The Tories have just delivered a labour budget and Corbyn should be claiming some credit for moving the agenda instead of whinging on like the old bloke in the pub who always has something to moan about. Labour falling apart while he is still allowed to be spokesman. |
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"yeah just watched it now watching corbyn,s reply, fuck cant wait to get another leader of the opposition he,s lost the plot."
sadly corbyn will be replaced with more of the same shame as we need an leader who will be capable of wining not just shouting |
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Good to see the Tories adopting left-wing budgetary policy to attempt to repair the damage they've done over the past decade and more.
A lot's been promised and funding it may require even more borrowing depending upon how Covid 19 and Brexit play out. I say borrowing because the only people in a position to pay more tax are Tory voters - and they're fireproof for at least five years.
Have to say, out of it all, the one set of promises he made, that I really hope are kept, are the ones that are pro-environment.
It wasn't a bad budget - mainly because it wasn't a Tory budget. |
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"I heard the last 20 minutes of the budget then the start of Corbyn's negativity
He was terrible. Sad to hear. Rishi Sunak was like a breath of fresh air! "
Where did he get all that money from??? |
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Excellent Budget
time for a second home
and great news for us filling up at the forecourts with fuel as well as for us who enjoy a drink or two
as for the tree huggers and greenies - ohhh dear |
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"Excellent Budget
time for a second home
and great news for us filling up at the forecourts with fuel as well as for us who enjoy a drink or two
as for the tree huggers and greenies - ohhh dear "
Greta ain’t going to be happy. |
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"Excellent Budget
time for a second home
and great news for us filling up at the forecourts with fuel as well as for us who enjoy a drink or two
as for the tree huggers and greenies - ohhh dear
Greta ain’t going to be happy. "
Greta who????? |
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"I heard the last 20 minutes of the budget then the start of Corbyn's negativity
He was terrible. Sad to hear. Rishi Sunak was like a breath of fresh air!
Where did he get all that money from??? "
IR35! |
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"I heard the last 20 minutes of the budget then the start of Corbyn's negativity
He was terrible. Sad to hear. Rishi Sunak was like a breath of fresh air!
Where did he get all that money from???
IR35! "
Magic money tree? What is the current deficit ? |
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"Excellent Budget
time for a second home
and great news for us filling up at the forecourts with fuel as well as for us who enjoy a drink or two
as for the tree huggers and greenies - ohhh dear "
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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Bad budget,yes deal with virus but a lot of the other stuff should have been left for now,borrowing like this is bad,very unhappy with this budget.Does nothing for local councels the emphasis is wrong,that is my opinion anyway |
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"Some non scientist kid who snarls a lot ...Donald trumps got her sussed out
Doubt it, Donald has the virus no m8 the only virus the don has is orange syndrome....and another 5 years of prez"
Doubt it, the fat fucker will be dead within 2 years |
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"Excellent Budget
time for a second home
and great news for us filling up at the forecourts with fuel as well as for us who enjoy a drink or two
as for the tree huggers and greenies - ohhh dear
Greta ain’t going to be happy. "
A budget which goes a small distance in repairing 10 years of damaging austerity. Odd that the money that apparently hasnt been available for a decade is suddenly produced like a rabbit from the hat |
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"Some non scientist kid who snarls a lot ...Donald trumps got her sussed out
Doubt it, Donald has the virus no m8 the only virus the don has is orange syndrome....and another 5 years of prez
Doubt it, the fat fucker will be dead within 2 years "
Doubt it - have you seen his wife?? |
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"Some non scientist kid who snarls a lot ...Donald trumps got her sussed out
Doubt it, Donald has the virus no m8 the only virus the don has is orange syndrome....and another 5 years of prez
Doubt it, the fat fucker will be dead within 2 years
Doubt it - have you seen his wife??"
What has his wife got to do with it |
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"yeah just watched it now watching corbyn,s reply, fuck cant wait to get another leader of the opposition he,s lost the plot."
The labour party will elect a corbyn 2.0
They have too many far left memento types running the show.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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This is a high spending Labour budget funded by borrowing.
Utter hypocrisy.
Much spending will just make up for cuts made over several years.
High spending on environment and research and development.
The interest rate has barely changed over the last ten years so no reason why any of this could not have been done years ago.
The single biggest hole is in elderly care. The Prime Minister claimed that they had a plan ready to go. Nothing to be seen though.
Impressive that the Tory party has mange to separate itself from its own precious policies and actions and is starting to solve the problems that it created itself.
Will have to see what delivery looks like. However, if government goes to war with the civil service all of this will fail. |
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"Some non scientist kid who snarls a lot ...Donald trumps got her sussed out
Doubt it, Donald has the virus no m8 the only virus the don has is orange syndrome....and another 5 years of prez
Doubt it, the fat fucker will be dead within 2 years " bloody hell your good ...now you even know when he will be dead ... |
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"Some non scientist kid who snarls a lot ...Donald trumps got her sussed out
Doubt it, Donald has the virus no m8 the only virus the don has is orange syndrome....and another 5 years of prez
Doubt it, the fat fucker will be dead within 2 years bloody hell your good ...now you even know when he will be dead ..."
How do you know he won’t? Have you seen the state of him? He is massively over weight |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"This is a high spending Labour budget funded by borrowing.
Utter hypocrisy.
Much spending will just make up for cuts made over several years.
High spending on environment and research and development.
The interest rate has barely changed over the last ten years so no reason why any of this could not have been done years ago.
The single biggest hole is in elderly care. The Prime Minister claimed that they had a plan ready to go. Nothing to be seen though.
Impressive that the Tory party has mange to separate itself from its own precious policies and actions and is starting to solve the problems that it created itself.
Will have to see what delivery looks like. However, if government goes to war with the civil service all of this will fail." You make it all sound so simple but the truth is in 2009/10 we were borrowing 10.2% of nation income by cutting borrowing getting more people in jobs the 2018/19 borrowing was down to 1.9% of national income which is why they can borrow now.If labour had not left the country in such a shit state im sure things might have been different we can only be thankful that with what is going on we have a strong economy . |
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"This is a high spending Labour budget funded by borrowing.
Utter hypocrisy.
Much spending will just make up for cuts made over several years.
High spending on environment and research and development.
The interest rate has barely changed over the last ten years so no reason why any of this could not have been done years ago.
The single biggest hole is in elderly care. The Prime Minister claimed that they had a plan ready to go. Nothing to be seen though.
Impressive that the Tory party has mange to separate itself from its own precious policies and actions and is starting to solve the problems that it created itself.
Will have to see what delivery looks like. However, if government goes to war with the civil service all of this will fail.You make it all sound so simple but the truth is in 2009/10 we were borrowing 10.2% of nation income by cutting borrowing getting more people in jobs the 2018/19 borrowing was down to 1.9% of national income which is why they can borrow now.If labour had not left the country in such a shit state im sure things might have been different we can only be thankful that with what is going on we have a strong economy ."
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The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
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"The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"This is a high spending Labour budget funded by borrowing.
Utter hypocrisy.
Much spending will just make up for cuts made over several years.
High spending on environment and research and development.
The interest rate has barely changed over the last ten years so no reason why any of this could not have been done years ago.
The single biggest hole is in elderly care. The Prime Minister claimed that they had a plan ready to go. Nothing to be seen though.
Impressive that the Tory party has manged to separate itself from its own precious policies and actions and is starting to solve the problems that it created itself.
Will have to see what delivery looks like. However, if government goes to war with the civil service all of this will fail.You make it all sound so simple but the truth is in 2009/10 we were borrowing 10.2% of nation income by cutting borrowing getting more people in jobs the 2018/19 borrowing was down to 1.9% of national income which is why they can borrow now.If labour had not left the country in such a shit state im sure things might have been different we can only be thankful that with what is going on we have a strong economy ."
Hopefully it is absolutely clear that this is a simplification without going into incredible detail. Too many people on this forum seem to think that things really are simple and one policy will fix everything. These political promises are often made and always fail, yet people still continue to believe them.
I certainly do not think the Labour government did everything right. Not by a long shot. They inherited an economy where lot of public service spending was desperately needed but the disaster of public/private "partnerships" and the stupidity (repeated generation after generation) of believing that boom and bust was "Cured" was pretty staggering.
I am actually wrong about government borrowing rates not having fallen. I was mistakenly thinking that commercial rates were tracking a similar path, which they are not. Government borrowing has fallen, in every developed company globally. The UK went from 5.01% in 2007 to 1.46% in 2018. It was at 1.92% in 2012 though and 1.31% in 2016. France went from 4.3% to 0.78%. Germany 4.22% to 0.4%. Japan from 1.67% to 0.7% and the USA from 4.63% to 2.91%.
Does that tell you that every government everywhere was doing a terrible job and have all performed exceptionally well since? Perhaps there was some significant financial event that led to a coordinated global response has also led on to a range of broadly similar borrowing outcomes?
This is high spending based on high borrowing. Do you disagree?
Interest rates have been objectively low, and lower, before now so this could have happened far earlier. Do you disagree?
Much of the new spending will have to make up for previous cuts. Do you disagree?
The claim that there was a plan for elderly care ready to go is just not true and it is an huge and important gap. Do you disagree?
I have made the points to address as simple and direct as possible. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
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I'd criticise an equivalent Labour budget in the same way except for the fact that they probably would not be reversing the same level of cuts or have previously said that borrowing such large amounts and spending so much on the public sector was bad. |
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"I heard the last 20 minutes of the budget then the start of Corbyn's negativity
He was terrible. Sad to hear. Rishi Sunak was like a breath of fresh air!
Where did he get all that money from???
IR35!
Magic money tree? What is the current deficit ? " he stole the money tree from Corbyns money forest lol |
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"Excellent Budget
time for a second home
and great news for us filling up at the forecourts with fuel as well as for us who enjoy a drink or two
as for the tree huggers and greenies - ohhh dear
Greta ain’t going to be happy. "
She never looks happy anyways
Always looks like she won a lemon sucking competition |
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"The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
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It was a very good and much needed budget. I applaud the new chancellor, I would like to know where he got all this money from though? |
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"The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
It was a very good and much needed budget. I applaud the new chancellor, I would like to know where he got all this money from though? "
Ask him? |
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"The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
It was a very good and much needed budget. I applaud the new chancellor, I would like to know where he got all this money from though?
Ask him?"
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"The seethe is real.
Truth is if this was a “Labour” budget people would be falling over themselves to say how great it is.
Sadly it’s not a labour budget though is it
It was an unprecedented budget that had to deal with the Corona virus and its impact on health and the economy and he did a great job. Let’s face it at short notice in financial planning terms.
Four more years at least of unprecedented Fab seethe levels.
It was a very good and much needed budget. I applaud the new chancellor, I would like to know where he got all this money from though?
Ask him?"
No need, I now know the answer? I am guessing you know as well |
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