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Will britain be known as brexiters and remainers?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you think leaving the EU will end the division your utterly wrong..
It’s just the beginning."
That is right and brexit havent happened yet if ever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It just needs sorting out with a good old Civil War and a new nation can emerge  "
The simplest way to solve the situation is let everyone go their separate ways .
Let’s divide up the country then everyone will be happy and not a drop of blood need be spilt..
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"It just needs sorting out with a good old Civil War and a new nation can emerge
The simplest way to solve the situation is let everyone go their separate ways .
Let’s divide up the country then everyone will be happy and not a drop of blood need be spilt..
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Can we do it by constituency, then we get to stay in the EU!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It just needs sorting out with a good old Civil War and a new nation can emerge
The simplest way to solve the situation is let everyone go their separate ways .
Let’s divide up the country then everyone will be happy and not a drop of blood need be spilt..
Can we do it by constituency, then we get to stay in the EU! "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As the country gets even more divided will britain be known as brexiters and remainers rather than individuals?"
From outside. We're all tarred with the same brush. Leavers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It just needs sorting out with a good old Civil War and a new nation can emerge
The simplest way to solve the situation is let everyone go their separate ways .
Let’s divide up the country then everyone will be happy and not a drop of blood need be spilt..
Can we do it by constituency, then we get to stay in the EU! "
Winner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It just needs sorting out with a good old Civil War and a new nation can emerge
The simplest way to solve the situation is let everyone go their separate ways .
Let’s divide up the country then everyone will be happy and not a drop of blood need be spilt..
Can we do it by constituency, then we get to stay in the EU!
Winner. "
Democracy for the win ..Each of us goes our own way .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives "
Which version of out would you prefer, and which version of out do all the other leavers prefer?
I don't agree that those fighting against Brexit should be sacked. There should always be an opposing view. An opposition point of view is integral to a democracy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Which version of out would you prefer, and which version of out do all the other leavers prefer?
I don't agree that those fighting against Brexit should be sacked. There should always be an opposing view. An opposition point of view is integral to a democracy."
I would prefer a deal, but understand the no deal scenario
if Europe think we are not serious about it we won't get the best deal for us as a group of nations , now here what your saying about right of opposing view which is correct, but before the vote not after the majority wanted out otherwise why have the vote in the 1st place, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Which version of out would you prefer, and which version of out do all the other leavers prefer?
I don't agree that those fighting against Brexit should be sacked. There should always be an opposing view. An opposition point of view is integral to a democracy."
Indeed, one opinion "forced" on the nation and government isn't democracy, that's dictatorship |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Which version of out would you prefer, and which version of out do all the other leavers prefer?
I don't agree that those fighting against Brexit should be sacked. There should always be an opposing view. An opposition point of view is integral to a democracy.
Indeed, one opinion "forced" on the nation and government isn't democracy, that's dictatorship "
The absolutism of Brexit rhetoric is a slipper slope. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Think,how god dam stupid would we look if we didn't come out now, and Europe would have us over a barrel again .its utterly ridiculous people still talking about remain, never voted tory in my life always labour, but this time im voting for the only party thats doing what the people voted for
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think,how god dam stupid would we look if we didn't come out now, and Europe would have us over a barrel again .its utterly ridiculous people still talking about remain, never voted tory in my life always labour, but this time im voting for the only party thats doing what the people voted for
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I’m in a similar situation I’ve never voted labour in my life but I will for them for first time in December.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Which version of out would you prefer, and which version of out do all the other leavers prefer?
I don't agree that those fighting against Brexit should be sacked. There should always be an opposing view. An opposition point of view is integral to a democracy.
I would prefer a deal, but understand the no deal scenario
if Europe think we are not serious about it we won't get the best deal for us as a group of nations , now here what your saying about right of opposing view which is correct, but before the vote not after the majority wanted out otherwise why have the vote in the 1st place,"
It was the majority of people who voted. It's not the majority of people.
The voice for everyone else needs to be heard too.
When you say best deal. Honestly, does anyone have any idea what that looks like? The beat deal, is the deal we have, as a member of the EU. Anything else is a watered down, less valuable version. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think,how god dam stupid would we look if we didn't come out now, and Europe would have us over a barrel again .its utterly ridiculous people still talking about remain, never voted tory in my life always labour, but this time im voting for the only party thats doing what the people voted for
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As a nation, I think we've missed the boat on not looking stupid.
If we remain, for arguments sake, how would Europe "have us over the barrel"?
It would appear that we are currently being bent over and shafted, due to our relatively weak negotiating position as the much smaller party across the table from a much bigger party. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think,how god dam stupid would we look if we didn't come out now, and Europe would have us over a barrel again .its utterly ridiculous people still talking about remain, never voted tory in my life always labour, but this time im voting for the only party thats doing what the people voted for
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So we're doing something just so that our neighbors don't laugh at us. Are future generations unimportant? Well-being is the most important thing? This is how it should be understood? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I guess this is how far we’ve fallen.
Brexit is now an exercise in saving face .Once we get Boris the clown as PM .We can sleep safe in the knowledge we’ve hit rock bottom with a clown at the helm in Union Jack underwear and we can fall no further .. |
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives "
Yet another who does NOT understand democracy
And here's the sad thing most will never have the wit to understand democracy as it is not simple and binary
Our media and education system have now done a wonderful job of creating a nation with a majority of humans who can only choose debate and repeat blunt nonsensical binary options
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives "
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"As the country gets even more divided will britain be known as brexiters and remainers rather than individuals?"
England, yes.
Different set of permutations in NI and a different set again Scotland.
In Scotland, there are four voting cohorts, not two.
Yes and Remain
No and Remain
Yes and Leave
No and Leave.
The SNP is winning the first three to varying degrees; the Tories the fourth. Lib Dem and Labour picking up the scraps. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt"
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand "
Just to jump in. The vote was advisory, and based on lies, and influenced by donors from the states and from Russia.
Freezing democracy at this point. Doesn't seem very democratic.
Democracy should be free from illegal interference and from lies made by politicians for personal gain. And should be an on going process, not a one time deal. |
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand "
Learn about democracy
No blindly adearing to a yes no vote on a nonsense question is not democracy
And it will require a number pages of a4 some world history geographic examples and a degree of understanding complex topics
It is an utter waste of time trying to explain why it is utter nonsense to suggest not following the result of this vote is undemocratic |
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand
Just to jump in. The vote was advisory, and based on lies, and influenced by donors from the states and from Russia.
Freezing democracy at this point. Doesn't seem very democratic.
Democracy should be free from illegal interference and from lies made by politicians for personal gain. And should be an on going process, not a one time deal. "
Exactly it's a red herring for the ignorant |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand
Just to jump in. The vote was advisory, and based on lies, and influenced by donors from the states and from Russia.
Freezing democracy at this point. Doesn't seem very democratic.
Democracy should be free from illegal interference and from lies made by politicians for personal gain. And should be an on going process, not a one time deal. "
We do agree on one thing that all the leaders are bending the truth shall we say, at the end of the day we will come out and we should all come together and pull in the dame direction
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand
Just to jump in. The vote was advisory, and based on lies, and influenced by donors from the states and from Russia.
Freezing democracy at this point. Doesn't seem very democratic.
Democracy should be free from illegal interference and from lies made by politicians for personal gain. And should be an on going process, not a one time deal.
We do agree on one thing that all the leaders are bending the truth shall we say, at the end of the day we will come out and we should all come together and pull in the dame direction
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Pulling in the same direction would be nice.
Its a simple choice. Pull in the direction of the rich few, the corporations who don't want to pay tax, those who wish to exploit or in the direction for the people of this country.
Sadly the rich few own the media, and the corporations which sponsor and fund the government. So they have the means with which to persuade people to vote against their own interested. With relative ease. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Ask yourself who stopped the UK leaving the EU.
Most MPs voted for Article 50.
When it came to actually leaving, enough Conservative MPs (Johnson included) kept voting against it.
So the UK is still in the EU. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ask yourself who stopped the UK leaving the EU.
Most MPs voted for Article 50.
When it came to actually leaving, enough Conservative MPs (Johnson included) kept voting against it.
So the UK is still in the EU."
Not for long hopefully
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand
Just to jump in. The vote was advisory, and based on lies, and influenced by donors from the states and from Russia.
Freezing democracy at this point. Doesn't seem very democratic.
Democracy should be free from illegal interference and from lies made by politicians for personal gain. And should be an on going process, not a one time deal.
We do agree on one thing that all the leaders are bending the truth shall we say, at the end of the day we will come out and we should all come together and pull in the dame direction
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Sorry fella never going to happen.I will never be on the same side of Brexiters.
We are Chalk and cheese...
I will however wish you all the best ... |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Ask yourself who stopped the UK leaving the EU.
Most MPs voted for Article 50.
When it came to actually leaving, enough Conservative MPs (Johnson included) kept voting against it.
So the UK is still in the EU.
Not for long hopefully
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No going back once we do.
Genie is out the bottle.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ask yourself who stopped the UK leaving the EU.
Most MPs voted for Article 50.
When it came to actually leaving, enough Conservative MPs (Johnson included) kept voting against it.
So the UK is still in the EU.
Not for long hopefully
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Are you worried about having to pay tax on your offshore registered corporations? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ask yourself who stopped the UK leaving the EU.
Most MPs voted for Article 50.
When it came to actually leaving, enough Conservative MPs (Johnson included) kept voting against it.
So the UK is still in the EU.
Not for long hopefully
Are you worried about having to pay tax on your offshore registered corporations?"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"As the country gets even more divided will britain be known as brexiters and remainers rather than individuals?
England, yes.
Different set of permutations in NI and a different set again Scotland.
In Scotland, there are four voting cohorts, not two.
Yes and Remain
No and Remain
Yes and Leave
No and Leave.
The SNP is winning the first three to varying degrees; the Tories the fourth. Lib Dem and Labour picking up the scraps."
That is right more in england rather than the other countries |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives "
It is democracy to stop it as brexit was irresponsible with no risk assesment.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand
Just to jump in. The vote was advisory, and based on lies, and influenced by donors from the states and from Russia.
Freezing democracy at this point. Doesn't seem very democratic.
Democracy should be free from illegal interference and from lies made by politicians for personal gain. And should be an on going process, not a one time deal.
We do agree on one thing that all the leaders are bending the truth shall we say, at the end of the day we will come out and we should all come together and pull in the dame direction
Sorry fella never going to happen.I will never be on the same side of Brexiters.
We are Chalk and cheese...
I will however wish you all the best ... "
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives It is democracy to stop it as brexit was irresponsible with no risk assesment."
Exactly... those who cry it’s undemocratic to want to stop Brexit..
Clearly have no understanding how democracy works.
To stifle such opposing views is the real anti-democracy.
But then what do you expect when the public is fed such tripe from the right wing media in this country.
Who also have the Tory party in their pocket and vehicle jump at their every command.
If you can’t see beyond the lies you have been spoon fed on both sides. Then ask yourself who is the bigger fool... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think,how god dam stupid would we look if we didn't come out now, and Europe would have us over a barrel again .its utterly ridiculous people still talking about remain, never voted tory in my life always labour, but this time im voting for the only party thats doing what the people voted for
I’m in a similar situation I’ve never voted labour in my life but I will for them for first time in December.
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Me too, I'd rather take a gamble on a man thinking he's going to improve the Country than a man constantly lying knowing he's going to fuck the country over |
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives It is democracy to stop it as brexit was irresponsible with no risk assesment.
Exactly... those who cry it’s undemocratic to want to stop Brexit..
Clearly have no understanding how democracy works.
To stifle such opposing views is the real anti-democracy.
But then what do you expect when the public is fed such tripe from the right wing media in this country.
Who also have the Tory party in their pocket and vehicle jump at their every command.
If you can’t see beyond the lies you have been spoon fed on both sides. Then ask yourself who is the bigger fool..."
who would of thought that a country having a referendum and respecting the vote of the ppl would be undemacratic Learn something new every day on here lol |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives
Alas it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something if you don’t understand it. Once you stop and learn what a democracy actually is then come back with some actual arguments.
-Matt
Matt, So when a vote is taken and their is a outcome isn't democratic to honour that or am i missing something ,whatever you believe you should honour the vote in a democratic society , what is so hard to understand "
Yes, you are missing something. You are missing that we live in a democracy.
-Matt |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives It is democracy to stop it as brexit was irresponsible with no risk assesment.
Exactly... those who cry it’s undemocratic to want to stop Brexit..
Clearly have no understanding how democracy works.
To stifle such opposing views is the real anti-democracy.
But then what do you expect when the public is fed such tripe from the right wing media in this country.
Who also have the Tory party in their pocket and vehicle jump at their every command.
If you can’t see beyond the lies you have been spoon fed on both sides. Then ask yourself who is the bigger fool...who would of thought that a country having a referendum and respecting the vote of the ppl would be undemacratic Learn something new every day on here lol "
Yup. You do. Alas we know you are being facetious, and haven't understood or learned a thing.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives It is democracy to stop it as brexit was irresponsible with no risk assesment.
Exactly... those who cry it’s undemocratic to want to stop Brexit..
Clearly have no understanding how democracy works.
To stifle such opposing views is the real anti-democracy.
But then what do you expect when the public is fed such tripe from the right wing media in this country.
Who also have the Tory party in their pocket and vehicle jump at their every command.
If you can’t see beyond the lies you have been spoon fed on both sides. Then ask yourself who is the bigger fool..."
That is right they didnt spend 5min to think about the consequences such as what will happen with northern irelans border situation the good friday agreement and as well what the impact on the economy will be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t know how it happened in the First English Civil War.
But if was something like this, then we are just at the very beginning.
We can stop this madness before it starts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well Nigel said. “I never said it would be a beneficial thing to leave and everyone would be better off”.
So if it’s shit I’m going to pastures new and follow Nigel and his advice when he said: “If Brexit is a disaster, I will go and live abroad. I will go and live somewhere else. “
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you think leaving the EU will end the division your utterly wrong..
It’s just the beginning.well remaining certainly won't heal things either "
Remaining won't heal things. But at least we won't all be worse off for the benefit of a handful of individuals.
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over a year ago
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"Think,how god dam stupid would we look if we didn't come out now, and Europe would have us over a barrel again .its utterly ridiculous people still talking about remain, never voted tory in my life always labour, but this time im voting for the only party thats doing what the people voted for
I’m in a similar situation I’ve never voted labour in my life but I will for them for first time in December.
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Like you even more now! |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
yumsville |
I think this will be known as the UK's Independence Row:
The UK voted for it.
The SNP want it in Scotland (poss Wales and N.Ireland)
Plaid Cymru want it (if Scotland have it)
Labour will grant it in Scotland and NI not UK
Libs will grant it in Scotland not UK
The Greens want it in Scotland not UK
The EU want it in N. Ireland.
Brexit Party want it UK wide (I think)
Tories want it UK wide (I think)
Sinn Fein want it UK wide (so-they-say)
DUP want it UK wide (so-they-say)
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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago
notts |
"Its a democracy ,out full stop, all politicians who still call to remain should be sacked . Apologies feel very strong about this as we voted in a democratic way so we all should basically accept it and move on with our lives "
No point having any elections after the first one under your version of democracy, otherwise known as tyranny of the majority |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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London & the south east
Scotland & Northern Ireland will vote to back remain.
Wales & the rest of England will vote to leave .
Margins will be close in large areas .
They wont be talking or calling britain anything.
They'll be to busy laughing . |
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