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over a year ago
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is it really a pandemic or plandemic with all leading scientist coming out and now being able to voice their experties and opinions about the virus. Are you gonna trust the GOV and WHO with the numbers they are putting out  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes I will go with the experts. I don't believe in a worldwide conspiracy, but others do... it's cool. Good luck though  "
Aye this, however I do think the media has a lot to answer for and not just covid conspiracy theories but people all have their own thoughts. |
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over a year ago
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I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though! |
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!"
....Reading back my first sentence....I don't mean I'm an expert  |
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!
....Reading back my first sentence....I don't mean I'm an expert "
Hope they get through it ok. I’ve been lucky I guess that no one close has suffered from it. May have had it myself and not been affected. I certainly don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theories. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!"
all the best to your family |
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!
....Reading back my first sentence....I don't mean I'm an sexpert "
I thought you were ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!
....Reading back my first sentence....I don't mean I'm an expert
Hope they get through it ok. I’ve been lucky I guess that no one close has suffered from it. May have had it myself and not been affected. I certainly don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theories. "
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!
all the best to your family "
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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!
all the best to your family "
I'll second that, all the best and I hope your family comes through this.
As for "the young don't get it", 4 of my youngest's (18yo) friend group have been diagnosed with CV19 in the last 10 weeks... |
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!"
Been through it myself mrs Doggy, hope they all get through with no serious after effects.
As far as global conspiracies go, put a dozen doctors/researchers in a room and ask them to reach a consensus on any science you will end up with a riot. How anyone thinks that the global medical/science community could pull off a conspiracy this big is mental.
Its not just tinfoil hats for them, its tinfoil lined armadillo shell helmets. |
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By *bostCouple
over a year ago
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For what it is worth, I (Mr) was chatting to a Epidemiologist today who thought we could be dealing with this as we are into early summer next year. Even with a vaccine they thought it could become like flu (become, they weren’t saying it is like flu just now) and have a season (possibly co-including with flu season as more folk are indoors) with 7-10k deaths each year in the uk. Frightening. |
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"For what it is worth, I (Mr) was chatting to a Epidemiologist today who thought we could be dealing with this as we are into early summer next year. Even with a vaccine they thought it could become like flu (become, they weren’t saying it is like flu just now) and have a season (possibly co-including with flu season as more folk are indoors) with 7-10k deaths each year in the uk. Frightening. "
I would agree, not an expert, but I have enough intelligence to look at the data from previous coronavirus outbreaks and see the pattern.
3 main waves 2nd is the worst, lasting around 18 months and annual re-occurances in small outbreaks.
MERS, SARS, Spanish flu, all the same pattern. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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....and then the next debate is the vaccine.
How many people will be willing to take a vaccine that has (understandably!) been created in such a relatively short space of time? I know plenty who are saying no way. |
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"I change my opinion on a daily basis....much like many of the experts as the data and studies are released.
Having 3 family members (1 currently in hospital seriously ill) with Covid I'm fairly certain it's not some massive bloody conspiracy though!"
I also have 2 family members fighting the biggest fight of their life right now .
One admitted to hospital last week one in an induced coma & ventilated the other admitted today same household .
Its terrifying & certainly really to us ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"....and then the next debate is the vaccine.
How many people will be willing to take a vaccine that has (understandably!) been created in such a relatively short space of time? I know plenty who are saying no way."
Vaccine is another tottal realm |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sick of opinions to be honest, and the edgy fucktards who toss controversy into discussions like its all a game.
The reality, and only choice we have as individuals, is to look after yourself and those close to you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We shouldn't even give the covid conspiracy theorists the time of day , they will find out when it hits their loved ones that its very much real.
Mrs Doggy and naughty miss D hope your families make a timely recovery. Take care guys and try to keep your chin up. Xx |
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"We shouldn't even give the covid conspiracy theorists the time of day , they will find out when it hits their loved ones that its very much real.
Mrs Doggy and naughty miss D hope your families make a timely recovery. Take care guys and try to keep your chin up. Xx"
Thank you Xx |
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"We shouldn't even give the covid conspiracy theorists the time of day , they will find out when it hits their loved ones that its very much real.
Mrs Doggy and naughty miss D hope your families make a timely recovery. Take care guys and try to keep your chin up. Xx"
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when you are called to pick up a patient, to take and be tested, arrive at the patients door to be told they got fed up waiting and took a taxi, it makes you wonder what goes on in the minds of some people.
Covid ward 17 in ninewells is almost full right now and talks taking place to open up ward 18 as a further covid ward (for confirmed cases)
ward 42 still open for unconfirmed. |
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"Yes I will go with the experts. I don't believe in a worldwide conspiracy, but others do... it's cool. Good luck though "
but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture |
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"but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture"
Who cares? If there's been one constant, it's been the basic advice to keep yourself and your loved ones safe, abs that hasn't changed since the beginning.
The "bigger picture" has hee-haw to do with most peoples daily lives outwith politics, media and claptrap theorising. |
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"but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture
Who cares? If there's been one constant, it's been the basic advice to keep yourself and your loved ones safe, abs that hasn't changed since the beginning.
The "bigger picture" has hee-haw to do with most peoples daily lives outwith politics, media and claptrap theorising. "
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"but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture
Who cares? If there's been one constant, it's been the basic advice to keep yourself and your loved ones safe, abs that hasn't changed since the beginning.
The "bigger picture" has hee-haw to do with most peoples daily lives outwith politics, media and claptrap theorising. "
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"but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture
Who cares? If there's been one constant, it's been the basic advice to keep yourself and your loved ones safe, abs that hasn't changed since the beginning.
The "bigger picture" has hee-haw to do with most peoples daily lives outwith politics, media and claptrap theorising. "
so how do you keep yourself and loved ones safe?
In order to do this you need clear advice from experts last I checked I don't hold a degree in virology so I Nedd advice on protection measures and what advice you get is dependant on who you listen too.
Your the one mentioning the bigger picture not me I said you need a fuller picture without all the skewed nonsense dished out by anyone who wants their face on the tv |
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"so how do you keep yourself and loved ones safe?
In order to do this you need clear advice from experts last I checked I don't hold a degree in virology so I Nedd advice on protection measures and what advice you get is dependant on who you listen too."
I repeat, the basic advice hasn't changed. If you need *more* experts to give you advice, you clearly haven't been paying attention. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Yes I will go with the experts. I don't believe in a worldwide conspiracy, but others do... it's cool. Good luck though but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture"
I keep it really simple
Dr Hilary Jones
Dr Sarah Jarvis
Dr Amir Khan
My sister who lectured infection control in hospitals for her career. She told me to wash my hands, sanitise them and wear a mask. I have done so most of the time. I would be a hypocrite if I said all of the time.
I am responsible for me and me alone, I follow my sisters advice and I don’t suggest others do what I say or do. It’s up to them..
15 years ago when I was very active in swinging, multiple meets some days, swinging clubs and parties at my house, I might have taken more risks if I needed my fix of sex and attention, now I don’t. But again, what others do or who they believe is up to them and I wish them a safe outcome. |
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"so how do you keep yourself and loved ones safe?
In order to do this you need clear advice from experts last I checked I don't hold a degree in virology so I Nedd advice on protection measures and what advice you get is dependant on who you listen too.
I repeat, the basic advice hasn't changed. If you need *more* experts to give you advice, you clearly haven't been paying attention. "
what basic advice lol there's so many different basic advices from lots of different agency's and you just going to lock yourself and loved ones up indefinatly scrubbing with alcohol gel and holding your breath as you change masks.
So I repeat who's basic advice that hasn't changed because I'm afraid if you mean the govts advice it changes more times than a whores knickers while medical advice is constantly changing eg there's data showing a trend that certain mineral supplements are found low in case studies so supplementing these could be a good preventative measure but hey disregard Al that and hide in the pantry |
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"Yes I will go with the experts. I don't believe in a worldwide conspiracy, but others do... it's cool. Good luck though but who are the experts as there is conflicting _iews from the medical/science sector and the govt.
Imo the media are causing major problems with skewed _iews and opinions peddled out as daily while ommiting key points that paint a fuller picture
I keep it really simple
Dr Hilary Jones
Dr Sarah Jarvis
Dr Amir Khan
My sister who lectured infection control in hospitals for her career. She told me to wash my hands, sanitise them and wear a mask. I have done so most of the time. I would be a hypocrite if I said all of the time.
I am responsible for me and me alone, I follow my sisters advice and I don’t suggest others do what I say or do. It’s up to them..
15 years ago when I was very active in swinging, multiple meets some days, swinging clubs and parties at my house, I might have taken more risks if I needed my fix of sex and attention, now I don’t. But again, what others do or who they believe is up to them and I wish them a safe outcome. "
at last an honest answer for what it's worth I do those things and also started on supplements as they take 14 days to get in your system correctly.
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"so how do you keep yourself and loved ones safe?
In order to do this you need clear advice from experts last I checked I don't hold a degree in virology so I Nedd advice on protection measures and what advice you get is dependant on who you listen too.
I repeat, the basic advice hasn't changed. If you need *more* experts to give you advice, you clearly haven't been paying attention. what basic advice lol there's so many different basic advices from lots of different agency's and you just going to lock yourself and loved ones up indefinatly scrubbing with alcohol gel and holding your breath as you change masks.
So I repeat who's basic advice that hasn't changed because I'm afraid if you mean the govts advice it changes more times than a whores knickers while medical advice is constantly changing eg there's data showing a trend that certain mineral supplements are found low in case studies so supplementing these could be a good preventative measure but hey disregard Al that and hide in the pantry "
so you too will hide in the pantry , only your pantry will be full of supplements lol
There's data on many things kola , lots of it is just bluster. How many were in this case study you speak of , how reliable is the data, who validated the data you speak of , yet you are choosing to follow it by taking supplements lol. You accept this but are questioning what is classed as basic advice by the government's lol . You say the government's advice is always changing but you too are picking and choosing what you want to believe and act upon. So what's wrong with following the government's basic advice. We all choose what we think is right for us . Right or wrong we will all find out eventually if our own personal measures were good enough. |
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"so how do you keep yourself and loved ones safe?
In order to do this you need clear advice from experts last I checked I don't hold a degree in virology so I Nedd advice on protection measures and what advice you get is dependant on who you listen too.
I repeat, the basic advice hasn't changed. If you need *more* experts to give you advice, you clearly haven't been paying attention. what basic advice lol there's so many different basic advices from lots of different agency's and you just going to lock yourself and loved ones up indefinatly scrubbing with alcohol gel and holding your breath as you change masks.
So I repeat who's basic advice that hasn't changed because I'm afraid if you mean the govts advice it changes more times than a whores knickers while medical advice is constantly changing eg there's data showing a trend that certain mineral supplements are found low in case studies so supplementing these could be a good preventative measure but hey disregard Al that and hide in the pantry so you too will hide in the pantry , only your pantry will be full of supplements lol
There's data on many things kola , lots of it is just bluster. How many were in this case study you speak of , how reliable is the data, who validated the data you speak of , yet you are choosing to follow it by taking supplements lol. You accept this but are questioning what is classed as basic advice by the government's lol . You say the government's advice is always changing but you too are picking and choosing what you want to believe and act upon. So what's wrong with following the government's basic advice. We all choose what we think is right for us . Right or wrong we will all find out eventually if our own personal measures were good enough. "
and that's my point its our decision to make and in order to make these decisions you need the best advice and data what you don't need is media spin govt spin or any fucker who wants on the TV banging out stupidity.
the data was gathered from cdc and who data. The correlation needs more study but the raw figures point very clearly to the more severe effects are in persons with diminished mineral lvls. I choose to follow it as it can do no harm and cost is miniscule.
I never said there was anything wrong in following the govt advice if you chose I said who is the experts as there is so much conflicting advice.
Old saying to many cooks spoil the broth seem apt imo
I prefer medical advice to come from medical experts simple |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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The 'official' figures being put out are totally skewed. At least a third of the deaths attributed to Covid, aren't. And they keep talking about cases, when they should be talking about hospital admissions.
It's all to stoke up the needless fear factor, I sometimes wonder if Boris and Sturgeon have some perverted wish to keep it going! And the Track & Trace system is a complete and utter shambles!!   |
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Definitely think the virus is real there’s no doubting in that, I do think some of the restrictions that have been put in place are over the top.
Masks, hygiene and distancing are the obvious ones that are key to slowing the spread it’s shocking that people need to be reminded about washing their hands but let’s be honest I’m sure we’ve all came across people thats bodies are strangers to a bar of soap :D. People that complain about masks need to grow up unless you’re on a long bus/train journey or in a hospital most places only require you to wear one for short time. Whilst it would be good to meet others more socially;) I can wait not that desperate for a meet to twist the rules.
Closing pubs/restaurants is mental 99% of venues are complying with what’s required but are being punished because 1% aren’t bothering which is only leading to people breaking the rules, go after the businesses that are breaking the rules and also the individuals make fines instant and of an amount that should discourage future breaches.
The vaccine is a tough one I get peoples fears over the speed it’s being developed at but on the other hand with technology as advanced as it is now is it possible to have one developed so quickly? Science/chemistry is a business if they show that it’s possible to have vaccines/drugs out quickly then why would companies/governments spend more money on years of R&D than they need too?
Hopefully soon we’ll all be able to meet again but until then wash your hands, wear a mask and if you really need an itch scratched DIY lol |
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The thing is I dont understand the hospitality punishments not e everyone goes out to get bladdered ,I felt safer in a pub where t&t was implemented and social distance adhered to then I do at work ,where no masks required in communal areas ,we work side by side within inches of multiple households in enclosed hot environment and hmi screens are used by multiple folks ,All perfectly legal within current guidelines issued by SG because of our industry......it a hard pill to swallow that I cant visit my granny but can mix with co.workers ,I think the rules need clarity and more enforcement in the workplaces and loopholes closed |
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"I remember the Scottish Government telling us and insisting that Masks did not work!
Looks like they were right."
lol, when have they ever been right, they change their tune every week
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"The thing is I dont understand the hospitality punishments not e everyone goes out to get bladdered ,I felt safer in a pub where t&t was implemented and social distance adhered to then I do at work ,where no masks required in communal areas ,we work side by side within inches of multiple households in enclosed hot environment and hmi screens are used by multiple folks ,All perfectly legal within current guidelines issued by SG because of our industry......it a hard pill to swallow that I cant visit my granny but can mix with co.workers ,I think the rules need clarity and more enforcement in the workplaces and loopholes closed "
I can kinda get the alcohol concerns but the establishments breaking the laws should be targeted instead of this all must suffer attitude. It’s the restaurant/cafe I don’t get one of each next to each other both the same size one must close the other can’t but also a a small family restaurant must close but international fast food outlets can have people seated inside |
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"complete incompetence.
What’s your pandemic strategy ? "
I keep myself safe and keep my distance from others, I live in a good rural location with plenty access to the hills & mountains, I do how ever drive ambulance, so great care is taking when at work
basically common sense, which most politicians do not have.
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"complete incompetence.
What’s your pandemic strategy ?
I keep myself safe and keep my distance from others, I live in a good rural location with plenty access to the hills & mountains, I do how ever drive ambulance, so great care is taking when at work
basically common sense, which most politicians do not have.
back to you;
whats your strategy"
Think I’ll put my faith in the advisors and scot govt over a ambulance driving country boy.
You’ve still not given a strategy to tackle Covid only reduce risk to yourself and others. Basics. |
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"complete incompetence.
What’s your pandemic strategy ?
I keep myself safe and keep my distance from others, I live in a good rural location with plenty access to the hills & mountains, I do how ever drive ambulance, so great care is taking when at work
basically common sense, which most politicians do not have.
back to you;
whats your strategy
Think I’ll put my faith in the advisors and scot govt over a ambulance driving country boy.
You’ve still not given a strategy to tackle Covid only reduce risk to yourself and others. Basics. "
you have already lost when you start the name calling |
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"complete incompetence.
What’s your pandemic strategy ?
I keep myself safe and keep my distance from others, I live in a good rural location with plenty access to the hills & mountains, I do how ever drive ambulance, so great care is taking when at work
basically common sense, which most politicians do not have.
back to you;
whats your strategy
Think I’ll put my faith in the advisors and scot govt over a ambulance driving country boy.
You’ve still not given a strategy to tackle Covid only reduce risk to yourself and others. Basics.
you have already lost when you start the name calling "
Can you show us how by your own admission driving an ambulance and being a country boy is name calling ?
Deflecting from your non excitant Covid strategy which were all waiting to hear so that I can rip it to bits  |
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"I work in a testing site and it’s definitely not a conspiracy although the numbers aren’t as high as they would let u believe "
numbers are creeping up in Tayside although still relatively low
ninewells ward 42 is constant with admissions and discharges, covid ward 17 full, and a new covid ward 18 just opened.
I was tested yesterday, its a very easy pain free procedure |
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