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the COVID 19 thread (lets keep it to this one)

By *abio OP Man over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

thought if we were going to talk about it, it would be sensible to just keep it to the one thread on here....

anyway ... moving on from the last thread, we know this morning that the governments worse case scenario is for 100,000 deaths......

when you put it like that... yes we should all keep calm, and it still hits home....

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"thought if we were going to talk about it, it would be sensible to just keep it to the one thread on here....

anyway ... moving on from the last thread, we know this morning that the governments worse case scenario is for 100,000 deaths......

when you put it like that... yes we should all keep calm, and it still hits home...."
Worse case scenario says it all i would be worried if the government were not looking at worse case scenarios.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are reports saying that the covid-19 corona virus was created in a wuhan laboratory, it wouldnt surprise me if it was man made.

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By *nicecoupleXCouple over a year ago

Hitch

This was a bio weapon, probably made to tank the US economy by the globalists. Also it has to be noted that the hundreds of thousands that were in the streets protesting the communist government are no longer protesting. Convenience.

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

One thing wrong with the ‘man-made’ theory is the virus’ lack of exclusivity. Why release a novel virus with no means to control its spread and effect?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think I’ll pay attention to advice from experts, mainly because they’re experts and the hysteria on various forums is rife.

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

"I think I’ll pay attention to advice from experts, mainly because they’re experts and the hysteria on various forums is rife."

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Conspiracy theories are fine, if you like that sort of thing, when backed with evidence.

This is the time for preparations, as other attention elsewhere is wasted focus.

It's right for all governments to be basing their strategies on expert evidence. Hearsay, numskull, misdirection and smoke and mirrors aren't the best that we can do.

I'm wary of governments sneeking in action, law changes etc, that inappropriately reduce rights and liberty of the public, that aren't limited just to the period of an urgent infection issue.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think I’ll pay attention to advice from experts, mainly because they’re experts and the hysteria on various forums is rife."

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full life"
How nasty and sick can you get you will be old one day,is this how you want your parents to die?

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full lifeHow nasty and sick can you get you will be old one day,is this how you want your parents to die?"

While I agree with you and I'm certainly not ready to go I am relieved that it doesn't affect kids as much as the older generation, I would rather die than my grandkids,, they have their whole life in front of them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Three deaths in the UK now.

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full lifeHow nasty and sick can you get you will be old one day,is this how you want your parents to die?"

Ffs.... it’s called irony, sarcasm, humour, tongue in cheek. Oh never mind -you wouldn’t understand

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full lifeHow nasty and sick can you get you will be old one day,is this how you want your parents to die?

Ffs.... it’s called irony, sarcasm, humour, tongue in cheek. Oh never mind -you wouldn’t understand "
It is in very poor taste

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"thought if we were going to talk about it, it would be sensible to just keep it to the one thread on here....

anyway ... moving on from the last thread, we know this morning that the governments worse case scenario is for 100,000 deaths......

when you put it like that... yes we should all keep calm, and it still hits home...."

Can you link me to the 100,000 deaths estimate?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full lifeHow nasty and sick can you get you will be old one day,is this how you want your parents to die?

Ffs.... it’s called irony, sarcasm, humour, tongue in cheek. Oh never mind -you wouldn’t understand It is in very poor taste"

So's marmite, but some people still like it.

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"One thing wrong with the ‘man-made’ theory is the virus’ lack of exclusivity. Why release a novel virus with no means to control its spread and effect?"

There's always the possibility of an lab accident.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One thing wrong with the ‘man-made’ theory is the virus’ lack of exclusivity. Why release a novel virus with no means to control its spread and effect?"
I think cos something went wrong in the lab or they underestimated its side effects as it cant be stopped, there are roumors that bill gates could be involved as well.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"thought if we were going to talk about it, it would be sensible to just keep it to the one thread on here....

anyway ... moving on from the last thread, we know this morning that the governments worse case scenario is for 100,000 deaths......

when you put it like that... yes we should all keep calm, and it still hits home...."

If this is the governments worst case scenario, it is an order of magnitude underestimate for deaths.

Detected cases are rising exponentially. The only successes is slowing the spread have been countries that have essentially stopped all public events and put whole cities into quarantine. Government action in the uk is too little, too late.

Worst case would be 80 to 90% of the population becoming infected. Global death rates are currently running at 3.4% of those contracting the disease. Uk population is approx 68 million, 80% infection is 54 million, 3.4% of this is 1.8 million people.

In 2018 there were just over 600,000 deaths registered in the uk. So corona could be responsible for something like 3 years worth of deaths - but these will not be spread out over even one year, they are most likely to occur all bunched up within a single month.

I hope that i am wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My risk of infection is about to increase this weekend

Country 2 Country (C2C) 3 day concert is on Friday, Saturday, Sunday

London O2 x3

Glasgow Hydro x3

Dublin Arena x3

I will be there all 3 nights, and looking forward

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"thought if we were going to talk about it, it would be sensible to just keep it to the one thread on here....

anyway ... moving on from the last thread, we know this morning that the governments worse case scenario is for 100,000 deaths......

when you put it like that... yes we should all keep calm, and it still hits home....

If this is the governments worst case scenario, it is an order of magnitude underestimate for deaths.

I hope that i am wrong."

In whichever scenario you pick one other thing will happen. The death rate by non Covid 19 causes will drop.

For example: someone with terminal cancer who has say 3 months to live picks up the virus and they die from it. Covid 19 deaths increase by one, 3 months later cancer deaths reduce by one.

Seeing as this virus affects the elderly much more than the young then the overall death rate almost certainly won't increase by the number of Covid 19 deaths.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Again I ask where you get the 80% infection rate. Considering the epicentre of this has approximately 81000 cases in a population of approximately 59 million.

Now I don’t consider myself a mathematician but that’s nowhere near 80%.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

I don’t think the a Government is doing enough to contain the spread of the virus.

It seems that when a case is identified connected to a school or a GP surgery - they close the building down to be cleaned.

Why not proactively makes sure that these places are proactively cleaned instead of reactively? Shopping trolley handles and public transport have to be prime candidates for proactive and regular cleaning surely? I heard that shopping trolleys are never cleaned - ever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t think the a Government is doing enough to contain the spread of the virus.

It seems that when a case is identified connected to a school or a GP surgery - they close the building down to be cleaned.

Why can’t you clean it before you touch it, protect yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t think the a Government is doing enough to contain the spread of the virus.

It seems that when a case is identified connected to a school or a GP surgery - they close the building down to be cleaned.

good point

I actually have the shits right now, maybe caught from one of those trolleys yesterday

so glad I bought all those loo rolls

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Cost Co were cleaning their trolleys. Upon entry to the store.

Which was kind of weird because they were not cleaned until customers had removed them from the rack and pushed them into the store.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"I don’t think the a Government is doing enough to contain the spread of the virus.

It seems that when a case is identified connected to a school or a GP surgery - they close the building down to be cleaned.

Why can’t you clean it before you touch it, protect yourself."

What with? Remember we are talking an anti-viral cleanse...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What a waste of time cleaning trolly handles, how many people pick up items put them back so the next person picks up said item and back to square one

All you have to do is not touch you’re face eyes mouth nose ect and unless you have a cut on your hands you way them before you eat anything.

Something you should be doing anyway in normal day to day life.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"Again I ask where you get the 80% infection rate. Considering the epicentre of this has approximately 81000 cases in a population of approximately 59 million.

Now I don’t consider myself a mathematician but that’s nowhere near 80%."

China is doing very well at slowing the progress through their country because they have a very authorative government, and population that by and large obey their government decrees. China has stopped all public gatherings in the infected areas and applied strict quarantine of cities. I suspect that they have also stopped counting cases in the worst affected areas. They also have the advantage of being a very large country, major cities are a long way apart, and there are big areas where the people are relatively poor and there is not huge amounts of travel.

The very fact that the number of cases in the infected areas are doubling every two days means that this virus is incredibly contagious. It is the WHO that are reckoning that about 80% of people exposed to it are catching it. Which means that once it gets loose in the general population, there can be no stopping it. Count how many people you interact with on a daily basis, how often you touch some object that somebody else might have touched during the previous few hours. And how many people those people interact with. Etc. And remember, this virus is exceptional in that carriers can become infectious before they themselves show any symptoms.

If EVERYBODY self isolated for a few weeks, it would slow down the spread. But this is impossible in our modern society.

I don't have any solutions. I hope that I'm talking a load of crap. Keep safe out there.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

"Yeah but will be mainly elderly people who have had a full life"

Most of them will have voted for Brexit and or be Tories.

It’s called irony, sarcasm, humour, tongue in cheek. I know you'll understand.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

What government actions to minimise the number of people infected and dead, would you impose?

What restrictions are you willing to take on board?

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By *V-AliceTV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

"I don’t think the a Government is doing enough to contain the spread of the virus.

It seems that when a case is identified connected to a school or a GP surgery - they close the building down to be cleaned.

The Government in this country can't really do shit. They'll tell you they can - but they can't.

Why? There's too many of us and not enough police/forces personnel to make sure we're doing as we've been told.

Factor in the usual level of selfishness and stupidity inherent in the general public - and the scale of the problem - in a democracy where people are used to doing exactly as they like, travelling wherever they want ... this can't be contained.

It'll run its course, plenty of us will get infected and some will die. That's unfortunate but it's not uncommon. It never has been.

Covid 19 will just become another thing humanity has to get used to. The common cold and usual influenza haven't been eradicated; nor will this virus.

Eventually, when the economy has been fucked over enough - which is good for the planet - people will start to live with it, accept it and go back to work. They'll have to; those bills aren't going to pay themselves.

In a capitalist system like ours - which does provide all manner of comforts, conveniences and luxuries - human life is worth less than money; which is why it will always be risked in the pursuit of wealth.

Most people scared shitless of the virus just now will, given time, resume their normal pattern of behaviour. They'll risk it - because being trapped in your own home, washing your hands, running out of money and praying ASDA can deliver your shopping, is no life at all.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

I assumed that the talk on social media about panic buying was a bit of a joke. Then, this afternoon - I went to Asda.

What a joke. Empty shelves where the loo rolls are normally, empty shelves where pasta is kept. Multi-packs of beans, soups and the like / completely sold out.

There was a woman with two trolleys literally piled high with tinned food. I asked her if she was going away in her caravan lol

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By *paindyCouple over a year ago

Bath

Whatever it is... likelihood most people going it get it. If one gets it tested and no matter how small the symptoms are.. they will be included in the data, hence the number rises.

We might have a slowdown in summer and most likely peak again over winter. The vaccine is not going to be ready for public use at least spring next year by the look of it.

I think it is a question of managing it and being sensible. No cause to be panic if you do not have any serious underlying health conditions.

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By *andS66Couple over a year ago

Derby

"thought if we were going to talk about it, it would be sensible to just keep it to the one thread on here....

anyway ... moving on from the last thread, we know this morning that the governments worse case scenario is for 100,000 deaths......

when you put it like that... yes we should all keep calm, and it still hits home...."

Well, on 25th Feb their reasonable worst case scenario was 500,000 deaths, so they must be doing something right......

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"One thing wrong with the ‘man-made’ theory is the virus’ lack of exclusivity. Why release a novel virus with no means to control its spread and effect?I think cos something went wrong in the lab or they underestimated its side effects as it cant be stopped, there are roumors that bill gates could be involved as well."

Is this a wind up or do you genuinely think like this

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"I assumed that the talk on social media about panic buying was a bit of a joke. Then, this afternoon - I went to Asda.

What a joke. Empty shelves where the loo rolls are normally, empty shelves where pasta is kept. Multi-packs of beans, soups and the like / completely sold out.

There was a woman with two trolleys literally piled high with tinned food. I asked her if she was going away in her caravan lol"
pmsl what did she say ? Loo roll and beans there’s a combo she will block her drains lol

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Is this a wind up or do you genuinely think like this "

is this your first time in the politics forum? if yes you will hear alsorts of crazy stuff lol

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Is this a wind up or do you genuinely think like this

is this your first time in the politics forum? if yes you will hear alsorts of crazy stuff lol"
Yeah my sisters boyfriends mothers brother was talking to someone down the pub who knew a extinction rebellion supporter who said they invented it to stop travel and save the world.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

The whole of Italy now on lock down. The PM telling people to just stop at home.

How this will affect their economy remains to be seen.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

Amazing they haven't closed the borders yet. Try and deal with what's already here, rather than letting new cases in. Re repatriate nationals into quarantine.

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By *teveuk77Man over a year ago

Is this a wind up or do you genuinely think like this

is this your first time in the politics forum? if yes you will hear alsorts of crazy stuff lolYeah my sisters boyfriends mothers brother was talking to someone down the pub who knew a extinction rebellion supporter who said they invented it to stop travel and save the world.

That'll be the same guy who told the pub that Brexit was a good idea. He spoke about getting rid of job stealing foreigners, controlling our borders, keeping our fish, unicorns and paradise. Scary thing is, the idiots in the pub believed him!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I assumed that the talk on social media about panic buying was a bit of a joke. Then, this afternoon - I went to Asda.

What a joke. Empty shelves where the loo rolls are normally, empty shelves where pasta is kept. Multi-packs of beans, soups and the like / completely sold out.

There was a woman with two trolleys literally piled high with tinned food. I asked her if she was going away in her caravan lol

pmsl what did she say ? Loo roll and beans there’s a combo she will block her drains lol"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone going to Country 2 Country (C2C) this weekend, I am going all 3 nights Glasgow (fingers crossed) as long as they dont step in and stop it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The thing I find interesting is that the

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The thing I find interesting is that The EU (and the UN for that matter) seem to have gone quiet on this. Instead of taking a lead they have just left it to individual countries to do their own thing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just been to the supermarket. Not only are they out of all toilet paper, tissues, and kitchen roll, eggs, powdered milk, paracetamol, pasta and rice, the shelves have now been stripped of all flour. Good to see so many folks took note of what to do when they made us watch “When the Wind Blow” at school.

Where can I buy paper sacks?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Christ, wish I'd bought those Kimberley-Clark shares now.......... Curses...!!

Eva

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

Brecon

Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

What I am really struggling with is the attitude that coz it's old people and it's not going to effect me it's just mass hysteria!!!

What if it was just kid's or people born on a Tuesday,or ginger people or black people Christ the list is endless.

But seemingly because it's elderly and vulnerable people it's ok to not give a fuck.

What is up with society when we are willing to just throw people away just because it's a minor inconvenience to your very important lives?

What if you where 60 plus how would you feel if all you hear was , well it's only a cold like virus?

Yet there's a very real possibility that it's fatal to them?

So what if you have to wash your hands more regularly and use gel.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

You're only hearing that attitude because people think only those who use social media, matter.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Bloody hell, some of the nonsense I read on here is ridiculous. Natural selection really should have picked some people off by now.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well my mum's, aunty's, dad's mate John said that is was developed in a lab by a faction of the remainers and extinction rebellion and apparently it only targets Brexit voters.

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

Brecon

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy. "

Oh, that's alright then, so the virus has different fatality rates for us does it?

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

"Bloody hell, some of the nonsense I read on here is ridiculous. Natural selection really should have picked some people off by now.

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy.

Oh, that's alright then, so the virus has different fatality rates for us does it?

the health service in italy isnt as joined up as here.the nhs is under a national umbrella the health service in italy is run by each province so some may be coping better than others.think there at least 10 or 12 different areas in italy and all run by different arms of goverment

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy.

Oh, that's alright then, so the virus has different fatality rates for us does it?

You do realise the fatality rate does vary from area to area, country to country etc? It's dependant on many things, average age and health status of the population, the healthcare available, the quality of the healthcare available, the population density. It isn't just a flat rate for every country

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy.

Oh, that's alright then, so the virus has different fatality rates for us does it?

Except it seemingly mainly kills old/er people. Children are not/rarely affected and adults may be asymptomatic. Strange, for a novel virus strain. Remind me, how old is Mr Trump?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy.

Oh, that's alright then, so the virus has different fatality rates for us does it?

Italy has a lot more older people in the community

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Based on Italy's latest statistics, the fatality rate is at about 6.25%. worst case scenario for the UK was put at 80% infected, I make that a possible death toll of around 3.3 million.

We aren't Italy.

Oh, that's alright then, so the virus has different fatality rates for us does it?

Except it seemingly mainly kills old/er people. Children are not/rarely affected and adults may be asymptomatic. Strange, for a novel virus strain. Remind me, how old is Mr Trump?"

Why is it strange? There is a huge variety in how different viruses affect different demographics, why should this one be any different?

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

Brecon

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish"

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

"There are 2 types of people in the world, the first evacuates the area when the authorities say a storm is coming, or has made plans and is safe, warm, fed and sheltered. The second decides to stay put, makes no plans, and thinks "It's ok, it aint gonna be that bad"...these are the ones who die, or get rescued off the roofs of their houses in the flood, or wander round hungry and thirsty when their house gets blown away...and moan because people aren't there, putting their lives at risk, to give them food and water".

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish"

And all it took was a draconian 2 month shut down of the entire region. You do realise that 80000 figure would likely be in the millions otherwise I assume

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures. "

I'm sure someone as smart as you believe yourself to be understands the concept of exponential growth, which means if you're concerning yourself about the current situation, you're already about 2 or 3 weeks behind. This time next week case's will be over 1000 almost certainly, and then if there's no significant intervention cases will be in the 10s of thousands within a month, along with the crippling impacts mass hospitalizations will have on an already creaking health service

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

I'm completely aware it will spread but what exactly are you expecting me to do about it? I can't stop it, I can't prevent the strain on the nhs so spreading 'worse case scenarios' and other stories doesn't change anything. I'm doing what I can do to protect the people around me, that's all anyone can do.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters.

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

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"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures. "

"Plan for the worst, hope for the best"

Mart keeps drumming this into me about everything, and, as much as I hate to admit it, he's right.

So, you buy a few extra items in your shopping... "just in case."

You talk to family about "what if...", and make plans..."just in case".

Is that really so bad?

You insure your house, car, pets, even your health or life, why?..."just in case".

This is a quote from someone about their experience in Italy under the lockdown....

"At the beginning of this, we didn’t take it seriously. Then we complained that the media was overdoing it and creating hysteria (and they were, in many ways). Then we vowed to not be affected by it, that the economy needed to come first and we needed to keep living our normal lives. I was doing all of the above until this past weekend. That’s when it became clear that this thing spreads super easily, and kills more than we thought. 460 people dead in a few days. And no, it’s not only old people. There’s some people in their 40s and 50s too. But most importantly, since when a grandparent is worth less than us? That narrative is horrible and needs to stop.

The big problem is that the virus spreads fast, and that means that even if few require hospitalization, if too many catch it, hospitals get overwhelmed. People show up in hospitals unable to breathe and need respirators, which are numbered. Each person requires that respirator for at least 6/8 days, (our patient 1 was on it for 3 weeks), which means that people who come after can’t be treated.

We have one of the best public healthcare systems in the world, and the epicenter of the epidemic is Milan, one of the richest regions in the developed world, with some of the best hospitals in Europe, and yet they are completely overwhelmed. Today they announced that they will need to choose who to treat and who they will let die. It’s like a war.

I’m so sad for Italy. We don’t deserve this. Our economy will be hit hard, but the government has had the courage to take dramatic, if very unpopular steps. Yet I see so much inaction globally, so many European neighbors not doing very much, and the US seems completely unprepared for this. Yet this thing is coming and will be much worse everywhere soon."

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters. "

It's not a smarmy comment when it's true though is it, as you've gone on to confirm in the same sentence.

You unfortunately suffer from the Dunning Kruger effect in this particular instance, basing your actions on the current numbers is wrong, as we're already into the thousands as the next week will bear out.

In terms of what should you do? Be sensible and treat it like the potentially major issue it is. If you fall ill, take all reasonable actions not to spread whatever you have.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters.

It's not a smarmy comment when it's true though is it, as you've gone on to confirm in the same sentence.

In terms of what should you do? Be sensible and treat it like the potentially major issue it is. If you fall ill, take all reasonable actions not to spread whatever you have. "

If you look at many of my other posts on this subject that's exactly what I've been saying. I will not give into pressure and panic caused by the media. The selfish twats panic buying are causing more issues for vulnerable people than corona is. That's what panic and believing everything you read in the media does.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters.

It's not a smarmy comment when it's true though is it, as you've gone on to confirm in the same sentence.

In terms of what should you do? Be sensible and treat it like the potentially major issue it is. If you fall ill, take all reasonable actions not to spread whatever you have.

Well we certainly agree on that, as serious as this is, it's not going to be the end of days and there's no real reason that basic supplies will completely dry up, but there are indeed twats out there currently sandwiched between a mountain of bog roll and pasta

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters.

It's not a smarmy comment when it's true though is it, as you've gone on to confirm in the same sentence.

In terms of what should you do? Be sensible and treat it like the potentially major issue it is. If you fall ill, take all reasonable actions not to spread whatever you have. "

The Dunning Kruger comment, when you're a Doctor in psychology, come back and diagnose me. I'm not the one ignoring current facts and figures published by experts and letting my mind run away with worse case scenarios that are not fact.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters.

It's not a smarmy comment when it's true though is it, as you've gone on to confirm in the same sentence.

In terms of what should you do? Be sensible and treat it like the potentially major issue it is. If you fall ill, take all reasonable actions not to spread whatever you have.

It's not a requirement to be a Dr in a subject to know what it is. Try listening to what the experts are actually saying, the facts and figures represent the situation up to two weeks ago. Diagnosis are doubling every 4-6 days, this disease is exceedingly contagious, hence why the experts are deeply concerned

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Hubei province infected 80000 ish

Hubei province population 59 million ish

Hubei province deaths 3000 ish

3.75% fatality rate...in the UK, based on govts "worst case scenario"... thats still 2,475,000 deaths...why are people not getting it?

This virus is a known killer, but social media idiots are still going on about it being "only flu"..."only flu" doesnt shut down your organs, give you sepsis, and then kill you.

I'm not chicken Licken... giving it the "sky is falling in!", but people need to take this seriously.

A quote from an American rescue worker....

I'm the first guy...which one are you?

I'm the one that isn't basing my life around a worse case scenario, I'm basing it around the current facts and figures.

Oh and your little smarmy comment about how smart I think I am, after reading some of the responses on here, I'm far more informed and acting in a responsible manner than at least 50% of the posters.

It's not a smarmy comment when it's true though is it, as you've gone on to confirm in the same sentence.

In terms of what should you do? Be sensible and treat it like the potentially major issue it is. If you fall ill, take all reasonable actions not to spread whatever you have.

The facts and figures I've been looking at are from the day I'm looking at them. The deputy chief medical officer today stated that while many thousands of people will catch it, a very small percentage will die or need critical care. It's natural to be concerned but not to the point where people are acting irrationally.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Oh also, I only accept diagnoses from doctors.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Oh also, I only accept diagnoses from doctors."

Then I'm sure you'll know that Psychologists aren't medical doctors and therefore unable to provide clinical diagnosis I'm afraid

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

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A doctor at the heart of the coronavirus outbreak in Italy has spoken of the dramatic fight against the disease, saying it is like relentless war and describing how wards are filling up and doctors are working non-stop to save lives.

In a post shared on Facebook, Dr Daniele Macchini likened the disease to a "tsunami that has swept us all".

As Italy battles Europe's worst outbreak, and with the virus spreading fast, doctors are making comparisons to war-time triage medics deciding who lives, who dies and who gets access to the limited number of intensive unit beds.

Dr Macchini spoke candidly of the enormous pressure facing frontline staff in his country - which has reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks.

The message was shared just before the Italian government put the entire country on lockdown. The doctor, from the Humanitas Gavazzeni hospital in Bergamo, northern Italy, works in one of the country's worst affected areas.

"After thinking for a long time if and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that the silence was not at all responsible," Dr Macchini said.

He said he understood "the need not to create panic" but felt "the message of the danger of what is happening" was not reaching people.

The doctor said he "shuddered" at the thought of people complaining about not being able to go to the gym or football games.

Dr Macchini spoke of his hospital preparing and reorganising in anticipation of a widespread outbreak.

"All this rapid transformation brought in the corridors of the hospital an atmosphere of surreal silence and emptiness that we still did not understand, waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many (including me) were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity," he wrote.

The doctor added: "The situation is now nothing short of dramatic. No other words come to mind.

"The war has literally exploded and the battles are uninterrupted day and night," he said.

"Let's stop saying it's a bad flu," he said.

"In these two years I have learned that the people of Bergamo do not come to the emergency room for nothing. They behaved properly this time too. They followed all the indications given: a week or ten days at home with a fever without going out and risking contagion, but now they can't take it anymore."

"They don't breathe enough, they need oxygen."

Dr Macchini's post, which has been shared more than 29,000 times, is among the most dramatic accounts shared by medical personnel in Italy.

Another doctor from Bergamo, anaesthesiologist Christian Salaroli, told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that doctors are now forced to choose who to treat on the basis of the patients' chances of survival.

"We can't attempt miracles. It's the reality," he said.

The Italian society of anaesthesiology and intensive care published 15 ethical recommendations to consider when deciding on ICU admissions during the virus crisis and the ICU shortage. The criteria include the age of the patient and the probability of survival, and not just "first come first served".

In his post, Dr Macchini wrote: "One after the other, the departments that had been emptied are filling up at an impressive rate".

"The display boards with the names of the patients, in different colours depending on the operating unit they belong to, are now all red and instead of the surgical operation there is the diagnosis, which is always the same damned one: bilateral interstitial pneumonia."

He also stressed the virus does not just affect old people, warning that younger people "end up intubated in intensive care" or "worse in ECMO (a machine for the worst cases, which extracts the blood, re-oxygenates it and returns it to the body, waiting for the organism, hopefully, heal your lungs).

He bitterly scorned people "on social networks who pride themselves on not being afraid and ignoring the rules, complaining because their normal lifestyle habits are 'temporarily' in crisis - all the while an epidemiological disaster is taking place".

"And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopaedists - we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has swept us all".

"The cases multiply, we arrive at the rate of 15-20 hospitalisations a day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive.

"Suddenly the emergency room is collapsing"

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

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"...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Oh also, I only accept diagnoses from doctors.

Then I'm sure you'll know that Psychologists aren't medical doctors and therefore unable to provide clinical diagnosis I'm afraid

That's why I said I only accept diagnoses from doctors, not a random guy on the fab forums.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

"Oh also, I only accept diagnoses from doctors.

Then I'm sure you'll know that Psychologists aren't medical doctors and therefore unable to provide clinical diagnosis I'm afraid

That's why I said I only accept diagnoses from doctors, not a random guy on the fab forums."

My god all this flirting is arousing

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Again, we are not in Italy. They have totally different circumstances than we do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And how many more never got reported due to them thinking it was a flu.

This is the Uk. 90% of us don’t go to the doctors, unless we’re dying!

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"And how many more never got reported due to them thinking it was a flu.

This is the Uk. 90% of us don’t go to the doctors, unless we’re dying!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"And how many more never got reported due to them thinking it was a flu.

This is the Uk. 90% of us don’t go to the doctors, unless we’re dying!

Or we want a sick note..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%"

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%..."

That’s a made up number, it’s been agreed no one has clue what the real death toll was. News blackouts world wide and Alfonso made sure no one knew the real numbers from Spain.

The % range was from 2-3% all the way upto 10-12%

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%..."

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then..."

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more "

I think you will find that flu can infect the respiratory system and the majority of those who died back then it will have been due to it turning to pneumonia. Having had pneumonia twice in my life....the most recent only a month ago..I have no doubt that without antibiotics I would be dead now!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's coming folks, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

You can go into denial, castigate those who give realistic figures of infection, or claim that the UK isn't like 'other counties', but it won't make a blind bit of difference, because it's coming soon to a person near you.

Most of you will recover, about 97% probably, but many of us won't, and we include your parents or siblings. From my age and medical history, I'm unlikely to see the summer. Hope it's a nice one for you all.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"It's coming folks, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

We know it's coming, we know it will infect a high number of people and we also know that, unfortunately, people will die. But other than follow the guidance set out for us by experts, there's not a damn thing we can do about it. What's the point spending your time stressing over something you cannot control? All you can do is take rational steps to keep yourself and everyone around you as safe as you can.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Well my mum's, aunty's, dad's mate John said that is was developed in a lab by a faction of the remainers and extinction rebellion and apparently it only targets Brexit voters. "

Every grey cloud has a silver lining.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's coming folks, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people who are failing to grasp the severity of the situation, many of them on these forums apparently, and they are the ones that I'm addressing.

I'm pleased that you seem to be acknowledging that it's going to get far worse before it begins to get better.

Oh and I'm not stressing, and I am taking steps, but that may well be in vain if idiots don't start taking this threat seriously.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"It's coming folks, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people who are failing to grasp the severity of the situation, many of them on these forums apparently, and they are the ones that I'm addressing.

I'm pleased that you seem to be acknowledging that it's going to get far worse before it begins to get better.

Oh and I'm not stressing, and I am taking steps, but that may well be in vain if idiots don't start taking this threat seriously."

I don't think people aren't taking it seriously, they just aren't panicking. The amount of false doom and gloom 'facts' people have spouted on the forums are making things far worse and causing alot of the irrational panic.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia "

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics."

It can indeed. Still the general point is that this disease can't be treated in any meaningful way through anti biotics

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics.

It can indeed. Still the general point is that this disease can't be treated in any meaningful way through anti biotics"

We knew that anyway. However, it's often the combination of corona and other health issues that are fatal, not the virus on its own.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's coming folks, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people who are failing to grasp the severity of the situation, many of them on these forums apparently, and they are the ones that I'm addressing.

I'm pleased that you seem to be acknowledging that it's going to get far worse before it begins to get better.

Oh and I'm not stressing, and I am taking steps, but that may well be in vain if idiots don't start taking this threat seriously.

I don't think posting things like " more people are dying on the roads" is taking it seriously really, and there are quite a few people who are being as irresponsible as this on here. If you extend this little bubble to the world at large, then that's an awful lot of people who won't believe it until they've caught it themselves.

Nor do I think that any of the facts and figures I've posted on the forums are 'false'. If anything they are conservative, and that goes for a lot of other posters too. Still, you believe whatever suits you.

Anyway, can't stand here chatting all day, I have to go and wash my hands again.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"It's coming folks, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people who are failing to grasp the severity of the situation, many of them on these forums apparently, and they are the ones that I'm addressing.

I'm pleased that you seem to be acknowledging that it's going to get far worse before it begins to get better.

Oh and I'm not stressing, and I am taking steps, but that may well be in vain if idiots don't start taking this threat seriously.

Anyway, can't stand here chatting all day, I have to go and wash my hands again.

I wasn't talking about you posting false 'facts', I was just saying in general there are alot of inaccurate statements being throw around.

I don't think stating facts about other causes of death isn't taking it seriously at all, I think people are trying to show some perspective. Yes, coronavirus can cause death, yes, it is causing stress and worry, yes, it is affecting the economy, but all we can do is follow the advice we are given. That is what I'm trying to encourage people to do, not to panic and believe everything that they see online, but to follow the guidelines published by the people who know what they are talking about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics.

It can indeed. Still the general point is that this disease can't be treated in any meaningful way through anti biotics"

Mate you are spouting a load of shite.

I was referring to the amount of deaths to the Spanish flu not this virus, and how the lack of antibiotics will have impacted on the death toll then!

As for the viral and Bacterial pneumonia...I was in icy for a week with both back in 2008, so I know what I'm talking about. And it's already has been said one leads to another.

Maybe you need to read up on the posts your replying to eh!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ICU not icy ffs

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By *ovegames42Man over a year ago

london

"There are reports saying that the covid-19 corona virus was created in a wuhan laboratory, it wouldnt surprise me if it was man made."

This.

reminds me of “ planet of the apes “ movie.

Experimenting under pressure to produce a miracle drug, look how that ended.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics.

It can indeed. Still the general point is that this disease can't be treated in any meaningful way through anti biotics

Mate you are spouting a load of shite.

I was referring to the amount of deaths to the Spanish flu not this virus, and how the lack of antibiotics will have impacted on the death toll then!

As for the viral and Bacterial pneumonia...I was in icy for a week with both back in 2008, so I know what I'm talking about. And it's already has been said one leads to another.

Maybe you need to read up on the posts your replying to eh!"

You realise the Spanish flu was a virus right? Antibiotics wouldn't have helped in anyway other than helping secondary bacterial infections, basically it would have been minimal.

I'd expect someone who'd had both forms of pneumonia to know that ABs aren't really a suitable treatment for viral infections

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics.

It can indeed. Still the general point is that this disease can't be treated in any meaningful way through anti biotics

Mate you are spouting a load of shite.

I was referring to the amount of deaths to the Spanish flu not this virus, and how the lack of antibiotics will have impacted on the death toll then!

As for the viral and Bacterial pneumonia...I was in icy for a week with both back in 2008, so I know what I'm talking about. And it's already has been said one leads to another.

Maybe you need to read up on the posts your replying to eh!

You realise the Spanish flu was a virus right? Antibiotics wouldn't have helped in anyway other than helping secondary bacterial infections, basically it would have been minimal.

I'd expect someone who'd had both forms of pneumonia to know that ABs aren't really a suitable treatment for viral infections"

Your not getting it are you...so I'll waste no more time with you...

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

Emergency legislation to be brought in next week.

Maybe to ban sporting events etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Mate you are spouting a load of shite.

I was referring to the amount of deaths to the Spanish flu not this virus, and how the lack of antibiotics will have impacted on the death toll then!

As for the viral and Bacterial pneumonia...I was in icy for a week with both back in 2008, so I know what I'm talking about. And it's already has been said one leads to another.

Maybe you need to read up on the posts your replying to eh!"

You are spot on that Viral pneumonia can lead onto bacterial and the reason is due to the amount of bacterium humans carry in their nose, mouth and throats and this easily spreads when immune system lowered

so many on here think antibiotics are of no use,

that is good for us who are prescribed and take them, and bad for them who continue to think they are on no use

I am taking a 3 monthly dose of daily anti biotics right now, and if any sign of any type of chest infection I will be straight onto high strength anti biotics which I keep on stand by

I have no spleen which means I have the possibility of a lower immune system and anti biotics are advised by all doctors in UK as well as surgeons

for those on here that spout, anti biotics do no good on here, thats good, you believe that

as for me, I will take advice from doctors and surgeons

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By *abio OP Man over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Emergency legislation to be brought in next week.

Maybe to ban sporting events etc. "

i don't they will go as far as banning sporting events... but they may limit "public gatherings" to the point where they either play everything "behind closed doors" or just cancel for the sake of it...

its beginning to happen in the states where it will be a state by state decision... but there will be NBA and NHL games behind closed doors as of tonight... also the huge annual national college basketball tourney starts next week and already 2 of the 8 first and second round site are going to play games behind closed doors...

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Teachers at a private school are drawing up plans to not return to School after the Easter Break and teach from home through to Summer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Country 2 Country still playing London/Glasgow/Dublin this weekend

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Emergency legislation to be brought in next week.

Maybe to ban sporting events etc. "

Cancel the Premier League this season, just to piss of the scoucers

Even better, settle the league table alphabetically

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Emergency legislation to be brought in next week.

Maybe to ban sporting events etc.

Cancel the Premier League this season, just to piss of the scoucers

Even better, settle the league table alphabetically

Scousers

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By *abio OP Man over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Teachers at a private school are drawing up plans to not return to School after the Easter Break and teach from home through to Summer.

my old university in the states, michigan state, and a load of other unis are going to "online classes only" as of monday....

and on cue the entire ncaa mens and womens college basketball tournaments are going to be played behind closed doors.... and the mens/womens college ice hockey tournaments as well...

for the states this is huge!

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

"Teachers at a private school are drawing up plans to not return to School after the Easter Break and teach from home through to Summer.

my old university in the states, michigan state, and a load of other unis are going to "online classes only" as of monday....

and on cue the entire ncaa mens and womens college basketball tournaments are going to be played behind closed doors.... and the mens/womens college ice hockey tournaments as well...

for the states this is huge!

Sensible precautions in my opinion.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

Whatever the measures, it will be proportional and evidence led. We will just have to accept it, and hopefully better times will not be too far away.

I saw that Angela Merkel was warning Germany, that upto 70% may be affected. That would have drastic consequences for their already stagnant economy.

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By *outhlondon_guyMan over a year ago

London

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumonia. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

Viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics.

It can indeed. Still the general point is that this disease can't be treated in any meaningful way through anti biotics

Mate you are spouting a load of shite.

I was referring to the amount of deaths to the Spanish flu not this virus, and how the lack of antibiotics will have impacted on the death toll then!

As for the viral and Bacterial pneumonia...I was in icy for a week with both back in 2008, so I know what I'm talking about. And it's already has been said one leads to another.

Maybe you need to read up on the posts your replying to eh!

You realise the Spanish flu was a virus right? Antibiotics wouldn't have helped in anyway other than helping secondary bacterial infections, basically it would have been minimal.

I'd expect someone who'd had both forms of pneumonia to know that ABs aren't really a suitable treatment for viral infections

Your not getting it are you...so I'll waste no more time with you..."

I get that you're assertion that Spanish flu mortality rate could have been assisted by antibiotics is bollocks. If it was that straightforward we wouldn't be in as much of a pickle now (barring super bacteria of course)

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumoniae. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia "

You're correct except that often what kills the person off is not the original viral infection but a secondary, opportunist bacterial infection.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Teachers at a private school are drawing up plans to not return to School after the Easter Break and teach from home through to Summer.

my old university in the states, michigan state, and a load of other unis are going to "online classes only" as of monday....

and on cue the entire ncaa mens and womens college basketball tournaments are going to be played behind closed doors.... and the mens/womens college ice hockey tournaments as well...

for the states this is huge!

Sensible precautions in my opinion. "

Not if the events are still being televised. People getting together in a confined space to watch these events on TV could be just as much of a spread risk as people gathering to watch the event live.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

""...reported a total of 463 virus-related deaths and more than 9,000 confirmed cases in just over two weeks."

A 5.14% mortality rate...normal flu is around 1%.

Normal flu is around 0.1%

Spanish flu was 2-3%...

Maybe that was more down to the fact that antibiotics were not around then...

Given that antibiotics have don't work against viral infections, I suggest you read up a bit more

You had bacterial pneumoniae. I'll say it again, antibiotics won't help viral pneumonia

You're correct except that often what kills the person off is not the original viral infection but a secondary, opportunist bacterial infection.

This

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By *adyinred696969Couple over a year ago

Brecon

So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

No point discussing it, there are no "experts" and the way statistics are utter shite as there is insufficient data

It's likely that once the virus spreads to give enough data that deaths will be similar numbers to seasonal flu

We will have a vaccine by next year and people will start to build up immunity

Good thing is that all the precautions people are taking will reduce infection of seasonal flu and even the common cold.

PS I think the Russians did it lol

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

Demographic isn't representative of global population

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By *abio OP Man over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Whatever the measures, it will be proportional and evidence led. We will just have to accept it, and hopefully better times will not be too far away.

I saw that Angela Merkel was warning Germany, that upto 70% may be affected. That would have drastic consequences for their already stagnant economy. "

She said 70-80% of people will get it eventually.... not at the same time!

Our chief medical officer has said the same thing... for most that will be a mild flu at best, the hope is the hospitalisation rate drops so hopefully the nhs can cope....

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

That's not accurate for the entire world though. Do you understand how global statistics work? They are for the whole world, not just Italy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead? "

Not only that but every death where someone has tested positive for corona is being counted as a death caused by corona, often they were being treated for other illnesses before that and they may have died from something else.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications. "

Someone shoulld tell him it'ss too late it's already there.

Oh wait they probably have

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People from EU countries should be prevented from entering UK too

Including Brits who are out with UK and in EU countries right now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead? "

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange. "

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Everyone can get it, but for some strange reason kids do not seem to have any symptoms and do not get I'll. But they still carry and spread it. It's a bugger of a bug...

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Show me the report

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Everyone can get it, but for some strange reason kids do not seem to have any symptoms and do not get I'll. But they still carry and spread it. It's a bugger of a bug..."

Same with seasonal flu, their immune system suppresses the symptoms or the symptoms are much reduced or shortened

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Show me the report"

I think you will find that italy is very family orientated, whereby the young visit there great grandparents regularly. But with the youngest not showing symptoms of this...it just went bang and hence the massive spread in Italy.

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

The real question is how many tens of thousands or more got it, recovered and didn't get tested.

Yes it's serious, yes take precautions but the same should be the case ALL THE TIME

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

That poor actor from Gomorrah (great series by the way) having to be in lock down with his dead sister.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The real question is how many tens of thousands or more got it, recovered and didn't get tested.

Yes it's serious, yes take precautions but the same should be the case ALL THE TIME

Hey I had pneumonia last month and back then....yes just 4 weeks ago they were not testing for it unless you had recent contact with people from or had been to china. I kinda hope I had it and got over it...but I dont know..

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications. "

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications."

Not really, just screen passports, your coming in from a EU country, fuck off, go back

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications."
Just watching something about this on tv now apparently all that stopping people entering a country does is push the peak of infection further down the road self protection still seems the best way.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications.

Not really, just screen passports, your coming in from a EU country, fuck off, go back

It would have immense implications especially with the Easter holidays on the horizon.

Nothing in also (by default) means nothing out.

So that would be the end of stag and hen do's in Benidorm. Swinger holidays in Gran Canary, and pretty much every family holiday to any country in the Schengen area.

Jeez! If it carried on it could even fuck Cap d'Agde in the summer.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications.

Not really, just screen passports, your coming in from a EU country, fuck off, go back

It would have immense implications especially with the Easter holidays on the horizon.

Nothing in also (by default) means nothing out.

So that would be the end of stag and hen do's in Benidorm. Swinger holidays in Gran Canary, and pretty much every family holiday to any country in the Schengen area.

Jeez! If it carried on it could even fuck Cap d'Agde in the summer.

"
I was just reading that it looks like semana santa parades will be cancelled in spain this easter.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications.

Not really, just screen passports, your coming in from a EU country, fuck off, go back

It would have immense implications especially with the Easter holidays on the horizon.

Nothing in also (by default) means nothing out.

So that would be the end of stag and hen do's in Benidorm. Swinger holidays in Gran Canary, and pretty much every family holiday to any country in the Schengen area.

Jeez! If it carried on it could even fuck Cap d'Agde in the summer.

I was just reading that it looks like semana santa parades will be cancelled in spain this easter.

Yes I've read the same.

We are in Spain now and not due to fly back until a week on Monday.

Anything could happen between now and then.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications.

Not really, just screen passports, your coming in from a EU country, fuck off, go back

It would have immense implications especially with the Easter holidays on the horizon.

Nothing in also (by default) means nothing out.

So that would be the end of stag and hen do's in Benidorm. Swinger holidays in Gran Canary, and pretty much every family holiday to any country in the Schengen area.

Jeez! If it carried on it could even fuck Cap d'Agde in the summer.

thats just what they all deserve for traveling east

go west, fly usa

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"No travel from EU Schengen area to the USA for 30 days.

That's going to have some implications.

Apparently pressure is being put on Boris to do the same.

Now that would REALLy have implications.

Not really, just screen passports, your coming in from a EU country, fuck off, go back

It would have immense implications especially with the Easter holidays on the horizon.

Nothing in also (by default) means nothing out.

So that would be the end of stag and hen do's in Benidorm. Swinger holidays in Gran Canary, and pretty much every family holiday to any country in the Schengen area.

Jeez! If it carried on it could even fuck Cap d'Agde in the summer.

I was just reading that it looks like semana santa parades will be cancelled in spain this easter.

Yes I've read the same.

We are in Spain now and not due to fly back until a week on Monday.

Anything could happen between now and then.

"
I was coming back for a week or two next week but put it on hold now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/

Very, very few younger people are getting it. That’s the best data pack anywhere you can find!

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

Just watched some dirty cunt poking through the bread rolls in lidl with his hands looking for the biggest one

I called him out naturally and he wandered round lidl muttering to himself in what sounded like Eastern European language probably cursing me

Fucking dirty scum

( Not because he's foreign lol)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Emergency legislation to be brought in next week.

Maybe to ban sporting events etc.

Just announced they are suspending major league soccer too.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/

Very, very few younger people are getting it. That’s the best data pack anywhere you can find! "

I've seen it, but to say it's only targeting older people is false.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Show me the report"

Show me the report where it says it ONLY targets older people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just watched some dirty cunt poking through the bread rolls in lidl with his hands looking for the biggest one

I called him out naturally and he wandered round lidl muttering to himself in what sounded like Eastern European language probably cursing me

Fucking dirty scum

( Not because he's foreign lol)"

Did you wear gloves when you went to Lidl?

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Show me the report

Show me the report where it says it ONLY targets older people. "

Quote

"March 10, 2020 at 10:00 AM EDT

One of the few mercies of the spreading coronavirus is that it leaves young children virtually untouched — a mystery virologists say may hold vital clues as to how the virus works.

In China, only 2.4 percent of reported cases were children and only 0.2 percent of reported cases were children who got critically ill, according to the World Health Organization. China has reported no case of a young child dying of the disease covid-19.

Meanwhile, the new coronavirus has proved especially deadly on the other end of the age spectrum. The fatality rate in China for those over 80 is an estimated 21.9 percent, per the WHO. For ages 10 to 39, however, the fatality rate is roughly 0.2 percent, according to a separate study drawing on patient records of 44,672 confirmed cases. And fatalities and severe symptoms are almost nonexistent at even younger ages. "

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Please show me your references

Of course it's an uncharted course but so far young children are relatively safe

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

"Just watched some dirty cunt poking through the bread rolls in lidl with his hands looking for the biggest one

I called him out naturally and he wandered round lidl muttering to himself in what sounded like Eastern European language probably cursing me

Fucking dirty scum

( Not because he's foreign lol)

Did you wear gloves when you went to Lidl?

No but I used alcohol cleaner when I left and I didn't move all the unwrapped bread with my bare hands either.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So, 12000 cases in Italy, and 800 deaths, fatality rate of 6.6%....but its only flu, right?

What was the ages of the dead?

It’s a virus that targets older people, not children or younger adults in general life. Strange.

Younger people are getting it, it doesn't just target older people.

Show me the report

Show me the report where it says it ONLY targets older people.

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"March 10, 2020 at 10:00 AM EDT

One of the few mercies of the spreading coronavirus is that it leaves young children virtually untouched — a mystery virologists say may hold vital clues as to how the virus works.

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Please show me your references

Of course it's an uncharted course but so far young children are relatively safe"

You didn't say that to begin with, you said it only targets older people, children are still getting it, just not as bad.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Just watched some dirty cunt poking through the bread rolls in lidl with his hands looking for the biggest one

I called him out naturally and he wandered round lidl muttering to himself in what sounded like Eastern European language probably cursing me

Fucking dirty scum

( Not because he's foreign lol)

Did you wear gloves when you went to Lidl?

No but I used alcohol cleaner when I left and I didn't move all the unwrapped bread with my bare hands either. "

Maybe this bloke used an alcohol cleaner before he arrived and touched the bread. A far better measure for preventing spread to other people than your solution of using after you've left.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

Boris now giving his speech...

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

Not closing schools at the moment.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

Over 70's should not go on cruise ships

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Over 70's should not go on cruise ships

I've already told my nan to avoid any unnecessary trips etc.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

"Over 70's should not go on cruise ships

I've already told my nan to avoid any unnecessary trips etc. "
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It's a shame but wise advice

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By *eddy and legsCouple over a year ago

the wetlands

"Just watched some dirty cunt poking through the bread rolls in lidl with his hands looking for the biggest one

I called him out naturally and he wandered round lidl muttering to himself in what sounded like Eastern European language probably cursing me

Fucking dirty scum

( Not because he's foreign lol)

Did you wear gloves when you went to Lidl?

No but I used alcohol cleaner when I left and I didn't move all the unwrapped bread with my bare hands either.

Maybe this bloke used an alcohol cleaner before he arrived and touched the bread. A far better measure for preventing spread to other people than your solution of using after you've left.

Aye right ....

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Their very worse case scenario is 80% of our population infected and a mortality rate of 1%, higher in the elderly and lower in younger people.

The majority of people will have very mild symptoms and anyone with symptoms is advised to stay at home for 7 days and only call 111 if you become very concerned about your symptoms. They are saying DO NOT call 111 with mild symptoms.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

"Their very worse case scenario is 80% of our population infected and a mortality rate of 1%, higher in the elderly and lower in younger people.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Perhaps people are actually going to take it seriously now rather than keep spouting the same broken record regards it just being like seasonal flu and it's just a mild cold???

Actual figures between 5-10 thousand infected!!

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Perhaps people are actually going to take it seriously now rather than keep spouting the same broken record regards it just being like seasonal flu and it's just a mild cold???

Actual figures between 5-10 thousand infected!!"

With mild symptoms!

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Perhaps people are actually going to take it seriously now rather than keep spouting the same broken record regards it just being like seasonal flu and it's just a mild cold???

Actual figures between 5-10 thousand infected!!

With mild symptoms! "

All capable of spreading the virus, regardless of how mild the symptoms it's these people who are more likely to spread it, each one of those people with "mild" symptoms has the capacity to infect 3 people in close proximity in the first 5 day's ten thousand turns to 40 thousand and so on.....

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

I suggest you listen to the entire press conference from just mild symptoms don't mean shit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Perhaps people are actually going to take it seriously now rather than keep spouting the same broken record regards it just being like seasonal flu and it's just a mild cold???

Actual figures between 5-10 thousand infected!!

With mild symptoms! "

that can be spread to the ones at risk this is the thing its ok to say im alright mate but its not as you are helping the spread to the ones it will cause misery

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"I suggest you listen to the entire press conference from just mild symptoms don't mean shit"

I watched the entire thing, those with symptoms, even mild ones should self isolate for at least 7 days. This advice comes from experts and professionals.

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