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"How do you think the Brexit saga will go? I think, sadly, Johnson and the Tories will win the election. (Too many people believe blatant lies and will vote for them.) They'll drag the country out of the EU on some version of Brexit. The subsequent shitstorm and negotiations will last for many years. The UK will lose out a lot. And the Tories will blame everybody else for Brexit fucking everything up." . I think ( and fear ) you may be right , my prediction , is that in 4 years time 14 million of the 17 million who voted leave will be saying "it wasn't me , I voted remain " | |||
"How do you think the Brexit saga will go? I think, sadly, Johnson and the Tories will win the election. (Too many people believe blatant lies and will vote for them.) They'll drag the country out of the EU on some version of Brexit. The subsequent shitstorm and negotiations will last for many years. The UK will lose out a lot. And the Tories will blame everybody else for Brexit fucking everything up.. I think ( and fear ) you may be right , my prediction , is that in 4 years time 14 million of the 17 million who voted leave will be saying "it wasn't me , I voted remain " " I think they'll still be blaming others for it all going wrong. Leavers have had 3 years of the shitshow already to change their minds. I get the impression many of them have the same views as before. | |||
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"How do you think the Brexit saga will go? I think, sadly, Johnson and the Tories will win the election. (Too many people believe blatant lies and will vote for them.) They'll drag the country out of the EU on some version of Brexit. The subsequent shitstorm and negotiations will last for many years. The UK will lose out a lot. And the Tories will blame everybody else for Brexit fucking everything up." I think you've covered everything there  | |||
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"How do you think the Brexit saga will go? I think, sadly, Johnson and the Tories will win the election. (Too many people believe blatant lies and will vote for them.) They'll drag the country out of the EU on some version of Brexit. The subsequent shitstorm and negotiations will last for many years. The UK will lose out a lot. And the Tories will blame everybody else for Brexit fucking everything up.. I think ( and fear ) you may be right , my prediction , is that in 4 years time 14 million of the 17 million who voted leave will be saying "it wasn't me , I voted remain " " don't think so | |||
"No one knows who that hand waving horrid woman is ....one trick pony ...and a bad one at that ...no democracy within the liberal democrats " They really should have a re branding liberal non democrats. | |||
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"I think that Conservatives will win the election. That BJ won't get a deal in 11 months and we will crash out without a deal. I think that the UK will be a no go area so far as business is concerned except for those businesses who will exploit having a captive market and exploit this by raising their prices and blaming higer costs on Brexit." Actually I don’t think we will crash out. We will be in discussions with the EU with regards to a trade deal so at that point the brexiteers beloved WTO section 24 rules can kick in. Unfortunately for the EU to agree to continue talking we will have to maintain the status quo with regards to standards etc, which we will, and this whole circus can carry on . | |||
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"I think we will get a trade deal,we buy more from the eu than sell to them so why would they not want one.Also this wont be about new trade it will be about trade they are losing.The German car market is losing jobs in the tens of thousands at the moment, every country is going to have to put more into the pot to cover the uk,s loss they would be foolish not to." Of course there will be a trade deal. No one is seriously denying that. But also no one is seriously suggesting that the trade deal will even be close to what we have now. | |||
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"No one knows who that hand waving horrid woman is ....one trick pony ...and a bad one at that ...no democracy within the liberal democrats " It's a clear position though. If they get in, they have a mandated majority. Like a no deal, like a remain deal, like a cherry picked deal. The Torys are leaving. Labour are remain by default. A referendum on Remain v's a closely aligned deal is a remain position. Libs are remaining. Brexit are leaving. | |||
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"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now?" well you wont find many on here as most who post are remainers but im optimistic as i said earlier once we are out we can then negotiate other deals which will further concentrate the eu,s mind.Until we leave by law we cannot do that which is why the eu have had the upper hand all this time and made the law in the 1st place.Have faith there is a big world out there.  | |||
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"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now?well you wont find many on here as most who post are remainers but im optimistic as i said earlier once we are out we can then negotiate other deals which will further concentrate the eu,s mind.Until we leave by law we cannot do that which is why the eu have had the upper hand all this time and made the law in the 1st place.Have faith there is a big world out there. "You really think we'll be in a stronger position to negotiate with countries than the entire EU? Or that we'll somehow get a better deal with the EU than the one we already have? Wow. | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now?" There isn't really any evidence for a positive outcome for ordinary people. But that was never the point of Brexit. | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now? There isn't really any evidence for a positive outcome for ordinary people. But that was never the point of Brexit. " A lot of people were sold a vision of Brexit and how wonderful it would be, though, weren't they? I'm curious how many people still believe that bullshit. | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now? There isn't really any evidence for a positive outcome for ordinary people. But that was never the point of Brexit. A lot of people were sold a vision of Brexit and how wonderful it would be, though, weren't they? I'm curious how many people still believe that bullshit." Maybe not many but nearly all would publicly deny it | |||
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"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now?well you wont find many on here as most who post are remainers but im optimistic as i said earlier once we are out we can then negotiate other deals which will further concentrate the eu,s mind.Until we leave by law we cannot do that which is why the eu have had the upper hand all this time and made the law in the 1st place.Have faith there is a big world out there. "Darwin was right | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now?" We both voted Leave, as did 90% of our friends and family. Not optimistically, but simply to spite the sort of people who vote Remain. | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now? We both voted Leave, as did 90% of our friends and family. Not optimistically, but simply to spite the sort of people who vote Remain." Aside from all the race hate supporting nonsense you posted before. This is the next most rediculous thing I've ever read on here. How come you mostly know people with such abhorrent attitudes like you're own, Don't you mix well with others? | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now? We both voted Leave, as did 90% of our friends and family. Not optimistically, but simply to spite the sort of people who vote Remain." Yep Darwin awards all round! | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now? We both voted Leave, as did 90% of our friends and family. Not optimistically, but simply to spite the sort of people who vote Remain." Yeah that'll show those remain bastards who want the country to be better.  | |||
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"Thats a matter of opinion on whether we'd be "better" Leaving or Remaining. Both options have their pros and cons." Can you give an example of a pro? | |||
"Thats a matter of opinion on whether we'd be "better" Leaving or Remaining. Both options have their pros and cons." You didn't vote based on pros or cons, though. You voted to spite people. Your words. | |||
"Thats a matter of opinion on whether we'd be "better" Leaving or Remaining. Both options have their pros and cons. You didn't vote based on pros or cons, though. You voted to spite people. Your words. "True. But the people we spited are the people damaging Britain (think The Guardian, The BBC, most left wing politics). So our intentions were good. Your assertion that Remain is a good option and Leave is bad one oversimplifies things a little. | |||
"Thats a matter of opinion on whether we'd be "better" Leaving or Remaining. Both options have their pros and cons. You didn't vote based on pros or cons, though. You voted to spite people. Your words.
True. But the people we spited are the people damaging Britain (think The Guardian, The BBC, most left wing politics). So our intentions were good.
Your assertion that Remain is a good option and Leave is bad one oversimplifies things a little. "I think you'll find you spited (if that even is a word) everyone except the richest 0.001% . | |||
"I think you'll find you spited (if that even is a word) everyone except the richest 0.001% . " Well, not the majority of people. Because they voted Leave  | |||
"I think you'll find you spited (if that even is a word) everyone except the richest 0.001% . Well, not the majority of people. Because they voted Leave "Do you even realise that the masses who voted for Brexit are incredibly unlikely to benefit from it? Do you care at all that Brexit will likely weaken the UK significantly? | |||
"I think you'll find you spited (if that even is a word) everyone except the richest 0.001% . Well, not the majority of people. Because they voted Leave "Right. The majority of people who voted, voted leave. But I'm talking about who stands to benefit from Brexit. (Aside from the Americans and Russians) | |||
"But I'm talking about who stands to benefit from Brexit. (Aside from the Americans and Russians)" Until we see the exact benefits and pitfalls of Brexit, we cannot know. The only concrete thing we know is we will be no longer paying our EU membership fee, which saves every taxpayer some money. Everything else is speculation to some degree. | |||
"But I'm talking about who stands to benefit from Brexit. (Aside from the Americans and Russians) Until we see the exact benefits and pitfalls of Brexit, we cannot know. The only concrete thing we know is we will be no longer paying our EU membership fee, which saves every taxpayer some money. Everything else is speculation to some degree." This is a lot funnier than your pro race hate stuff. | |||
"But I'm talking about who stands to benefit from Brexit. (Aside from the Americans and Russians) Until we see the exact benefits and pitfalls of Brexit, we cannot know. The only concrete thing we know is we will be no longer paying our EU membership fee, which saves every taxpayer some money. Everything else is speculation to some degree." But we will still be paying as we have pension contributions and contracts to fulfil and in the meantime the value of the pound is dropping and major property owners like m&g are on the brink of collapse - sounds like we are winning doesnt it? | |||
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"But I'm talking about who stands to benefit from Brexit. (Aside from the Americans and Russians) Until we see the exact benefits and pitfalls of Brexit, we cannot know. The only concrete thing we know is we will be no longer paying our EU membership fee, which saves every taxpayer some money. Everything else is speculation to some degree. But we will still be paying as we have pension contributions and contracts to fulfil and in the meantime the value of the pound is dropping and major property owners like m&g are on the brink of collapse - sounds like we are winning doesnt it?" Nonsense. We still have lucrative money earners like Thomas Cook! | |||
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"If wont happen and I have always sait it "yes you have,you have been very consistent in that regard we will see in 6 days. | |||
"If wont happen and I have always sait it yes you have,you have been very consistent in that regard we will see in 6 days. "Yes we will the date will come and go lol. | |||
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"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol" You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointed | |||
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"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointed" emmmmm yes January 31st | |||
"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st " Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years? | |||
"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years?" The hard right wing nutters are in charge of the Tories now. Given the fact they don't care at all about damage to the country or its people, I think they'll drag the country out of the EU on any shitty deal. Then the years of negotiations with the WU will begin. And they'll go v badly whle the tories try to blame the EU for everything. | |||
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"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years? The hard right wing nutters are in charge of the Tories now. Given the fact they don't care at all about damage to the country or its people, I think they'll drag the country out of the EU on any shitty deal. Then the years of negotiations with the WU will begin. And they'll go v badly whle the tories try to blame the EU for everything." I don't doubt any of that. But there seems to be a general feeling amongst some peeps that if the Tories get reelected, they'll stop the faffing around, and stop voting against their own deal etc. | |||
"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years? The hard right wing nutters are in charge of the Tories now. Given the fact they don't care at all about damage to the country or its people, I think they'll drag the country out of the EU on any shitty deal. Then the years of negotiations with the WU will begin. And they'll go v badly whle the tories try to blame the EU for everything. I don't doubt any of that. But there seems to be a general feeling amongst some peeps that if the Tories get reelected, they'll stop the faffing around, and stop voting against their own deal etc. " Oh I see what you mean. | |||
"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years? The hard right wing nutters are in charge of the Tories now. Given the fact they don't care at all about damage to the country or its people, I think they'll drag the country out of the EU on any shitty deal. Then the years of negotiations with the WU will begin. And they'll go v badly whle the tories try to blame the EU for everything. I don't doubt any of that. But there seems to be a general feeling amongst some peeps that if the Tories get reelected, they'll stop the faffing around, and stop voting against their own deal etc. " Its not a feeling mate every standing mp has signed up to passing the deal every one of them. | |||
"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years? The hard right wing nutters are in charge of the Tories now. Given the fact they don't care at all about damage to the country or its people, I think they'll drag the country out of the EU on any shitty deal. Then the years of negotiations with the WU will begin. And they'll go v badly whle the tories try to blame the EU for everything. I don't doubt any of that. But there seems to be a general feeling amongst some peeps that if the Tories get reelected, they'll stop the faffing around, and stop voting against their own deal etc. Its not a feeling mate every standing mp has signed up to passing the deal every one of them." Parliament voted for Johnson's deal, which was basically May's deal reheated. But then Johnson himself pulled the deal so he could force an election. | |||
"Shags another one who as always said it won’t happen See what he as to say next week lol You really think a tory wins equates to getting Brexit done. I fear you may be disappointedemmmmm yes January 31st Do you think the Tories will get their act together, instead of more of the faffing around they've been doing for the last few years? The hard right wing nutters are in charge of the Tories now. Given the fact they don't care at all about damage to the country or its people, I think they'll drag the country out of the EU on any shitty deal. Then the years of negotiations with the WU will begin. And they'll go v badly whle the tories try to blame the EU for everything. I don't doubt any of that. But there seems to be a general feeling amongst some peeps that if the Tories get reelected, they'll stop the faffing around, and stop voting against their own deal etc. Its not a feeling mate every standing mp has signed up to passing the deal every one of them." And we all implicitly trust everything every one of them says. Case closed. | |||
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"If Lib Dems get in they have promised a second referendum (which possibly goes against democracy) That surely would mean they would have to give Scotland a second referendum. What a can of worms that would be. " In fairness, if Labour get in they have said they'll give a second referendum on Scotland. And not that its been raised much recently but Labour are in favour of Northern Irish independence or at least Irish unity. I may be wrong but I remember Labour members commenting they would not be adverse or would work with parties about a Welsh Independence vote. | |||
"How do you think the Brexit saga will go? I think, sadly, Johnson and the Tories will win the election. (Too many people believe blatant lies and will vote for them.) They'll drag the country out of the EU on some version of Brexit. The subsequent shitstorm and negotiations will last for many years. The UK will lose out a lot. And the Tories will blame everybody else for Brexit fucking everything up." . Seems about right I'd say. Although I've always been of the opinion that brexit won't be as bad as made out.  | |||
"I notice v few people think things will go well. Where's all that Brexit optimism that leavers were sold now?well you wont find many on here as most who post are remainers but im optimistic as i said earlier once we are out we can then negotiate other deals which will further concentrate the eu,s mind.Until we leave by law we cannot do that which is why the eu have had the upper hand all this time and made the law in the 1st place.Have faith there is a big world out there. "Fantasy. We lose 60 odd deals that we have via the EU, that we have already paid for! - our membership fee paid for good negotiations that worked in our interests. Leavers want us to have to pay again for that effort and assume the magic money tree can provide endless money for something that is avoidable - everyone paying more for goods when our deals are thrown away. It's laughable that some people try to think that the reason the EU had the upper hand negotiaating after the referendum is anything other than that they are much larger and stronger than us. It's farcical to try to pretend otherwise. Replicate this to when the UK is trying to negotiate with other big states 
The UK is the desperate weaker state. When some people have fantasies, they need to make them much more detailed, providing the specifics of how these fantasy deals get done as well as the exact costs to the UK for every loss being accrued, since the deceit pre-referendum until we complete the same deals that we currently have at the same or better terms | |||
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