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"nice political stunt to get re elected by remainers. " He had played a blinder, well done Sadiq | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. " looks like you will need to move to london then. | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. looks like you will need to move to london then. " There will be a lot of unhappy people if it's only London. Hopefully might be a fee and we can help the EU with there budget. | |||
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"Love the way the remainers on here will clutch at any straw its a publicity stunt the election for mayor is coming up and he thinks its a vote winner for him.He does not have the power to enact it but i guess he is banking on enough stupid people believing he can." He has rattled your cage | |||
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"Love the way the remainers on here will clutch at any straw its a publicity stunt the election for mayor is coming up and he thinks its a vote winner for him.He does not have the power to enact it but i guess he is banking on enough stupid people believing he can. He has rattled your cage " not at all mate i think his time would be better spent sorting out the met there were another 3 stabbings in london on sunday and he swans of to brussels on a jolly. | |||
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"Love the way the remainers on here will clutch at any straw its a publicity stunt the election for mayor is coming up and he thinks its a vote winner for him.He does not have the power to enact it but i guess he is banking on enough stupid people believing he can. He has rattled your cage not at all mate i think his time would be better spent sorting out the met there were another 3 stabbings in london on sunday and he swans of to brussels on a jolly." Why would he care? | |||
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"Love the way the remainers on here will clutch at any straw its a publicity stunt the election for mayor is coming up and he thinks its a vote winner for him.He does not have the power to enact it but i guess he is banking on enough stupid people believing he can. He has rattled your cage not at all mate i think his time would be better spent sorting out the met there were another 3 stabbings in london on sunday and he swans of to brussels on a jolly. Why would he care?" Thing is it'll probably take some pretty tough action to kurb knife crime that enough of the public would be against happening for one reason or another. Creating jobs is one factor but an overall clamp down on all crime from petty upwards is needed but that requires money for lots more police. | |||
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"nice political stunt to get re elected by remainers. " Actually the idea dates back to 2017. It was even supported by the then Brexit secretary David Davis. But hey. If it gives you ammo to have a dig at Khan you go for it. Seems only us Remainers are capable of research. Maybe brexiters should learn the skill? Although it's a bit late for that really. A | |||
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"nice political stunt to get re elected by remainers. Actually the idea dates back to 2017. It was even supported by the then Brexit secretary David Davis. But hey. If it gives you ammo to have a dig at Khan you go for it. Seems only us Remainers are capable of research. Maybe brexiters should learn the skill? Although it's a bit late for that really. A" Must say nothing you've said can really be argued against if being truthful | |||
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"nice political stunt to get re elected by remainers. Actually the idea dates back to 2017. It was even supported by the then Brexit secretary David Davis. But hey. If it gives you ammo to have a dig at Khan you go for it. Seems only us Remainers are capable of research. Maybe brexiters should learn the skill? Although it's a bit late for that really. A" Perhaps if you researched what the EU have to say about it you wouldn't be so excited. The only way you can keep EU citizenship will be to move there | |||
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"Love the way the remainers on here will clutch at any straw its a publicity stunt the election for mayor is coming up and he thinks its a vote winner for him.He does not have the power to enact it but i guess he is banking on enough stupid people believing he can." Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing | |||
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"Love the way the remainers on here will clutch at any straw its a publicity stunt the election for mayor is coming up and he thinks its a vote winner for him.He does not have the power to enact it but i guess he is banking on enough stupid people believing he can. Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing " Exactly. | |||
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"That’s 17 million stupid people then lol" If you say so | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. " there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still..." This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T | |||
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"But surely under the new rules anyone who becomes an EU citizen will then have to apply for residence in the UK because they would not longer be a British citizen " Some sources of information about these new rules? | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T " now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol" You are right. Leavers must be separated from the rest of normal society | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol You are right. Leavers must be separated from the rest of normal society " well if normall is the minority you may have something there | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol You are right. Leavers must be separated from the rest of normal society well if normall is the minority you may have something there " What is 66.4 million minus 17.4 million? | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol You are right. Leavers must be separated from the rest of normal society well if normall is the minority you may have something there What is 66.4 million minus 17.4 million? " why are you assuming they are remainers ? What is 66.4 million minus 16.3 million ? | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol You are right. Leavers must be separated from the rest of normal society well if normall is the minority you may have something there What is 66.4 million minus 17.4 million? why are you assuming they are remainers ? What is 66.4 million minus 16.3 million ?" You assumed that the minority of the country wanted to remain? It is up there, in your previous post | |||
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"Ok then I’ll play yr game the minority who voted in the referendum then there do ya feel better petal mmmmmmwha " Yeah, that is much better, thanks for taking the time to explain, | |||
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"Ok then I’ll play yr game the minority who voted in the referendum then there do ya feel better petal mmmmmmwha Yeah, that is much better, thanks for taking the time to explain, " | |||
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"That’s 17 million stupid people then lol" don't forget the.4 don't leave us out | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still..." Your correct Fabio. It was a quite a clever plan by Salmond and Sturgeon. | |||
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"That’s 17 million stupid people then lol don't forget the.4 don't leave us out " Sorry, but the .4 have died | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still... This sounds too good to he true. I would only agree to these terms if every remainer in england moved to Scotland permanently and we built a wall. A big beautiful wall. T now there’s a thought I’d think most leavers would accept higher taxes to pay for it aswell lol You are right. Leavers must be separated from the rest of normal society well if normall is the minority you may have something there What is 66.4 million minus 17.4 million? why are you assuming they are remainers ? What is 66.4 million minus 16.3 million ?" 51.1 million . 17.4 million of which are wrong uns | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing " More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. " Savage take down of Leave voter ignorance. | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. " Yes it's great how Brexit shut the borders and stopped all the illegal immigrants. Top notch but there's not many other benefits .. sorry any | |||
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"Top notch but there's not many other benefits .. sorry any" Oh I don't know...it helped "out" assorted members of my family who were closet racists and xenophobes. | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. Savage take down of Leave voter ignorance. " How did I know Johnny boy would be making his usual anti Brexit comment in this thread | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. Savage take down of Leave voter ignorance. How did I know Johnny boy would be making his usual anti Brexit comment in this thread " This thread seems to be about something brexity. Seems a fair place to comment. | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. Savage take down of Leave voter ignorance. How did I know Johnny boy would be making his usual anti Brexit comment in this thread " Someone else brought it up. And someone else ripped the piss out of Brexit voters. Still, I'm flattered that you think of me so much. | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. Savage take down of Leave voter ignorance. How did I know Johnny boy would be making his usual anti Brexit comment in this thread Someone else brought it up. And someone else ripped the piss out of Brexit voters. Still, I'm flattered that you think of me so much. " Difficult not to since you're always around anything anti Brexit | |||
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" Many stupid people believe that Brexit is a good thing More stupid people believed remaining was in our national interests. The 52% of us that didn’t want to be governed by an unaccountable foreign entity, have pride in our Sovereign nation and loyalty to it voted to leave even if it meant a few short-term blips along the way. Savage take down of Leave voter ignorance. How did I know Johnny boy would be making his usual anti Brexit comment in this thread Someone else brought it up. And someone else ripped the piss out of Brexit voters. Still, I'm flattered that you think of me so much. Difficult not to since you're always around anything anti Brexit " Does that mean you keep noticing me because you're always around anything "anti-brexit"? | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative?" What does 'consistently' mean. London has only had 3 mayor's, 2 Labour and 1 Tory. | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative?" London the most intelligent area in the UK, that is crazy talk | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative?" On what basis did you arrive at the conclusion that London is the most intelligent area? Have you even used the public transport here? | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative? On what basis did you arrive at the conclusion that London is the most intelligent area? Have you even used the public transport here? " I was going to say, Intelligence tends to be demonstrated by knowing whats going on around then and being concerned about it, not the complete opposite. | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative?" Sorry but there's not much intelligent things to say about whats happening in London at the moment with LTNs in unnecessary places which are causing more pollution and traffic that they were meant to prevent, knife and other crime higher then they were berfore 2016, public transport not up to scratch. Clearly we need change so Chuck the Khan out come next month | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative? Sorry but there's not much intelligent things to say about whats happening in London at the moment with LTNs in unnecessary places which are causing more pollution and traffic that they were meant to prevent, knife and other crime higher then they were berfore 2016, public transport not up to scratch. Clearly we need change so Chuck the Khan out come next month" Oh i hope he wins,just to see your meltdown on here | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative? Sorry but there's not much intelligent things to say about whats happening in London at the moment with LTNs in unnecessary places which are causing more pollution and traffic that they were meant to prevent, knife and other crime higher then they were berfore 2016, public transport not up to scratch. Clearly we need change so Chuck the Khan out come next month Oh i hope he wins,just to see your meltdown on here " Why would you prefer to see someone's meltdown over the good that a change in mind mayor policy have on a massive population group? Strange. | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again " You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. " you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it " Boris wasted £1 billion of taxpayers money on vanity projects. Most other things he did were continuing Ken Livingstone's projects. I would say Boris has been the worst mayor London had. He just had the privilege of government funding. As soon as Boris left city hall, funding for TFL etc was slashed (funny eh). | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it Boris wasted £1 billion of taxpayers money on vanity projects. Most other things he did were continuing Ken Livingstone's projects. I would say Boris has been the worst mayor London had. He just had the privilege of government funding. As soon as Boris left city hall, funding for TFL etc was slashed (funny eh)." Straight Outta Guardian | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it Boris wasted £1 billion of taxpayers money on vanity projects. Most other things he did were continuing Ken Livingstone's projects. I would say Boris has been the worst mayor London had. He just had the privilege of government funding. As soon as Boris left city hall, funding for TFL etc was slashed (funny eh). Straight Outta Guardian " Not really. Financial times reported this too, and they are fairly neutral, albeit economically right leaning. | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it Boris wasted £1 billion of taxpayers money on vanity projects. Most other things he did were continuing Ken Livingstone's projects. I would say Boris has been the worst mayor London had. He just had the privilege of government funding. As soon as Boris left city hall, funding for TFL etc was slashed (funny eh). Straight Outta Guardian Not really. Financial times reported this too, and they are fairly neutral, albeit economically right leaning." Why are you talking about 'right leaning'? Did the FT say that he 'wasted' £1b? You're brand new here and you've already shown us you can't be objective, this should be fun | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it Boris wasted £1 billion of taxpayers money on vanity projects. Most other things he did were continuing Ken Livingstone's projects. I would say Boris has been the worst mayor London had. He just had the privilege of government funding. As soon as Boris left city hall, funding for TFL etc was slashed (funny eh)." Well Im not saying Boris was perfect far from it actually but we have to agree to disagree. I mean you're talking from maybe a financial point but on crime in particular knife and murders Sadiq loses on this. Just for the record Sadiq Khan isnt the reason why we have knife crime but under his time as Mayor its got worse. Over a 1000 people in London have been murdered which includes 160 teenagers (and counting) since Sadiq Khan been Mayor. Under Boris Johnson it was 118 teenagers being murdered and Sadiq Khan claims knife crime is down under him? If thats the case then I afraid his up to the job | |||
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"Its funny how Sadiq Khan promising to eradidic rough sleeping in London by 2030 when the amount of people in London being made homeless has gone up by 70% since his been Mayor. Just something to think about to those who intend on voting for him again You have this weird unhealthy obsession with him. You are reviving months old topics. you can say what want but fact is the Mayoral election in London is 2 weeks away and most people werent aware of it hence why I brought it up so excuse me if you think I have this weird obsession with him its because I dont want him re-elected. His been the worse London Mayor ever and records show it Boris wasted £1 billion of taxpayers money on vanity projects. Most other things he did were continuing Ken Livingstone's projects. I would say Boris has been the worst mayor London had. He just had the privilege of government funding. As soon as Boris left city hall, funding for TFL etc was slashed (funny eh). Well Im not saying Boris was perfect far from it actually but we have to agree to disagree. I mean you're talking from maybe a financial point but on crime in particular knife and murders Sadiq loses on this. Just for the record Sadiq Khan isnt the reason why we have knife crime but under his time as Mayor its got worse. Over a 1000 people in London have been murdered which includes 160 teenagers (and counting) since Sadiq Khan been Mayor. Under Boris Johnson it was 118 teenagers being murdered and Sadiq Khan claims knife crime is down under him? If thats the case then I afraid his up to the job" Boris closed hundred of police stations (fact, not a lefty opinion) Police numbers fell when Boris was Mayor (fact, not a lefty opinion) The government has slashed funding for social care and youth centre (fact, not a lefty opinion) | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative? Sorry but there's not much intelligent things to say about whats happening in London at the moment with LTNs in unnecessary places which are causing more pollution and traffic that they were meant to prevent, knife and other crime higher then they were berfore 2016, public transport not up to scratch. Clearly we need change so Chuck the Khan out come next month Oh i hope he wins,just to see your meltdown on here Why would you prefer to see someone's meltdown over the good that a change in mind mayor policy have on a massive population group? Strange. " I want to see the meltdown and if you have a problem with that then tough | |||
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"Lets not mention about the Government because I want to talk about the London Mayors but yes Boris did close police station and so did Sadiq (35 of them of memory serves) And I guess you're gonna tell me there's been more TFL and other public sector strikes under Boris right? " how many police stations did boris close? | |||
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"Lets not mention about the Government because I want to talk about the London Mayors but yes Boris did close police station and so did Sadiq (35 of them of memory serves) And I guess you're gonna tell me there's been more TFL and other public sector strikes under Boris right? " Government cuts have attributed to a rise in crime all over the UK. However the rise in London is the lowest compared to the UK. It's important to mention this as there are factors the mayor does not control. However, closures of police stations and cuts to police are absolutely on the Mayors watch. Boris Johnson reduced police numbers and closed 63 police stations. TFL has been underfunded since Sadiq Khan was elected. Politically motivated cuts to TFL by the Tories have obviously affected its finances and operation. London receives the least amount of public transport funding than any other major city in the world. That being said, TFL had more debt under Boris Johnson than Sadiq Khan. | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change" You never answered the question, how many police stations did jonston close? | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change You never answered the question, how many police stations did jonston close?" It was answered previously by my man, its 63 | |||
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"Lets not mention about the Government because I want to talk about the London Mayors but yes Boris did close police station and so did Sadiq (35 of them of memory serves) And I guess you're gonna tell me there's been more TFL and other public sector strikes under Boris right? " Have you previously covered the fact that it was him who implemented ULEZ? | |||
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"This is what we need, we would definitely go for it as didn't want to loose our EU citizenship status. there was a proposal by the SNP a while back that if they were to get independence they would offer anyone in the UK who wanted one a one time offer of scottish nationality, which would then mean scottish passports and probable EU membership.... I don't know if that is the policy still..." I've located my old grandads birth / baptism certificate from Dublin and getting the papers in place to get my Irish passport so the 90/180 rule will not apply for extended holidays and maybe a holiday home. I'll still keep my British Passport and Paul can piggy back my stays but his 90/180 would start if he stays on and I return home. Let see how long all this takes, not expecting anything soon. Anyone else done this? | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change You never answered the question, how many police stations did jonston close? It was answered previously by my man, its 63" cant find anywhere its mentioned about johnston closing 6e police stations,though you did mention khan closed 30odd,funny how you never mentioned the 63 closed by johnston | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change" I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades " I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways " Again, you are ignoring the point that the mayor is not responsible for LTNs. | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways " Have you asked mosf people | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways Have you asked mosf people" The chap you replied to claimed to have surveyed 1000s of Londoners over the last few years. | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways Have you asked mosf people The chap you replied to claimed to have surveyed 1000s of Londoners over the last few years." Aye a mind that | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways Have you asked mosf people The chap you replied to claimed to have surveyed 1000s of Londoners over the last few years." Yeah I have surveyed thousands of people not saying I've spoken to every single Londoner but from the pool of people that I have spoken too most of them want Sadiq Khan gone. They annouced just recently that crime in London is up by 38% since his been Mayor. Seriously this cant go on for another 4 years as his had 8 years to deal with it. Not blaming him entirely as the Government has some blame to this too but ask yourself this excluding the poplutaion size why is crime lower in Manchester when its run by a Labour mayor in the form of Andy Burnham. | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades " Didn't you know? Khan's to blame for everything... ...hell, I'm no fan of his, but even I can see the utter B-S and the toxic moves going on against him!! But if people want to vote for Susan Hall (lol) on the basis that she isn't Sadiq Khan, that she's gonna revoke ULEZ, blah blah blah, all I'll say is be careful what you wish for... | |||
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"Even with some of the points they you've made Im afraid it overlooks the facts that council tax gone up every year since his been Mayor, Was given a £6 billion bailout for TFL, increased congestion charge and expanding it to weekends, expanded ULEZ twice after he said he wouldnt expand it to the whole of London, introduced the dumbest scheme in LTNs which actually cause more pollution then its suppose to prevent all while crime in general is up not down. However I will give Sadiq Khan credit for providing free school meals to primary school children and freezing travel fare on TFL. But after 8 years its time for change I already highlighted funding issues. Less funding from central gov=higher council tax. This is happening all over the UK. Sadiq introduced LTNs?????? I'm sorry this shows how ignorant you are to all of this. Firstly, LTNs are not managed by the mayor, they are managed by local authorities. Secondly, LTNs have been around for decades I know LTNs have been around since the 70s but his introduced too much in London now. But anyways most people think his done a bad job as Mayor anyways " ...isn't this what's known as "wilful ignorance"? You know, but you're still using it as a stick to beat him with?? | |||
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"If people actually read my last comment I said I dont blame Sadiq Khan entirely on whats going on in London but after 8 years its time for a new Mayor. Not saying any other canditates would be great but I think they will do at least a marginally better job then Sadiq Khan, however if they dont then they to will be voted out in 4 years time and not 8 years" mate you would do marginally better anyone would | |||
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"Looks like London has rejected the Tories misinformation campaign. " Even Baroness Warsi criticised Susan Hall's "gutter politics". | |||
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"Looks like London has rejected the Tories misinformation campaign. " I suspect they realised that however repulsive she is, Hall would never have rolled back ULEZ when she saw how much lovely money it brings. She's a bigot and a fraud and hopefully will disappear without a trace. And Baroness Warsi is one of the few sane voices left in the Conservatives! G | |||
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"Worse case scenario was for Sadiq Khan to have another 4 years in City Hall. So it means more LTNs on London roads, More 20 mph roads where its not necessary, higher council taxes, more deaths on London streets in particular with teenagers, more public transport strikes, will be charged to use the Blackwall tunnel and best of them all is there will be a Pay per mile despite saying he wont but he will find a way to bring it in with an excuse as always. So thank you to everyone who voted for this" You'd be better off blaming the 50%+ that didn't vote. | |||
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"Worse case scenario was for Sadiq Khan to have another 4 years in City Hall. So it means more LTNs on London roads, More 20 mph roads where its not necessary, higher council taxes, more deaths on London streets in particular with teenagers, more public transport strikes, will be charged to use the Blackwall tunnel and best of them all is there will be a Pay per mile despite saying he wont but he will find a way to bring it in with an excuse as always. So thank you to everyone who voted for this" I like how someone else continuously pointed out what the mayor is and isn't responsible for yet you are still parroting the same stuff. | |||
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"Whether he has lost the plot, or not, is irrelevant. He won the election by quite a margin and is clearly the choice of Londoners." so they get what they deserve then | |||
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"Whether he has lost the plot, or not, is irrelevant. He won the election by quite a margin and is clearly the choice of Londoners.so they get what they deserve then " Third term, they’re obviously happy with the job he’s doing. | |||
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"Whether he has lost the plot, or not, is irrelevant. He won the election by quite a margin and is clearly the choice of Londoners.so they get what they deserve then Third term, they’re obviously happy with the job he’s doing." I dont about that because 60% of the registered voters in London didnt vote | |||
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"Whether he has lost the plot, or not, is irrelevant. He won the election by quite a margin and is clearly the choice of Londoners." Yes he did and is the choice of a minority of Londoners. Turnout of about 40%. Says it all really. All it proves is about 60% of Londoners don’t care who is in charge as will make little or no difference to most | |||
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"Whether he has lost the plot, or not, is irrelevant. He won the election by quite a margin and is clearly the choice of Londoners.so they get what they deserve then Third term, they’re obviously happy with the job he’s doing. I dont about that because 60% of the registered voters in London didnt vote" If they were that unhappy with his performance they had the perfect opportunity to get rid of him but chose not to. | |||
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"Third term, they’re obviously happy with the job he’s doing. I don't (sic)about that because 60% of the registered voters in London didn't vote" That means nothing. They had a chance and they did not exercise their chance. If they were so unhappy they could have voted against him, but they did not. Their apathy helped him, because their vote did not oppose him. That's on them. | |||
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"Well I can also say some people were bribed to voting for Sadiq Khan with the "free" school meal scheme if people want to admit it or not. Words of caution if someone promises you something for free you be crazy enough to believe its free" Seeing as you are posting the same thing in more than one thread, so will I… ALL politicians bribe the electorate with promises of something some of them want! Tax cuts. Tighter immigration rules. Nationalisation. Privatisation. Banning this or unbanning that. Etc etc | |||
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"If anyone thinks Sadiq's Khan idea of pedestrianising Oxford Street is a good thing then you definitely lost your minds like he has" I just hope someone has a plan to deal with all the displaced traffic cos all the roads around Oxford Street are busy already. And a plan to reroute the bus stops for people with mobility issues (the surrounding streets are too narrow for a bus). | |||
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"If anyone thinks Sadiq's Khan idea of pedestrianising Oxford Street is a good thing then you definitely lost your minds like he has I just hope someone has a plan to deal with all the displaced traffic cos all the roads around Oxford Street are busy already. And a plan to reroute the bus stops for people with mobility issues (the surrounding streets are too narrow for a bus)." Don't be silly they never have a plan.They just do and shrug their shoulders with the fall out | |||
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"If anyone thinks Sadiq's Khan idea of pedestrianising Oxford Street is a good thing then you definitely lost your minds like he has" He's in your head still? | |||
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"If anyone thinks Sadiq's Khan idea of pedestrianising Oxford Street is a good thing then you definitely lost your minds like he has He's in your head still? " No, there's a lot that can go wrong with having Oxford Street pedestrianised like it can be danger spot for terrorism with emergency services having trouble reaching the location as an example | |||
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"the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters" | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters" You think that kids who go around stabbing other kids go to the local polling station come election day | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street." Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing?" Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters" It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street." Do people other than tourists visit Oxford St? I avoid it at all costs | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Do people other than tourists visit Oxford St? I avoid it at all costs" I have to walk through Oxford street because I work nearby. It's mostly tourists. You will see a huge number of pedestrians usually taking the tube to visit places nearby. Not many actually walking into those shops. It's a great place for the phone stealing moped scumbags though. Maybe this is Sadiq's master plan after all. To stop these theives. | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. " I imagine a fair number of them were until there family's jumped in the back of a lorry in calais | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. " i was using what I said hypothetically | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically " Are you planning any more "extreme" measures? | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically Are you planning any more "extreme" measures?" Dont need to do that with this scheme, apparently i heard there was a by election yesterday in the West End part of Westminster and the Tories won it. While I'm not their biggest fan, they are certainly dead against Oxford Street being pedestrianized so I'm sure they will fight against it happening which I agree | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically Are you planning any more "extreme" measures? Dont need to do that with this scheme, apparently i heard there was a by election yesterday in the West End part of Westminster and the Tories won it. While I'm not their biggest fan, they are certainly dead against Oxford Street being pedestrianized so I'm sure they will fight against it happening which I agree" Westminster, the area with a lower council tax than Blackpool, that Westminster. | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically Are you planning any more "extreme" measures? Dont need to do that with this scheme, apparently i heard there was a by election yesterday in the West End part of Westminster and the Tories won it. While I'm not their biggest fan, they are certainly dead against Oxford Street being pedestrianized so I'm sure they will fight against it happening which I agree" Oxford street is only open to busses and taxis most of the time. Not sure why this is such a big issue. | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically Are you planning any more "extreme" measures? Dont need to do that with this scheme, apparently i heard there was a by election yesterday in the West End part of Westminster and the Tories won it. While I'm not their biggest fan, they are certainly dead against Oxford Street being pedestrianized so I'm sure they will fight against it happening which I agree Oxford street is only open to busses and taxis most of the time. Not sure why this is such a big issue. " Because the alternate roads around the area are already congested and this is bound to cause more traffic jams. And there is absolutely nothing that we gain by pedestrianising the street. | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically Are you planning any more "extreme" measures? Dont need to do that with this scheme, apparently i heard there was a by election yesterday in the West End part of Westminster and the Tories won it. While I'm not their biggest fan, they are certainly dead against Oxford Street being pedestrianized so I'm sure they will fight against it happening which I agree Oxford street is only open to busses and taxis most of the time. Not sure why this is such a big issue. Because the alternate roads around the area are already congested and this is bound to cause more traffic jams. And there is absolutely nothing that we gain by pedestrianising the street." I’m not sure people understand what the roads are like and can be like, if they liken it to their commute it won’t be understood. | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic " Actually, most traffic is banned from Oxford Street already. Much of it is buses and taxis only. | |||
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"Plus the dangers of making Oxford Street pedestrianised is Disabled people will have difficulty accessing there, " Surely access will be easier if there are no vehicles to avoid and no kerbs. " more crime likely to be committed with no police to chase, " This doesn't make sense. Police can be on foot too. " people who work in the area probably might have a hard time reaching if there's any strikes or delays on tube with no buses or taxes allowed in the area no more. " Busses and taxis will still access the area. Just not Oxford street itself. " Also for example if there was a terrorism incident, how are emergency service meant to access the area when vehicles (or bikes ) are no longer able to access Oxford Street? Don't think these things are considered before they are announced" Like any other pedestrianised street, it opens for emergency vehicles. Excellent. Now all that's debunked, you can get behind the idea? | |||
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"But ask yourself, why does the most intelligent area in the UK (I.e., London) consistently vote Labour over Conservative?" Only a small number are intelligent - the rest well leave that to your thoughts.............. | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic Actually, most traffic is banned from Oxford Street already. Much of it is buses and taxis only." I walk by that road everyday. Even with just taxis and buses, there are numerous vehicles going that way. I am yet to hear a valid reason why it has to be pedestrianised. It's just a populist move by Sadiq which his followers blindly lap up. | |||
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"Plus the dangers of making Oxford Street pedestrianised is Disabled people will have difficulty accessing there, Surely access will be easier if there are no vehicles to avoid and no kerbs. more crime likely to be committed with no police to chase, This doesn't make sense. Police can be on foot too. people who work in the area probably might have a hard time reaching if there's any strikes or delays on tube with no buses or taxes allowed in the area no more. Busses and taxis will still access the area. Just not Oxford street itself. Also for example if there was a terrorism incident, how are emergency service meant to access the area when vehicles (or bikes ) are no longer able to access Oxford Street? Don't think these things are considered before they are announced Like any other pedestrianised street, it opens for emergency vehicles. Excellent. Now all that's debunked, you can get behind the idea?" You haven't justified why it has to be pedestrianised. Haven't talked about the traffic in the surrounding reason. Pretty sure you don't have the answers. Just blindly following whatever Sadiq says. | |||
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"Plus the dangers of making Oxford Street pedestrianised is Disabled people will have difficulty accessing there, Surely access will be easier if there are no vehicles to avoid and no kerbs. more crime likely to be committed with no police to chase, This doesn't make sense. Police can be on foot too. people who work in the area probably might have a hard time reaching if there's any strikes or delays on tube with no buses or taxes allowed in the area no more. Busses and taxis will still access the area. Just not Oxford street itself. Also for example if there was a terrorism incident, how are emergency service meant to access the area when vehicles (or bikes ) are no longer able to access Oxford Street? Don't think these things are considered before they are announced Like any other pedestrianised street, it opens for emergency vehicles. Excellent. Now all that's debunked, you can get behind the idea?" Well until you have a reason for Oxford Street to pedestrianized then my reasons why it shouldn't are valid | |||
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"Thing is he puts so much energy on crazy green schemes but can't seem to put that same energy to help stop knife crime in London. Not to say it's his fault why we have knife crime in London as it's not but it's got worse since his been Mayor unless the reason why he doesn't do anything about it is because the people who commit the crimes are his supporters It's rather apt that you use the word crazy in this post because fella what the fuck are you on..? You only need to look at the ages and demographics of the majority of those convicted to know they are so detached from such things as the democratic process they might well be in another country.. i was using what I said hypothetically Are you planning any more "extreme" measures? Dont need to do that with this scheme, apparently i heard there was a by election yesterday in the West End part of Westminster and the Tories won it. While I'm not their biggest fan, they are certainly dead against Oxford Street being pedestrianized so I'm sure they will fight against it happening which I agree Oxford street is only open to busses and taxis most of the time. Not sure why this is such a big issue. Because the alternate roads around the area are already congested and this is bound to cause more traffic jams. And there is absolutely nothing that we gain by pedestrianising the street. I’m not sure people understand what the roads are like and can be like, if they liken it to their commute it won’t be understood." They wouldn't admit it even if the truth slaps them on their face. Remember the thread about the 20mph limit in Wales? The amount of mental gymnastics they did to support it just because it was a move made by politicians they like was laughable. Now the Welsh government is reverting to 30mph in "some roads". I wonder how they are going to explain that. | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic Actually, most traffic is banned from Oxford Street already. Much of it is buses and taxis only. I walk by that road everyday. Even with just taxis and buses, there are numerous vehicles going that way. I am yet to hear a valid reason why it has to be pedestrianised. It's just a populist move by Sadiq which his followers blindly lap up." Have they not given a reason for this change? I would have thought they would have put forward something. I am not from there and hardly ever visit London but assume it would make for a slightly better shopping experience if there are no vehicles. On the downside it could well increase pollution if the nearby streets get more congested, so not great for the environment. I assume there will be some access for delivers and possibly to let disabled people get close to where they want to go | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is?" Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic Actually, most traffic is banned from Oxford Street already. Much of it is buses and taxis only. I walk by that road everyday. Even with just taxis and buses, there are numerous vehicles going that way. I am yet to hear a valid reason why it has to be pedestrianised. It's just a populist move by Sadiq which his followers blindly lap up. Have they not given a reason for this change? I would have thought they would have put forward something. I am not from there and hardly ever visit London but assume it would make for a slightly better shopping experience if there are no vehicles. On the downside it could well increase pollution if the nearby streets get more congested, so not great for the environment. I assume there will be some access for delivers and possibly to let disabled people get close to where they want to go" He says pedestrianising the street would "revive" the street as though the buses and taxis are the reason why it's dying. | |||
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"Plus the dangers of making Oxford Street pedestrianised is Disabled people will have difficulty accessing there, Surely access will be easier if there are no vehicles to avoid and no kerbs. more crime likely to be committed with no police to chase, This doesn't make sense. Police can be on foot too. people who work in the area probably might have a hard time reaching if there's any strikes or delays on tube with no buses or taxes allowed in the area no more. Busses and taxis will still access the area. Just not Oxford street itself. Also for example if there was a terrorism incident, how are emergency service meant to access the area when vehicles (or bikes ) are no longer able to access Oxford Street? Don't think these things are considered before they are announced Like any other pedestrianised street, it opens for emergency vehicles. Excellent. Now all that's debunked, you can get behind the idea? Well until you have a reason for Oxford Street to pedestrianized then my reasons why it shouldn't are valid" I have no opinion either way. Just helping you out with the worries. As pointed out, none of them are valid, and there's nothing for you to be concerned about. | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic Actually, most traffic is banned from Oxford Street already. Much of it is buses and taxis only. I walk by that road everyday. Even with just taxis and buses, there are numerous vehicles going that way. I am yet to hear a valid reason why it has to be pedestrianised. It's just a populist move by Sadiq which his followers blindly lap up." I like the idea of it, I do think it could attract visitors to the area of they did something interesting with the space (street markets, small independent vendors etc). But I can't get behind it until I see a proper, well thought out management plan for the displaced traffic. | |||
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"Not sure what he gets by pedestrianising Oxford Street. Those candy shops have already killed most of the street. Reductions in air pollution a bad thing? Most vehicles going through the Oxford street are going to other places, not to Oxford street itself. They will emit the same amount of gases, only in the nearby streets. Probably even more because of the traffic Actually, most traffic is banned from Oxford Street already. Much of it is buses and taxis only. I walk by that road everyday. Even with just taxis and buses, there are numerous vehicles going that way. I am yet to hear a valid reason why it has to be pedestrianised. It's just a populist move by Sadiq which his followers blindly lap up. I like the idea of it, I do think it could attract visitors to the area of they did something interesting with the space (street markets, small independent vendors etc). But I can't get behind it until I see a proper, well thought out management plan for the displaced traffic." The reason why Oxford street started dying is the same as the reason why many high streets are dying. People don't go out to shop as much as before. Oxford street is particularly affected because of the insane amount of tourists there. Pedestrianising it is not going to solve any of these issues. End of the day, he is going to waste tax payer money on this, while causing traffic around the place, conveniently forget about it and then crying about how he could solve all the problems in the city, if only he had more funding. And his supporters will also believe it blindly. Anyway he can't complain about Tories not giving him enough money anymore. We have a labour government now. It's also funny watching the "pro-science" and "pro-environment" folks conveniently ignore the emissions around the place that will be inevitably caused by the traffic congestion in the roads around the street. | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory" Maybe they think that your mind is so fixed that they don't want to expend the energy on a site which is about swinging? Just a thought G | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory Maybe they think that your mind is so fixed that they don't want to expend the energy on a site which is about swinging? Just a thought G" ok but this forum is about Sadiq Khan so we're talking about him | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory" It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. " In fairness, this chap did say he personally surveyed over 4000 people on the streets of London. Although none of them apparently supported Khan. | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. In fairness, this chap did say he personally surveyed over 4000 people on the streets of London. Although none of them apparently supported Khan." I remember that claim.. I suppose it is statistically plausible.. | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. " I already have asked people from my inner circle to the wider community near where I live | |||
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"Don’t know about others, but I am starting to get a sneaking feeling that Caribbean King doesn’t like Sadiq Khan (or Labour) very much. Not sure why? Call it a hunch " it's not that I don't like Sadiq Khan but I don't think his a good Mayor at all. Labour on the other hand are not Labour of old | |||
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"Wow bumping a very old thread. He still lives rent free in your mind I see" His a liability for London not an asset | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. I already have asked people from my inner circle to the wider community near where I live " Do you think they were all honest with you..? | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. I already have asked people from my inner circle to the wider community near where I live Do you think they were all honest with you..?" I think most people were genuine about their opinion of him on how crap he his although obviously I came across people who like him too | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. I already have asked people from my inner circle to the wider community near where I live " So are we talking hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands opinions..? | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. I already have asked people from my inner circle to the wider community near where I live Do you think they were all honest with you..? I think most people were genuine about their opinion of him on how crap he his although obviously I came across people who like him too" Thought you said you had spoken to 4000 people before the Mayoral election and they all said they wouldn't vote for him? | |||
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"Apparently this project would cost £150M. Sadiq says it would be partly covered by local businesses. Yeah they will For someone who keeps throwing tantrums about not getting enough funds to fix major issues in the city, he seems to be wasting too much money on shit no one asked for. Like throwing 6M pounds on rebranding the Overground lines. And now this. And people still don't see him for the fraud that he is? Im just baffled on why people voted for him for the third time as Mayor but cant justify or articulate their reasons for it other then he isn't Tory It's a valid question for you, no doubt driven by what seems to be an obsession about him but you might have more of a response asking in the London forum or even asking people locally to where you live.. I already have asked people from my inner circle to the wider community near where I live Do you think they were all honest with you..? I think most people were genuine about their opinion of him on how crap he his although obviously I came across people who like him too Thought you said you had spoken to 4000 people before the Mayoral election and they all said they wouldn't vote for him?" Yeah i have from 2020 so 4 years until just after the last Mayoral election. It's impossible to speak to 4000 in a couple of weeks. Also I said most not all of the 4000 people I've spoken to said they don't like or would vote for Sadiq Khan. So while 4000 people doesn't reflect the wider population of London it does make me wonder who really is voting for him | |||
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