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Will uk get a trade deal with the usa?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought it would be a done deal or isnt it clear as that what is the latest about it?"
Not looked it up but two things are for sure
1. The UK will negotiate a trade agreement with the USA
2. The UK will be negotiating from a weak position to start with and could become weaker still depending on what Boris does between tradewise between the EU / WTO etc etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought it would be a done deal or isnt it clear as that what is the latest about it?
Not looked it up but two things are for sure
1. The UK will negotiate a trade agreement with the USA
2. The UK will be negotiating from a weak position to start with and could become weaker still depending on what Boris does between tradewise between the EU / WTO etc etc"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Years of negotiations on this. "
Yes it probably will, cos it sounded like a very easy deal to get as trump said that if you leave the eu you have a deal with us straight away. I guess it will not be that clear cut by the sound of it.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I thought it would be a done deal or isnt it clear as that what is the latest about it?
Not looked it up but two things are for sure
1. The UK will negotiate a trade agreement with the USA
2. The UK will be negotiating from a weak position to start with and could become weaker still depending on what Boris does between tradewise between the EU / WTO etc etc
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Yes and I guess that the usa will have the upper hand to call the shots here too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought it would be a done deal or isnt it clear as that what is the latest about it?
Not looked it up but two things are for sure
1. The UK will negotiate a trade agreement with the USA
2. The UK will be negotiating from a weak position to start with and could become weaker still depending on what Boris does between tradewise between the EU / WTO etc etc"
Spot on. No wonder Trump was so keen on the UK leaving the EU  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought it would be a done deal or isnt it clear as that what is the latest about it?
Not looked it up but two things are for sure
1. The UK will negotiate a trade agreement with the USA
2. The UK will be negotiating from a weak position to start with and could become weaker still depending on what Boris does between tradewise between the EU / WTO etc etc
Spot on. No wonder Trump was so keen on the UK leaving the EU "
No wonder US corporations donated so much cash to the leave campaigns. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Easiest way to do things is have tariffs on all goods in all directions no need to sell any family jewellery just to get a deal "
So everything will be more expensive for the consumer? Great news |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Easiest way to do things is have tariffs on all goods in all directions no need to sell any family jewellery just to get a deal
So everything will be more expensive for the consumer? Great news "
For rich people it won't make any difference  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Easiest way to do things is have tariffs on all goods in all directions no need to sell any family jewellery just to get a deal "
I wonder why nearly every single country in the world does not follow the above "easiest way to do things"
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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we will get the deal that farage boris and there city chums are happy with and fuck the rest of us and anybody who thinks the whole Brexit project was about anything else is even more gullible than most |
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If some desperate fool was willing to sign whatever is put in front of them, it's perhaps one of the easiest things to do. Get your pen out ready.
The UK/USA agreement will likely need the UK to lose some sovereignty but that sort of thing never bothers people. An independent tribunal will adjudicate any disagreements between the UK and any US company etc that sues us, as the UK courts will be irrelevant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"we will get the deal that farage boris and there city chums are happy with and fuck the rest of us and anybody who thinks the whole Brexit project was about anything else is even more gullible than most "
People are still trying to argue that Brexit it a good idea for the rest of us. Beggars belief. |
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"Easiest way to do things is have tariffs on all goods in all directions no need to sell any family jewellery just to get a deal
So everything will be more expensive for the consumer? Great news "
What did you expect? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is no argument . We have left the EU. No one knows how it will develop. The only sure thing is it is in The hands of the British people "
For sure, I heard that some idiots believe this kind of nonsence.
Beggars belief. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is no argument . We have left the EU. No one knows how it will develop. The only sure thing is it is in The hands of the British people "
The British people?? Haha, that is comedy gold |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Easiest way to do things is have tariffs on all goods in all directions no need to sell any family jewellery just to get a deal
So everything will be more expensive for the consumer? Great news
What did you expect?"
I was told Brexit will be the promised land, easy trade deals, billions of pounds of extra cash ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Easiest way to do things is have tariffs on all goods in all directions no need to sell any family jewellery just to get a deal
So everything will be more expensive for the consumer? Great news
What did you expect?
I was told Brexit will be the promised land, easy trade deals, billions of pounds of extra cash ? "
Along with 17 million other people  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It looks very bleak now as wheather the uk will get a deal or not with them as boris said no to a meeting with trump because he wanted the uk to have the 5g network. I think it is the chinese that have it so they could spy with it. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
nice to finally see some honesty out of the government trade deal....
using their own figures, and confirmed by international trade sec, Liz truss, a "uk-us trade deal" would likely increase GDP by 0.16%....
shame a no deal/WTO agreement with the the EU would decrease GDP by anywhere between 4.9% and 7.6%......
but yey!!!!!.............. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"nice to finally see some honesty out of the government trade deal....
using their own figures, and confirmed by international trade sec, Liz truss, a "uk-us trade deal" would likely increase GDP by 0.16%....
shame a no deal/WTO agreement with the the EU would decrease GDP by anywhere between 4.9% and 7.6%......
but yey!!!!!.............."
Another Brexit bonus |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"nice to finally see some honesty out of the government trade deal....
using their own figures, and confirmed by international trade sec, Liz truss, a "uk-us trade deal" would likely increase GDP by 0.16%....
shame a no deal/WTO agreement with the the EU would decrease GDP by anywhere between 4.9% and 7.6%......
but yey!!!!!.............."
It's what the people voted for |
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"nice to finally see some honesty out of the government trade deal....
using their own figures, and confirmed by international trade sec, Liz truss, a "uk-us trade deal" would likely increase GDP by 0.16%....
shame a no deal/WTO agreement with the the EU would decrease GDP by anywhere between 4.9% and 7.6%......
but yey!!!!!..............
It's what the people voted for "
They did not know,what they were voting for were lied to and fell for it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"nice to finally see some honesty out of the government trade deal....
using their own figures, and confirmed by international trade sec, Liz truss, a "uk-us trade deal" would likely increase GDP by 0.16%....
shame a no deal/WTO agreement with the the EU would decrease GDP by anywhere between 4.9% and 7.6%......
but yey!!!!!..............
It's what the people voted for
They did not know,what they were voting for were lied to and fell for it. "
That is right they didnt know what they were voting for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"we will get the deal that farage boris and there city chums are happy with and fuck the rest of us and anybody who thinks the whole Brexit project was about anything else is even more gullible than most "
Dont include me when you say "fuck the rest of us"
I will get by very well, was happy to vote for Brexit and happy with all so far
p.s.
the World hasnt come to an end.  |
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I believe we will yes, however this depends if the democrats retain the house in Nov 2020 as the dems will not give the UK or Trump another win (back of the queue etc)
If the Dems do retain the house then it will be 4 more years of Russia bad, Ukraine bad, orange man bad, impeach impeach, and countless other wedge issues.
If the house flips Republican then yes , we will get a deal. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"I believe we will yes, however this depends if the democrats retain the house in Nov 2020 as the dems will not give the UK or Trump another win (back of the queue etc)
If the Dems do retain the house then it will be 4 more years of Russia bad, Ukraine bad, orange man bad, impeach impeach, and countless other wedge issues.
If the house flips Republican then yes , we will get a deal. "
Of course we will get a trade deal and it really does not matter about the politics.
All that matters is that the US will change their current trading deficit with the UK to a trading surplus and the U.K. will see a long term benefit of between 0.1% and 0.2% of GDP.
Bearing in mind that leaving the EU under any circumstances at all will see a hit to GDP of anywhere between 4% and 8% - depending on who is asked and the nature of the future deal.
Caveat to add that the Government dispute the leaving figures but will not release their own. Odd huh? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"I believe we will yes, however this depends if the democrats retain the house in Nov 2020 as the dems will not give the UK or Trump another win (back of the queue etc)
If the Dems do retain the house then it will be 4 more years of Russia bad, Ukraine bad, orange man bad, impeach impeach, and countless other wedge issues.
If the house flips Republican then yes , we will get a deal.
Of course we will get a trade deal and it really does not matter about the politics.
All that matters is that the US will change their current trading deficit with the UK to a trading surplus and the U.K. will see a long term benefit of between 0.1% and 0.2% of GDP.
Bearing in mind that leaving the EU under any circumstances at all will see a hit to GDP of anywhere between 4% and 8% - depending on who is asked and the nature of the future deal.
Caveat to add that the Government dispute the leaving figures but will not release their own. Odd huh?"
Last time I looked the percent of uk gdp that came from trade with the EU was 8% so are you supporting the idea that we wont trade at all with the eu from the end of the year ? Now that is project fear turbo charged. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
"I believe we will yes, however this depends if the democrats retain the house in Nov 2020 as the dems will not give the UK or Trump another win (back of the queue etc)
If the Dems do retain the house then it will be 4 more years of Russia bad, Ukraine bad, orange man bad, impeach impeach, and countless other wedge issues.
If the house flips Republican then yes , we will get a deal.
Of course we will get a trade deal and it really does not matter about the politics.
All that matters is that the US will change their current trading deficit with the UK to a trading surplus and the U.K. will see a long term benefit of between 0.1% and 0.2% of GDP.
Bearing in mind that leaving the EU under any circumstances at all will see a hit to GDP of anywhere between 4% and 8% - depending on who is asked and the nature of the future deal.
Caveat to add that the Government dispute the leaving figures but will not release their own. Odd huh?
Last time I looked the percent of uk gdp that came from trade with the EU was 8% so are you supporting the idea that we wont trade at all with the eu from the end of the year ? Now that is project fear turbo charged. "
That is a somewhat stereotypical one-dimensional thought process and a perfect illustration of how wrong it is to try to simplify complex issues.
Direct trade with the EU accounts for approximately 8% of UK GDP, disruption of that trade will directly affect it and the second, third and even fourth tier behind that. The loss of all EU trade would probably knock back around 20-25% of GDP because of secondary shock to the economy.
An example of how the problems might suddenly escalate would be to imagine how your totally balanced household budget would be affected if you both lost your jobs as your budget outgoings mounted and your ability to pay faltered and required you to look at secondary borrowing to meet your obligations.
The sink drains away very fast. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"I believe we will yes, however this depends if the democrats retain the house in Nov 2020 as the dems will not give the UK or Trump another win (back of the queue etc)
If the Dems do retain the house then it will be 4 more years of Russia bad, Ukraine bad, orange man bad, impeach impeach, and countless other wedge issues.
If the house flips Republican then yes , we will get a deal.
Of course we will get a trade deal and it really does not matter about the politics.
All that matters is that the US will change their current trading deficit with the UK to a trading surplus and the U.K. will see a long term benefit of between 0.1% and 0.2% of GDP.
Bearing in mind that leaving the EU under any circumstances at all will see a hit to GDP of anywhere between 4% and 8% - depending on who is asked and the nature of the future deal.
Caveat to add that the Government dispute the leaving figures but will not release their own. Odd huh?
Last time I looked the percent of uk gdp that came from trade with the EU was 8% so are you supporting the idea that we wont trade at all with the eu from the end of the year ? Now that is project fear turbo charged.
That is a somewhat stereotypical one-dimensional thought process and a perfect illustration of how wrong it is to try to simplify complex issues.
Direct trade with the EU accounts for approximately 8% of UK GDP, disruption of that trade will directly affect it and the second, third and even fourth tier behind that. The loss of all EU trade would probably knock back around 20-25% of GDP because of secondary shock to the economy.
An example of how the problems might suddenly escalate would be to imagine how your totally balanced household budget would be affected if you both lost your jobs as your budget outgoings mounted and your ability to pay faltered and required you to look at secondary borrowing to meet your obligations.
The sink drains away very fast."
Well even the pessimistic forecasts are nowhere near yours, imvho the downturn in Eu land and world wide will have more potential to damage uk plc than wto trade with europe, but of course it will be blamed on brexit, |
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