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over a year ago
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Working with a bunch of people that can only be described as fuckin useless.
Need to micro manage every little detail, no common sense, no initiative to see what is required and act upon it.
So do you think they really are as thick as mince or simply taking the piss.
Polish, Romanian, Indian, English and few other nationalities. All speak English well enough to understand what is required. |
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Based on the current predicament we are all in, it has become pretty evident that many people are lacking in not only common sense but also any sort of social consciousness or sense of personal responsibility.
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"Working with a bunch of people that can only be described as fuckin useless.
Need to micro manage every little detail, no common sense, no initiative to see what is required and act upon it.
So do you think they really are as thick as mince or simply taking the piss.
Polish, Romanian, Indian, English and few other nationalities. All speak English well enough to understand what is required. "
xenophobic underlying. you mentioned nationality's then proclaimed them to speak good English. Really no need to mention where they come from.
“My work colleagues are fucking useless would suffice”
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over a year ago
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Sun Tzu.
“If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, the general is to blame. But if his orders ARE clear, and the soldiers nevertheless disobey, then it is the fault of their officers.” |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The orders you bark at them probably get lost in amongst the ranting and raving "
I don't bark any orders at any one, I ask for jobs to be done . I niether rant nor rave but when ask for example for a fence line to be moved 10 feet over, give them a start and finish line , make sure they are happy where its going , how far its going and leave them to it , there's little room for error, when you come back and its move 20 feet, the wrong length and in the wrong direction it kinda just leaves, their taking the piss or thick as mince. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Working with a bunch of people that can only be described as fuckin useless.
Need to micro manage every little detail, no common sense, no initiative to see what is required and act upon it.
So do you think they really are as thick as mince or simply taking the piss.
Polish, Romanian, Indian, English and few other nationalities. All speak English well enough to understand what is required. "
Perhaps, as the “boss” you need to look at yourself and why your team aren’t performing. The common denominator here seems to be you..... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What happened to "coaching skils"
Maybe they aren't working for you because they think you're a prick.
Maybe poor leadership."
Or there taking the piss. As they get away with to much, clearly treating them as intelligent adults aint working .  |
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"So what other nationalities are fucking up there - if you are going to bitch about those ones you should be fair and name all of them afterall...  "
There's 1 welsh guy but he's OK , its not that there fucking up to much , more as the thread says , zero common sense and initiative. I'm afraid I can't train that into them. So there either useless or at it. |
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"The orders you bark at them probably get lost in amongst the ranting and raving
I don't bark any orders at any one, I ask for jobs to be done . I niether rant nor rave but when ask for example for a fence line to be moved 10 feet over, give them a start and finish line , make sure they are happy where its going , how far its going and leave them to it , there's little room for error, when you come back and its move 20 feet, the wrong length and in the wrong direction it kinda just leaves, their taking the piss or thick as mince."
The fault lies fully with You,
you are the boss, so you are the one who hired, you failed to interview and assess your employee's correctly and failed to find the correct persons for the job.
now, if it was only one employee then that is excusable, but from what you are saying, it is every single one of them
very surprised you are in business and making a profit when you clearly admit to employing the wrong staff
the buck stops with you, as you said YOU are the boss.
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"The orders you bark at them probably get lost in amongst the ranting and raving
I don't bark any orders at any one, I ask for jobs to be done . I niether rant nor rave but when ask for example for a fence line to be moved 10 feet over, give them a start and finish line , make sure they are happy where its going , how far its going and leave them to it , there's little room for error, when you come back and its move 20 feet, the wrong length and in the wrong direction it kinda just leaves, their taking the piss or thick as mince.
The fault lies fully with You,
you are the boss, so you are the one who hired, you failed to interview and assess your employee's correctly and failed to find the correct persons for the job.
now, if it was only one employee then that is excusable, but from what you are saying, it is every single one of them
very surprised you are in business and making a profit when you clearly admit to employing the wrong staff
the buck stops with you, as you said YOU are the boss.
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Being in charge of them does not mean I hired them , certainly been told to bin a few of them to set an example to the others but luckily for them I wouldnt do something like that especially this time of year. More apt to come on here and vent my frustration and get opinions.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"More apt to come on here and vent my frustration and get opinions.
Will you take any of them on board or just dismiss them?"
Absolutely, especially the one that said some people are thick as fuck. At least I would know there not taking the piss . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So what other nationalities are fucking up there - if you are going to bitch about those ones you should be fair and name all of them afterall...
There's 1 welsh guy but he's OK , its not that there fucking up to much , more as the thread says , zero common sense and initiative. I'm afraid I can't train that into them. So there either useless or at it. "
You sound like a really horrible guy to work for..... no interest in your staff at all and you don’t seem to want to coach or develop them.
I stand by my earlier comment that rather than a large random group all being “useless”, I think you’re the problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"More apt to come on here and vent my frustration and get opinions.
Will you take any of them on board or just dismiss them?
Absolutely, especially the one that said some people are thick as fuck. At least I would know there not taking the piss . "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What happened to "coaching skils"
Maybe they aren't working for you because they think you're a prick.
Maybe poor leadership.
Or there taking the piss. As they get away with to much, clearly treating them as intelligent adults aint working . "
Nah they def think your a prick  |
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"So what other nationalities are fucking up there - if you are going to bitch about those ones you should be fair and name all of them afterall...
There's 1 welsh guy but he's OK , its not that there fucking up to much , more as the thread says , zero common sense and initiative. I'm afraid I can't train that into them. So there either useless or at it.
You sound like a really horrible guy to work for..... no interest in your staff at all and you don’t seem to want to coach or develop them.
I stand by my earlier comment that rather than a large random group all being “useless”, I think you’re the problem "
Again more assumptions, its not my job to coach, train or boost a self employed persons feelings . I'm there to ensure they do their job . They simply need to do what they are trained for. Its like employing a painter and decorator to paint your house and they come and ask you to open the tin of paint for them. Thats the level we are talking here. Get a grip. |
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They can't all be bad. Everyone has that lazy person who does not pull their weight but not the whole team. I think they are taking the piss. You need to be more assertive and show them who is boss. |
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"They can't all be bad. Everyone has that lazy person who does not pull their weight but not the whole team. I think they are taking the piss. You need to be more assertive and show them who is boss."
Your right, which brings be back to my original post before I was blamed for everything, their either thick as mince or taking the piss.
I'm probably partly to blame for treating them as professionals and expecting them to do their job with minimal supervision on simple tasks.
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"A bad manager can ruin a team causing the best employees to flee and the remainder to lose all motivation".
Talking about my own manager here. A manager who cannot gel a team and get the best from workers is a bad manager in my opinion. Shit on your workers you get shit from them |
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"Nobody wants to put any effort in.for minimum wage ..
Why work hard for less than a tenner .
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Trust me sparkle these guys are no where near working for minimum wage which is more the reason I expect better. I'm probably more here venting frustration as I know the answer is to tell a few of them to go home and don't bother coming back. But during these times and Christmas looming I genuinely don't want to do that. Have had the conversations with them but I only got this team 5 weeks ago and fear they may be set in there ways which can't end well for them . |
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"Just wait until the teenagers of today hit the workforce. Absolutely clueless bunch of social media junkies. "
They will probably fair better than many older tradesmen as they won't have learned how to be a lazy piss taker type. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ach ...never mind.
Do you feel better after your wee rant at least son? "
Hell yeah , its been a bundle a joy in here for me. Lmao.
Maybe have masell a wee cocktail now. Of arsenic !! lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ach ...never mind.
Do you feel better after your wee rant at least son?
Hell yeah , its been a bundle a joy in here for me. Lmao.
Maybe have masell a wee cocktail now. Of arsenic !! lol "
Don't be too hard on yourself.
My old boss was an utter prick.
And look how well I turned out |
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"Ach ...never mind.
Do you feel better after your wee rant at least son?
Hell yeah , its been a bundle a joy in here for me. Lmao.
Maybe have masell a wee cocktail now. Of arsenic !! lol
Don't be too hard on yourself.
My old boss was an utter prick.
And look how well I turned out "
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"Nobody wants to put any effort in.for minimum wage ..
Why work hard for less than a tenner .
Trust me sparkle these guys are no where near working for minimum wage which is more the reason I expect better. I'm probably more here venting frustration as I know the answer is to tell a few of them to go home and don't bother coming back. But during these times and Christmas looming I genuinely don't want to do that. Have had the conversations with them but I only got this team 5 weeks ago and fear they may be set in there ways which can't end well for them ."
Me id walk in sack.them on the spot .ud have a full new team next day and they would know u mean buisness keep the Welsh guy and make him gaffer then he will buck them up |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They can't all be bad. Everyone has that lazy person who does not pull their weight but not the whole team. I think they are taking the piss. You need to be more assertive and show them who is boss."
Being assertive and showing others who is Boss does not increase productivity nor quality.
Don't ask people too work faster as you'll get zero effort in return.
Establish people's strengths and weaknesses and coach them to achieve their goals. Coach people not too work harder but work smarter.
On the basis of the job they are trained to do, I'm a spark to trade. If you asked me re-wire a full factory that's easy for me, ask me to do the fire alarms I would need think of it more.
It's evident that you haven't been clear as someone has already said.
Calling people useless is a tad harsh.
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"Nobody wants to put any effort in.for minimum wage ..
Why work hard for less than a tenner .
Trust me sparkle these guys are no where near working for minimum wage which is more the reason I expect better. I'm probably more here venting frustration as I know the answer is to tell a few of them to go home and don't bother coming back. But during these times and Christmas looming I genuinely don't want to do that. Have had the conversations with them but I only got this team 5 weeks ago and fear they may be set in there ways which can't end well for them .
Me id walk in sack.them on the spot .ud have a full new team next day and they would know u mean buisness keep the Welsh guy and make him gaffer then he will buck them up"
And if they are crap, then you know its you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nobody wants to put any effort in.for minimum wage ..
Why work hard for less than a tenner .
Trust me sparkle these guys are no where near working for minimum wage which is more the reason I expect better. I'm probably more here venting frustration as I know the answer is to tell a few of them to go home and don't bother coming back. But during these times and Christmas looming I genuinely don't want to do that. Have had the conversations with them but I only got this team 5 weeks ago and fear they may be set in there ways which can't end well for them .
Me id walk in sack.them on the spot .ud have a full new team next day and they would know u mean buisness keep the Welsh guy and make him gaffer then he will buck them up
And if they are crap, then you know its you. "
.....and then the staff will probably just think you're a "Pest For Life" |
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"So what other nationalities are fucking up there - if you are going to bitch about those ones you should be fair and name all of them afterall...
There's 1 welsh guy but he's OK , its not that there fucking up to much , more as the thread says , zero common sense and initiative. I'm afraid I can't train that into them. So there either useless or at it.
You sound like a really horrible guy to work for..... no interest in your staff at all and you don’t seem to want to coach or develop them.
I stand by my earlier comment that rather than a large random group all being “useless”, I think you’re the problem "
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"Have you tried talking to them instead of moaning about them?."
Not only that, but I've always tried to look internally, especially as a manager or coach, to understand if I need to change how I deal with and interact with certain people in order to get the best out of them |
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My personal experience of all of the above nationalities and more who spoke very little English was actually that they far exceeded their expectations and worked a lot harder than us natives because they had a lot more to lose  more often than not technical documents and written English/diagrams were a great deal easier for most folk to grasp than word of mouth, major differences between a leader and a manager ! I think in my professional career I displayed a pretty good balance of the two and my results spoke for themselves perhaps someone needs to fo on a management and leadership course |
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Also reading between the lines of previous threads and replies to posts on here I think they probably think you’re a wanker and are doing it because they have zero respect or liking for you and they’re making a point of showing you up |
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Dreadfull character by all accounts . Mentioning different nationalities, and saying they are all well spoken in English ! Why does it matter where they are from ? Feel sorry for the folks . Was prob not “ common sense “ to have your rant . But by all means be yourself . |
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"Have you tried talking to them instead of moaning about them?.
Not only that, but I've always tried to look internally, especially as a manager or coach, to understand if I need to change how I deal with and interact with certain people in order to get the best out of them "
Well said this man.
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"I would hold a meeting with them and say how you feel. Tell them if things do not change people will need to go. Talking things through is always the best solution."
How would you feel if you're Boss told you if things didn't change you'll have to go.
Would you see that as an incentive or would it lower you're self esteem. Let's say you're nationality is Romanian with 2 kids. |
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"I would hold a meeting with them and say how you feel. Tell them if things do not change people will need to go. Talking things through is always the best solution.
How would you feel if you're Boss told you if things didn't change you'll have to go.
Would you see that as an incentive or would it lower you're self esteem. Let's say you're nationality is Romanian with 2 kids. "
Hes not the boss , already stated he didnt hire them , hes basically a supervisor. Cant hire , cant fire , just wants to bitch to make himself feel important. |
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"I would hold a meeting with them and say how you feel. Tell them if things do not change people will need to go. Talking things through is always the best solution.
How would you feel if you're Boss told you if things didn't change you'll have to go.
Would you see that as an incentive or would it lower you're self esteem. Let's say you're nationality is Romanian with 2 kids. "
It would make me work harder. Being without a job is not an option for me so i would pull my socks up and do everything i could to remain in the job. |
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"I came across this quote today:
It may not be your fault, but it's still your responsibility. "
Another old saying/quote 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile'.
So you may be correct with your view that they are taking the piss.
However, my experience has shown that when there is collective/group of non performers, albeit they have been employed for their obvious skills, then there will one or two bad apples amongst them. The 'bullet makers the shit stirrers' so to speak. Address your efforts to change them or get them on board. If not successful, them out and get rid of them. Simple as that.
Personally, I think the country went to pot when we abolished the birch..lol lol lol  |
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"Coffee and Carrot cake anyone?
Can I have tea please and carrot cake only of its proper cream cheese topping - such a fussy bitch I know "
Of course, it's good that you're fussy x |
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"So what other nationalities are fucking up there - if you are going to bitch about those ones you should be fair and name all of them afterall...
There's 1 welsh guy but he's OK , its not that there fucking up to much , more as the thread says , zero common sense and initiative. I'm afraid I can't train that into them. So there either useless or at it.
You sound like a really horrible guy to work for..... no interest in your staff at all and you don’t seem to want to coach or develop them.
I stand by my earlier comment that rather than a large random group all being “useless”, I think you’re the problem
Again more assumptions, its not my job to coach, train or boost a self employed persons feelings . I'm there to ensure they do their job . They simply need to do what they are trained for. Its like employing a painter and decorator to paint your house and they come and ask you to open the tin of paint for them. Thats the level we are talking here. Get a grip."
Doubt very much you are even employed, you have absolutely zero management skills, and even if you did, to come on here and whinge about it is totally unprofessional.
I doubt you are fit enough to be in charge, forum rules say you should not badmouth other members or name & shame,
you should adapt that to your place of employment, again if you actually have a job. |
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"I would hold a meeting with them and say how you feel. Tell them if things do not change people will need to go. Talking things through is always the best solution.
How would you feel if you're Boss told you if things didn't change you'll have to go.
Would you see that as an incentive or would it lower you're self esteem. Let's say you're nationality is Romanian with 2 kids.
It would make me work harder. Being without a job is not an option for me so i would pull my socks up and do everything i could to remain in the job."
While looking for a better option x |
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To quote the Bard...
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us,
An' ev'n devotion! |
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"So what other nationalities are fucking up there - if you are going to bitch about those ones you should be fair and name all of them afterall...
There's 1 welsh guy but he's OK , its not that there fucking up to much , more as the thread says , zero common sense and initiative. I'm afraid I can't train that into them. So there either useless or at it.
You sound like a really horrible guy to work for..... no interest in your staff at all and you don’t seem to want to coach or develop them.
I stand by my earlier comment that rather than a large random group all being “useless”, I think you’re the problem
Again more assumptions, its not my job to coach, train or boost a self employed persons feelings . I'm there to ensure they do their job . They simply need to do what they are trained for. Its like employing a painter and decorator to paint your house and they come and ask you to open the tin of paint for them. Thats the level we are talking here. Get a grip.
Doubt very much you are even employed, you have absolutely zero management skills, and even if you did, to come on here and whinge about it is totally unprofessional.
I doubt you are fit enough to be in charge, forum rules say you should not badmouth other members or name & shame,
you should adapt that to your place of employment, again if you actually have a job."
There seems to be a lot of doubts in this post, then you go on to say I should adopt the fab swingers set of rules to manage my staff . Ahahahaha |
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"I came across this quote today:
It may not be your fault, but it's still your responsibility.
Another old saying/quote 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile'.
So you may be correct with your view that they are taking the piss.
However, my experience has shown that when there is collective/group of non performers, albeit they have been employed for their obvious skills, then there will one or two bad apples amongst them. The 'bullet makers the shit stirrers' so to speak. Address your efforts to change them or get them on board. If not successful, them out and get rid of them. Simple as that.
Personally, I think the country went to pot when we abolished the birch..lol lol lol "
Appart from the birch part , pretty much nails it with this summing up. |
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"I came across this quote today:
It may not be your fault, but it's still your responsibility.
Another old saying/quote 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile'.
So you may be correct with your view that they are taking the piss.
However, my experience has shown that when there is collective/group of non performers, albeit they have been employed for their obvious skills, then there will one or two bad apples amongst them. The 'bullet makers the shit stirrers' so to speak. Address your efforts to change them or get them on board. If not successful, them out and get rid of them. Simple as that.
Personally, I think the country went to pot when we abolished the birch..lol lol lol
Appart from the birch part , pretty much nails it with this summing up. "
U still bitching about work  |
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How would you feel if you're Boss told you if things didn't change you'll have to go.
Would you see that as an incentive or would it lower you're self esteem. Let's say you're nationality is Romanian with 2 kids. "
I would pull up my socks , and start doing what I'm paid to do. If I do that then I would have nothing to worry about.
Secondly, I dont need to give them an incentive to do their jobs the fact their on very respectable salaries is there incentive . Simple.!
Since some of you like the old sayings , heres another
You can lead a horse to water , but you can't make it drink.
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"I came across this quote today:
It may not be your fault, but it's still your responsibility.
Another old saying/quote 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile'.
So you may be correct with your view that they are taking the piss.
However, my experience has shown that when there is collective/group of non performers, albeit they have been employed for their obvious skills, then there will one or two bad apples amongst them. The 'bullet makers the shit stirrers' so to speak. Address your efforts to change them or get them on board. If not successful, them out and get rid of them. Simple as that.
Personally, I think the country went to pot when we abolished the birch..lol lol lol
Appart from the birch part , pretty much nails it with this summing up.
U still bitching about work "
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Have you heard of the phrase “Empty vessels make the most noise”? It's a proverb that means that those with the least talent and knowledge usually speak the most, speak the loudest, and create the most fuss — whatever makes their presence felt the most.  |
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"Have you heard of the phrase “Empty vessels make the most noise”? It's a proverb that means that those with the least talent and knowledge usually speak the most, speak the loudest, and create the most fuss — whatever makes their presence felt the most.
Yep 'plato' what other copy and paste proverbs you got.? "
Same place you get yours
YOU are the weakest link lol |
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"Have you heard of the phrase “Empty vessels make the most noise”? It's a proverb that means that those with the least talent and knowledge usually speak the most, speak the loudest, and create the most fuss — whatever makes their presence felt the most.
Yep 'plato' what other copy and paste proverbs you got.?
Same place you get yours
YOU are the weakest link lol "
That must make YOU the missing link |
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"Have you heard of the phrase “Empty vessels make the most noise”? It's a proverb that means that those with the least talent and knowledge usually speak the most, speak the loudest, and create the most fuss — whatever makes their presence felt the most.
Yep 'plato' what other copy and paste proverbs you got.?
Same place you get yours
YOU are the weakest link lol
That must make YOU the missing link "
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"On a serious note...
Why do most of the comments think you're the problem and not the employees that were hired for the job ?
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Mate just water off a ducks back to me, they are all entitled to their opinions, just as I'm entitled to come on and bitch about a group of people they don't know , don't work with, never likely to associate this thread with either. Lol
It was hilarious though , one of the people who blamed me , then went on to say I should take the Fab advice into work. Says it all Lol. |
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By *edeWoman
over a year ago
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Well I'm full of common sense!! Which is probably why I don't take Fab advice into work... Not sure what my manager would think if I 'got my fanny out' at work as was suggested to me twice as a way to improve my profile |
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"Well I'm full of common sense!! Which is probably why I don't take Fab advice into work... Not sure what my manager would think if I 'got my fanny out' at work as was suggested to me twice as a way to improve my profile "
Depends how into you your manager is |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On a serious note...
Why do most of the comments think you're the problem and not the employees that were hired for the job ?
Mate just water off a ducks back to me, they are all entitled to their opinions, just as I'm entitled to come on and bitch about a group of people they don't know , don't work with, never likely to associate this thread with either. Lol
It was hilarious though , one of the people who blamed me , then went on to say I should take the Fab advice into work. Says it all Lol. "
Here is the fab advice, a thing you fail to do....... Don't badmouth |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On a serious note...
Why do most of the comments think you're the problem and not the employees that were hired for the job ?
Mate just water off a ducks back to me, they are all entitled to their opinions, just as I'm entitled to come on and bitch about a group of people they don't know , don't work with, never likely to associate this thread with either. Lol
It was hilarious though , one of the people who blamed me , then went on to say I should take the Fab advice into work. Says it all Lol.
Here is the fab advice, a thing you fail to do....... Don't badmouth"
So we can't come on the forums and call bojo and NS a pair of useless cnuts , or does that fab rule only apply to my line of work. Lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Doubt very much you are even employed, you have absolutely zero management skills, and even if you did, to come on here and whinge about it is totally unprofessional.
I doubt you are fit enough to be in charge, forum rules say you should not badmouth other members or name & shame,
you should adapt that to your place of employment, again if you actually have a job."
So you post this ^^^^^^ " roadhouse" then preach to me that Fab advice says you shouldn't bad mouth others. Priceless , absolutely priceless. |
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"Soooo, hows the fence lines today?? 
Oh you stirrer....big wooden spoon lol
Should be a wooden metre ruler surely
Well I'm a sucker for a bit off spoon action "
I’m just a sucker |
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"Soooo, hows the fence lines today??
Oh you stirrer....big wooden spoon lol
Should be a wooden metre ruler surely
Well I'm a sucker for a bit off spoon action
I’m just a sucker "
Keep talkin, I'm at the tickley bit.
As I gently sand my 9" 3x2 mahogany bubinga swirl shaft. |
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"Soooo, hows the fence lines today??
Oh you stirrer....big wooden spoon lol
Should be a wooden metre ruler surely
Well I'm a sucker for a bit off spoon action
I’m just a sucker
Keep talkin, I'm at the tickley bit.
As I gently sand my 9" 3x2 mahogany bubinga swirl shaft. "
Oooer |
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"They’re taking the piss. "
They were , your right.
Dropping a 'not so subtle hint' that there may be a few people who will no longer be required, seems to have done the trick. As said earlier in the thread , people see being easy going as a weakness, its definitely not .
Cheers for all the comments, even the usual contingent that used it as an opportunity to get the expected digs in.
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"All this digging in the wrong place is getting serious now!!  sorry I'll take myself away now "
Never make light of “manstuff” my dear Cede, it’s VERY serious |
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"They’re taking the piss.
They were , your right.
Dropping a 'not so subtle hint' that there may be a few people who will no longer be required, seems to have done the trick. As said earlier in the thread , people see being easy going as a weakness, its definitely not .
Cheers for all the comments, even the usual contingent that used it as an opportunity to get the expected digs in.
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Don't get too excited, it doesn't last. Old habits come back, you let a couple slip because they've been trying. Before you know it, too many mistakes are being made and you'll be pulling them up again. Good luck |
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And I work with some managers who need to micro manage every little detail because they are narcissists who believe they and only they can do the job
They speak English well too
Although one has the most irritating high pitched weegie accent |
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"Working with a bunch of people that can only be described as fuckin useless.
Need to micro manage every little detail, no common sense, no initiative to see what is required and act upon it.
So do you think they really are as thick as mince or simply taking the piss.
Polish, Romanian, Indian, English and few other nationalities. All speak English well enough to understand what is required. "
Common sense isn't what it used to be; it's not common any more.
That and getting the best out of people clearly isn't your strong suit.
You could get a job working alone, maybe? Then you'd have nobody to let you down. |
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"Working with a bunch of people that can only be described as fuckin useless.
Need to micro manage every little detail, no common sense, no initiative to see what is required and act upon it.
So do you think they really are as thick as mince or simply taking the piss.
Polish, Romanian, Indian, English and few other nationalities. All speak English well enough to understand what is required. "
There is an old saying "pay peanuts and hire monkeys".
I have encountered so many employers over the years delighted to be able to get cheap labour. Often letting well educated, skilled and experienced locals exit only to be replaced by cheaper alternatives.
Is this a possible explanation?
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"Working with a bunch of people that can only be described as fuckin useless.
Need to micro manage every little detail, no common sense, no initiative to see what is required and act upon it.
So do you think they really are as thick as mince or simply taking the piss.
Polish, Romanian, Indian, English and few other nationalities. All speak English well enough to understand what is required.
There is an old saying "pay peanuts and hire monkeys".
I have encountered so many employers over the years delighted to be able to get cheap labour. Often letting well educated, skilled and experienced locals exit only to be replaced by cheaper alternatives.
Is this a possible explanation?
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Not a chance . |
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"And I work with some managers who need to micro manage every little detail because they are narcissists who believe they and only they can do the job
They speak English well too
Although one has the most irritating high pitched weegie accent "
If you read back you will find the whole thread is about my NOT wanting to micro manage but finding it a necessity. |
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By *edeWoman
over a year ago
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"All this digging in the wrong place is getting serious now!!
You watch it lady.!!
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Now I have to watch the digging?? Is this your way of getting me to supervise for you?? What do I get out of it? |
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