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"Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself. " That is right, he is changing a lot, he is also secret remainer. | |||
"Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself. That is right, he is changing a lot, he is also secret remainer." He's a leave her. Boris walks out on everything and everyone in the end. | |||
"Johnson's beliefs change to fit whatever he thinks will help him get ahead. He doesn't give a toss about anybody apart from himself. That is right, he is changing a lot, he is also secret remainer. He's a leave her. Boris walks out on everything and everyone in the end. " He is a remainer it is well dokumented but he changed his mind as it is on his bucket list to be a pm there. | |||
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"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge "Its called a forum and therefore people can whinge (as you so politely put it) all they like as long as they stick to the thread  | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge "Still not properly left yet. That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year. | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Still not properly left yet.
That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year."so will the world end then  | |||
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"Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate " What’s wrong with that ?... sounds like a plan to me lol | |||
"Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate What’s wrong with that ?... sounds like a plan to me lol" Well, for most people, being Prime Minister (sorry just laughing atm as for some reason Minister got auto-corrected to monster ..) anyway, being Prime Minister should bring with a sense of priorities about the country and doing an actual job but never mind about that just think for one second how his children and now ex-wife must have felt on hearing the news - I mean I know men can be pretty fucking awful and insensitive but wow, he is on a another level of fuck you That's ok though right, he got Brexit done - can't lol enough for that piece of nonsense | |||
"Shag, I think it's always been clear to some, and now to most people, even his die-hard supporters, that the only thing of any concern to Boris Johnson is which lady he can stick his penis into and impregnate What’s wrong with that ?... sounds like a plan to me lol Well, for most people, being Prime Minister (sorry just laughing atm as for some reason Minister got auto-corrected to monster ..) anyway, being Prime Minister should bring with a sense of priorities about the country and doing an actual job but never mind about that just think for one second how his children and now ex-wife must have felt on hearing the news - I mean I know men can be pretty fucking awful and insensitive but wow, he is on a another level of fuck you That's ok though right, he got Brexit done - can't lol enough for that piece of nonsense " That is right boris is mostly only after the women. | |||
"All good so far ....apart from this cold/flu thing ....I bet the remainers blame that on brexit as well....I'm looking forward to a bright future not looking back moaning" We blame the rapidly deterioration of the UK on Brexit. Not the Coronovirus. | |||
"All good so far ....apart from this cold/flu thing ....I bet the remainers blame that on brexit as well....I'm looking forward to a bright future not looking back moaning" All good so far? In what respect is it ‘all good’ | |||
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"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Still not properly left yet.
That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year."Funny the predictions from osborne et al was disaster would happen as soon as a leave vote was the result, the when it didnt remainers said "ah we havent left yet" then when that didnt happen its "oh we havent left properly yet" what will they say when its not disaster next feb I wonder ? | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Still not properly left yet.
That doesnt happen untill at least the end of the year.
Funny the predictions from osborne et al was disaster would happen as soon as a leave vote was the result, the when it didnt remainers said "ah we havent left yet" then when that didnt happen its "oh we havent left properly yet" what will they say when its not disaster next feb I wonder ? "But we haven’t left? We still pay the EU, no trade , travel or immigration deals have been made yet. It shouldn’t be an ‘overnight’ disaster in Feb, but if we fail to get a good deal or leave with a no deal then you are in for a shock over the next 5 years | |||
"Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided "Blah blah blah we have moved on we are leaving there are far more important issues at present get with it | |||
"Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided Blah blah blah we have moved on we are leaving there are far more important issues at present get with it" | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge "Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain. Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?). Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course). Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit. But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc). Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible. And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!! But hey, what have we got to lose? | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.
Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).
Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).
Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.
But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).
Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.
And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!
But hey, what have we got to lose?"I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu? | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.
Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).
Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).
Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.
But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).
Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.
And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!
But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?"There will be a lot of cabbage in the fields. | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.
Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).
Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).
Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.
But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).
Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.
And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!
But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?"Yeah, you are right no one okay these government ministers sat there on there fat arses need to get out in the real world. If they had done farming they would know what it's all about. See they have just been given a pay rise could have sacrificed this given some to the flood hit area's. Just makes you blood boil. | |||
"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.
Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).
Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).
Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.
But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).
Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.
And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!
But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?There will be a lot of cabbage in the fields."Veg and fruit is a very small part of uk ag if the supermarkets want uk fruit and veg they will have to pay more for it so wages can rise and uk buyers will have to pay a realistic price for food and while some big estates do employee EU workers as milkers most farms do not. | |||
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"Its early days and none of the doom and gloom that remainers have shouted about have happened, all is good right now seems some just want to whinge
Well the value of the pound is rather less that it was when the markets believed we were going to vote remain.
Which means its more expensive to travel abroad. But hey our exports are cheaper as I'm sure those of you that work in manufacturing will know (anyone...?).
Of course, for now we are still in the EU to all intent & purpose (though we have no say in the running any more of course).
Who knows how it'll affect us by the time a settlement is negotiated as we have zero indication of what that settlement might be. Nada. No idea whatsoever what agreement will finally be reached. In any case the full impact will probably take 10 years or more to be wholly felt as more and more changes come into force. Any negative impacts will be written off by politicians as being down to something other than Brexit.
But of course we now have control of our borders (well almost) ....and will have a points based system so no more immigration -except that the rules will be watered down more and more until it doesn't matter anymore because otherwise we can't actually fill the low paid jobs such as casual summer fruit pickers, hospital carers, cleaners etc. (Not to mention the fact we've always had control of borders outside the EU with Asia, the Middle East, Africa etc etc).
Other export markets are sure to open up. Of course most of those are at least an ocean away. At a time when climate change is becoming very apparent it makes sense to focus trade on partners as far away as possible.
And how the UK Union will look 10 years from now is anyone's guess!!
But hey, what have we got to lose?I wonder who will be helping the farmers as most of gheir workers are from the eu?There will be a lot of cabbage in the fields.
Veg and fruit is a very small part of uk ag if the supermarkets want uk fruit and veg they will have to pay more for it so wages can rise and uk buyers will have to pay a realistic price for food and while some big estates do employee EU workers as milkers most farms do not."I agree -part of the problem is as consumers we are actually not prepared to pay a fair price hence zero hours contracts etc. The problem for many though, after years of austerity, they simply can't afford to pay any more. So will life be more expensive after Brexit? Yes. And don't forget the immediate costs -£4.4billion ALREADY spent and we are nowhere near the end yet! Guess where that £4.4billion has come from ....ummm us / the public coffers!! Compare that to £48m extra earmarked for scientific research (including Coronavirus etc) for example! | |||
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"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. " The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. | |||
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"seems to me, Losers always feel they need to blame someone rather than look in the mirror to see where the blame lies just a thought." What do you mean? Who are the ‘losers’ ? | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. " Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. " That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened) | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)" You have learnt his to use the quote option . I agree, but the smaller party has to make more compromises than the larger party? I standby my statement though, a bit deal scenario is worse for the UK than for the EU and both sides know that | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. " Why will it effect their jobs? They will still sell their products over here , they will just be more expensive ? Do you honestly think the EU are going to allow us to trade with them on the same or better terms than we had before?? | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened) You have learnt his to use the quote option . I agree, but the smaller party has to make more compromises than the larger party? I standby my statement though, a bit deal scenario is worse for the UK than for the EU and both sides know that " A no deal | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)" Of course there will be a deal of some description. Probably automotive and aerospace to the EU's regulations. Perhaps pharmaceuticals too. Finance at the EU's regulatory whim. We can set whatever divergent domestic regulations we want. That will just mean that we get less choice and higher costs. The withdrawal agreement was modified to the original EU terms where Ireland was a unified area that we said would never happen because we couldn't give it up. Then we did. I don't really see how you view that as proof of UK negotiating strength. | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)" That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way. | |||
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"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened) That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way." Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened) That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way. Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. " Nil leverage????? considering the uk adds £66 billion more to the eu than it does to us, they seem desperate for fish i think we have leverage. | |||
"So glad the NHS are getting that extra £350m what with the coronavirus and everything" No sorry. Almost £100 million a week is going on the extra 50,000 customs officers and required infrastructure that goes with it. Plus we heard today that that the U.K. is departing EASA which is another few million a week (subject to final appraisal). I believe also that the country is already down £4 billion on no deal preparations and a loss to GDP in excess of £400 million a week. Don’t worry though - Brexit is done. | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened) That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way. Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. Nil leverage????? considering the uk adds £66 billion more to the eu than it does to us, they seem desperate for fish i think we have leverage. "So the logic of this is we have a stronger negotiating position with China than they do with us? We also have a far weaker negotiating position with the USA than anyone would think possible as we have a trade surplus with them  | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened) That is far too sensible and how all negotiations work. A good negotiation is one where all parties walk out the room smiling. This will most likely go that way. Why will it? The UK has nil leverage. The EU will be quite happy to make an example of the UK and Brexit. Nil leverage????? considering the uk adds £66 billion more to the eu than it does to us, they seem desperate for fish i think we have leverage. "Are you suggesting that if we don’t get a deal then we will no longer trade with the EU? We have no choice but to trade with them . Why would the EU give us the same or better deal than the one we had before?? | |||
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"Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls" What type of job? | |||
"Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls What type of job? " You should know the answer to that if you have a crystal ball | |||
"Blimey your good you seem to know it all ...want a job ...with ya crystal balls What type of job? You should know the answer to that if you have a crystal ball "I don’t have one, I tend to take notice and listen to economists and people who are far more qualified in these matters , not Dave from the pub | |||
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"Oh economists ...they always right ....or is your info from the daily star ...." Economists have a better idea about the economy, for sure. The clue is in the name. | |||
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"The same ones who claimed when we voted out the country would fold ...oh the bank of England manager also making such predictions ...Labour economists saying we would be doomed ...think I prefer the predictions of mystic meg...probably more accurate " I think you'll find the overall consensus from economists was that Brexit would be bad for the economy. And the results are in. Brexit had been bad for the economy. Shocker. | |||
"The same ones who claimed when we voted out the country would fold ...oh the bank of England manager also making such predictions ...Labour economists saying we would be doomed ...think I prefer the predictions of mystic meg...probably more accurate I think you'll find the overall consensus from economists was that Brexit would be bad for the economy. And the results are in. Brexit had been bad for the economy. Shocker." Exactly, unless our friend from Canterbury has evidence to the contrary. | |||
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"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person" Or maybe you have just made all that up, I am a property developer and I can assure you house prices didn’t go up 2.8% last month it was 0.3 % . | |||
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"Suggest u come to Kent then ...might make more money fella" Don’t need to, I have property in London, more money there than in Kent fella | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person" I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world." So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? | |||
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"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?" Is this a joke question? | |||
"Could not give a shit about the real world as you put it ...as long as myself and my family well looked after ..what have I got to worry about ...I will leave saving the universe to others...carry on " You've said. But you seem to flip flop between "Brexit is great, even though there is no evidence" to "yeah i know brexit is shit, but fuck everyone". | |||
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"Wow yet again ....I trust your judgement as you are always right ...lol" Everything okay today? | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy?" A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet | |||
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"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet "I think you need to change newspapers I think the daily mirror is spoiling you mind fella | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet I think you need to change newspapers I think the daily mirror is spoiling you mind fella"Lol. So which one are we saying at the moment? Brexit is great for no reason, or Brexit is shit and fuck everyone? | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet I think you need to change newspapers I think the daily mirror is spoiling you mind fella"I don’t read it, what does it say? | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet "Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally. I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy. The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit. So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has. | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? Is this a joke question?" And your actual tangible proof is? | |||
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"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet
Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.
I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.
The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.
So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has."You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons . | |||
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"Brexit was never about money and doing better it was about leaving the EU superstate. The EU is broken but the powers that be can't or won't see it, on the outside we can work with them. Staying in means you just get sucked down with them. Let's start working with the EU and not for the EU. " So you agree we will be worse off? If the EU is ‘broken’ what is the point of us ‘working with them’ . | |||
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"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet
Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.
I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.
The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.
So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.
You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons . "Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit. I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board. The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage. | |||
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"I'm afraid money does have something to do with it!! The UK has been paying vast amounts to the EU which is another reason to exit!! The UK has been paying the EU almost £20 billion per year!! " No it hasn't | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet
Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.
I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.
The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.
So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.
You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .
Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.
I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.
The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.
"You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone? | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?" O dear, where did you get that figure from? | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU?" Wow. Just wow. | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. " He must have read it on the side of a bus | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus "https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/ | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/"O dear again | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
O dear again "https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/european-union-finances-2018 | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
O dear again "You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!! | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
O dear again
You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!"And you haven’t got a clue what your talking about if you think we paid the EU £350 million pounds a week, no wonder you voted to leave | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/"You do realise this link you've posted to back up your 20 billion a year claim blows your figure out of the water | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
O dear again
You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!"https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/ In case you are still confused | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
You do realise this link you've posted to back up your 20 billion a year claim blows your figure out of the water " | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
O dear again
You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!"Ha, these comments are amusing, leave voter makes wild exaggerated claims, gets proved wrong by his own sources remainers question rational Leaver throws tantrums "you lost" blah de blah
Boris's Brexit | |||
"You do realise that the UK has been paying the EU £350 million per week and almost £20 billion per year to just stay in the EU? Wow. Just wow. He must have read it on the side of a bus
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
O dear again
You're just a scared remoaner ! Well unluckily for you the great majority of people in this country voted the sensible option - to leave!!
Ha, these comments are amusing,
leave voter makes wild exaggerated claims,
gets proved wrong by his own sources
remainers question rational
Leaver throws tantrums "you lost" blah de blah
Boris's Brexit "It’s almost as if he didn’t really know what he was voting for . How did that happen | |||
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"Yes OK not quite £20billion but if you look at the figures we were losing money to the EU - it stated 'The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back. In 2018 the UK government paid £13 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at nearly £9 billion.' https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/" Yes thems the facts
Indeed if you simply look at the figure we pay into the EU vs the amount we get back in physical money then yes we are a net contributor
But
That presumes you either are not taking into account the monetary benifits that membership brought to the UK or you simply don't know or understand what benefits we got through being a member, it has to be one of those.
Either way I've never refused to accept the vote result so I'm no bitter remainer but I do question leavers when they make wholly inaccurate statements and base them as the foundation for voting leave to begin with  | |||
"Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit " LOL, you can’t help yourself can you
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"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!!" You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? | |||
"Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit but the leavers are the silent majority because they understand the problems of the EU! " What are the problems my well informed friend | |||
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"Yes because it's true - for some reason it is always the losers who have to have the upper hand - to state why Brexit is a problem for this country - that's the trouble with most things in life they are too concerned with the short term but should be looking at the longer term prospects i.e. saving money being spent on the EU. In return UK receives money for sheep farming and free flow of immigration - hardly benefits to the amount that is sent to the EU - no wonder the roads in France are so much better than the UK now or even in Poland - using the money we send to the EU! Good riddance is what I say. Plus we can control other activities such as the new Agricultural Bill rather than the common agricultural policy and eat more local rather than buying European goods such as cucumbers from Amsterdam !" The gift that keeps on giving.
When do we get our ‘democracy ‘ back | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? " It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! " Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree " Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. " Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week? | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week? "Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news? Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal"Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility  | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility "LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating! "You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility "OK can you find one to say the opposite of Government Policy? I don't think so somehow … as that is the Policy ! LOL you must be thick | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week "Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! " Sounds like Farage's pocket book 101 of Brexit sayings
Wow, ruled by unelected bureaucrats, that load of bollocks still doing the rounds eh....
All them "elected" unelected bureaucrats...
Imagine, we've not been able to make any of our own legislation or laws for 40+ years, none at all.... oh wait....
That post is just fear propaganda from Farage & Co and you're one of many that have fallen for it hook line & sinker.
At least try and use real facts as your arguments as there are many things I dislike about the EU but that load of old tosh isn't any of them | |||
"Ok the government is looking at no deal because the EU are playing hard ball. Do you think the EU will go for no deal on nearly 200 billion pounds worth of their trade, hold fire they will sort a deal out end of. The EU can survive a no deal situation far more comfortably than the UK can. Tell that to the French farmers and VW worker's, it's only money and their jobs. That old , tired, dragged out chestnut. So the EU are sat there thinking; well we can survive a no deal better than the UK so fuck the brits. Or maybe the EU have a position, the UK has a position and negotiations will take place to find a solution to the differing positions, which both sides can live with. Neither side will get what they want 100%. It’s how international agreements are made such as the withdrawal agreement ( the one the EU said would NEVER be re-opened)" And they were right, it wasn't reopened. What's the difference the deal Boris claims he brokered compared to the donkey before him ? | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!"Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse "How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
OK can you find one to say the opposite of Government Policy? I don't think so somehow … as that is the Policy ! LOL you must be thick"Ah, so now your are getting narky and resorting to insults, no need for that Owen. So, just to clarify , you are quoting government policy that hasn’t been introduced as yet and evidence that it will be good for the economy? How long is the government going to continue paying farmers the £3 billion they currently receive from the EU? Fishing will no doubt benefit from Brexit but at present accounts for 0.12 % of our economy and employs 24,000 people, now, give me some more substantial benefits we will get from leaving the EU? | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers "Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen? | |||
" How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers " You stated something as fact then blew yourself up on your own link lol, I'd call that loosing it Yes Brexit may be good in the long run  | |||
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"What we rowing about tonight then? "LOL, leavers dementia I think | |||
"What we rowing about tonight then? "Who is rowing? You made claims, copied a link that refuted those claims then proceeded to make insults. | |||
"What we rowing about tonight then?
Who is rowing? You made claims, copied a link that refuted those claims then proceeded to make insults. "Apologise. | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen? "I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand. | |||
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"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand."Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do | |||
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"Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol " You are in for a shock when you see what our new deal with US will look like then . Trump will take us to the cleaners , ‘America first ‘ | |||
"Owen my friend ...some on here know it all and just don't get it ...they lost ...mate all noise ..but hey Boris will sort it and can't wait for a posative future ...I think remoaners brains gone ...lots of frustration....they need to find a girlfriend to concentrate the mind....rather than their best friend ....the right hand x" Hello, good to see your back on here, you must get confused when you read my verifications | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do "Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!"I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not. | |||
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"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules."Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal?? | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??"Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal' | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'"You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up "Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!"You didn’t answer my question, why won’t we get a great deal? I am sure Boris Johnson promised us a fantastic , oven ready Brexit deal? I don’t see any reference to a no deal in those government proposals you highlighted? | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!"I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/ | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet
Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.
I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.
The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.
So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.
You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .
Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.
I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.
The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.
You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone? "The majority of employers in the uk are SME so don’t try to belittle me with your “tiny” comments How about backing up your posts with some facts. This is the problem with these threads for some reason you great big sexy “property developers “(jobing builder) and other “professionals “ hate anyone with any positives. I interact with lots of other businesses and attend networking events through the FSB, so within my industry and within my area, midlands, the south east and the southwest I do have some knowledge gained through experience that sometimes I can’t help but impart. But obviously you know better as your a builder from Manchester with “property” in London. | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet
Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.
I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.
The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.
So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.
You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .
Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.
I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.
The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.
You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone?
The majority of employers in the uk are SME so don’t try to belittle me with your “tiny” comments
How about backing up your posts with some facts.
This is the problem with these threads for some reason you great big sexy “property developers “(jobing builder) and other “professionals “ hate anyone with any positives.
I interact with lots of other businesses and attend networking events through the FSB, so within my industry and within my area, midlands, the south east and the southwest I do have some knowledge gained through experience that sometimes I can’t help but impart.
But obviously you know better as your a builder from Manchester with “property” in London."I am not a builder, I invest in property, I don’t employ anyone and have built my portfolio with my own money I am small scale compared to some and Brexit will probably be financially beneficial to me .I am not naive enough to think it will benefit all those who have invested in property. How many people do you employ? would it be a fair to say that just because you are going to benefit from Brexit that this won’t be the case for everyone? Would it also be fair to say that Brexit will cause many businesses to struggle and close? And I will remind you again, we haven’t properly left , we are still tied to all the EUs trade deals . How can you be certain that you will prosper in the future when you don’t know what type of Brexit you will get? | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/"Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you? Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about? | |||
"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person I'd suggest the problem isn't related to your lack of negativity. As you demonstrated you used anecdotal evidence instead of actual proper information. The same with everything in life, you're free to believe anything you want. The moon is made of cheese, climate change isn't happening, Brexit is good for the economy. But your personal belief has no impact on the real world. So what is your proof that specificity actions around Brexit has damaged the economy? A weaker pound , lower GDP growth , 4.4 billion spent on Brexit , how ever , we haven’t properly left yet
Most commentators said the pound was over priced and the lower pound has been a boon to exporters and has focused minds on buying locally.
I run a small manufacturing company and we have never been so busy.
The falls in growth across other nations, not because of Brexit but because of USA/China trade relations and other factors but somehow our woes are not caused by those that have effected the rest of the world because we can blame Brexit.
So do you have an absolute correlation showing Brexit and nothing else has caused damage to the economy or is it just obvious cause it has.
You run a ‘small ‘ manufacturing company? How many people do you employ? Are you suggesting that because a tiny company is doing well then the rest of the UK will do the same . Just for clarity, we haven’t properly left yet , no trade deals have been made, however £4.4 billions pounds off tax payers money has been spent . Even the most ardent leave voters must now realise /admit that Brexit will not benefit the economy and that they voted to leave for other reasons .
Just asking, for the actual proof you have that Brexit has produced a measurable detrimental effect and will continue to do so as has been asked from those who are pro Brexit.
I have done this dance more than once, I can only offer my own experience and I am no business god so I can only assume the increased opportunities we are experiencing are repeated across the board.
The devaluation of the pound has made us significantly more competitive and this combined with a wider review of sourcing has been to ours and the wider uk manufacturing’s advantage.
You are a tiny little company, what happens to you is irrelevant to the large companies in the UK. So you think that the devaluation of the pound is a good thing for everyone?
The majority of employers in the uk are SME so don’t try to belittle me with your “tiny” comments
How about backing up your posts with some facts.
This is the problem with these threads for some reason you great big sexy “property developers “(jobing builder) and other “professionals “ hate anyone with any positives.
I interact with lots of other businesses and attend networking events through the FSB, so within my industry and within my area, midlands, the south east and the southwest I do have some knowledge gained through experience that sometimes I can’t help but impart.
But obviously you know better as your a builder from Manchester with “property” in London.
I am not a builder, I invest in property, I don’t employ anyone and have built my portfolio with my own money I am small scale compared to
some and Brexit will probably be financially beneficial to me .I am not naive enough to think it will benefit all those who have invested in property. How many people do you employ? would it be a fair to say that just because you are going to benefit from Brexit that this won’t be the case for everyone? Would it also be fair to say that Brexit will cause many businesses to struggle and close? And I will remind you again, we haven’t properly left , we are still tied to all the EUs trade deals . How can you be certain that you will prosper in the future when you don’t know what type of Brexit you will get? "Lol what does it matter how many ppl he employs? You sound jealous and bitter. Think you need to get over yourself ... yes funny you live in Manchester ... shouldn't you be in London managing your property 'empire' lol | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?"Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal. | |||
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"Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol " Wait until you have to live by Trump's rules ... Just saying | |||
"Foget how much money we pay in, name any trade deal where you pay millions so you can inport more than you export. And follow all their rules and fine you if you break them,only the EU could make up such a system lol Wait until you have to live by Trump's rules ... Just saying" You have got that absolutely right. It never ceases to amaze me how some people are so willing to demonstrate their own ignorance, so willfully and so regularly on social media. The statement you are quoting is a perfect example of such ignorance. It is the very caricature of simple, one-dimensional thinking. | |||
"Lol you're just a bad loser!! That's the thing - all the remainers shout about the problems of Brexit but the leavers are the silent majority because they understand the problems of the EU! " I think this sums up the UK right now. There are those who think they are "winners" because a slim majority of the population did exactly as they were told to do purely for the benefit or a handful of rich elite. The real winners are those who stand to make money from Brexit. Want to know who those people are. Look at who funded the leave campaign. The real losers. All of us. Just some of us are aware of it, and some people still believe in fairies and anything written on the side of a bus. | |||
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"Don't see that since the election ...my business and many others are flying now ...house prices went up 2.8% last month ...happy days as I'm a property developer...don't see any brexit related downturn at all ....or maybe I'm not a negative person" Not trying to blow holes in your argument but are you sure you aren't just profiting from the people who have been priced out of London moving to kent? Margate certainly has come up in the world because of that, and the Turner and Tracey Emin effect | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?
Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal. "You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use ! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?
Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.
You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use ! "We never paid the EU £350 million a week, Boris lied to you , just because it was written on the side of the bus doesn’t make it true. The benefits of staying in the EU are well documented, there is no point in me listing them here as you have been brainwashed . At least you are trying to refrain from petty name calling and insults , well done . I will now be ignoring your posts, I hope Brexit is all that you hoped for | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?
Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.
You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !
We never paid the EU £350 million a week, Boris lied to you , just because it was written on the side of the bus doesn’t make it true. The benefits of staying in the EU are well documented, there is no point in me listing them here as you have been brainwashed . At least you are trying to refrain from petty name calling and insults , well done . I will now be ignoring your posts, I hope Brexit is all that you hoped for
"Boris quoted it to get everyone to open there eyes to the EU that's why. Ok in reality it's more like £250 million per week and £9billion per year we never get back! Lol me been brainwashed?? I think you have ... thinking the EU is all so wonderful. .. . You do realise that the EU would want you to eventually adopt the Euro and become one state ... maybe that's something you'd like .. basicially your vote would have even less say ... haha you the one who is brainwashed!! | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?
Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.
You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !
We never paid the EU £350 million a week, Boris lied to you , just because it was written on the side of the bus doesn’t make it true. The benefits of staying in the EU are well documented, there is no point in me listing them here as you have been brainwashed . At least you are trying to refrain from petty name calling and insults , well done . I will now be ignoring your posts, I hope Brexit is all that you hoped for
Boris quoted it to get everyone to open there eyes to the EU that's why. Ok in reality it's more like £250 million per week and £9billion per year we never get back! Lol me been brainwashed?? I think you have ... thinking the EU is all so wonderful. .. . You do realise that the EU would want you to eventually adopt the Euro and become one state ... maybe that's something you'd like .. basicially your vote would have even less say ... haha you the one who is brainwashed!!"I have avoided responding to your consistently false, fake and truly ignorant posts on this thread. But really there comes a time when ignorance has to be called out. The U.K. has a permanent opt out from the Euro, from , from ever closer Union and from any proposed future (so called) EU Army. This is not fantasy - it is stone cold fact. If you object to regional funding of the EU on principle, then by default you must disagree with regional funding here in the U.K. too? Just because you choose not to read anything that does not tell the truth about the financial benefits of being in the EU doesn’t mean that there aren’t any. Economies of scale for example provide huge savings - not costs. Two very recent examples are the UK’s proposed withdrawal from EASA which will turn a £4 million per years cost into EASA into a £40 million direct cost to recreate it and still have to abide by EASA - ie ten times the cost and double the bureaucratic headaches. Then you can add the £2 billion a year for 50,000 extra customs officers and all of the attendant infrastructure. Those are just two direct examples that have been in the news recently. What about the trade benefits of being able to trade frictionless with our nearest neighbours instead of with countries on the other side of the planet? It was a previous Conservative Government that championed the Single Market because it would give the UK a manufacturing benefit - more trade and more production means more taxes and more credence for UK PLC. I get it that you like to fly the union flag from your erect cock and wave it at stupid foreigners but do yourself a favour and at least try to be factual in what you write. As it stands your posts are the very caricature of Mr Angry Brexiter - no facts, no thought, no detail and mainly lies picked up from biased sources. | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?
Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.
You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use ! "I guess pointing out to you that the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU and is a part of the Council of Europe is pointless, right? -Matt | |||
"I knew what I was voting for thanks very much! I voted for our democracy back! I think that's fair enough!! You though we were paying £350 million a week though? Never mind, you were only 8-10 billion out . Now, describe to me what getting our ‘democracy back’ means?? It means not being ruled by unelected bureaucrats in the EU! We can start making our own legislation and laws - not be determined by the European Court of Justice! Which law and legislation will we be able to make that we couldn’t whilst in the EU. It must be something very important and significant, don’t you agree Many - one example is the Common Agricultural Policy - this has been detrimental to the UK ever since it was introduced. Also the Fisheries policies - you do realise that being in the EU we could not control our own fishing waters? Maybe that's something you're too ignorant to know about. Is that the best you can do, fishing and farming . Can you explain how UK farming and fishing will benefit from leaving the EU? I am sure you must have other examples apart from fishing and farming , when do you think the NHS will start getting an extra £350 million a week?
Jesus you must be thick as anything - do you not read the news?
Fishing - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-publish-plan-for-an-independent-fisheries-policy
Farming - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/agriculture-bill-to-boost-environment-and-food-production
NHS - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/40-reasons-to-back-the-brexit-deal
Stop sending me links you have copied of the internet, for everyone you send I can find one that will say the opposite, try and explain it in your own words Owen, that way I will know you understand what your talking about. Give it a try , let’s be honest , you thought we paid the EU £350 million a week, so you have very little credibility
LOL I sent you those links so you can read for yourself as it seems you need educating!
You have already proved you don’t understand the links you send when you hilariously copied a link that contradicted your statement that the UK paid the EU £350 million a week
Yes just because I didn't quote it word for word - you're just a bad loser who can't be wrong - but if you look at those links you'll understand my points that I made. Funny how you asked for reasons then when I sent you the answers you moaned that I didn't explain it in my own words - well if I had done I bet you would have said you needed some evidence! Lol you're a retard. Maybe you should start reading more and spend less time on fab - might help you become more knowledgeable!
Ahh the classic loosing the argument so they start the abuse
How did I lose the argument?? Lol I just gave him the facts but he just didn't want to believe it - well its on the table - Brexit is a good thing for the UK - just have to get past the small heads of the remainers
Another insult, why have you resorted to petty name calling Owen?
I have said that because it seems to me you aren't very up to speed with the latest government proposals - you were asking what the benefits were so I gave you some information to help you understand.
Why do the new government proposal prove that Brexit will be beneficial? They are ‘proposals’ , do all ‘proposals’ go to plan? I hope you don’t think they do
Well if you read them it might help you realise that they will be a lot more beneficial than what the current system has!
I have read them, they are government proposals, you need to google the word ‘proposal ‘ , the results of these proposals aren’t known, we don’t even know if we are leaving the EU with a deal or not.
Yes they are proposals because that is what is going to happen next! It will be beneficial compared to the current state of affairs. The best bet would be no deal and on WTO rules.
Haha, you obviously don’t understand what a ‘proposal’ is then . So you want a no deal Brexit? What happens if we leave with a deal??
Yes my argument was that they are better than the current system so it doesn't matter if they are only a 'proposal'. You're getting all flustered over that some reason - I think it's because you're scared of it - well tough luck because Brexit is happening! Yes remember Theresa May even said a 'No deal is better than a bad deal'
You can’t be suggesting that Boris won’t get a ‘great ‘ deal, after all, it is what he has promised. Are these government ‘proposals’ based on a great deal? A bad deal? Or a no deal? Do you honestly think a no deal exit will be better than the current system ? I am guessing you have some links that will back this up
Yes no deal would be a lot better - maybe it would cause some disruption in the short term but it would be beneficial in the longer term by enabling the UK to set up it's own tariffs from WTO rules and ultimately lead to more competition and better trading deals with those countries outside the EU!! (Yes they do exist a world outside the EU) such as emerging economies in the Far East which are growing at a much faster rate than any EU country!!
I know you like a link, if you think a no deal Brexit is good for farmers have a read
https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/no-deal-catastrophic-for-british-farming/
Yep - typical remoaner scaremongering ... you don't have any positive news do you?
Check this link out ... showing what the government is intending to do https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/farming-fishing-and-animal-welfare/ ... I think that's a great deal better than the current EU system ... hopefully Brexit will also enable new law to be passed to ban the live export of animals ... or is that another issue you turn a blind eye towards ... or most likely ignorant about?
Owen, you have made a fool of yourself on here. You started off by claiming we send £350 a week to the EU , then hilariously post a link that proves this is incorrect . When you were questioned on this claim you started with insults and name calling . You then posted more links about what the government is ‘going to do’ and it’s ‘proposals’ that are all hypothetical and prove nothing . I then sent you a link from the national union of farmers which highlights that a no deal will be a ‘disaster ‘ for the farming industry which you dismiss as ‘scaremongering’ . I then asked you why we won’t be getting a ‘great ‘ deal as promised by Boris and his cabinet and you state that it would be better if we left with a no deal . I know you like copying links from the internet but can you find me any evidence from a ‘credible’ ‘independent’ source that shows the benefits of leaving the EU without a deal.
You are really something... you have a habit of belittling people don't you.. well we will see ... yes there is no such thing as a great deal ... no deal would have been better I. E.a hard brexit ... otherwise a deal just means a soft brexit which is know as BRINO .. and yes of course they are just proposals because that is the future aka it hasn't happened yet. Ok you tell me one good thing of remaiming in the EU ... was it the £9billion we give but is never returned? What about European Courts of Human Rights? Do you believe it's right that prisoners get the vote? Yes Boris quoted 350 million on side of the bus got us all thinking ... damn that's what we pay into the EU every week ... and what do we get out? Nothing that is of use !
I guess pointing out to you that the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU and is a part of the Council of Europe is pointless, right?
-Matt"Don’t confuse him with facts, he will start calling you names | |||
"Continue here, does he really believe it himself? It is hard to know but I think deep down he have his daubts about it that it probably wont be that it is better to be together then devided "He listens to who ever is donating the most money, he doesn't care what happens as he has a big salary and decent pension to look forward to. | |||
