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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport. "
The EU flag is also the flag of the Council of Europe, of which the UK is still a member. It should still be flown quite rightly and proudly. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport. "
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
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There very likely will be one day. |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
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There might be one day. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"There is a street in Liverpool flying the EU flag and says it is staying in the EU what a bunch of morons lol
Why should they take it down?"
If you still have your Christmas decorations up people would think you stupid so would you,I do not think so,it is childish |
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"There is a street in Liverpool flying the EU flag and says it is staying in the EU what a bunch of morons lol
Why should they take it down?If you still have your Christmas decorations up people would think you stupid so would you,I do not think so,it is childish"
Have we left the council of europe then? |
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"There is a street in Liverpool flying the EU flag and says it is staying in the EU what a bunch of morons lol
Why should they take it down?
If you still have your Christmas decorations up people would think you stupid so would you,I do not think so,it is childish"
Ahh people not understanding as per  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's still flying because the UK is still a member of The Council of Europe
I think some leavers seem to think Brexit was all about leaving The Council of Europe too  |
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"There is a street in Liverpool flying the EU flag and says it is staying in the EU what a bunch of morons lol
Why should they take it down?If you still have your Christmas decorations up people would think you stupid so would you,I do not think so,it is childish"
Are you planning on spitting on them? |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day."
hopefully |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully "
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move! |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!"
Great move from the Dutch. |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!"
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave."
False. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/04/no-to-nexit-dutch-most-likely-to-vote-to-stay-in-the-eu/ |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????"
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave."
Who taught you to invent such stupidity and lies? boris or farage? |
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking."
so your on same page as me with the scots then if they want to leave let them ? If they have there vote and it’s 52/48 to leave should they have another vote or just leave ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You've just got to hope the electorate are told the truth about the consequences of either decision but going by the last referendum I won't hold my breath  |
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking. so your on same page as me with the scots then if they want to leave let them ? If they have there vote and it’s 52/48 to leave should they have another vote or just leave ?"
I am sure they will make the referendum legally binding rather than advisory , so 52/48 is fine |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking. so your on same page as me with the scots then if they want to leave let them ? If they have there vote and it’s 52/48 to leave should they have another vote or just leave ?"
I think that if there is a 52/48 vote in favour of leaving then Sturgeon will act in a way that May and Johnson didn’t act and she will push for devolution Max with a guarantee of holding a further referendum in five years time.
She will use what the Tories did as a beating stick against them to draw out huge concessions from them. She probably won’t want to leave with a divisive small majority but she will derive maximum benefit from the vote for Scotland.
As I said before and after the Brexit referendum, a small majority either way is not a mandate to make huge constitutional changes. After the Brexit referendum Cameron should have stayed on and made a quick decision to leave the political constructs of the European Union, but stay in the CU and SM with a provision to review that situation after 10 years. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking. so your on same page as me with the scots then if they want to leave let them ? If they have there vote and it’s 52/48 to leave should they have another vote or just leave ?
I think that if there is a 52/48 vote in favour of leaving then Sturgeon will act in a way that May and Johnson didn’t act and she will push for devolution Max with a guarantee of holding a further referendum in five years time.
She will use what the Tories did as a beating stick against them to draw out huge concessions from them. She probably won’t want to leave with a divisive small majority but she will derive maximum benefit from the vote for Scotland.
As I said before and after the Brexit referendum, a small majority either way is not a mandate to make huge constitutional changes. After the Brexit referendum Cameron should have stayed on and made a quick decision to leave the political constructs of the European Union, but stay in the CU and SM with a provision to review that situation after 10 years."
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She's an out and out proven liar like her predecessor who will stop at nothing for power.
#the EU have left the lights on for us, oh wait no that's a firm I hired to do it. |
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking. so your on same page as me with the scots then if they want to leave let them ? If they have there vote and it’s 52/48 to leave should they have another vote or just leave ?
I think that if there is a 52/48 vote in favour of leaving then Sturgeon will act in a way that May and Johnson didn’t act and she will push for devolution Max with a guarantee of holding a further referendum in five years time.
She will use what the Tories did as a beating stick against them to draw out huge concessions from them. She probably won’t want to leave with a divisive small majority but she will derive maximum benefit from the vote for Scotland.
As I said before and after the Brexit referendum, a small majority either way is not a mandate to make huge constitutional changes. After the Brexit referendum Cameron should have stayed on and made a quick decision to leave the political constructs of the European Union, but stay in the CU and SM with a provision to review that situation after 10 years."
so are you for them leaving or not then if that’s what they want ? |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Scotland wants independence then wants to join the EU?
Doh! ??????
Some people (rather too many actually) seem unwilling to even try to accept that the U.K. was an equal partner in the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world. There was no independence by leaving the EU - just a huge loss to all of us in order to appease some misguided, Nationalist jingoism.
The Scots quite rightly want to still be a partner in that European political and economic union but to do that, they now have to break free from the undemocratic union in which the Government is forcing them to stay.
The Scots are being forced to stay in an undemocratic union. Do you not see the difference between the unequal United Kingdom and the politically balanced European Union?
Try thinking. so your on same page as me with the scots then if they want to leave let them ? If they have there vote and it’s 52/48 to leave should they have another vote or just leave ?
I think that if there is a 52/48 vote in favour of leaving then Sturgeon will act in a way that May and Johnson didn’t act and she will push for devolution Max with a guarantee of holding a further referendum in five years time.
She will use what the Tories did as a beating stick against them to draw out huge concessions from them. She probably won’t want to leave with a divisive small majority but she will derive maximum benefit from the vote for Scotland.
As I said before and after the Brexit referendum, a small majority either way is not a mandate to make huge constitutional changes. After the Brexit referendum Cameron should have stayed on and made a quick decision to leave the political constructs of the European Union, but stay in the CU and SM with a provision to review that situation after 10 years. so are you for them leaving or not then if that’s what they want ?"
From a personal point of view, I would like to think that the United Kingdom is a Union that Scotland and Wales would want to be a part of. Forcing the Scots to stay is a failure of UK Governance and id the Scots do vote to leave I would wish them good luck and ask questions as to how any sitting UK Government could enable circumstances to develop to fracture the last vestiges of the Kingdom. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland. "
One of the main arguments for Scotland staying in the union is no longer valid, in case you haven't noticed  so it's not surprising another vote is being asked for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland. "
Has anything moderately changed in the United Kingdom since 2014, do you think? |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland. "
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly. |
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly."
I wanted to leave so did the majority of people in my home town.
It's all just speculation until a democratic vote happens........
Which it did in 2014 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Indeed and now the landscape has changed so much I believe there is a mandate to ask the people of Scotland again if they still wish to remain in the UK. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
I wanted to leave so did the majority of people in my home town.
It's all just speculation until a democratic vote happens........
Which it did in 2014 "
So does a 2014 vote mean the decision is settled forever then? |
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
I wanted to leave so did the majority of people in my home town.
It's all just speculation until a democratic vote happens........
Which it did in 2014
So does a 2014 vote mean the decision is settled forever then?"
Looks that way now doesn't it. |
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By *ibobbiMan
over a year ago
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"Indeed and now the landscape has changed so much I believe there is a mandate to ask the people of Scotland again if they still wish to remain in the UK. "
then when they lose again will we have to go through with another vote until they win i think she is still salmonds puppet
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Indeed and now the landscape has changed so much I believe there is a mandate to ask the people of Scotland again if they still wish to remain in the UK.
then when they lose again will we have to go through with another vote until they win i think she is still salmonds puppet "
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By (user no longer on site)
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OK, obviously need to explain it
Scotlands independence referendum 2014 - One of the main arguments for remaining in the union was its the only way to stay in the EU.
That argument is now void, that argument may have swung the vote in remains favour but now it's been taken out of the equation meaning many who voted remain in the union to stay in the EU may well now want to leave the UK. |
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That exercise in democracy was abused corrupted by the WM government's interference and false promises. Threats of being bombed, wheeling out the supposedly impartial queen to commit treason (in her duties to the sovereign rights of the people of Scotland) by indicating her preference, Cameron urging foreign heads of state to interfere by coming out against independence, promising that a vote to remain was also a vote to remain in the EC and finally, when an eve of vote poll showed a majority in favour of independence, contravening the electoral laws by wheeling out the scoundrel Gordon Brown to make the infamous vow of maximum devolution.
Some democracy!
There is no reason, if one believes in democracy, why this question should not be added on to every GE vote.
And, if their motives are upright, there is no reason why the rest of Britain should not be entirely relaxed about a nation deciding that self-government is a natural state of affairs.
Anyone who would deny individuals and countries the right to self determination is an abuser. |
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At the end of the day the powers that be have decided not the public.
Scotland was never going to get independence as the UK super tycoons and media moguls were not going to let that happen.
Do you really think those in the upper echelons of the UK government would let Scotland do there own thing and leave the United Kindom?
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You can be in favour of being governed by another country, if you are so inclined. (no shortage of uncle jocks, sadly).
But, unless you are a FASCIST (like Lisa "cosh them" Nandy), you can not be against asking the people in a vote, with every new electorate enjoying that right. |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There might be one day. "
And if/when there is Scotland could apply to join....its a simple 10 yr process from start to end. They wouldnt need to do much...
Just agree to join the Euro, Bring their debt/gdp ratio down with massive austerity cuts as no longer subsidised by rest of UK etc.
Good luck with that. |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There might be one day.
And if/when there is Scotland could apply to join....its a simple 10 yr process from start to end. They wouldnt need to do much...
Just agree to join the Euro, Bring their debt/gdp ratio down with massive austerity cuts as no longer subsidised by rest of UK etc.
Good luck with that."
The financial reparations for decades of plundered oil revenues redirected towards spending in England will be substantial.
RUK, with an already massive debt, may struggle to make the payments, however. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There might be one day.
And if/when there is Scotland could apply to join....its a simple 10 yr process from start to end. They wouldnt need to do much...
Just agree to join the Euro, Bring their debt/gdp ratio down with massive austerity cuts as no longer subsidised by rest of UK etc.
Good luck with that."
What exactly is wrong with the Euro as a currency? |
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" What exactly is wrong with the Euro as a currency? "
Strong and stable is so passe.
As with so many other things, the tories are happy with a currency falling on its arse. Their speculator friends and donors make lots of money when there is foreign exchange chaos.
Brexit was an example of a country committing seppuku, but the history of the tragic Pound over the past 30 years has been one of death by a thousand cuts.
Welcome to the UK. Our politicians love a race to the bottom... coming soon to food standards, civil rights legal protection and workers' employment rights. But we have "taken back control" so that's all right, then! |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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"Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave."
Nope.
Last poll found between 2 thirds and 3 quarters would vote to remain.
Highest polling a leave vote ever got was 48%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_withdrawal_from_the_European_Union
I'm curious, what was your source ? |
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
Has anything moderately changed in the United Kingdom since 2014, do you think? "
Oil has slumped, no longer $110 per barrel. |
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly."
Are you sure about that?
What we were told was that an independent Scotland would not be in the EU.
I find it strange that independence supporters are crying about leaving the EU now, when they didn't care in 2014. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
Are you sure about that?
What we were told was that an independent Scotland would not be in the EU.
I find it strange that independence supporters are crying about leaving the EU now, when they didn't care in 2014. "
Who said scotland will not be in EU ? |
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The eu would welcome Scotland into the dictatorship...they meet the criteria....without England Wales etc they will be skint in no time so another shit country offering nothing joins the eu gravy train .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
Are you sure about that?
What we were told was that an independent Scotland would not be in the EU.
I find it strange that independence supporters are crying about leaving the EU now, when they didn't care in 2014. "
I think you'll find there's a fundamental difference between your comparisons
Scotland very well may have had to leave the EU whilst leaving the UK if they'd voted for independence but once they'd left the UK Scotland then would of been able to seek EU membership in their own right.
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"The eu would welcome Scotland into the dictatorship...they meet the criteria....without England Wales etc they will be skint in no time so another shit country offering nothing joins the eu gravy train ...."
If the EU is a dictatorship, surely they wouldn’t allow a member the opportunity to leave, right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We bucked the trend guy ...and let's see who else follows...many dictatorships fail in the end ...check history"
You didn’t answer the question. Try again. |
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A dictatorship in name. An Unreasonable, undemocratic organisation who pulled every dirty trick in the book to try to stop one of their biggest cash cows from leaving. Because they know now that others will follow. Without the EU, France for one will become an impoverished backward state |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They did not let us leave the people voted and demanded to leave ..with or without a deal ....what do you understand about the democratic system..."
I understand that article 50 is an EU protocol that allows members to leave. Which is a bit of a strange thing for a ‘dictatorship’ to have. |
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"A dictatorship in name. An Unreasonable, undemocratic organisation who pulled every dirty trick in the book to try to stop one of their biggest cash cows from leaving. Because they know now that others will follow. Without the EU, France for one will become an impoverished backward state "
Others will follow?
EU support is up across the whole block since June 2016.
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
Are you sure about that?
What we were told was that an independent Scotland would not be in the EU.
I find it strange that independence supporters are crying about leaving the EU now, when they didn't care in 2014.
Who said scotland will not be in EU ?"
The EU commission, in official correspondence to the Scottish Parliament.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.parliament.scot/S4_EuropeanandExternalRelationsCommittee/Inquiries/Letter_from_Viviane_Reding_Vice_President_of_the_European_Commission_dated_20_March_2014__pdf.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil04m8w7_nAhXHPsAKHcqvAg4QFjAAegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw2GtRZVPt7BQyyKeZ2poP4T |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave."
50%and rising anti EU feeling growing all over Europe,we did not mean to but we have probably destroyed the EU in the long term |
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
Are you sure about that?
What we were told was that an independent Scotland would not be in the EU.
I find it strange that independence supporters are crying about leaving the EU now, when they didn't care in 2014.
Who said scotland will not be in EU ?
The EU commission, in official correspondence to the Scottish Parliament.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.parliament.scot/S4_EuropeanandExternalRelationsCommittee/Inquiries/Letter_from_Viviane_Reding_Vice_President_of_the_European_Commission_dated_20_March_2014__pdf.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil04m8w7_nAhXHPsAKHcqvAg4QFjAAegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw2GtRZVPt7BQyyKeZ2poP4T"
Never asked for a link i asked you to answer so ? |
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"The eu would welcome Scotland into the dictatorship...they meet the criteria....without England Wales etc they will be skint in no time so another shit country offering nothing joins the eu gravy train ...."
I think youl find it will be england who will be bankrupt once they dont have scotlands resources to use,thats why they are doing their utmost to try stop us from leaving |
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I wouldn’t call whisky a resource lol. I must have read a hundred economic forecasts on what would happen should Scotland become independent and 99 state that Scotland couldn’t afford a deep fried mars bar by themselves |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.50%and rising anti EU feeling growing all over Europe,we did not mean to but we have probably destroyed the EU in the long term"
68% public support for the EU across the EU27 nations. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.50%and rising anti EU feeling growing all over Europe,we did not mean to but we have probably destroyed the EU in the long term
68% public support for the EU across the EU27 nations. "
I wonder if that will hold out after the new budget? people paying in instead of taking out. |
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"I wouldn’t call whisky a resource lol. I must have read a hundred economic forecasts on what would happen should Scotland become independent and 99 state that Scotland couldn’t afford a deep fried mars bar by themselves"
For many good reasons, I doubt the accuracy of this comment.
An independent Scotland will, undoubtedly, have its difficulties - all countries do. However, if New Zealand - a country with a similarly sized population and economy - can be independent on the other side of the world; is it really impossible that an independent Scotland, relatively close to Europe, isn't viable?
That doesn't seem logical. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.50%and rising anti EU feeling growing all over Europe,we did not mean to but we have probably destroyed the EU in the long term
68% public support for the EU across the EU27 nations. I wonder if that will hold out after the new budget? people paying in instead of taking out."
Most people in the world generally and in Europe particularly are not as selfish thinking as many Brits appear to have become. |
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"Forcing?
There was a vote on it, in case you forgot.
Over two million rejected independence in favour of the Union, the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of Scotland.
That is simply making an argument for the sake of arguing. Scots people by and large wanted to stay in the EU and were told that the best chance of that happening was stay in the United Kingdom. This was a major part of Indyref.
I think there will now be a narrow margin the leave and Sturgeon will use that to beat the Tories over the head mercilessly.
Are you sure about that?
What we were told was that an independent Scotland would not be in the EU.
I find it strange that independence supporters are crying about leaving the EU now, when they didn't care in 2014.
Who said scotland will not be in EU ?
The EU commission, in official correspondence to the Scottish Parliament.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.parliament.scot/S4_EuropeanandExternalRelationsCommittee/Inquiries/Letter_from_Viviane_Reding_Vice_President_of_the_European_Commission_dated_20_March_2014__pdf.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil04m8w7_nAhXHPsAKHcqvAg4QFjAAegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw2GtRZVPt7BQyyKeZ2poP4T
Never asked for a link i asked you to answer so ?"
The VP of the EU commission, did you read the link? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.50%and rising anti EU feeling growing all over Europe,we did not mean to but we have probably destroyed the EU in the long term
68% public support for the EU across the EU27 nations. I wonder if that will hold out after the new budget? people paying in instead of taking out.
Most people in the world generally and in Europe particularly are not as selfish thinking as many Brits appear to have become."
The uk tax payer gives more in aid as a % of GDP than most eu countries and as individuals we give more than any other eu country and are about 6th in the world, ireland had a good year for giving a year ago but as a rule are behind us |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.50%and rising anti EU feeling growing all over Europe,we did not mean to but we have probably destroyed the EU in the long term
68% public support for the EU across the EU27 nations. I wonder if that will hold out after the new budget? people paying in instead of taking out.
Most people in the world generally and in Europe particularly are not as selfish thinking as many Brits appear to have become."
Selfish? most people in the world want their governments to put them 1st i would think nothing selfish about that. |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.
False. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/04/no-to-nexit-dutch-most-likely-to-vote-to-stay-in-the-eu/"
Brexiters will point out that the article is over a year old and when the dutch see what a success the Brits are making out of it they will rush to ditch the EU along with all the other countries.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.
False. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/04/no-to-nexit-dutch-most-likely-to-vote-to-stay-in-the-eu/
Brexiters will point out that the article is over a year old and when the dutch see what a success the Brits are making out of it they will rush to ditch the EU along with all the other countries.
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Why do think that brexiteers want the eu to fail? |
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport.
There is no such thing as a Scottish passport
There very likely will be one day. hopefully
Dutch town flying the Saltire instead of the Union Jack. Great move!
Over 50% of Dutch voters want to leave the EU. Wonder what flag they will choose to fly then. Not that they are likely to be given a vote on the option to leave.
False. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/04/no-to-nexit-dutch-most-likely-to-vote-to-stay-in-the-eu/
Brexiters will point out that the article is over a year old and when the dutch see what a success the Brits are making out of it they will rush to ditch the EU along with all the other countries.
Why do think that brexiteers want the eu to fail? "
Not all do.
But certainly some posters on here are desperate for the EU to fail. I would guess it's so they can feel justified in voting leave. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport. "
Absolute embarrassment. Cucks. |
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By *anxmann55Man
over a year ago
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Let scotland have its independence and rejoin EU...mark my words England & Wales wont be the only country too leave the EU scotlands wants tobe ruled by EU.so scotland depart yourself from rest of England & Wales there will be a boarder between England and Scotland wont beable moue freely on the English boarder after christmas2020 company's will moue to England &Wales ...more jobs for the English & Welsh.no turning back no funds from WM.Dublin prime example so expensive to live there because part of the EU..... |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Let scotland have its independence and rejoin EU...mark my words England & Wales wont be the only country too leave the EU scotlands wants tobe ruled by EU.so scotland depart yourself from rest of England & Wales there will be a boarder between England and Scotland wont beable moue freely on the English boarder after christmas2020 company's will moue to England &Wales ...more jobs for the English & Welsh.no turning back no funds from WM.Dublin prime example so expensive to live there because part of the EU....."
Oh dear... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let scotland have its independence and rejoin EU...mark my words England & Wales wont be the only country too leave the EU scotlands wants tobe ruled by EU.so scotland depart yourself from rest of England & Wales there will be a boarder between England and Scotland wont beable moue freely on the English boarder after christmas2020 company's will moue to England &Wales ...more jobs for the English & Welsh.no turning back no funds from WM.Dublin prime example so expensive to live there because part of the EU.....
Oh dear..."
Did you actually understand the rambling |
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By *anxmann55Man
over a year ago
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Absolutely...time will tell EU is not all its cracked upto be...I am part of the 52% Brexiteer get out of the club not working for BRITAIN.people given the opportunity too vote people spoke DEMOCRATICALLY...52% in Scotland there more people voted too leave the EU than there was voting SNP.... |
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"Let scotland have its independence and rejoin EU...mark my words England & Wales wont be the only country too leave the EU scotlands wants tobe ruled by EU.so scotland depart yourself from rest of England & Wales there will be a boarder between England and Scotland wont beable moue freely on the English boarder after christmas2020 company's will moue to England &Wales ...more jobs for the English & Welsh.no turning back no funds from WM.Dublin prime example so expensive to live there because part of the EU....."
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"It's very easy for everyone ...let the Scottish...stay in the eu ....and all moaning remoaners can fuck off north of the border ...see everyone wins then...happy days"
This is a great idea. Leave all the confused and ignorant people in one place and the rest of us can crack on. |
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I think the idiots ...in there old bangers ...heading to the promised land with the poison dwarf in charge ...let the great english build a big wall to stop them coming back when the one trick pony leaves scotland on its arse |
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"It's very easy for everyone ...let the Scottish...stay in the eu ....and all moaning remoaners can fuck off north of the border ...see everyone wins then...happy days
This is a great idea. Leave all the confused and ignorant people in one place and the rest of us can crack on."
I see you are reverting back to your usual of insulting people because they have a difference in opinion from you.
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"It's very easy for everyone ...let the Scottish...stay in the eu ....and all moaning remoaners can fuck off north of the border ...see everyone wins then...happy days
This is a great idea. Leave all the confused and ignorant people in one place and the rest of us can crack on.
I see you are reverting back to your usual of insulting people because they have a difference in opinion from you.
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Hi.
I think you confused me with someone else.
I was making fun of the regular poster here who is openly confused about everything going on and makes wild inaccurate posts with little of no thought.
Can you really imagine a post Brexit England with all the remainers gone? |
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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago
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Anyone on here ever been in a decent job but fancied a change of job ?
Imagine your working for British Airways, for instance, but want to work for Jet2. You go for the interview it all goes well and the interviewer puts his arm round you at the end and says "hey we like you, pretty sure you have the job".
At that point do you go back to BA and hand in your notice ?
Or do you wait till the letter comes thro the door which confirms you have the job before handing in your notice ?
Think the second option is the most sensible ?
Well, look at this, the SNP want to leave to UK and all they have had is some guys in Brussels putting their arm round Nicola's shoulder and saying "of course we'll welcome you into the EU"
If I were a Scottish voter I'd want a written confirmation from each of the 27 EU Countries (as they all have to agree) that they would ALL agree to Scotland joining before I put my cross on the paper to leave the UK.
Think all 27 will do that ? Easy way to find out, get Nicola to ask them to do it. I won't hold my breath on that ! |
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By *andm288Couple
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport. "
Don’t think they meet the fiscal policy to join |
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By *andm288Couple
over a year ago
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"Well done Scotland glad they are able to keep the EU flag flying over Holyrood and would be welcome with open arms back in the EU.
Think we will apply fo a Scottish passport. "
Don’t think they meet the fiscal policy to join |
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"as a scots man and a exsoldier the union jack will always fly on my pole  "
Even I, a non-native, know what a Union Flag is but what is a Union Jack in the context of a swingers’ site? Is it code for something? |
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