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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself.

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That is right, he is changing a lot, he is also secret remainer.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself.

That is right, he is changing a lot, he is also secret remainer."

He's a leave her. Boris walks out on everything and everyone in the end.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself.

That is right, he is changing a lot, he is also secret remainer.

He's a leave her. Boris walks out on everything and everyone in the end. "

He is a remainer it is well dokumented but he changed his mind as it is on his bucket list to be a pm there.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I don't think he can be relied on let us know his truth. It's for his knowledge only.

We can rely on him not to care 1 bit about us, only himself. His track record is one of lies, pursuing the wrong things, wasting public money and helping himself as well as comfortably helping other very rich people.

The few months he has forced the UK by law to get an agreement is a sure fire way not to give us the best potential outcome. He's obviously open to a no deal at the end. Wrong for most people but OK for a very few. Same story from him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge "

Its called a forum and therefore people can whinge (as you so politely put it) all they like as long as they stick to the thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge "

Still not properly left yet.

That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Still not properly left yet.

That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year."

so will the world end then

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

All good so far ....apart from this cold/flu thing ....I bet the remainers blame that on brexit as well....I'm looking forward to a bright future not looking back moaning

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate

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By *an For YouMan  over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate

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What’s wrong with that ?... sounds like a plan to me lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate

What’s wrong with that ?... sounds like a plan to me lol"

Well, for most people, being Prime Minister (sorry just laughing atm as for some reason Minister got auto-corrected to monster ..) anyway, being Prime Minister should bring with a sense of priorities about the country and doing an actual job but never mind about that just think for one second how his children and now ex-wife must have felt on hearing the news - I mean I know men can be pretty fucking awful and insensitive but wow, he is on a another level of fuck you

That's ok though right, he got Brexit done - can't lol enough for that piece of nonsense

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate

What’s wrong with that ?... sounds like a plan to me lol

Well, for most people, being Prime Minister (sorry just laughing atm as for some reason Minister got auto-corrected to monster ..) anyway, being Prime Minister should bring with a sense of priorities about the country and doing an actual job but never mind about that just think for one second how his children and now ex-wife must have felt on hearing the news - I mean I know men can be pretty fucking awful and insensitive but wow, he is on a another level of fuck you

That's ok though right, he got Brexit done - can't lol enough for that piece of nonsense "

That is right boris is mostly only after the women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All good so far ....apart from this cold/flu thing ....I bet the remainers blame that on brexit as well....I'm looking forward to a bright future not looking back moaning"

We blame the rapidly deterioration of the UK on Brexit. Not the Coronovirus.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All good so far ....apart from this cold/flu thing ....I bet the remainers blame that on brexit as well....I'm looking forward to a bright future not looking back moaning"

All good so far? In what respect is it ‘all good’

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Making more money ..now we have had election and clarity with brexit ...my building company got lots more work .and as a company we will now go ahead with building on our plots ...winner winner..and prices in South East jumped 2.3% in a month....happy days

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Still not properly left yet.

That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year."

Funny the predictions from osborne et al was disaster would happen as soon as a leave vote was the result, the when it didnt remainers said "ah we havent left yet" then when that didnt happen its "oh we havent left properly yet" what will they say when its not disaster next feb I wonder ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Still not properly left yet.

That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year.

Funny the predictions from osborne et al was disaster would happen as soon as a leave vote was the result, the when it didnt remainers said "ah we havent left yet" then when that didnt happen its "oh we havent left properly yet" what will they say when its not disaster next feb I wonder ? "

But we haven’t left? We still pay the EU, no trade , travel or immigration deals have been made yet. It shouldn’t be an ‘overnight’ disaster in Feb, but if we fail to get a good deal or leave with a no deal then you are in for a shock over the next 5 years

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided "
Blah blah blah we have moved on we are leaving there are far more important issues at present get with it

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By *ammskiMan  over a year ago

lytham st.annes


"Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided Blah blah blah we have moved on we are leaving there are far more important issues at present get with it"

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By *ardiffCoupleNJCouple  over a year ago

Pontypridd/Rhyfelin


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge "

Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.

Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).

Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).

Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.

But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).

Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.

And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!

But hey, what have we got to lose?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.

Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).

Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).

Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.

But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).

Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.

And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!

But hey, what have we got to lose?"

I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.

Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).

Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).

Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.

But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).

Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.

And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!

But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?"

There will be a lot of cabbage in the fields.

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By *rench letterCouple  over a year ago

Chorley,


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.

Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).

Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).

Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.

But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).

Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.

And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!

But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?"

Yeah, you are right no one okay these government ministers sat there on there fat arses need to get out in the real world.

If they had done farming they would know what it's all about.

See they have just been given a pay rise could have sacrificed this given some to the flood hit area's. Just makes you blood boil.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.

Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).

Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).

Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.

But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).

Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.

And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!

But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?There will be a lot of cabbage in the fields."

Veg and fruit is a very small part of uk ag if the supermarkets want uk fruit and veg they will have to pay more for it so wages can rise and uk buyers will have to pay a realistic price for food and while some big estates do employee EU workers as milkers most farms do not.

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By *an For YouMan  over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Which is why more people should grow their own .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Part of the reason our productivity is low is that cheap labour stifles innovation.

More automation and leaner production will be driven by demand.

Since 2016 my company has been busier then ever, mostly export and local source driven due to the exchange rate and a change in attitude by buyers.

We could have just added to the head count but we have invested in better plant and upskilling our work force.

The people we have added we are bringing their skills up.

Short term more expensive than just buying people in but long term it will pay dividends.

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By *ardiffCoupleNJCouple  over a year ago

Pontypridd/Rhyfelin


"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now

seems some just want to whinge

Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.

Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).

Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).

Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.

But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).

Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.

And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!

But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?There will be a lot of cabbage in the fields.

Veg and fruit is a very small part of uk ag if the supermarkets want uk fruit and veg they will have to pay more for it so wages can rise and uk buyers will have to pay a realistic price for food and while some big estates do employee EU workers as milkers most farms do not."

I agree -part of the problem is as consumers we are actually not prepared to pay a fair price hence zero hours contracts etc. The problem for many though, after years of austerity, they simply can't afford to pay any more.

So will life be more expensive after Brexit? Yes.

And don't forget the immediate costs -£4.4billion ALREADY spent and we are nowhere near the end yet! Guess where that £4.4billion has come from ....ummm us / the public coffers!!

Compare that to £48m extra earmarked for scientific research (including Coronavirus etc) for example!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. "

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

seems to me, Losers always feel they need to blame someone rather than look in the mirror to see where the blame lies

just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"seems to me, Losers always feel they need to blame someone rather than look in the mirror to see where the blame lies

just a thought."

What do you mean? Who are the ‘losers’ ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. "

Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

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By *an For YouMan  over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. "

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)"

You have learnt his to use the quote option . I agree, but the smaller party has to make more compromises than the larger party? I standby my statement though, a bit deal scenario is worse for the UK than for the EU and both sides know that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. "

Why will it effect their jobs? They will still sell their products over here , they will just be more expensive ? Do you honestly think the EU are going to allow us to trade with them on the same or better terms than we had before??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)

You have learnt his to use the quote option . I agree, but the smaller party has to make more compromises than the larger party? I standby my statement though, a bit deal scenario is worse for the UK than for the EU and both sides know that "

A no deal

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)"

Of course there will be a deal of some description.

Probably automotive and aerospace to the EU's regulations.

Perhaps pharmaceuticals too.

Finance at the EU's regulatory whim.

We can set whatever divergent domestic regulations we want. That will just mean that we get less choice and higher costs.

The withdrawal agreement was modified to the original EU terms where Ireland was a unified area that we said would never happen because we couldn't give it up. Then we did.

I don't really see how you view that as proof of UK negotiating strength.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)"

That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way.

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By *agermeisterMan  over a year ago

Leeds

So glad the NHS are getting that extra £350m what with the coronavirus and everything

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By *agermeisterMan  over a year ago

Leeds


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)

That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way."

Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)

That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way.

Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. "

Nil leverage????? considering the uk adds £66 billion more to the eu than it does to us, they seem desperate for fish i think we have leverage.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"So glad the NHS are getting that extra £350m what with the coronavirus and everything"

No sorry.

Almost £100 million a week is going on the extra 50,000 customs officers and required infrastructure that goes with it.

Plus we heard today that that the U.K. is departing EASA which is another few million a week (subject to final appraisal).

I believe also that the country is already down £4 billion on no deal preparations and a loss to GDP in excess of £400 million a week.

Don’t worry though - Brexit is done.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)

That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way.

Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. Nil leverage????? considering the uk adds £66 billion more to the eu than it does to us, they seem desperate for fish i think we have leverage. "

So the logic of this is we have a stronger negotiating position with China than they do with us?

We also have a far weaker negotiating position with the USA than anyone would think possible as we have a trade surplus with them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)

That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way.

Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. Nil leverage????? considering the uk adds £66 billion more to the eu than it does to us, they seem desperate for fish i think we have leverage. "

Are you suggesting that if we don’t get a deal then we will no longer trade with the EU? We have no choice but to trade with them . Why would the EU give us the same or better deal than the one we had before??

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls"

What type of job?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls

What type of job? "

You should know the answer to that if you have a crystal ball

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls

What type of job?

You should know the answer to that if you have a crystal ball "

I don’t have one, I tend to take notice and listen to economists and people who are far more qualified in these matters , not Dave from the pub

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Oh economists ...they always right ....or is your info from the daily star ....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh economists ...they always right ....or is your info from the daily star ...."

Economists have a better idea about the economy, for sure. The clue is in the name.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

The same ones who claimed when we voted out the country would fold ...oh the bank of England manager also making such predictions ...Labour economists saying we would be doomed ...think I prefer the predictions of mystic meg...probably more accurate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The same ones who claimed when we voted out the country would fold ...oh the bank of England manager also making such predictions ...Labour economists saying we would be doomed ...think I prefer the predictions of mystic meg...probably more accurate "

I think you'll find the overall consensus from economists was that Brexit would be bad for the economy.

And the results are in. Brexit had been bad for the economy.

Shocker.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The same ones who claimed when we voted out the country would fold ...oh the bank of England manager also making such predictions ...Labour economists saying we would be doomed ...think I prefer the predictions of mystic meg...probably more accurate

I think you'll find the overall consensus from economists was that Brexit would be bad for the economy.

And the results are in. Brexit had been bad for the economy.

Shocker."

Exactly, unless our friend from Canterbury has evidence to the contrary.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person"

Or maybe you have just made all that up, I am a property developer and I can assure you house prices didn’t go up 2.8% last month it was 0.3 % .

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Suggest u come to Kent then ...might make more money fella

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Suggest u come to Kent then ...might make more money fella"

Don’t need to, I have property in London, more money there than in Kent fella

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person"

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world."

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Could not give a shit about the real world as you put it ...as long as myself and my family well looked after ..what have I got to worry about ...I will leave saving the universe to others...carry on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?"

Is this a joke question?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could not give a shit about the real world as you put it ...as long as myself and my family well looked after ..what have I got to worry about ...I will leave saving the universe to others...carry on "

You've said.

But you seem to flip flop between "Brexit is great, even though there is no evidence" to "yeah i know brexit is shit, but fuck everyone".

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Wow yet again ....I trust your judgement as you are always right ...lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wow yet again ....I trust your judgement as you are always right ...lol"

Everything okay today?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?"

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Only if you say it is, again you always right ....No need for other people in the forum ...surprised Boris does not want you to help him with brexit x

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet "

I think you need to change newspapers I think the daily mirror is spoiling you mind fella

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet I think you need to change newspapers I think the daily mirror is spoiling you mind fella"

Lol.

So which one are we saying at the moment?

Brexit is great for no reason, or Brexit is shit and fuck everyone?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet I think you need to change newspapers I think the daily mirror is spoiling you mind fella"

I don’t read it, what does it say?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet "

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

Is this a joke question?"

And your actual tangible proof is?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Whatever Brexit we finally get it will be brilliant for some people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has."

You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Brexit was never about money and doing better it was about leaving the EU superstate. The EU is broken but the powers that be can't or won't see it, on the outside we can work with them. Staying in means you just get sucked down with them. Let's start working with the EU and not for the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Brexit was never about money and doing better it was about leaving the EU superstate. The EU is broken but the powers that be can't or won't see it, on the outside we can work with them. Staying in means you just get sucked down with them. Let's start working with the EU and not for the EU. "

So you agree we will be worse off? If the EU is ‘broken’ what is the point of us ‘working with them’ .

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

I'm afraid money does have something to do with it!! The UK has been paying vast amounts to the EU which is another reason to exit!! The UK has been paying the EU almost £20 billion per year!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.

You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons . "

Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.

I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.

The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm afraid money does have something to do with it!! The UK has been paying vast amounts to the EU which is another reason to exit!! The UK has been paying the EU almost £20 billion per year!! "

No it hasn't

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.

You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .

Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.

I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.

The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.

"

You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?"

O dear, where did you get that figure from?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?"

Wow. Just wow.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow. "

He must have read it on the side of a bus

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus "

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/"

O dear again

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

O dear again "

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/european-union-finances-2018

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

O dear again "

You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

O dear again

You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!"

And you haven’t got a clue what your talking about if you think we paid the EU £350 million pounds a week, no wonder you voted to leave

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/"

You do realise this link you've posted to back up your 20 billion a year claim blows your figure out of the water

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

O dear again

You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!"

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

In case you are still confused

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

You do realise this link you've posted to back up your 20 billion a year claim blows your figure out of the water "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

O dear again

You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!"

Ha, these comments are amusing,

leave voter makes wild exaggerated claims,

gets proved wrong by his own sources

remainers question rational

Leaver throws tantrums "you lost" blah de blah

Boris's Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?

Wow. Just wow.

He must have read it on the side of a bus

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

O dear again

You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!

Ha, these comments are amusing,

leave voter makes wild exaggerated claims,

gets proved wrong by his own sources

remainers question rational

Leaver throws tantrums "you lost" blah de blah

Boris's Brexit "

It’s almost as if he didn’t really know what he was voting for . How did that happen

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

Yes OK not quite £20billion but if you look at the figures we were losing money to the EU - it stated 'The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back.

In 2018 the UK government paid £13 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at nearly £9 billion.' https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit but the leavers are the silent majority because they understand the problems of the EU!

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes OK not quite £20billion but if you look at the figures we were losing money to the EU - it stated 'The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back.

In 2018 the UK government paid £13 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at nearly £9 billion.' https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/"

Yes thems the facts

Indeed if you simply look at the figure we pay into the EU vs the amount we get back in physical money then yes we are a net contributor

But

That presumes you either are not taking into account the monetary benifits that membership brought to the UK or you simply don't know or understand what benefits we got through being a member, it has to be one of those.

Either way I've never refused to accept the vote result so I'm no bitter remainer but I do question leavers when they make wholly inaccurate statements and base them as the foundation for voting leave to begin with

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit "

LOL, you can’t help yourself can you

Please, carry on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!"

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit but the leavers are the silent majority because they understand the problems of the EU! "

What are the problems my well informed friend

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

Yes because it's true - for some reason it is always the losers who have to have the upper hand - to state why Brexit is a problem for this country - that's the trouble with most things in life they are too concerned with the short term but should be looking at the longer term prospects i.e. saving money being spent on the EU. In return UK receives money for sheep farming and free flow of immigration - hardly benefits to the amount that is sent to the EU - no wonder the roads in France are so much better than the UK now or even in Poland - using the money we send to the EU! Good riddance is what I say. Plus we can control other activities such as the new Agricultural Bill rather than the common agricultural policy and eat more local rather than buying European goods such as cucumbers from Amsterdam !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes because it's true - for some reason it is always the losers who have to have the upper hand - to state why Brexit is a problem for this country - that's the trouble with most things in life they are too concerned with the short term but should be looking at the longer term prospects i.e. saving money being spent on the EU. In return UK receives money for sheep farming and free flow of immigration - hardly benefits to the amount that is sent to the EU - no wonder the roads in France are so much better than the UK now or even in Poland - using the money we send to the EU! Good riddance is what I say. Plus we can control other activities such as the new Agricultural Bill rather than the common agricultural policy and eat more local rather than buying European goods such as cucumbers from Amsterdam !"

The gift that keeps on giving.

When do we get our ‘democracy ‘ back

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? "

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! "

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree "

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. "

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week? "

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal"

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility "

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating! "

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility "

OK can you find one to say the opposite of Government Policy? I don't think so somehow … as that is the Policy ! LOL you must be thick

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week "

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! "

Sounds like Farage's pocket book 101 of Brexit sayings

Wow, ruled by unelected bureaucrats, that load of bollocks still doing the rounds eh....

All them "elected" unelected bureaucrats...

Imagine, we've not been able to make any of our own legislation or laws for 40+ years, none at all.... oh wait....

That post is just fear propaganda from Farage & Co and you're one of many that have fallen for it hook line & sinker.

At least try and use real facts as your arguments as there are many things I dislike about the EU but that load of old tosh isn't any of them

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands


"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball.

Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of.

The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs.

That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)"

And they were right, it wasn't reopened.

What's the difference the deal Boris claims he brokered compared to the donkey before him ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!"

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse "

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

OK can you find one to say the opposite of Government Policy? I don't think so somehow … as that is the Policy ! LOL you must be thick"

Ah, so now your are getting narky and resorting to insults, no need for that Owen. So, just to clarify , you are quoting government policy that hasn’t been introduced as yet and evidence that it will be good for the economy? How long is the government going to continue paying farmers the £3 billion they currently receive from the EU? Fishing will no doubt benefit from Brexit but at present accounts for 0.12 % of our economy and employs 24,000 people, now, give me some more substantial benefits we will get from leaving the EU?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers "

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers "

You stated something as fact then blew yourself up on your own link lol, I'd call that loosing it

Yes Brexit may be good in the long run

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

What we rowing about tonight then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What we rowing about tonight then? "

LOL, leavers dementia I think

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What we rowing about tonight then? "

Who is rowing? You made claims, copied a link that refuted those claims then proceeded to make insults.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"What we rowing about tonight then?

Who is rowing? You made claims, copied a link that refuted those claims then proceeded to make insults. "

Apologise.

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen? "

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand."

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Owen my friend ...some on here know it all and just don't get it ...they lost ...mate all noise ..but hey Boris will sort it and can't wait for a posative future ...I think remoaners brains gone ...lots of frustration....they need to find a girlfriend to concentrate the mind....rather than their best friend ....the right hand x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol "

You are in for a shock when you see what our new deal with US will look like then . Trump will

take us to the cleaners , ‘America first ‘

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Owen my friend ...some on here know it all and just don't get it ...they lost ...mate all noise ..but hey Boris will sort it and can't wait for a posative future ...I think remoaners brains gone ...lots of frustration....they need to find a girlfriend to concentrate the mind....rather than their best friend ....the right hand x"

Hello, good to see your back on here, you must get confused when you read my verifications

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do "

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!"

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules."

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??"

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'"

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up "

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!"

You didn’t answer my question, why won’t we get a great deal? I am sure Boris Johnson promised us a fantastic , oven ready Brexit deal? I don’t see any reference to a no deal in those government proposals you highlighted?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!"

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.

You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .

Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.

I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.

The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.

You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone? "

The majority of employers in the uk are SME so don’t try to belittle me with your “tiny” comments

How about backing up your posts with some facts.

This is the problem with these threads for some reason you great big sexy “property developers “(jobing builder) and other “professionals “ hate anyone with any positives.

I interact with lots of other businesses and attend networking events through the FSB, so within my industry and within my area, midlands, the south east and the southwest I do have some knowledge gained through experience that sometimes I can’t help but impart.

But obviously you know better as your a builder from Manchester with “property” in London.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.

You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .

Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.

I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.

The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.

You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone?

The majority of employers in the uk are SME so don’t try to belittle me with your “tiny” comments

How about backing up your posts with some facts.

This is the problem with these threads for some reason you great big sexy “property developers “(jobing builder) and other “professionals “ hate anyone with any positives.

I interact with lots of other businesses and attend networking events through the FSB, so within my industry and within my area, midlands, the south east and the southwest I do have some knowledge gained through experience that sometimes I can’t help but impart.

But obviously you know better as your a builder from Manchester with “property” in London."

I am not a builder, I invest in property, I don’t employ anyone and have built my portfolio with my own money I am small scale compared to

some and Brexit will probably be financially beneficial to me .I am not naive enough to think it will benefit all those who have invested in property. How many people do you employ? would it be a fair to say that just because you are going to benefit from Brexit that this won’t be the case for everyone? Would it also be fair to say that Brexit will cause many businesses to struggle and close? And I will remind you again, we haven’t properly left , we are still tied to all the EUs trade deals . How can you be certain that you will prosper in the future when you don’t know what type of Brexit you will get?

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/"

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person

I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity.

As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information.

The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world.

So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?

A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet

Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.

I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.

The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.

So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.

You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .

Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.

I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.

The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.

You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone?

The majority of employers in the uk are SME so don’t try to belittle me with your “tiny” comments

How about backing up your posts with some facts.

This is the problem with these threads for some reason you great big sexy “property developers “(jobing builder) and other “professionals “ hate anyone with any positives.

I interact with lots of other businesses and attend networking events through the FSB, so within my industry and within my area, midlands, the south east and the southwest I do have some knowledge gained through experience that sometimes I can’t help but impart.

But obviously you know better as your a builder from Manchester with “property” in London.

I am not a builder, I invest in property, I don’t employ anyone and have built my portfolio with my own money I am small scale compared to

some and Brexit will probably be financially beneficial to me .I am not naive enough to think it will benefit all those who have invested in property. How many people do you employ? would it be a fair to say that just because you are going to benefit from Brexit that this won’t be the case for everyone? Would it also be fair to say that Brexit will cause many businesses to struggle and close? And I will remind you again, we haven’t properly left , we are still tied to all the EUs trade deals . How can you be certain that you will prosper in the future when you don’t know what type of Brexit you will get? "

Lol what does it matter how many ppl he employs? You sound jealous and bitter. Think you need to get over yourself ... yes funny you live in Manchester ... shouldn't you be in London managing your property 'empire' lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?"

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are benefits to any scenario but there are also negatives to consider and not to consider them is foolish.

That seems to be an overwhelming factor on here, people either don't know there's negatives to Brexit and can't weigh up a balanced view or they simply don't care.

Personally as long as Brexit doesn't negatively affect me then I don't really give a shit to be honest but what I will always do is challenge incorrect statements if their posted as facts

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands


"Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol "

Wait until you have to live by Trump's rules ... Just saying

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol

Wait until you have to live by Trump's rules ... Just saying"

You have got that absolutely right.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people are so willing to demonstrate their own ignorance, so willfully and so regularly on social media.

The statement you are quoting is a perfect example of such ignorance. It is the very caricature of simple, one-dimensional thinking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit but the leavers are the silent majority because they understand the problems of the EU! "

I think this sums up the UK right now.

There are those who think they are "winners" because a slim majority of the population did exactly as they were told to do purely for the benefit or a handful of rich elite.

The real winners are those who stand to make money from Brexit. Want to know who those people are. Look at who funded the leave campaign.

The real losers. All of us. Just some of us are aware of it, and some people still believe in fairies and anything written on the side of a bus.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This thread is hilarious - its like groundhog day ffs. Leaver thinks that he is being positive and forward thinking, gets asked a difficult question, fumbles the answer, loses his composure when shown up and then starts calling people names, gets a load of support from similar overworked brains and then cant understand why the majority are laughing at his posts. If you believe in Brexit and no deal then thats your choice but pulling government propaganda , sorry, proposals out of your pocket is the same as magic beans and we all know thats a fairytale dont we lmao

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands

You gotta admit though win, lose, leave or remain

IMHO Boris is a devious cunt not to be trusted

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person"

Not trying to blow holes in your argument but are you sure you aren't just profiting from the people who have been priced out of London moving to kent? Margate certainly has come up in the world because of that, and the Turner and Tracey Emin effect

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal. "

You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.

You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use ! "

We never paid the EU £350 million a week, Boris lied to you , just because it was written on the side of the bus doesn’t make it true. The benefits of staying in the EU are well documented, there is no point in me listing them here as you have been brainwashed . At least you are trying to refrain from petty name calling and insults , well done . I will now be ignoring your posts, I hope Brexit is all that you hoped for

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By *wen1245Man  over a year ago

Sussex


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.

You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !

We never paid the EU £350 million a week, Boris lied to you , just because it was written on the side of the bus doesn’t make it true. The benefits of staying in the EU are well documented, there is no point in me listing them here as you have been brainwashed . At least you are trying to refrain from petty name calling and insults , well done . I will now be ignoring your posts, I hope Brexit is all that you hoped for

"

Boris quoted it to get everyone to open there eyes to the EU that's why. Ok in reality it's more like £250 million per week and £9billion per year we never get back! Lol me been brainwashed?? I think you have ... thinking the EU is all so wonderful. .. . You do realise that the EU would want you to eventually adopt the Euro and become one state ... maybe that's something you'd like .. basicially your vote would have even less say ... haha you the one who is brainwashed!!

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.

You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !

We never paid the EU £350 million a week, Boris lied to you , just because it was written on the side of the bus doesn’t make it true. The benefits of staying in the EU are well documented, there is no point in me listing them here as you have been brainwashed . At least you are trying to refrain from petty name calling and insults , well done . I will now be ignoring your posts, I hope Brexit is all that you hoped for

Boris quoted it to get everyone to open there eyes to the EU that's why. Ok in reality it's more like £250 million per week and £9billion per year we never get back! Lol me been brainwashed?? I think you have ... thinking the EU is all so wonderful. .. . You do realise that the EU would want you to eventually adopt the Euro and become one state ... maybe that's something you'd like .. basicially your vote would have even less say ... haha you the one who is brainwashed!!"

I have avoided responding to your consistently false, fake and truly ignorant posts on this thread. But really there comes a time when ignorance has to be called out.

The U.K. has a permanent opt out from the Euro, from , from ever closer Union and from any proposed future (so called) EU Army. This is not fantasy - it is stone cold fact.

If you object to regional funding of the EU on principle, then by default you must disagree with regional funding here in the U.K. too? Just because you choose not to read anything that does not tell the truth about the financial benefits of being in the EU doesn’t mean that there aren’t any. Economies of scale for example provide huge savings - not costs. Two very recent examples are the UK’s proposed withdrawal from EASA which will turn a £4 million per years cost into EASA into a £40 million direct cost to recreate it and still have to abide by EASA - ie ten times the cost and double the bureaucratic headaches. Then you can add the £2 billion a year for 50,000 extra customs officers and all of the attendant infrastructure. Those are just two direct examples that have been in the news recently.

What about the trade benefits of being able to trade frictionless with our nearest neighbours instead of with countries on the other side of the planet? It was a previous Conservative Government that championed the Single Market because it would give the UK a manufacturing benefit - more trade and more production means more taxes and more credence for UK PLC.

I get it that you like to fly the union flag from your erect cock and wave it at stupid foreigners but do yourself a favour and at least try to be factual in what you write.

As it stands your posts are the very caricature of Mr Angry Brexiter - no facts, no thought, no detail and mainly lies picked up from biased sources.

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.

You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use ! "

I guess pointing out to you that the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU and is a part of the Council of Europe is pointless, right?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!

You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means??

It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice!

Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree

Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about.

Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?

Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?

Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy

Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production

NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal

Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility

LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!

You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week

Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!

Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse

How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers

Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?

I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.

Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do

Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!

I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.

Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.

Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??

Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'

You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up

Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!

I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read

https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/

Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?

Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?

Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.

You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !

I guess pointing out to you that the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU and is a part of the Council of Europe is pointless, right?

-Matt"

Don’t confuse him with facts, he will start calling you names

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham


"Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided "

He listens to who ever is donating the most money, he doesn't care what happens as he has a big salary and decent pension to look forward to.

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