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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Looks like the tories are rolling back on internal investigation into islamaphobia. 6 days after the election. What other promises will topple next? "
I don't know why they bother. Who gives a fuck what they do or say? People vote for them regardless. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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If you have ever read Spiked it is a forum with a diverse range of opinions, theories, articles and papers on as many subjects as you care to mention. Whilst some topics may be author opinion, most I'd suggest are aimed at challenging notion.
It is as far from a right wing platform as you can get. It's a long time since I read it but I think it's subheading had socialist in it somewhere. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it "
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Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?. |
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?."
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Phobia is an irrational fear of something.
I've no doubt there is fear amongst many people of Islamic terrorism.
For many, that manifests itself as general fear of the muslim religion, i.e. Islamophobia.
I've no doubt it played a part in the GE outcome.
Corbyn is anti-Establishment, which creates a perception of being sympathetic to causes hostile to the British state.
The perception of Islamophobia in the Conservative Party probably didn't do Johnson any harm. Quite the opposite. It probably chimed with majority opinion.
The perception of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party probably did do Corbyn harm, for the simple reason there is no evidence of Jewish extremists wanting to murder citizens on British streets.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Islamophobia, Antisemitism, racism are all forms of prejudice which assume the nature of a person based on their appearance or culture.
Condemning one form of intolerance whilst practising another is just being a hypocrite.
Well done to those who display open hatred towards Muslims. There is an extremist out there currently radicalising their youth and you've just made his job SO much easier. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience? "
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lets get this straight. We're English and we are perfect.
We hate the Nazi's because they put people in concentration camps, despite the fact that Lord Kitchener invented them years before, killing women & children.
We hate the racists although so much of our wealth was created through the slave trade.
We hate immigration although we over ran so many nations with 'colonisation'.
We hate foreigners even though so many of our expats live all over the world in other people's countries.
We criticize other countries on their human rights violations when it wasn't so long ago that we ourselves had homosexuality outlawed.
We mock the American right wing when we have our own home grown brand flourishing under our noses.
We as swingers expect to be accepted for our sexual choices but even within our community have sickening views on others orientations.
But hey. It isn't easy being so damned perfect! |
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something. "
I am no one to judge others. But yes it's refreshing to have some honesty for a change but at the same time the fact that people now think it's OK to be openly Islamophobic is scary. We're at the same point in German history where Jews had to wear 'Jude' on their clothes.
Miss C had a scarf over her head a while back because her head was cold and as she walked past a pub someone called out 'fucking Muslim'. For a second she got to feel what it's like.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something.
I am no one to judge others. But yes it's refreshing to have some honesty for a change but at the same time the fact that people now think it's OK to be openly Islamophobic is scary. We're at the same point in German history where Jews had to wear 'Jude' on their clothes.
Miss C had a scarf over her head a while back because her head was cold and as she walked past a pub someone called out 'fucking Muslim'. For a second she got to feel what it's like.
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Yeah that's also true. In times like these it's important for good people to speak up and call out bigotry, not just with the likes of the resident morons here (as fun as it is), but when we see it in real life. As in your example. I hope Miss C is okay.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something.
I am no one to judge others. But yes it's refreshing to have some honesty for a change but at the same time the fact that people now think it's OK to be openly Islamophobic is scary. We're at the same point in German history where Jews had to wear 'Jude' on their clothes.
Miss C had a scarf over her head a while back because her head was cold and as she walked past a pub someone called out 'fucking Muslim'. For a second she got to feel what it's like.
Yeah that's also true. In times like these it's important for good people to speak up and call out bigotry, not just with the likes of the resident morons here (as fun as it is), but when we see it in real life. As in your example. I hope Miss C is okay.
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Yeah she was shocked at first but thought it was funny later.
Two years ago I was hit with the norovirus. I came close to death but made the mistake of opening my mouth at the clinic. After hearing my accent we were thrown out. The clinic was empty. Not one person in it. The nurse spoke to Miss C like she was a stupid child "How long have you been here?" Miss C was born here. Again she got a taste of home grown xenophobia. I am a British citizen born outside the UK but often get asked how often I "go home".  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is good that they get investigated of it, it is abit rich of them to blame labour for anti semitism when the torys are worse for it.
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And also xenophobia for the torys. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looks like the tories are rolling back on internal investigation into islamaphobia. 6 days after the election. What other promises will topple next? "
As long as they deliver the Brexit, no one really cares about anything else.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something. "
I don't see calling him names helpful but I think it would be interesting to find out what causes people to feel and act islamophobic and presume the majority of the country is also the same. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Miss C had a scarf over her head a while back because her head was cold and as she walked past a pub someone called out 'fucking Muslim'. For a second she got to feel what it's like.
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Anecdotal, yes, but I get the impression there is a spike in the incidence of minorities being picked on since the GE election result, just as there was after the 2016 referendum result.
"Taking back our country" means different things to different people.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something.
I don't see calling him names helpful but I think it would be interesting to find out what causes people to feel and act islamophobic and presume the majority of the country is also the same. "
I have no love for Muslim extremists but am informed enough to know the difference between a Muslim and a Muslim extremists.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Miss C had a scarf over her head a while back because her head was cold and as she walked past a pub someone called out 'fucking Muslim'. For a second she got to feel what it's like.
Anecdotal, yes, but I get the impression there is a spike in the incidence of minorities being picked on since the GE election result, just as there was after the 2016 referendum result.
"Taking back our country" means different things to different people.
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Well I have just renewed my British passport meaning I have been in the UK for 10 years. I've never had someone actually attack me, until the run up to the election. It was funny on two fronts. First being that I was told to go back to my 'own country'. Already here mate. Second thinking he was going to beat the crap out of me  |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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If anyone want to go to the Spiked website where he wrote the article. They have just published an editorial on it. Here is an extract:
Singh’s neutrality [is] in question’ over his comments on Spiked that the Kashmir conflict is ‘not [a] Muslim-only tragedy’. Read that again. Let it sink in. Singh is being demonised and insulted online because he said that not only Muslims have suffered in Kashmir.
As said Spiked is an alternative journal, a sometimes philosophical approach, challenging modern social issues and spheres of thinking. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience? "
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No it's not, it's a made up word by the Muslim council in New York 15 years ago, it's designed to shut down those that wish to mock and criticise Islam a man made religion of which some say is the shittest idea ever dreamt up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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As for fearing Islam then dammed right I do, which religion doesn't seek unwanted influence or expansionism?.
We curtailed religious influence in the West many years ago and for the better, those that seek to undue should be everybody's enemy, especially you lot!!!. |
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something. "
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Oh no, name calling!.
I thought you were against that  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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To quote one of my "weak minded bigoted moronic" heroes.
It’s coming to a place near you.
The Qurans that are given out in our prison system, to Muslim prisoners by Muslim chaplains, paid for by Saudi Arabia, are Qurans written to the Wahabi tune. They’re not just your everyday Quran; they’re the Qurans that the Wahabis want you to read, containing direct incitement.
They’re being given out with taxpayers’ money in the prison system, where militias are forming. Next you’ll have militias of this kind with their own chaplains within the United States armed forces. Are you ready for that? Are you ready to have Wahabi preachers in the U.S. armed forces?
You better get ready for it, unless you’re going to take the James Madison view that there shouldn’t be any chaplains in the U.S. armed forces to begin with, or in the prison system. People want to pray, you can’t stop them. But we cannot have state subsidized prayer. We cannot have state subsidized preachers or chaplains.
Give it up, or give it to your deadliest enemy and pay for the rope that will ch@ke you.
This is very urgent business, ladies and gentlemen, I beseech you: resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is taken away from you, which is the next thing.
You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience?
At least he's honest about how much of a weak minded, petty, outdated, moronic bigot he is. That's something.
I don't see calling him names helpful but I think it would be interesting to find out what causes people to feel and act islamophobic and presume the majority of the country is also the same. "
Well I'm all for judging a person by the content of their character (rather than religion or akin colour). And am happy to be called out for name calling.
Although I would argue that in this context they're more descriptive terms than insulting. |
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You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I recall a piece of work carried out in Amsterdam.
Violent passages were read out and people on the street were asked where they came from - the Bible or the Koran.
Without exception, people said the Koran.
Without exception, they were from the Bible.
The problem isn't religion per se, it's those preachers of hate who latch onto specific texts to justify their extreme political ideology.
That was as a true for the Bible throughout history as it is today for the Koran.
Then there are those who are susceptible to these interpretations, who find inspiration as a means of escaping whatever misery is engulfing their hum-drum existence.
I like to think most people in the 1970s and 1980s were able to distinguish between Irish criminals and Irish citizens, and I'd like to think most people today can distinguish between muslim criminals and muslim citizens.
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"I recall a piece of work carried out in Amsterdam.
Violent passages were read out and people on the street were asked where they came from - the Bible or the Koran.
Without exception, people said the Koran.
Without exception, they were from the Bible.
The problem isn't religion per se, it's those preachers of hate who latch onto specific texts to justify their extreme political ideology.
That was as a true for the Bible throughout history as it is today for the Koran.
Then there are those who are susceptible to these interpretations, who find inspiration as a means of escaping whatever misery is engulfing their hum-drum existence.
I like to think most people in the 1970s and 1980s were able to distinguish between Irish criminals and Irish citizens, and I'd like to think most people today can distinguish between muslim criminals and muslim citizens.
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Find me somebody who's argued for blasphemy laws to be reintroduced for the church of England or Catholicism or Hinduism or Judaism.
The gates are being held open by the weak minded multiculturalists for the Islamists dogma and Sharia to pass through and I will resist it and you should to if you know what's good for you!.
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"You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”
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I only read the first line.
The only person here who called you islamaphobic, is........ Drum roll...... You. |
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This isn't about bombers, this about those that seek to teach their children known bigotry and wickedness because God said so, not because they find it distasteful or wrong but because God says punish the infidels.
We've already started on the inroads, you can get absolved of handling alcohol if you work for aldi, no ham products in Tesco, you get time out for preying to Mecca, no no no, you can do it on your own time, if you can't work in a school without/with a cross delete as applicable your in the wrong country.
There's neighborhoods in the UK right now being patrolled by Islamists who are firmly telling UK citizens what they can drink and what they can wear and who they can hold hands with and it's not happening on my watch.
So you whataboutery lot can do one. |
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"You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”
I only read the first line.
The only person here who called you islamaphobic, is........ Drum roll...... You."
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If you read it all you'll see line six applies to why I called myself an islamaphobe.
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I think "Islamaphobia" is a bit of a misnomer.
A phobia is an irrational fear of something.
When the followers of a religion fly aeroplanes into buildings, decapitate journalists and aid workers, stab people to death on the streets of London, drive trucks into crowds in Berlin and Barcelona, shoot hundreds to death in Paris Etc. Etc. All in the name of that religion. Then to be fearful of that religion is not a phobia.
That isn't saying that all followers of Islam are terrorists but none of them have good and bad stamped on their forehead. So to be fearful (cautious maybe) is quite rational. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Find me somebody who's argued for blasphemy laws to be reintroduced for the church of England or Catholicism or Hinduism or Judaism.
The gates are being held open by the weak minded multiculturalists for the Islamists dogma and Sharia to pass through and I will resist it and you should to if you know what's good for you!.
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Fear.
That's what you articulate.
A free society includes the freedom to practise religion, or not.
Are you arguing for the removal of people's freedom to choose their own religion?
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"I think "Islamaphobia" is a bit of a misnomer.
A phobia is an irrational fear of something.
When the followers of a religion fly aeroplanes into buildings, decapitate journalists and aid workers, stab people to death on the streets of London, drive trucks into crowds in Berlin and Barcelona, shoot hundreds to death in Paris Etc. Etc. All in the name of that religion. Then to be fearful of that religion is not a phobia.
That isn't saying that all followers of Islam are terrorists but none of them have good and bad stamped on their forehead. So to be fearful (cautious maybe) is quite rational."
Well said - you beat me to it
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Find me somebody who's argued for blasphemy laws to be reintroduced for the church of England or Catholicism or Hinduism or Judaism.
The gates are being held open by the weak minded multiculturalists for the Islamists dogma and Sharia to pass through and I will resist it and you should to if you know what's good for you!.
Fear.
That's what you articulate.
A free society includes the freedom to practise religion, or not.
Are you arguing for the removal of people's freedom to choose their own religion?
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You've obviously not read anything I wrote, in your own time and on your own property you can practice whatever witchcraft mumbojumbo hocus pocus you choose, that doesn't mean that in decent secular society we the sane should bend over and take it up the ass just so your feelings aren't hurt.
Freedom to practice means freedom to ridicule freedom to criticise and freedom to tell you to fuck off your in works time, if really really can't handle ham, this job ain't for you. |
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"So you are complaining about employers who try to accommodate people of different faiths and their beliefs?
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Oh absolutely, although that's just the tip of the iceberg really on my complaints about Islam, it's a hand chopping head looping homophobic masochistic medieval shit show that belongs somewhere in the 7th century of crazy bullshit and nobody would think twice about telling that to Mormons or Scientologists,oh I'm sorry I can't handle frozen carrots because the space ship hiding behind the comet is coming to pick me up.. Yadda yada shut the fuck up you maniac your fired should be the desired response. |
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"So you are complaining about employers who try to accommodate people of different faiths and their beliefs?
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Oh absolutely, although that's just the tip of the iceberg really on my complaints about Islam, it's a hand chopping head looping homophobic masochistic medieval shit show that belongs somewhere in the 7th century of crazy bullshit and nobody would think twice about telling that to Mormons or Scientologists,oh I'm sorry I can't handle frozen carrots because the space ship hiding behind the comet is coming to pick me up.. Yadda yada shut the fuck up you maniac your fired should be the desired response."
I have to ask. Frozen carrots? I'm baffled on this one. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
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"So you are complaining about employers who try to accommodate people of different faiths and their beliefs?
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Oh absolutely, although that's just the tip of the iceberg really on my complaints about Islam, it's a hand chopping head looping homophobic masochistic medieval shit show that belongs somewhere in the 7th century of crazy bullshit and nobody would think twice about telling that to Mormons or Scientologists,oh I'm sorry I can't handle frozen carrots because the space ship hiding behind the comet is coming to pick me up.. Yadda yada shut the fuck up you maniac your fired should be the desired response."
All I can say is I am very glad I do not work for you
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"So you are complaining about employers who try to accommodate people of different faiths and their beliefs?
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Oh absolutely, although that's just the tip of the iceberg really on my complaints about Islam, it's a hand chopping head looping homophobic masochistic medieval shit show that belongs somewhere in the 7th century of crazy bullshit and nobody would think twice about telling that to Mormons or Scientologists,oh I'm sorry I can't handle frozen carrots because the space ship hiding behind the comet is coming to pick me up.. Yadda yada shut the fuck up you maniac your fired should be the desired response.
I have to ask. Frozen carrots? I'm baffled on this one."
It's just a rant.
Nothing to see here, just move along. |
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"I'm too busy reading about the new disposable hijab for NHS nursing staff to care
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Does it mention frozen carrots? Or will that remain a mystery for the ages? |
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"I'm too busy reading about the new disposable hijab for NHS nursing staff to care
Does it mention frozen carrots? Or will that remain a mystery for the ages?"
Makes about as much sense as anything else that guy posts. |
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"This isn't about bombers, this about those that seek to teach their children known bigotry
Please define a bigot. What is bigotry?"
Maybe it's a frozen carrot! The mystery is starting to clear up! |
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"This isn't about bombers, this about those that seek to teach their children known bigotry
Please define a bigot. What is bigotry?
Maybe it's a frozen carrot! The mystery is starting to clear up!"
Short for big carot? |
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"This isn't about bombers, this about those that seek to teach their children known bigotry
Please define a bigot. What is bigotry?
Maybe it's a frozen carrot! The mystery is starting to clear up!
Short for big carot?"
It all makes sense now! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Where is near Waco Texas?
Where is Ruby Ridge?
How many Islamic Extremists were involved?
Who was Charles Whitman? John Wilkes Booth?
Who is threatening RIGHT NOW gun violence if Trump gets kicked out of office? Republicans.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let’s get one thing straight, The tories have won, they dictate the talking points now. So this issue will be swept under the carpet and forgotten.
To be honest, Islamaphobia is now backed by this government, which is fine for many people, because as long as they are not the target why should it worry for?
Am I right? |
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"Let’s get one thing straight, The tories have won, they dictate the talking points now. So this issue will be swept under the carpet and forgotten.
To be honest, Islamaphobia is now backed by this government, which is fine for many people, because as long as they are not the target why should it worry for?
Am I right?"
You are correct. But not right. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So I'm applying the same logic used here to David Koresh.
This Christian Extremist was responsible for 24 British lives near Waco Texas. Therefore painting all Christians with the same brush we shall expel them from our lands forwith.
What? You're not a Christian? Well you sure look Christian to me mate so you get on the boat first and I'll get in after you... |
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The lunacy on this thread is just bizarre - so a little knowledge about wahabi makes you think all Muslims are devils?
Ffs no wonder the world is in the terrible state it is in when World Powers have been fucking the middle east up since the second world war at least. Do yourself a favour and watch the film about the Syrian doctor and his wife trying too keep fellow human beings alive while having the shit bombed out of their homes and hospitals by russian backed Syrian forces. All muslims and all seriously brave and good people with more guts than you and your fat-headed ranting on a sex site will ever have. Muppet  |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?"
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again! |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again! "
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional. |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?"
I am referring to a quote which considers Muslims bigots.
Perhaps I don't fully understand what a bigot is. |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again! "
So here's the thing. If a guy wants to have a rant and get things off his chest, I'll listen. But if someone is just cut and pasting someone else's rant he could at least have the decency to leave the quotation marks off the end.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Miss C had a scarf over her head a while back because her head was cold and as she walked past a pub someone called out 'fucking Muslim'. For a second she got to feel what it's like.
Anecdotal, yes, but I get the impression there is a spike in the incidence of minorities being picked on since the GE election result, just as there was after the 2016 referendum result.
"Taking back our country" means different things to different people.
Well I have just renewed my British passport meaning I have been in the UK for 10 years. I've never had someone actually attack me, until the run up to the election. It was funny on two fronts. First being that I was told to go back to my 'own country'. Already here mate. Second thinking he was going to beat the crap out of me "
Im sorry to read this and what miss C experienced. 
I've seen bigotry displayed in others and hope examples like this don't get worse.
Ive worked with all faiths and ethnicities and got on with all of them |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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To be honest, Islamaphobia is now backed by this government, which is fine for many people, because as long as they are not the target why should it worry for?
Am I right?"
Yes, because it chimes with the people who voted for them. The People's Government.
Now endorsed by people like Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins and Britain First on Twitter.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"The lunacy on this thread is just bizarre - so a little knowledge about wahabi makes you think all Muslims are devils?
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The Wahhabis are the power behind the throne of Saudi Arabia.
Very strict teaching, the midwife of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
The Saudi Royal Family governs with their consent.
Radical conservative.
15/20 of the 9/11 bombers were Saudi citizens.
And still we sell them our best bombs and aeroplanes.
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"The lunacy on this thread is just bizarre - so a little knowledge about wahabi makes you think all Muslims are devils?
The Wahhabis are the power behind the throne of Saudi Arabia.
Very strict teaching, the midwife of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
The Saudi Royal Family governs with their consent.
Radical conservative.
15/20 of the 9/11 bombers were Saudi citizens.
And still we sell them our best bombs and aeroplanes.
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There is a very long and very boring video and equally long and boring book that proves beyond and doubt that the twin towers could not have collapsed from the planes alone.
The only thing that suggests that it WAS Osama Bin Laden is that Donald Trump says it WASN'T Bin Laden. |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional."
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again . |
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"Looks like the tories are rolling back on internal investigation into islamaphobia. 6 days after the election. What other promises will topple next?
As long as they deliver the Brexit, no one really cares about anything else.
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Except that more people voted for parties that weren't aiming for the Johnson brexit. And his brexit may not be the one that others expect or want. Even conservative voters included remainers.
Allowing any form of brexit, without proper scrutiny, isn't going to be the panacea that some would like.
The cons get away largely free from probing evaluation, with a media that largely is extremely right wing and the BBC which typically parrots the conservative soundbites, as their unofficial mouthpiece and propaganda machine. The Islamaphobia and other prejudices within the cons are silently cultivated within the country, supporting citizens to target their unhappiness against. Classic smoke and mirrors but very dangerous for all, including those recipients of the hatred.
It's such a weak and pathetic mind that operates this way. |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again ."
Are you one of those free speech preachers?
Unless it's someone standing up to hate. What are your free speech rules? |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again ."
For someone who delights in spouting contentious nonsense aimed at offending anyone you possibly can you seem to have a surprisingly thin skin. |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again .
For someone who delights in spouting contentious nonsense aimed at offending anyone you possibly can you seem to have a surprisingly thin skin. "
I find that hard to disagree with |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again ."
Have tou ever read the forum rules? |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again ."
I thought you were an advocate for free speach? This looks like snowflake behaviour to me |
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How about I get hold of Rugby Does MFM and ask her to look at the threads of the latst momth and give a forum ban for anyone who has broken forum rules. I'll probably be the first to go but if it forces us all to behave maybe its a good thing.
In the forum rules you are not allowed to get personal. That's most of us most of the time.
Secondly you do not hang out dirty laundry. The political channel is dirty laundry central.
What do you people say to this suggestion? |
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"How about I get hold of Rugby Does MFM and ask her to look at the threads of the latst momth and give a forum ban for anyone who has broken forum rules. I'll probably be the first to go but if it forces us all to behave maybe its a good thing.
In the forum rules you are not allowed to get personal. That's most of us most of the time.
Secondly you do not hang out dirty laundry. The political channel is dirty laundry central.
What do you people say to this suggestion?"
We are all adults, politics is a dirty business, personal insults helped to get Boris elected . If you dish it out then be man or woman enough to take it, otherwise it make you look like a hypocrite and a snowflake |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again .
I thought you were an advocate for free speach? This looks like snowflake behaviour to me "
Free speech yes. Calling forum members abusive names just because you lose every argument is another thing entirely |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again .
I thought you were an advocate for free speach? This looks like snowflake behaviour to me
Free speech yes. Calling forum members abusive names just because you lose every argument is another thing entirely "
Are you in a parallel universe.
Are you aware that you just described your own behaviour? |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again .
I thought you were an advocate for free speach? This looks like snowflake behaviour to me
Free speech yes. Calling forum members abusive names just because you lose every argument is another thing entirely "
Come on, stop being a snowflake |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"I think "Islamaphobia" is a bit of a misnomer.
A phobia is an irrational fear of something.
When the followers of a religion fly aeroplanes into buildings, decapitate journalists and aid workers, stab people to death on the streets of London, drive trucks into crowds in Berlin and Barcelona, shoot hundreds to death in Paris Etc. Etc. All in the name of that religion. Then to be fearful of that religion is not a phobia.
That isn't saying that all followers of Islam are terrorists but none of them have good and bad stamped on their forehead. So to be fearful (cautious maybe) is quite rational."
Are you generalising by any chance?
By your logic, all minorities should be fearful or cautious of all "native" British people.
Is that what you mean? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Get ready for 5 years of the Tory leader being quizzed and accused of being islamophobic , unless of course the media decide not to mention it .
Who cares I'm islamaphobic and so is most of the country, I guess your for dogma, doctrine,blasphemy and religious law?.
Islamophobia is the fear, hatred of, or prejudice against them, which one are you?
Do you fear them, hate them? or do you just have a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience? .
No it's not, it's a made up word by the Muslim council in New York 15 years ago, it's designed to shut down those that wish to mock and criticise Islam a man made religion of which some say is the shittest idea ever dreamt up."
Like anti-Semitism?
Just an equivalent term referring to a specific form of religious bigotry?
Which non man-made religions do you approve of? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"As for fearing Islam then dammed right I do, which religion doesn't seek unwanted influence or expansionism?.
We curtailed religious influence in the West many years ago and for the better, those that seek to undue should be everybody's enemy, especially you lot!!!."
You think religious influence was deliberately curtailed?
It took a World War or two and mass slaughter for society to change of its own accord.
That self-regarding attitude of Western superiority would be amusing if it weren't so corrosive.
Islam was historically far more liberal than Christianity until it was no longer in the ascendancy.
The intolerance of Western society both religious and secular today is hardly something to celebrate, as you are so ably demonstrating |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"To quote one of my "weak minded bigoted moronic" heroes.
It’s coming to a place near you.
The Qurans that are given out in our prison system, to Muslim prisoners by Muslim chaplains, paid for by Saudi Arabia, are Qurans written to the Wahabi tune. They’re not just your everyday Quran; they’re the Qurans that the Wahabis want you to read, containing direct incitement.
They’re being given out with taxpayers’ money in the prison system, where militias are forming. Next you’ll have militias of this kind with their own chaplains within the United States armed forces. Are you ready for that? Are you ready to have Wahabi preachers in the U.S. armed forces?
You better get ready for it, unless you’re going to take the James Madison view that there shouldn’t be any chaplains in the U.S. armed forces to begin with, or in the prison system. People want to pray, you can’t stop them. But we cannot have state subsidized prayer. We cannot have state subsidized preachers or chaplains.
Give it up, or give it to your deadliest enemy and pay for the rope that will ch@ke you.
This is very urgent business, ladies and gentlemen, I beseech you: resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is taken away from you, which is the next thing.
You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”
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An excellently researched piece as ever
Sources? Which particular YouTube clip or conspiracy site?
As soon as you are asked you have another little tantrum or change the subject.
I shall assume the same behaviour once again, but perhaps I'll be surprised 
Anyone can and should complain about and confront extremism when they find it. However, they shouldn't exaggerte it's extent or just repeat half truths or lies. That would make them prejudiced. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"This isn't about bombers, this about those that seek to teach their children known bigotry and wickedness because God said so, not because they find it distasteful or wrong but because God says punish the infidels.
We've already started on the inroads, you can get absolved of handling alcohol if you work for aldi, no ham products in Tesco, you get time out for preying to Mecca, no no no, you can do it on your own time, if you can't work in a school without/with a cross delete as applicable your in the wrong country.
There's neighborhoods in the UK right now being patrolled by Islamists who are firmly telling UK citizens what they can drink and what they can wear and who they can hold hands with and it's not happening on my watch.
So you whataboutery lot can do one. "
What are your sources for these patrols?
Are they like the ones in the US who follow "suspicious" meaning coloured people and shoot them because they feel scared? |
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"I'm still waiting to be told what a bigot is...
Are you referring to the bigot from boston?
The earth is very flat there and the prevailing winds numb the brain but its still no excuse....maybe he’s forgotten his meds again!
If the bigot did forget it was purely intentional.
More pathetic name calling. Reported. Again .
I thought you were an advocate for free speach? This looks like snowflake behaviour to me
Free speech yes. Calling forum members abusive names just because you lose every argument is another thing entirely "
Please read the forum rules and tell me if you follow them. Before answering consider any comment where you have attacked the person not the argument is reportable. Answer carefully. Reporting is a two way street. |
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"As for fearing Islam then dammed right I do, which religion doesn't seek unwanted influence or expansionism?.
We curtailed religious influence in the West many years ago and for the better, those that seek to undue should be everybody's enemy, especially you lot!!!.
You think religious influence was deliberately curtailed?
It took a World War or two and mass slaughter for society to change of its own accord.
That self-regarding attitude of Western superiority would be amusing if it weren't so corrosive.
Islam was historically far more liberal than Christianity until it was no longer in the ascendancy.
The intolerance of Western society both religious and secular today is hardly something to celebrate, as you are so ably demonstrating "
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This reminds me of a schoolyard bully who eventually gets a taste of his own medicine and then goes crying to the teacher.
I am all for the following of forum rules. But it's binary. We either follow the forun rules or the gloves come off. It's one or the other. Cannot have a foot in each camp and alternate from to the other depending on whether you are receiving it or dishing it out. This applies to all of us, myself included. |
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"I think "Islamaphobia" is a bit of a misnomer.
A phobia is an irrational fear of something.
When the followers of a religion fly aeroplanes into buildings, decapitate journalists and aid workers, stab people to death on the streets of London, drive trucks into crowds in Berlin and Barcelona, shoot hundreds to death in Paris Etc. Etc. All in the name of that religion. Then to be fearful of that religion is not a phobia.
That isn't saying that all followers of Islam are terrorists but none of them have good and bad stamped on their forehead. So to be fearful (cautious maybe) is quite rational.
Well said - you beat me to it
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Your logic is then be fearful of all muslims?
So you should be fearful or cautious of a muslim doing their shopping or when they at a restaurant, or taking their kids to school also?
That’s totally stupid!
People! If we were fearful of everything that could happen we would stay in our houses not daring to go out for fear that something might happen to us.
If you want to live your life like that so be it.
I’m not going to be cowered by those who hate, we are British, we’ve faced worse and triumphed.
The British Lion endures over adversity!
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