it so much, go live in Ireland where the battle took place, and you can celebrate it every day if you like. That'll leave the people of Glasgow in peace." So you need to be from norn ire to celebrate it ? You do know e was our king aswell. Scottish people also fought in the battle. And someone said its in the past so forget it. Alot of things are in the past but still get celebrated. Bigoted parades ? That's your view. They have every right to march just like everyone else. | |||
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"If you know anything, you'll know that a CATHOLIC Pope gave him funds to raise the army to do battle with King James. It was all over politics, nothing more. Prince William was about to discuss terms of ceasefire to end the battle, but King James, who was suffering from mental illness, sent someone to offer surrender. So there almost wasn't any victory to celebrate. Knowing history is one thing, celebrating bigorty is quite another. " Who celebrates bigotry ? Only Hate I see on this thread is for the orange order. | |||
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"Who fancies a swingers parade lol,no bigoted numpties allowed . "Best post ive seen on here lets just make luv not war  | |||
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"Who fancies a swingers parade lol,no bigoted numpties allowed .
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"Who fancies a swingers parade lol,no bigoted numpties allowed .
Bigoted numpties "Yes bigoted numpties! Parade on the 12th if u want to come along or maybe ul be sumwer celebrating an outdated tradition . | |||
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Bigoted numpties
Yes bigoted numpties! Parade on the 12th if u want to come along or maybe ul be sumwer celebrating an outdated tradition . "Look up te word bigoted you will find your the one who comes across as a bigot on this thread. Yes I will be somewhere else. You can watch it on bbc1 it's that offensive etc they have it on the tv for an hour and a half on te 12th | |||
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