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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is " He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. " Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then.  | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then. "He just won a Brit award, hardly Z list . | |||
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"i stopped listening years ago when celebritys start lecturing.unless there entertaining me i dont wana hear them .what they have to say poltically or on any other subject im not intrested id rather listen to an expert than someone who has jumped on whatever bandwagon is rolling through this week" Do you agree with what he said though? | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is " He is entitled to his opinion as are we ? The difference is , he has just won a Brit award and has thousands of fans and in the public eye we are on a sex site forum  | |||
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"Dave calls someone he disagrees with "racist" How utterly unique and simply stunningly brave. " Boris , has in the past said some racist and homophobic things, that is a fact . I don't know if he is racist or not but why did he make those racist comments? | |||
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"Well, that didn’t take long..." This thread will bring a few out of the woodwork , | |||
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" I don't know if he is racist or not" There you go, you answered your own question. Now stop race baiting and dog whistling. | |||
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" I don't know if he is racist or not There you go, you answered your own question. Now stop race baiting and dog whistling. Why did he make racist comments then? " | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. " I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist  | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist "Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ? | |||
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"I wasn't referring to Boris." Who are you referring to then? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ? "Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ? | |||
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"Celeberities spouting opinions at awards shows reminds me of an Austrian born Queen of france giving dietary advice...(props if you get the referance)" They are all entitled to their opinions? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
"Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? | |||
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"Celeberities spouting opinions at awards shows reminds me of an Austrian born Queen of france giving dietary advice...(props if you get the referance)" On the bright side look at the Oscars ! Losing millions of viewers every year due to the insufferable virtue signalling. The Brit awards will be the same especially now we have stormzy (privileged multi millionaire created in england) calling everyone a racist lol The memes make themselves | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? "Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.  | |||
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"Celeberities spouting opinions at awards shows reminds me of an Austrian born Queen of france giving dietary advice...(props if you get the referance) They are all entitled to their opinions? " Of course they are , but people are begining to wake up to the vision of the self annointed preaching..the schtik is getting old..its like "hey i am really good and renowned for stringing together catchy songs have a look at my 5 economic year plan" | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago. "And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist | |||
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"Celeberities spouting opinions at awards shows reminds me of an Austrian born Queen of france giving dietary advice...(props if you get the referance) They are all entitled to their opinions? Of course they are , but people are begining to wake up to the vision of the self annointed preaching..the schtik is getting old..its like "hey i am really good and renowned for stringing together catchy songs have a look at my 5 economic year plan" " You have a point, we don’t have to listen to or agree with their opinions however they are seen by far more people than anything we believe | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist "i have not made any comment on the rapper so nothing to get over you seem a bit wired.  | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? "I dont care what people say. I dont care about hurty words. I lived in California for years , and got called more names by blacks and Hispanics that you could ever think. I'm still here, I didnt cry. Once again mr dog whistle and to make it clear. I don't think hes a racist and I dont care what he said. | |||
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"Celeberities spouting opinions at awards shows reminds me of an Austrian born Queen of france giving dietary advice...(props if you get the referance) They are all entitled to their opinions? Of course they are , but people are begining to wake up to the vision of the self annointed preaching..the schtik is getting old..its like "hey i am really good and renowned for stringing together catchy songs have a look at my 5 economic year plan" You have a point, we don’t have to listen to or agree with their opinions however they are seen by far more people than anything we believe " Totally , and listen i am not saying that racism is cool and it should be called out..but lets be honest here the woke brigade are making far more racists than boris ever did..the patronising and pandering to anyone just because the colour of thier skin is bolox but this power dynamic is a to way street and woke celeberities lobbing in virtious opinions are actually doing real damage | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist i have not made any comment on the rapper so nothing to get over you seem a bit wired. "Did you bother reading the OP | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist i have not made any comment on the rapper so nothing to get over you seem a bit wired.
Did you bother reading the OP "Yes and chose not to comment on it which you failed to notice and just came out with a stupid remark on something i never said. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist i have not made any comment on the rapper so nothing to get over you seem a bit wired.
Did you bother reading the OP Yes and chose not to comment on it which you failed to notice and just came out with a stupid remark on something i never said. "Ah, my apologies, I was under the impression we were taking about the Rapper Dave’s song about Boris being a racist. I must be commentating in the wrong thread | |||
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"Celeberities spouting opinions at awards shows reminds me of an Austrian born Queen of france giving dietary advice...(props if you get the referance) They are all entitled to their opinions? Of course they are , but people are begining to wake up to the vision of the self annointed preaching..the schtik is getting old..its like "hey i am really good and renowned for stringing together catchy songs have a look at my 5 economic year plan" You have a point, we don’t have to listen to or agree with their opinions however they are seen by far more people than anything we believe Totally , and listen i am not saying that racism is cool and it should be called out..but lets be honest here the woke brigade are making far more racists than boris ever did..the patronising and pandering to anyone just because the colour of thier skin is bolox but this power dynamic is a to way street and woke celeberities lobbing in virtious opinions are actually doing real damage " Who are the ‘woke brigade’ and what racists comments have they made | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist i have not made any comment on the rapper so nothing to get over you seem a bit wired.
Did you bother reading the OP Yes and chose not to comment on it which you failed to notice and just came out with a stupid remark on something i never said.
Ah, my apologies, I was under the impression we were taking about the Rapper Dave’s song about Boris being a racist. I must be commentating in the wrong thread "No problem i understand you must think everything is going against you at the moment what with the big tory win and uk finally leaving the eu. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
And? Why dont you get over the fact a Rapper , in front of millions of people, making headline news has called Boris a racist i have not made any comment on the rapper so nothing to get over you seem a bit wired.
Did you bother reading the OP Yes and chose not to comment on it which you failed to notice and just came out with a stupid remark on something i never said.
Ah, my apologies, I was under the impression we were taking about the Rapper Dave’s song about Boris being a racist. I must be commentating in the wrong thread No problem i understand you must think everything is going against you at the moment what with the big tory win and uk finally leaving the eu."Going against me? I didn’t vote in the last election but I did vote remain in the referendum. A Tory government and Brexit are both good for me personally and I am sure you agree , good for the country ? So it is a win win situation, I am not sure how this is relevant to the thread but thanks for your input | |||
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"i stopped listening years ago when celebritys start lecturing.unless there entertaining me i dont wana hear them .what they have to say poltically or on any other subject im not intrested id rather listen to an expert than someone who has jumped on whatever bandwagon is rolling through this week Do you agree with what he said though? " no i dont agree with what he said.is boris a prick yes he is do i belive he is a racist no i dont.he just a posh arsehole who insults people no matter what colour religion or sexualty they are.he more than capable of insulting a whole british city just as much as someone who wears a head scarf. so no not a racist fucking idiot yea without a doubt | |||
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"It is inarguable that Johnson has said racist things. Those words are on the record. It's bizarre to me that some people fall over themselves to try and defend him in this area."  | |||
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"Dave, isn't that a channel on free view? As for rappers I haven't a clue who this is, but I guess he has a fan base so anyone liking his stuff will take anything said as 'the truth'. Believe what you like, if Boris is being racist I look forward to reading all about the court case here in glorious technicolour. Dig deep enough you find dirt on everyone, the trouble is there's a lot around who believe they are the bees knees and through their virtue, truly believe they are absolute perfection and single out criticism of every imperfection, particularly of people that they don't like or don't fit in with their ideology. " He is the PM, he should get more scrutiny than any other person in the country. You either agree with what Boris has said about black people or you don’t? Time to make up your mind ? | |||
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"Dave, isn't that a channel on free view? As for rappers I haven't a clue who this is, but I guess he has a fan base so anyone liking his stuff will take anything said as 'the truth'. Believe what you like, if Boris is being racist I look forward to reading all about the court case here in glorious technicolour. Dig deep enough you find dirt on everyone, the trouble is there's a lot around who believe they are the bees knees and through their virtue, truly believe they are absolute perfection and single out criticism of every imperfection, particularly of people that they don't like or don't fit in with their ideology. He is the PM, he should get more scrutiny than any other person in the country. You either agree with what Boris has said about black people or you don’t? Time to make up your mind ? " It is interesting that there are always people who try to twist away from answering this. Because they don't want to come out and say they support saying racist things. | |||
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"And it's interesting to see all the people that careful word questions so that you cannot help but either agree or be condemned as a racist. Do I know if Boris is racist, no, and neither do you." Ironically, you're twisting away from answering. It was a simple question. Do you agree with what Johnson said about black people? Or muslims, for that matter? | |||
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"And it's interesting to see all the people that careful word questions so that you cannot help but either agree or be condemned as a racist. Do I know if Boris is racist, no, and neither do you." It would be great if you could just answer the question ? | |||
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"And it's interesting to see all the people that careful word questions so that you cannot help but either agree or be condemned as a racist. Do I know if Boris is racist, no, and neither do you. It would be great if you could just answer the question ? "This is very strange, isn't it? Instead of blaming the person who said or did bad things, some people blame those who raise the issue. I'm very confused. Is it now somehow our fault Johnson said racist things?  | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified." There's a thing called google. I hear you can look things up on it. Including things Johnson has said in the past. | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified." It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.” | |||
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"Yep, the internet said it therefore it's all true. No news institution has ever been told off or sued for mid information or setting up stings. Pick a public figure of your choice, there will be something bad out there about them. " Actually Johnson said the racist things. The internet just quoted his own words... | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified. It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.”" . Tony Blair leaving England has no race connotations in the context you have presented. The other particular word you used originally relates to a term used by West Indians to refer to their babies, it then became a racial slur. Did he insult black people or refer to crowds of flag waving children? | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified. It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.”. Tony Blair leaving England has no race connotations in the context you have presented. The other particular word you used originally relates to a term used by West Indians to refer to their babies, it then became a racial slur. Did he insult black people or refer to crowds of flag waving children?" Does it matter as you said yourself it became a racial slur? What about comparing Muslim women to letterboxes? Or describing black peoples watermelon smiles? | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified. It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.”. Tony Blair leaving England has no race connotations in the context you have presented. The other particular word you used originally relates to a term used by West Indians to refer to their babies, it then became a racial slur. Did he insult black people or refer to crowds of flag waving children?" I am going to make this really simple? Do you think those comments are acceptable? Yes or no? | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified. It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.”. Tony Blair leaving England has no race connotations in the context you have presented. The other particular word you used originally relates to a term used by West Indians to refer to their babies, it then became a racial slur. Did he insult black people or refer to crowds of flag waving children? I am going to make this really simple? Do you think those comments are acceptable? Yes or no? " And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice. | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. " I notice you’ve not addressed the other 2 examples I gave I assume you think I they are also acceptable and I don’t understand your point about using the word gay as that isn’t a derogatory term either way | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. " So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then. | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified. It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.”. Tony Blair leaving England has no race connotations in the context you have presented. The other particular word you used originally relates to a term used by West Indians to refer to their babies, it then became a racial slur. Did he insult black people or refer to crowds of flag waving children? I am going to make this really simple? Do you think those comments are acceptable? Yes or no? And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice." Your reluctance to answer a very easy questions leads me to 2 conclusions. You don’t understand the question or you are too scared to give an answer. Would you like me to give you some more examples of the way Boris talks about people? | |||
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"You "assume" again. Thus proving nothing " Ok I’ll ask you directly do you think comparing Muslim women to letterboxes is acceptable? Do you think talking about black peoples watermelon smiles is acceptable? Why would pensioners be thought of as homophobes for using the word gay to mean happy? | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then. "You cannot retrospectively apply moral standards, otherwise having the name slut in your username could get you in a lot of trouble. If you can find me another time period where tank topped bum boys had a different meaning to now, I'll comment on whether it's always been offensive or not. | |||
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"I'm not "twisting" away from answering. I've never met Boris and currently only have reports of what he's said from random people on a sex site, out of context and unverified. It is very easy to verify what we wrote about black peoples, but I shall save you the time Here is what he said about Tony Blair visiting Africa ‘What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.”. Tony Blair leaving England has no race connotations in the context you have presented. The other particular word you used originally relates to a term used by West Indians to refer to their babies, it then became a racial slur. Did he insult black people or refer to crowds of flag waving children? I am going to make this really simple? Do you think those comments are acceptable? Yes or no? And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice. Your reluctance to answer a very easy questions leads me to 2 conclusions. You don’t understand the question or you are too scared to give an answer. Would you like me to give you some more examples of the way Boris talks about people? " Then you conclude wrong. I understand perfectly what you are trying to do, I am also far from scared. You are entitled to ask the question, but you are not entitled to an answer. | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then.
You cannot retrospectively apply moral standards, otherwise having the name slut in your username could get you in a lot of trouble. If you can find me another time period where tank topped bum boys had a different meaning to now, I'll comment on whether it's always been offensive or not."Do you honestly believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable term in 1998? A happy, harmless thing to publicly call gay men in 1998? Wow. | |||
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"You "assume" again. Thus proving nothing Ok I’ll ask you directly do you think comparing Muslim women to letterboxes is acceptable? Do you think talking about black peoples watermelon smiles is acceptable? Why would pensioners be thought of as homophobes for using the word gay to mean happy? " Then I will answer directly Yes if they are painted red, standing dead still and having post put in their mouths, it has nothing to do with their religion then. No black peoples watermelon smiles is not acceptable if you use it as a racial insult Old people have been called homophobes for pointing out someone looked gay, they meant happy, someone else took it as them being insulting. Again, all about context. | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then.
You cannot retrospectively apply moral standards, otherwise having the name slut in your username could get you in a lot of trouble. If you can find me another time period where tank topped bum boys had a different meaning to now, I'll comment on whether it's always been offensive or not.
Do you honestly believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable term in 1998? A happy, harmless thing to publicly call gay men in 1998? Wow."Think you want to read that again, before you do something stupid and jump to a totally false conclusion about what I said. | |||
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"You "assume" again. Thus proving nothing Ok I’ll ask you directly do you think comparing Muslim women to letterboxes is acceptable? Do you think talking about black peoples watermelon smiles is acceptable? Why would pensioners be thought of as homophobes for using the word gay to mean happy? Then I will answer directly Yes if they are painted red, standing dead still and having post put in their mouths, it has nothing to do with their religion then. No black peoples watermelon smiles is not acceptable if you use it as a racial insult Old people have been called homophobes for pointing out someone looked gay, they meant happy, someone else took it as them being insulting. Again, all about context. " When you are in a hole stop digging | |||
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"You "assume" again. Thus proving nothing Ok I’ll ask you directly do you think comparing Muslim women to letterboxes is acceptable? Do you think talking about black peoples watermelon smiles is acceptable? Why would pensioners be thought of as homophobes for using the word gay to mean happy? Then I will answer directly Yes if they are painted red, standing dead still and having post put in their mouths, it has nothing to do with their religion then. No black peoples watermelon smiles is not acceptable if you use it as a racial insult Old people have been called homophobes for pointing out someone looked gay, they meant happy, someone else took it as them being insulting. Again, all about context. When you are in a hole stop digging "when I'm in one, I'll let you know. | |||
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"You "assume" again. Thus proving nothing Ok I’ll ask you directly do you think comparing Muslim women to letterboxes is acceptable? Do you think talking about black peoples watermelon smiles is acceptable? Why would pensioners be thought of as homophobes for using the word gay to mean happy? Then I will answer directly Yes if they are painted red, standing dead still and having post put in their mouths, it has nothing to do with their religion then. No black peoples watermelon smiles is not acceptable if you use it as a racial insult Old people have been called homophobes for pointing out someone looked gay, they meant happy, someone else took it as them being insulting. Again, all about context. " Have you seen many Muslim women painted red standing still and having post put in their mouths? I haven’t seen any so why would anybody use this comparison. In what other way would watermelon smile be used? Fair enough I’ve never heard of this happening but always happy to stand corrected | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then.
You cannot retrospectively apply moral standards, otherwise having the name slut in your username could get you in a lot of trouble. If you can find me another time period where tank topped bum boys had a different meaning to now, I'll comment on whether it's always been offensive or not.
Do you honestly believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable term in 1998? A happy, harmless thing to publicly call gay men in 1998? Wow.
Think you want to read that again, before you do something stupid and jump to a totally false conclusion about what I said."I just asked a simple question. Do you believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable thing to call gay men in 1998? I was alive back then. I don't remember people happily calling gay men that. | |||
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" And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice." so the answer isn't "no" then...... 
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"You "assume" again. Thus proving nothing Ok I’ll ask you directly do you think comparing Muslim women to letterboxes is acceptable? Do you think talking about black peoples watermelon smiles is acceptable? Why would pensioners be thought of as homophobes for using the word gay to mean happy? Then I will answer directly Yes if they are painted red, standing dead still and having post put in their mouths, it has nothing to do with their religion then. No black peoples watermelon smiles is not acceptable if you use it as a racial insult Old people have been called homophobes for pointing out someone looked gay, they meant happy, someone else took it as them being insulting. Again, all about context. When you are in a hole stop digging when I'm in one, I'll let you know."Sure, I am a fair-minded person, I will help you out if you like | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then.
You cannot retrospectively apply moral standards, otherwise having the name slut in your username could get you in a lot of trouble. If you can find me another time period where tank topped bum boys had a different meaning to now, I'll comment on whether it's always been offensive or not.
Do you honestly believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable term in 1998? A happy, harmless thing to publicly call gay men in 1998? Wow.
Think you want to read that again, before you do something stupid and jump to a totally false conclusion about what I said.
I just asked a simple question. Do you believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable thing to call gay men in 1998? I was alive back then. I don't remember people happily calling gay men that."If there is no pre 1998 record of it having a different meaning then no it's not acceptable. I was pointing out about not retrospectively applying a meaning, you tried to make out I was somehow agreeing with it based on current context. | |||
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" And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice. so the answer isn't "no" then......
because if you didn't agree with him... the simple answer would be..... no! "Keep telling me what I think. You obviously know better than I do. | |||
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"Of course it matters! One is harmless albeit a somewhat old fashioned phrase, the other is disgusting. But it's ok to assume the worst as use it as a stick to beat someone that you have never met and probably never will. Quick, let's go after all the pensioners as well that may have used the term gay in their childhood to mean happy, but not the meaning has changed they must all be homophobes. So any bad things Johnson said are forgivable as they were before such terms were offensive? He referred to tank-topped bum boys in 1998. But I'm sure that was just the usual term for gay men back then.
You cannot retrospectively apply moral standards, otherwise having the name slut in your username could get you in a lot of trouble. If you can find me another time period where tank topped bum boys had a different meaning to now, I'll comment on whether it's always been offensive or not.
Do you honestly believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable term in 1998? A happy, harmless thing to publicly call gay men in 1998? Wow.
Think you want to read that again, before you do something stupid and jump to a totally false conclusion about what I said.
I just asked a simple question. Do you believe "tank-topped bum boys" was an acceptable thing to call gay men in 1998? I was alive back then. I don't remember people happily calling gay men that.
If there is no pre 1998 record of it having a different meaning then no it's not acceptable. I was pointing out about not retrospectively applying a meaning, you tried to make out I was somehow agreeing with it based on current context."I wasn't trying to make out anything. All this back and forth is simply because you seem unwilling to give straight answers to simple questions. I guess you sort of answered that one at least. Eventually... | |||
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" And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice. so the answer isn't "no" then......
because if you didn't agree with him... the simple answer would be..... no!
Keep telling me what I think. You obviously know better than I do."It was a binary question that required a binary answer? I will ask again, yes or no in ‘your opinion ‘ Are the comments made by Boris about Africans being ‘piccaninnies’ and have ‘water melon smiles’ acceptable? | |||
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" And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice. so the answer isn't "no" then......
because if you didn't agree with him... the simple answer would be..... no!
Keep telling me what I think. You obviously know better than I do.
It was a binary question that required a binary answer? I will ask again, yes or no in ‘your opinion ‘ Are the comments made by Boris about Africans being ‘piccaninnies’ and have ‘water melon smiles’ acceptable? "The watermelon smiles thing I have answered, not that it was in your original question. As for piccaninnies, I addressed that in the post refering to context. | |||
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" And I'm going to make it really simple. I will not answer your binary choice. so the answer isn't "no" then......
because if you didn't agree with him... the simple answer would be..... no!
Keep telling me what I think. You obviously know better than I do.
It was a binary question that required a binary answer? I will ask again, yes or no in ‘your opinion ‘ Are the comments made by Boris about Africans being ‘piccaninnies’ and have ‘water melon smiles’ acceptable?
The watermelon smiles thing I have answered, not that it was in your original question. As for piccaninnies, I addressed that in the post refering to context. "I think you miss read my question? , anyway, you won’t answer so we will leave it there . | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then.
He just won a Brit award, hardly Z list . "yes he did then at the end of his speech said something about his friends inside holding it down lol yep can’t do a speech without a mention of ya mates doing time lol what a roll model | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then.
He just won a Brit award, hardly Z list . yes he did then at the end of his speech said something about his friends inside holding it down lol yep can’t do a speech without a mention of ya mates doing time lol what a roll model "He is an actor, musician, record producer , song writer, Brit award winner, he has had UK no 1 songs and albums, pretty good for a 21 year old. Can you list your achievements at that age ? | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then.
He just won a Brit award, hardly Z list . yes he did then at the end of his speech said something about his friends inside holding it down lol yep can’t do a speech without a mention of ya mates doing time lol what a roll model
He is an actor, musician, record producer , song writer, Brit award winner, he has had UK no 1 songs and albums, pretty good for a 21 year old. Can you list your achievements at that age ? "yes I can none at all But come on a shout out to his buddies in jail ffs really lol | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then.
He just won a Brit award, hardly Z list . yes he did then at the end of his speech said something about his friends inside holding it down lol yep can’t do a speech without a mention of ya mates doing time lol what a roll model
He is an actor, musician, record producer , song writer, Brit award winner, he has had UK no 1 songs and albums, pretty good for a 21 year old. Can you list your achievements at that age ? yes I can none at all But come on a shout out to his buddies in jail ffs really lol"Probably not his wisest move, it might have been because he was referring to Jack Merrit , he was the man who worked to help rehabilitate prisoners and was killed on London Bridge | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander." So that comment makes you a racist | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander. So that comment makes you a racist " Why does it? | |||
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"actually dave talked a lot more than just boris johnson last night... he talked about jack merritt because they had met thru the charity that jack was working for and had become friends he talked about the ongoing lack of help from government for windrush victims, lack of help and support for for grenfell victims (that was the bit that hit home for me because i was dealing yesterday with a sensitive enquiry for a grenfell survivor) how meghan is treated by the press a lot differently to kate.... he actually talked a lot of sense in the wider context of the points he was making...... if the government and no.10 are hiring people who believe in eugenics.... then i don't think it is the hardest leap to make to say they wouldn't employ these people if the PM or people close to him didn't share some of the same opinions! so if someone is telling me their isn't an amount of "white priviledge" in UK society i would laugh......" And like clockwork,the Fabio gaslighting "white privilege" myth raises its ugly head once again. Well done Fabio... well done | |||
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"Corbyn the Jew Hater and his blackshirt supporters are still under investigation by the EHRC I believe
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones "Interestingly, I can't find any quotes or writings by Corbyn that are racist. It's almost as if they don't exist. But there are racist/homophoic/sexist quotes on record by Johnson. | |||
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"Corbyn the Jew Hater and his blackshirt supporters are still under investigation by the EHRC I believe
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones "And yet again, we have someone trying to defend Boris by attacking Corbyn. Let’s , for arguments sake , say that Corbyn is a racist , homophobic. Islamaphobic , misogynist that hates all Jews more than Hitler? Does that make what Boris has said acceptable? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago. "Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday."Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant? "Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!! | |||
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"Corbyn the Jew Hater and his blackshirt supporters are still under investigation by the EHRC I believe
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
And yet again, we have someone trying to defend Boris by attacking Corbyn. Let’s , for arguments sake , say that Corbyn is a racist , homophobic. Islamaphobic , misogynist that hates all Jews more than Hitler? Does that make what Boris has said acceptable? "Haha, I'm certainly no fan of Johnson. Corbyn deserves to be attacked for his leadership of an antisemitic and racist party. Support his party and you're supporting everything that created the Nazi party. Most are just too blind to see it, except of course, the Jewish race but who ever listens to us? Keep up the blind hatred guys | |||
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"Corbyn the Jew Hater and his blackshirt supporters are still under investigation by the EHRC I believe
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
And yet again, we have someone trying to defend Boris by attacking Corbyn. Let’s , for arguments sake , say that Corbyn is a racist , homophobic. Islamaphobic , misogynist that hates all Jews more than Hitler? Does that make what Boris has said acceptable?
Haha, I'm certainly no fan of Johnson. Corbyn deserves to be attacked for his leadership of an antisemitic and racist party. Support his party and you're supporting everything that created the Nazi party. Most are just too blind to see it, except of course, the Jewish race but who ever listens to us? Keep up the blind hatred guys "This thread is about Boris? Why are you talking about Corbyn again? Shall we pretend , for arguments sake that Corbyn and the Labour Party are as anti Semitic as the Nazis? Then we can stay on track and talk about Boris instead? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!"What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ? "1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on. "Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander. So that comment makes you a racist " Because its racist against a white British person | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander." So are you saying ALL Englanders are Racist ? | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander. So that comment makes you a racist Because its racist against a white British person" No it isn’t? | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander. So are you saying ALL Englanders are Racist ? "No, I presume he is saying all ‘little Englanders’ are racist | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work "I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things. "I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right? "I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed. "I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed. "I think you are right there clem i can remember my dad would never buy anything from japan for what they did to my uncle. | |||
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"Im pretty sure that some things people say today will be in another 20-30 years considered either racist,sexist,ageist or homophobic as there are always people looking to be offended and change things.After all it was only in 2001 that robinsons dropped the gollywog a few years before it wasn't considered offensive.Rupert the bear visited coon island and met a black girl who he couldn't understand, in its day that wasn't considered offensive either and read to kids in primary school things change attitudes and language changes too,you cannot be judged today on what was normal in the past.How would you like your parents to be labeled child abusers in another 10 years time because they smacked you for being naughty when you were young?" Yeah, maybe you could start a petition, bring back all those offensive things? What terms or objects that have been banned that you would like to return ? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though "There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions. | |||
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"Im pretty sure that some things people say today will be in another 20-30 years considered either racist,sexist,ageist or homophobic as there are always people looking to be offended and change things.After all it was only in 2001 that robinsons dropped the gollywog a few years before it wasn't considered offensive.Rupert the bear visited coon island and met a black girl who he couldn't understand, in its day that wasn't considered offensive either and read to kids in primary school things change attitudes and language changes too,you cannot be judged today on what was normal in the past.How would you like your parents to be labeled child abusers in another 10 years time because they smacked you for being naughty when you were young? Yeah, maybe you could start a petition, bring back all those offensive things? What terms or objects that have been banned that you would like to return ? " None, you seem incapable of understanding the point which just goes to prove whatever you say some people will take offense. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions. "Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country? | |||
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"Im pretty sure that some things people say today will be in another 20-30 years considered either racist,sexist,ageist or homophobic as there are always people looking to be offended and change things.After all it was only in 2001 that robinsons dropped the gollywog a few years before it wasn't considered offensive.Rupert the bear visited coon island and met a black girl who he couldn't understand, in its day that wasn't considered offensive either and read to kids in primary school things change attitudes and language changes too,you cannot be judged today on what was normal in the past.How would you like your parents to be labeled child abusers in another 10 years time because they smacked you for being naughty when you were young? Yeah, maybe you could start a petition, bring back all those offensive things? What terms or objects that have been banned that you would like to return ? None, you seem incapable of understanding the point which just goes to prove whatever you say some people will take offense." Why were they banned? And why shouldn’t they have been banned? I am genuinely interested to know the answer? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country? "Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?"Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on? "Once it's over, yes. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on?
Once it's over, yes. "Yes, forget it ever happened? Never mention it again? I suppose we can forget 9/11 in 10 years? And the Irish troubles soon? I like this idea of yours | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on?
Once it's over, yes.
Yes, forget it ever happened? Never mention it again? I suppose we can forget 9/11 in 10 years? And the Irish troubles soon? I like this idea of yours "You seem incapable of understanding the difference between language and deeds. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on?
Once it's over, yes.
Yes, forget it ever happened? Never mention it again? I suppose we can forget 9/11 in 10 years? And the Irish troubles soon? I like this idea of yours You seem incapable of understanding the difference between language and deeds. "Obviously, can you explain them for me ? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on?
Once it's over, yes.
Yes, forget it ever happened? Never mention it again? I suppose we can forget 9/11 in 10 years? And the Irish troubles soon? I like this idea of yours You seem incapable of understanding the difference between language and deeds.
Obviously, can you explain them for me ? "no mate as i said before you are incapable of understanding and im not a teacher. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
Yeah, your friend ‘man on fire ‘ used to always go on about them (I wonder what happened to him) . They are racists, but I guess we need to move on?
Once it's over, yes.
Yes, forget it ever happened? Never mention it again? I suppose we can forget 9/11 in 10 years? And the Irish troubles soon? I like this idea of yours You seem incapable of understanding the difference between language and deeds.
Obviously, can you explain them for me ? no mate as i said before you are incapable of understanding and im not a teacher."Ah ok, thanks for that , much appreciated | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country? "maybe if black rappers didn’t use the n word in every sentence that word would of nigh on disappeared now | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country? maybe if black rappers didn’t use the n word in every sentence that word would of nigh on disappeared now "Yeah, should we ban them from using it? I bet if we did it would never be used again? | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country? maybe if black rappers didn’t use the n word in every sentence that word would of nigh on disappeared now
Yeah, should we ban them from using it? I bet if we did it would never be used again? "maybe not but it wouldn’t be on the radio and Telly every day but hey crack on mate if you like that word becoming the norm again that’s upto you personally I’d prefer it to dissapear for good | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. How can it be laughable when there is evidence of his racism? An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. " | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. " I recognise you from some where? Anyway , yes Boris is educated, he has a huge majority , 4 non white people in his 26 person cabinet ,I don’t know how many languages is he fluent in? However, Dave thinks he is racist and Dave is allowed his opinion, Dave also has thousands of fans and millions watched him last night, we on the other hand are on a sex site forum with an audience of approximately 30 people . I dont think Dave gives a shit what we think | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. " ************************ Exactly. Says enough when it's from the flapping jaw of a thirty-bob 'rapper'(sic) Ye couldn't make it up. (As per, simply my considered opinion!) Eva. | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. ************************ Exactly. Says enough when it's from the flapping jaw of a thirty-bob 'rapper'(sic) Ye couldn't make it up. (As per, simply my considered opinion!) Eva. " Watched by millions , | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is " Lol.. Prolly | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. ************************ Exactly. Says enough when it's from the flapping jaw of a thirty-bob 'rapper'(sic) Ye couldn't make it up. (As per, simply my considered opinion!) Eva. Watched by millions , "*************************** Forgotten in months! | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. ************************ Exactly. Says enough when it's from the flapping jaw of a thirty-bob 'rapper'(sic) Ye couldn't make it up. (As per, simply my considered opinion!) Eva. Watched by millions ,
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"Months? That long? His cabinet have been out in force trying to protect Boris, so Boris is aware of what Dave says do you think Dave has read what you have said on here | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. ************************ Exactly. Says enough when it's from the flapping jaw of a thirty-bob 'rapper'(sic) Ye couldn't make it up. (As per, simply my considered opinion!) Eva. Watched by millions ,
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Months? That long? His cabinet have been out in force trying to protect Boris, so Boris is aware of what Dave says do you think Dave has read what you have said on here "***************** Oh dear, oh dear.... Do I REALLY to point out the fact, which is patently evident to the 'compos mentis' folks here, that the (cough...)...... 'rapper'(sic)...... will, likely as not, provide the needy with their 'flash in the pan' jolt/kick/hit, whatever and last maybe, one score & ten....months, shall we say??!! Now, enough gay banter, The Sweeney is on television and I'm busy engrossed. Be good, have fun. Eva...  | |||
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"Boris is multi lingual, exceptionally talented and has the unconditional support of a large part of the electorate. His cabinet is multi cultural and more diverse than any previous cabinet. A rapper suggesting that Boris is racist is laughable. It simply shows that anyone can call someone a racist without any supporting evidence. An analysis of the current cabinet is a simply answer to the question. I assume that the rapper concern ed is just engaging in a cheap publicity stunt. ************************ Exactly. Says enough when it's from the flapping jaw of a thirty-bob 'rapper'(sic) Ye couldn't make it up. (As per, simply my considered opinion!) Eva. Watched by millions ,
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Months? That long? His cabinet have been out in force trying to protect Boris, so Boris is aware of what Dave says do you think Dave has read what you have said on here
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Oh dear, oh dear....
Do I REALLY to point out the fact, which is patently evident to the 'compos mentis' folks here, that the (cough...)...... 'rapper'(sic)...... will, likely as not, provide the needy with their 'flash in the pan' jolt/kick/hit, whatever and last maybe, one score & ten....months, shall we say??!!
Now, enough gay banter, The Sweeney is on television and I'm busy engrossed.
Be good, have fun.
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?"You do like to shoehorn you islamaphobic agenda into every thread possible. Yawn. This thread was a good read. Some people got very cross and confused about a man calling a racist man, a racist. | |||
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"Quick, let's all jump on the "if you don't agree with the rapper you must be a racist as well" bandwagon. I'm a white man using a black mouse on my computer. So I must be racist
Why? That makes no sense? Has Boris made racists comments in the past or not ?
Personally I don't, but you do. Happy now ?
Referring to black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” ? That isn’t racist? Get over it ffs it was 20 years ago.
Well, Dave wants reparations for things from 200 years ago, so I guess 20 years must be like it was only yesterday.
Ah, so the past isn’t important? What is the cut off point? 25,50, 60 years? Anything says or done before then is irrelevant?
Exactly! Those Vikings have alot to answer for!!
What is your cut off point then? Give me a number ?
1 generation. Otherwise we'll never move on.
Ok, about every 25-30 years? So people who are now in there 50-60s can forget about everything they did, learnt and believe in their 20s as it is now irrelevant? That could work
I see your point, it's important we remember our history. Now i can see the value in the Marching season in helping northern Ireland's peace process. It's good to remain bitter about these things.
I think they should be banned, I like your idea, erase our memories after 25-30 years, forget honouring WW2 etc, we need to move on? Right?
I think if you look at how the population of Germany and Britain view each other these days, you'll see we already have. We love German cars for example, and the days of not buying anything Japanese have long since passed.
I think you are on to something, how would we erase everyone’s memory? Get some of those MIB gadgets? I feel a bit sorry for the older generations though
There's a difference between "erasing memory" to stopping reminding people why they should feel angry for what happened in the past. It's possible to move on. No one alive today is to blame for the black slave trade. The past can not be changed. Likewise the viking and norman invasions.
Do you remember apartheid in South Africa, or have you heard about segregation in the USA? Yes we need to move on, but some things can’t be forgotten so easily. Maybe you think racism and prejudices don’t exist in this country?
Oh you mean those Asian gangs targeting white girls?
You do like to shoehorn you islamaphobic agenda into every thread possible. Yawn.
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" And like clockwork,the Fabio gaslighting "white privilege" myth raises its ugly head once again. Well done Fabio... well done " white privilege a "myth"... really? Sometimes I wonder how you can say that with a straight face.... I will just say this and move on, those who don't acknowledge history are doomed to repeat it..... anyway dave made exactly the same point that stormzy did, which is that whilst the UK may not be as racist as other countries.. "least racist" doesn't mean that "racism" does not exist!... it also doesn't mean "racism" is being pointed at everyone!!! some are so blinkered they will never see it..... some will that umbridge that its being mentioned! | |||
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" And like clockwork,the Fabio gaslighting "white privilege" myth raises its ugly head once again. Well done Fabio... well done white privilege a "myth"... really? Sometimes I wonder how you can say that with a straight face.... I will just say this and move on, those who don't acknowledge history are doomed to repeat it..... anyway dave made exactly the same point that stormzy did, which is that whilst the UK may not be as racist as other countries.. "least racist" doesn't mean that "racism" does not exist!... it also doesn't mean "racism" is being pointed at everyone!!! some are so blinkered they will never see it..... some will that umbridge that its being mentioned!" | |||
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" And like clockwork,the Fabio gaslighting "white privilege" myth raises its ugly head once again. Well done Fabio... well done white privilege a "myth"... really? Sometimes I wonder how you can say that with a straight face.... I will just say this and move on, those who don't acknowledge history are doomed to repeat it..... anyway dave made exactly the same point that stormzy did, which is that whilst the UK may not be as racist as other countries.. "least racist" doesn't mean that "racism" does not exist!... it also doesn't mean "racism" is being pointed at everyone!!! some are so blinkered they will never see it..... some will that umbridge that its being mentioned!" Yes it does racism is pointed at everyone can you name me one country where it doesnt exist in someones opinion? | |||
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"What does everyone think? Dave took aim at Boris Johnson, the British media’s treatment of Meghan Markle and racism within British culture during his powerful performance at this year’s Brit Awards. The rapper began his performance with a rendition of his song Black, an exploration of Black history and social injustice, while seated at a piano. He followed this with a brand new verse, in which he branded the prime minister a “real racist”. “It is racist, whether or not it feels racist,” he began. “The truth is our prime minister’s a real racist. They say you should be grateful we’re the least racist, I say the least racist is still racist.” He rapped: "And if somebody hasn't said it / Equality is a right, it doesn't deserve credit / If you don't wanna get it, then you're never gonna get it / How the news treats Kate versus how they're treating Megan." Referring to the victim of last year’s London Bridge terror attack, Jack Merritt, Dave was heard rapping: “Rest in peace Jack Merritt, you’re my brother in arms, there’s tears in our eyes and love in our hearts. “We never had the same background, culture or background, you devoted your life to giving others a chance. And for that, I’m so taken aback, because it gave us all a voice, I have to say it for Jack.” As he reached the climax of his rap, Dave concluded: “We want rehabilitation, that would be amazing, our Grenfell victims still need accommodation. And we still need support for the Windrush generation, reparations for the time our people spent on plantations.”" Can someone express their opinion on a politician? Yes. Can they choose to do it publicly on a large platform to amplify their view? Yes. Is Boris Johnson racist? Probably not, but he uses racist and homophobic rhetoric for political and publicity reasons. He is on the record for having done so and he has never acknowledged that any of his comments were in any way reprehensible or let alone apologised for them. Is Megan treated significantly more harshly by the press than Kate? Yes. Is it because she is coloured or foreign or already a celebrity or that there is opportunity? Probably all of these things. Is it laudable that he is mourning for a victim of a terrorist attack who he knew personally? Yes. Would the country be better off if criminals were rehabilitated rather than just released to commit more crime? Yes. Should Grenfell victims be rehoused by now? Yes. What does anyone think is wrong about any of that? | |||
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"What does everyone think? Dave took aim at Boris Johnson, the British media’s treatment of Meghan Markle and racism within British culture during his powerful performance at this year’s Brit Awards. The rapper began his performance with a rendition of his song Black, an exploration of Black history and social injustice, while seated at a piano. He followed this with a brand new verse, in which he branded the prime minister a “real racist”. “It is racist, whether or not it feels racist,” he began. “The truth is our prime minister’s a real racist. They say you should be grateful we’re the least racist, I say the least racist is still racist.” He rapped: "And if somebody hasn't said it / Equality is a right, it doesn't deserve credit / If you don't wanna get it, then you're never gonna get it / How the news treats Kate versus how they're treating Megan." Referring to the victim of last year’s London Bridge terror attack, Jack Merritt, Dave was heard rapping: “Rest in peace Jack Merritt, you’re my brother in arms, there’s tears in our eyes and love in our hearts. “We never had the same background, culture or background, you devoted your life to giving others a chance. And for that, I’m so taken aback, because it gave us all a voice, I have to say it for Jack.” As he reached the climax of his rap, Dave concluded: “We want rehabilitation, that would be amazing, our Grenfell victims still need accommodation. And we still need support for the Windrush generation, reparations for the time our people spent on plantations.” Can someone express their opinion on a politician? Yes. Can they choose to do it publicly on a large platform to amplify their view? Yes. Is Boris Johnson racist? Probably not, but he uses racist and homophobic rhetoric for political and publicity reasons. He is on the record for having done so and he has never acknowledged that any of his comments were in any way reprehensible or let alone apologised for them. Is Megan treated significantly more harshly by the press than Kate? Yes. Is it because she is coloured or foreign or already a celebrity or that there is opportunity? Probably all of these things. Is it laudable that he is mourning for a victim of a terrorist attack who he knew personally? Yes. Would the country be better off if criminals were rehabilitated rather than just released to commit more crime? Yes. Should Grenfell victims be rehoused by now? Yes. What does anyone think is wrong about any of that?" agree with all thee above apart from rehabillitated you have to want that can’t be made to | |||
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"What does everyone think? Dave took aim at Boris Johnson, the British media’s treatment of Meghan Markle and racism within British culture during his powerful performance at this year’s Brit Awards. The rapper began his performance with a rendition of his song Black, an exploration of Black history and social injustice, while seated at a piano. He followed this with a brand new verse, in which he branded the prime minister a “real racist”. “It is racist, whether or not it feels racist,” he began. “The truth is our prime minister’s a real racist. They say you should be grateful we’re the least racist, I say the least racist is still racist.” He rapped: "And if somebody hasn't said it / Equality is a right, it doesn't deserve credit / If you don't wanna get it, then you're never gonna get it / How the news treats Kate versus how they're treating Megan." Referring to the victim of last year’s London Bridge terror attack, Jack Merritt, Dave was heard rapping: “Rest in peace Jack Merritt, you’re my brother in arms, there’s tears in our eyes and love in our hearts. “We never had the same background, culture or background, you devoted your life to giving others a chance. And for that, I’m so taken aback, because it gave us all a voice, I have to say it for Jack.” As he reached the climax of his rap, Dave concluded: “We want rehabilitation, that would be amazing, our Grenfell victims still need accommodation. And we still need support for the Windrush generation, reparations for the time our people spent on plantations.” Can someone express their opinion on a politician? Yes. Can they choose to do it publicly on a large platform to amplify their view? Yes. Is Boris Johnson racist? Probably not, but he uses racist and homophobic rhetoric for political and publicity reasons. He is on the record for having done so and he has never acknowledged that any of his comments were in any way reprehensible or let alone apologised for them. Is Megan treated significantly more harshly by the press than Kate? Yes. Is it because she is coloured or foreign or already a celebrity or that there is opportunity? Probably all of these things. Is it laudable that he is mourning for a victim of a terrorist attack who he knew personally? Yes. Would the country be better off if criminals were rehabilitated rather than just released to commit more crime? Yes. Should Grenfell victims be rehoused by now? Yes. What does anyone think is wrong about any of that? agree with all thee above apart from rehabillitated you have to want that can’t be made to "
Our prison system has been an underfunded disaster for decades. Cut further and deeper over the course of the last two governments. Like the Police.
There is barely any rehabilitation or training available in prison is there?
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""The boy, 15, was stabbed 9 times in the lungs & chest by a teenage gang whose ringleader was Dave's brother. Last night the mother Naina Ghailan said it was ‘disgusting’ that Dave received an award for an album featuring her son’s killer." " Is he allowed to dedicate his album to his criminal brother? Yes. Does that seem appropriate? No. Does it make any difference to the quality of his music? No. Does it make any difference to any of the other points that he made? No. Do you disagree with any of this? | |||
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""The boy, 15, was stabbed 9 times in the lungs & chest by a teenage gang whose ringleader was Dave's brother. Last night the mother Naina Ghailan said it was ‘disgusting’ that Dave received an award for an album featuring her son’s killer." Is he allowed to dedicate his album to his criminal brother? Yes. Does that seem appropriate? No. Does it make any difference to the quality of his music? No. Does it make any difference to any of the other points that he made? No. Do you disagree with any of this?" Yes, he is glorifying the death caused by his brother, has he condemmed his brother ? If BJ or Corbyn had made such a statement about a brother of theirs and glorified it by including it in any of their work to a killer they would be hounded out of office Sometimes you need to open your eyes and see what decent folk will take from this Also perhaps if he is so concerned about homeless people he could help them himself | |||
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"If the prime minister is a racist governing a xenophobic at best country, why do so many immigrants want to come here? It's not the weather. " Is your brain crumbling there trying to figure out some basic shit? | |||
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""The boy, 15, was stabbed 9 times in the lungs & chest by a teenage gang whose ringleader was Dave's brother. Last night the mother Naina Ghailan said it was ‘disgusting’ that Dave received an award for an album featuring her son’s killer." Is he allowed to dedicate his album to his criminal brother? Yes. Does that seem appropriate? No. Does it make any difference to the quality of his music? No. Does it make any difference to any of the other points that he made? No. Do you disagree with any of this? Yes, he is glorifying the death caused by his brother, has he condemmed his brother ? If BJ or Corbyn had made such a statement about a brother of theirs and glorified it by including it in any of their work to a killer they would be hounded out of office Sometimes you need to open your eyes and see what decent folk will take from this Also perhaps if he is so concerned about homeless people he could help them himself " He is a rapper not a politician. Regardless he should accept the criticism that his position warrants. What do you think this phrase meant when I wrote it? "Is he allowed to dedicate his album to his criminal brother? Yes. Does that seem appropriate? No." Neither you nor I know what he does or does not so for homeless people. You do not, actually, seem to disagree with anything that I wrote, but you are disagreeing anyway | |||
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""The boy, 15, was stabbed 9 times in the lungs & chest by a teenage gang whose ringleader was Dave's brother. Last night the mother Naina Ghailan said it was ‘disgusting’ that Dave received an award for an album featuring her son’s killer." Is he allowed to dedicate his album to his criminal brother? Yes. Does that seem appropriate? No. Does it make any difference to the quality of his music? No. Does it make any difference to any of the other points that he made? No. Do you disagree with any of this? Yes, he is glorifying the death caused by his brother, has he condemmed his brother ? If BJ or Corbyn had made such a statement about a brother of theirs and glorified it by including it in any of their work to a killer they would be hounded out of office Sometimes you need to open your eyes and see what decent folk will take from this Also perhaps if he is so concerned about homeless people he could help them himself " Oh the irony. Johnson's racist, sexist and homophobic words have not seen him hounded from office. I doubt anything else he said would stop his supporters from supporting him. | |||
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"Oh dear another minor celeb telling the world their opinion. Is he going to he flying all round the world next telling people how bad climate change is He is right Boris Johnson and his government are racist. Says some Z list rapper. Must be true then. " | |||
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"I didnt see him call out Corbyn and the proven Anti Semitism Labour Party goons . No , just focus on Boris "Boris is the Prime Minister and sets government policy. Corbyn is the outgoing head of the opposition. Should he also be commenting on the SNP and LibDems?
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""Being constantly told that - My country is racist The government is racist The PM is racist My family are racist My friends are racist And that "Black only" job vacancies, apprenticeships ,associations, clubs, unions, housing are NOT racist... ......is making me a bit racist."" ********************* Well said Clem. Eva | |||
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""Being constantly told that - My country is racist The government is racist The PM is racist My family are racist My friends are racist And that "Black only" job vacancies, apprenticeships ,associations, clubs, unions, housing are NOT racist... ......is making me a bit racist."" "Constantly"? By whom? The Daily Mail? The Telegraph? People in the street? What "black only" jobs are there advertised? You are quite the victim it seems. Poor you. Again, how about actually saying if you believe that any of the Prime Minister's published opinions have racist connotations? Has he acknowledged that they might be in any way? If your opinion is yes, then what's to complain about? If your opinion is no then perhaps you actually are a little racist? It's allowed. It's a natural instinct. You just have to decide if you are alright with that or not. | |||
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"Stormzy offering Cambridge scholarships to poor black boys is OK. Sir Bryan Thwaites offering private school bursaries to poor white boys is racist. Mixed up attitudes give out mixed signals. " Sir Bryan Thwaite's offer was turned down based on Winchester and Dulwich not wishing to make any distinction to awards based purely on ethnic minority. That was their choice. I have no issue with that. Do you? That leaves Cambridge deciding that they would discriminate based on ethnic background. I don't, personally like the idea, but they seem to feel that the publicity alone probably encourages more applicants from a severely underrepresented group. Again, their choice. To the best of my knowledge, the alternative option was not offered to either. If it was and it was turned down then there would be a double standard at work, but we cannot assess that. | |||
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"Stormzy offering Cambridge scholarships to poor black boys is OK. Sir Bryan Thwaites offering private school bursaries to poor white boys is racist. Mixed up attitudes give out mixed signals. " For clarity I think that both offers were laudable in their own way. | |||
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""Being constantly told that - My country is racist The government is racist The PM is racist My family are racist My friends are racist And that "Black only" job vacancies, apprenticeships ,associations, clubs, unions, housing are NOT racist... ......is making me a bit racist." "Constantly"? By whom? The Daily Mail? The Telegraph? People in the street? What "black only" jobs are there advertised? You are quite the victim it seems. Poor you. Again, how about actually saying if you believe that any of the Prime Minister's published opinions have racist connotations? Has he acknowledged that they might be in any way? If your opinion is yes, then what's to complain about? If your opinion is no then perhaps you actually are a little racist? It's allowed. It's a natural instinct. You just have to decide if you are alright with that or not." just asking as you ask a lot of questions do you think your a little racist at times and do you think most ppl are a little racist ? | |||
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""Being constantly told that - My country is racist The government is racist The PM is racist My family are racist My friends are racist And that "Black only" job vacancies, apprenticeships ,associations, clubs, unions, housing are NOT racist... ......is making me a bit racist."" Apparently the only racist people in the UK are white people. Yeah right. | |||
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""Being constantly told that - My country is racist The government is racist The PM is racist My family are racist My friends are racist And that "Black only" job vacancies, apprenticeships ,associations, clubs, unions, housing are NOT racist... ......is making me a bit racist." Apparently the only racist people in the UK are white people. Yeah right." Really? According to who? That must be the fault of that evil Corbyn again. Somehow. | |||
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""Being constantly told that - My country is racist The government is racist The PM is racist My family are racist My friends are racist And that "Black only" job vacancies, apprenticeships ,associations, clubs, unions, housing are NOT racist... ......is making me a bit racist." "Constantly"? By whom? The Daily Mail? The Telegraph? People in the street? What "black only" jobs are there advertised? You are quite the victim it seems. Poor you. Again, how about actually saying if you believe that any of the Prime Minister's published opinions have racist connotations? Has he acknowledged that they might be in any way? If your opinion is yes, then what's to complain about? If your opinion is no then perhaps you actually are a little racist? It's allowed. It's a natural instinct. You just have to decide if you are alright with that or not. just asking as you ask a lot of questions do you think your a little racist at times and do you think most ppl are a little racist ?" What's the context? I try not to be but I can definitely say that my initial reaction to seeing a young black guy dressed in a certain way is to be more on edge. I am aware of this though and then try not to be such a fool. Am I racist towards other ethnic groups? Not that I am aware of although This may have a similar reaction to a white man whom I may percieve may have a racial prejudice towards me, but this is not instinctive. It is a far more sober assessment of the individual. As I said, the science indicates that we have prejudices. They were useful for survival. Not necessarily so much racist but treating "us" and "them" differently. How we choose to react to this is down to us. This can be made easier or more difficult depending on our upbringing and social group. | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a little englander." Boris is many things and at the same time nothing. It may on occasion suit him to wear the clothes of a Little Englander (a pejorative term which doesn’t fit anyone I have ever met) but I doubt he fits the bill. He is a rich and well traveled global citizen who mixes with similar people. The only thing we can be sure of is his love of Boris and lust for sex and power. He has said things that could easily be construed as racist but I doubt he is. He has long argued for an amnesty for illegal immigrants. He has celebrated his Turkish ancestors. His views are not deeply held convictions. He has argued strongly for both sides of the Brexit debate. Boris says and does things to further his career and keep him in the public eye. | |||
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