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Covid and looming winter
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Okay so we all know about areas in Britain currently being locked down or at risk of it. Whats everyones thoughts regarding winter time in a few months? Are we going to see a so called 2nd wave, will it be a winter of discontent.....or is the media stirring as usual? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think a second wave is possible but not because it's winter. If the local lockdowns work we will be ok.
The worry about winter is the addition of covid into an already stretched NHS. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Will be a second wave, but the media will stir it up. Every winter they predict it will be the worst winter ever. Anything to sell a newspaper and some people believe everything that's in them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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lockdown by xmas for everyone 
I hope you are wrong but wouldn't be surprised. Would be a strange Christmas if we are on lockdown. But I expect Mr Claus will have a travel corridor exemption. |
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By *eep.Man
over a year ago
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What worries me is that the low death rate now could be thanks to summer weather = more distancing and more outdoors activities = less viral load if unlucky enough to be infected, more vitamin D reducing bradykinin storms.
Winter is a different landscape entirely.
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I think a second wave is inevitable and I fear it will be much worse than the first.
With schools back just a few weeks ago, Universities going back as we speak and other relaxations in restrictions, I think it will hit us well before Christmas.
The only thing that will stop it (in my non-expert opinion) are more strict restrictions in the near future.
I will be delighted if I’m wrong.
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There won't be another lockdown the country can't take it, already thousands looking at redundancy at end of October cookie has already been told by her bosses she wont jave a job end of October. Hospitality industry is dieing! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yup. That will be just around the time the recession starts to hit. Plus don’t forget the looming Brexit which is looking likelier and likelier to be a no-deal exit. Economy will be in shatters and COVID is the icing on the cake!
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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The schools are back, infections on the rise, but has anybody died? No!
Has anybody been hospitalised? No!
Mass house parties? Where is all the infections from them???
It's all the contradictions and inconsistencies which are driving the fear factor needlessly.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2nd wave, possible but far from inevitable. Worse than the first, I don't think so.
1 - We have a body of knowledge regarding treatment for severe covid that didn't exist in March.
2 - The infection profile appears to be different. More infections in the younger, fitter population. Makes for scary infection numbers but few hospitalisations and fewer deaths.
3 - Better general hygine all round & much greater risk awareness should help reduce the risk.
4 - Faster, more readily available testing. Should help avoid people spreading the disease when thry think they've just got a cold.
Ideally we will see an acceptance of regular mass population testing as a viable way to keep infection rates manageable withiut strangling the economy.
We desperately need to see a return to real normality & soon if huge swathes of our economy aren't to disappear for good. Hospitality is a wreck, travel & tourism on it's knees, much of the service sector near the brink and even retail is struggling. This can't continue unless we all want to end up living in the western equivelant of a third world country.
If we don't find a way back to normality very soo I fear the wave of redundancies and bankruptcies waiting this winter will be truly apocalyptic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We're in the 2nd wave already, it's started and going to get bigger. There will be no return to what was only adapting to what is and how it changes. We're looking at two or more years of COIVD 19 issues. A crippling recessions has started because of it and will grow and spiral. So enjoy these times now they ain't going to last |
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"I think we will see a rise in infections but not deaths. If you look af the media hype it's all scare stories about infection and the actual deaths are now way down in the report."
Most infections are now youth, who tend not to die of it. But if lots of them get it, it then spreads quickly amongst everyone so the older generation will start dying again.
But death isn't the only thing covid offers, so many people who had it are being left with life limiting breathing difficulties and issues, this is going to become a bigger problem long term for people and the nhs. |
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"The schools are back, infections on the rise, but has anybody died? No!
Has anybody been hospitalised? No!
Mass house parties? Where is all the infections from them???
It's all the contradictions and inconsistencies which are driving the fear factor needlessly.
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Has anybody died...yes 3 today...
Has anyone been hospitalised….yes, quite a few in Scotland and increases in all other home nations today.
Contradictions are solely based on what each nation thinks it appropriate for that nation and I assume that will continue.
However, until NS takes a hard stand and approach to addressing those who blatantly ignore guidance and advice then numbers will increase and deaths will rise..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're in the 2nd wave already, it's started and going to get bigger. There will be no return to what was only adapting to what is and how it changes. We're looking at two or more years of COIVD 19 issues. A crippling recessions has started because of it and will grow and spiral. So enjoy these times now they ain't going to last"
Exactly right. There are fewer deaths because social distancing etc reduces the viral load inhaled so disease is less acute. It’s not a respecter of age- young people are dying but what is potentially more dangerous is the possibility of it affecting the next generation of unborn. It is here forever. |
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"The schools are back, infections on the rise, but has anybody died? No!
Has anybody been hospitalised? No!
Mass house parties? Where is all the infections from them???
It's all the contradictions and inconsistencies which are driving the fear factor needlessly.
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Well there are currently 259 in hospital with covid so it's not a no.
Most positive cases at this time are younger people who we know it does not affect as bad as older people which may explain why they're are not seeing increasing deaths.
It is also more important now, given evidence from places like Northern Italy, to remember the damage left to people with scarred lungs and other life limiting injuries after having caught covid. It's not all about the deaths.
There aren't mass house parties everywhere, some are making the news, but how many really are there?
With hindsight we know UK delayed lockdown which caused our big initial spike, taking positive action earlier, as is happening with local lockdowns, to try and limit interactions to stop the spread while still trying to get back to normality |
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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago
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Instead of publishing figures of infection, it would be far more relevant to publish hospital admissions, and I'll bet there would be a huge reduction.
The simple fact is........that we can't keep printing money for ever, meanwhile businesses are going bust, people are losing their jobs, and..................!! |
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"Instead of publishing figures of infection, it would be far more relevant to publish hospital admissions, and I'll bet there would be a huge reduction.
The simple fact is........that we can't keep printing money for ever, meanwhile businesses are going bust, people are losing their jobs, and..................!!"
They have to let the public know the figures that`s the only way they're able to control the infection rate. It wouldn't make scene not to publish the infection rate and say to people to lockdown or max 6 people in a gathering. I do agree we can`t print money for ever but peoples health comes first before money in my mind maybe not in the Prime Minister`s mind.
What makes you think there would be a huge reduction, reduction in what? |
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