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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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These things never stay with one topic anyway. So here's a thread for all to rant about whatever poltical stuff is bugging them. (Try to play nice though, eh?) |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Clement Atlee was born in 1883. That’s 137 years ago"
His birth date offends you? That bastard!
Well I guess I did say this thread could be about anything?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clement Atlee was born in 1883. That’s 137 years ago"
I know. Here is a stat for you , in the last 137 years there have been 3 men born who have won a GE for labour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clement Atlee was born in 1883. That’s 137 years ago"
Here is another stat. In the last 104 years only 4 men have been born who have won a GE for the conservatives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At least tories had a woman PM
Two in fact
Which labour have never had . Ever
How many Jews in the shadow cabinet????
How many Jews in the cabinet ???"
I don’t know? Can you tell me?
What was the last time a Jew was leader of the conservatives?
When was the last time a Jew was leader of the Labour Party? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone see the parallels between Sanders and Corbyn?
Absolutely. They're equally antisemitic. (ie not at all.)"
Give him a chance, you know he is obsessed with JC , his theory will be interesting  |
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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago
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The democrats are literally throwing this election away. A decent, centrist candidate would wipe the floor with Trump. Yet they're throwing in a loony leftie that nobody outside of the unemployed wants. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable."
Ah the old tactic of repeating a lie often enough in the hope people come to believe it. Goebbels was a proponent of such tactics.
Corbyn and Sanders were/are both electable. (Of course Corbyn failed. And Sanders might fail too. But they are/were both electable.)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable."
Yeah, why are you obsessed with JC, you seem to compare him with everything |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable.
Yeah, why are you obsessed with JC, you seem to compare him with everything "
It's all Corbyn's fault! Even when it's not! Everything is!!! Somehow!!! |
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"These things never stay with one topic anyway. So here's a thread for all to rant about whatever poltical stuff is bugging them. (Try to play nice though, eh?)"
Priti Patel being Home Secretary.
It's down to a level of political correctness that's allowed her to use her gender and ethnicity to deflect from the fact that she's nothing more than a seething mass of hatred, rage, entitlement, hypocrisy, lies, disloyalty, incompetence and stupidity. She's known as Priti Vacant (apologies to The Sex Pistols) - and not without good reason.
Today, she's telling senior police officers she'll be unapologetic about holding them to account if they fail to reduce crime, since she's giving them extra resources. Presumably as unapologetic as she was for her Government cutting 22,000 police officers in the first place.
A Government that refused to accept crime had gone up because there were fewer police officers; and yet, their solution to reducing crime? More police officers.
She's entirely unfit for her current job. The fact that people are deluded enough to vote her into Parliament is disappointing; but Boris giving her real power? That's just negligence. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"At least tories had a woman PM
Two in fact
Which labour have never had . Ever
How many Jews in the shadow cabinet????
How many Jews in the cabinet ???
I don’t know? Can you tell me?
What was the last time a Jew was leader of the conservatives?
When was the last time a Jew was leader of the Labour Party? "
I think the last and only Jewish PM was Disreali |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable.
Ah the old tactic of repeating a lie often enough in the hope people come to believe it. Goebbels was a proponent of such tactics.
Corbyn and Sanders were/are both electable. (Of course Corbyn failed. And Sanders might fail too. But they are/were both electable.)
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If they fail how can they be electable? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"These things never stay with one topic anyway. So here's a thread for all to rant about whatever poltical stuff is bugging them. (Try to play nice though, eh?)
Priti Patel being Home Secretary.
It's down to a level of political correctness that's allowed her to use her gender and ethnicity to deflect from the fact that she's nothing more than a seething mass of hatred, rage, entitlement, hypocrisy, lies, disloyalty, incompetence and stupidity. She's known as Priti Vacant (apologies to The Sex Pistols) - and not without good reason.
Today, she's telling senior police officers she'll be unapologetic about holding them to account if they fail to reduce crime, since she's giving them extra resources. Presumably as unapologetic as she was for her Government cutting 22,000 police officers in the first place.
A Government that refused to accept crime had gone up because there were fewer police officers; and yet, their solution to reducing crime? More police officers.
She's entirely unfit for her current job. The fact that people are deluded enough to vote her into Parliament is disappointing; but Boris giving her real power? That's just negligence."
She does seem awful. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At least tories had a woman PM
Two in fact
Which labour have never had . Ever
How many Jews in the shadow cabinet????
How many Jews in the cabinet ???
I don’t know? Can you tell me?
What was the last time a Jew was leader of the conservatives?
When was the last time a Jew was leader of the Labour Party? I think the last and only Jewish PM was Disreali"
How long ago was that? Do you know when labour last had a Jewish leader??  |
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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable.
Ah the old tactic of repeating a lie often enough in the hope people come to believe it. Goebbels was a proponent of such tactics.
Corbyn and Sanders were/are both electable. (Of course Corbyn failed. And Sanders might fail too. But they are/were both electable.)
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Corbyn was never electable. I've said it for years. He's not what people want.
Sanders is a very similar flavour, in a very similar country.
Time will tell if I'm right.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable.
Ah the old tactic of repeating a lie often enough in the hope people come to believe it. Goebbels was a proponent of such tactics.
Corbyn and Sanders were/are both electable. (Of course Corbyn failed. And Sanders might fail too. But they are/were both electable.)
Corbyn was never electable. I've said it for years. He's not what people want.
Sanders is a very similar flavour, in a very similar country.
Time will tell if I'm right.
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When are you going to get over JC? Will you be still talking about him 10 years? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I was more getting at the parallel of them both being totally unelectable.
Ah the old tactic of repeating a lie often enough in the hope people come to believe it. Goebbels was a proponent of such tactics.
Corbyn and Sanders were/are both electable. (Of course Corbyn failed. And Sanders might fail too. But they are/were both electable.)
Corbyn was never electable. I've said it for years. He's not what people want.
Sanders is a very similar flavour, in a very similar country.
Time will tell if I'm right.
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Yup, everything is Corbyn's fault. He gets around, doesn't he?
Corbyn was electable. However he wasn't elected. The 2 things are different. Do you even understand that?
A lot of people seemed to like him and his policies. His main problem was that he was smeared and ranted about in the right wing press for years. And he actually seemed to be sincere. What a foolish mistake that proved to be. Maybe he should have just lied a hell of a lot more, like the Tories.
Sanders is also electable. Though he may not be elected. He seems to have a lot of supporters. If he gets anywhere near winning, I suspect he'll suffer the sort of smears and lies in the right wing press that Corbyn did.
Will Sanders win? I have no idea. The rich and the status quo seem desperate to stop such people gaining power. It's almost as if they're afraid they might end up having to actually pay their taxes.
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Corbyn was as electable as a dead hedgehog . Jeez- everyone in the country knew that. Even die hard , never ever ever ever voted Tory former labour voters knew that . Accepted if you knew nothing about politics you might have given him a chance. Just like he voted against his party 400 odd times as a back bencher against the former labour leadership he detested, his own MPs left his shadow cabinet in droves, similarly detested him as the most unpopular labour Leader ever recorded . His own MPs knew he would drag labour down and that’s precisely what happened . Isn’t it?. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Corbyn was as electable as a dead hedgehog . Jeez- everyone in the country knew that. Even die hard , never ever ever ever voted Tory former labour voters knew that . Accepted if you knew nothing about politics you might have given him a chance. Just like he voted against his party 400 odd times as a back bencher against the former labour leadership he detested, his own MPs left his shadow cabinet in droves, similarly detested him as the most unpopular labour Leader ever recorded . His own MPs knew he would drag labour down and that’s precisely what happened . Isn’t it?."
Back to your old ways? Jeeeeeeez? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Corbyn was as electable as a dead hedgehog . Jeez- everyone in the country knew that. Even die hard , never ever ever ever voted Tory former labour voters knew that . Accepted if you knew nothing about politics you might have given him a chance. Just like he voted against his party 400 odd times as a back bencher against the former labour leadership he detested, his own MPs left his shadow cabinet in droves, similarly detested him as the most unpopular labour Leader ever recorded . His own MPs knew he would drag labour down and that’s precisely what happened . Isn’t it?.
Back to your old ways? Jeeeeeeez? "
The only problem with your support of him is the fact that May made such a mess of delivering brexit and when she quit was replaced by someone that many here ridicule as being a buffoon and he still couldnt win the election when a half decent leader would have walked it by a huge margin |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Corbyn was as electable as a dead hedgehog . Jeez- everyone in the country knew that. Even die hard , never ever ever ever voted Tory former labour voters knew that . Accepted if you knew nothing about politics you might have given him a chance. Just like he voted against his party 400 odd times as a back bencher against the former labour leadership he detested, his own MPs left his shadow cabinet in droves, similarly detested him as the most unpopular labour Leader ever recorded . His own MPs knew he would drag labour down and that’s precisely what happened . Isn’t it?.
Back to your old ways? Jeeeeeeez?
The only problem with your support of him is the fact that May made such a mess of delivering brexit and when she quit was replaced by someone that many here ridicule as being a buffoon and he still couldnt win the election when a half decent leader would have walked it by a huge margin"
JC wouldn’t have made a good PM the majority of people will accept that , what confuses me is that certain people on here are obsessed with him. I am glad you recognise that Boris only won because JC was the opposition |
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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago
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"I am glad you recognise that Boris only won because JC was the opposition "
I absolutely guarantee Boris will win against the next Labour leader too.
People like him, and his politics.
Absolutely guarantee it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am glad you recognise that Boris only won because JC was the opposition
I absolutely guarantee Boris will win against the next Labour leader too.
People like him, and his politics.
Absolutely guarantee it."
His politics are as changeable as his underwear. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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JC wouldn’t have made a good PM the majority of people will accept that , what confuses me is that certain people on here are obsessed with him. I am glad you recognise that Boris only won because JC was the opposition "
The test will be at the next election, remember he got reelected as mayor in a labour city so cant have been that bad. |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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"The democrats are literally throwing this election away. A decent, centrist candidate would wipe the floor with Trump. Yet they're throwing in a loony leftie that nobody outside of the unemployed wants."
The Democrats put a centrist (by US standards) up against Trump last time round and Hillary lost - why should his time be any different?
The US economy is doing pretty well - growth, wages, and employment have continued on the upward trajectory that Trump inherited from Obama, and he's about to borrow an additional half a trillion a year to boost the economy even further.
While Trump has done a pretty dramatic 180 on his promise to stand up to the status quo, his supporters have airbrushed that from their memories and still appear to be motivated to actually show up to the polling booth on election day.
So he'll be tough to beat whoever the Dems put up against him - but a dull establishment middle of the roader hasn't got a hope in hell.
Bernie polls very well against him - and his policies poll incredibly well.
He's probably the dems best bet.
This is why people can only attack him on an emotional basis rather that a factual one - using terms like loony.
But the facts don't care about the feels. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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JC wouldn’t have made a good PM the majority of people will accept that , what confuses me is that certain people on here are obsessed with him. I am glad you recognise that Boris only won because JC was the opposition
The test will be at the next election, remember he got reelected as mayor in a labour city so cant have been that bad."
So did Ken Livingston and Sadiq Kahn? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"thing with bernie is same prob with corbyn he has his fans who love hime but is a pretty hard sell to the average voter and there the one who win you elections not your supporters"
I agree, sanders won’t be able to sway the ‘undecided’ voters |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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"thing with bernie is same prob with corbyn he has his fans who love hime but is a pretty hard sell to the average voter and there the one who win you elections not your supporters"
Conventional wisdom says so - but the polling data said otherwise.
At the last election, Bernie polled better against Trump than Clinton did - especially in the crucial blue collar swing states which Hillary lost and cost her the presidency.
Obviously it's largely academic because Bernie didn't stand so we will never know how it would have turned out, but it does show that he has an appeal which goes way beyond a small clique of lefties. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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that if he makes it to november he looks like he abut to keel over everytime he gets excited personaly think it gona be trump again dont forget its not actualy the peeps who elect them the final say is the establishment and im guessing they dont like bernie.my guess donald for another term |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am glad you recognise that Boris only won because JC was the opposition
I absolutely guarantee Boris will win against the next Labour leader too.
People like him, and his politics.
Absolutely guarantee it.
His politics are as changeable as his underwear. "
Be fair. We don't know if he changes his underwear as often as his politics. |
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