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It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results. |
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"Most people have moved on and cherish the peace.
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And/or are able to think about the sources of data.
The OP has moved from the source being The Daily Mail, to "Google". Case closed. |
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I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too. |
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too. "
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? |
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings?"
Because they're not killing women and children in Manchester. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results."
Stands to reason, the IRA is or was a marxist terror group. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So why you voting for Corbyn Clem ??
Im slightly left of Marxism. "
I’ve decided to vote Corbyn today...
So I’ll join you comrade Clem in the Christmas revolution...  |
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There is The IRA, and then there is ‘The IRA’ ... we can’t even tell the difference, and at this stage of the game, neither can ‘They’.
A Leader once quipped, ‘They haven’t gone away you know’...
But, even if he was quizzed on who ‘they’ are, he’d deny ever having known of them.
Excuse me if the above sounds completely insane, but trying to link anybody to ‘The IRA’ these days is nonsense, as even ‘The IRA’ can’t decide if laundering diesel is more profitable than transporting migrants in containers....
Did any of you know that IRA once stood for Irish Racing Automobiles !!
Maybe Corbyn is a fan of fast cars... |
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"There is The IRA, and then there is ‘The IRA’ ... we can’t even tell the difference, and at this stage of the game, neither can ‘They’.
A Leader once quipped, ‘They haven’t gone away you know’...
But, even if he was quizzed on who ‘they’ are, he’d deny ever having known of them.
Excuse me if the above sounds completely insane, but trying to link anybody to ‘The IRA’ these days is nonsense, as even ‘The IRA’ can’t decide if laundering diesel is more profitable than transporting migrants in containers....
Did any of you know that IRA once stood for Irish Racing Automobiles !!
Maybe Corbyn is a fan of fast cars..."
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings?"
It isn’t !!!
They were both bad ! |
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OP 4 + 4 = 10
Everyone knows its a fact! It's not just Daily Mail propaganda. It's common knowledge! It's all over the internet!
I just can't refer you to one single authentic resource that says it.
Do you what OP you are the lowest form of life. You take the blood of terror victims and use it for political leverage. Shame on you! If you had one shred of decency you would show some sensitivity to those victims instead of bandying it about to win a political argument.
I hope to God you never lose you someone you love to genuine terrorism and have someone like you rub their hands in glee because of the ammunition it gives them. You have the mental process of a woodworm in a brick and a ticking stopwatch for a moral compass.
I have lost friends to terrorists. Taken up arms against terrists and it suckens me to know I've been protecting whiny ass big mouth know all no nothing cerebral pygmies like you. You sicken me. |
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"OP 4 + 4 = 10
Everyone knows its a fact! It's not just Daily Mail propaganda. It's common knowledge! It's all over the internet!
I just can't refer you to one single authentic resource that says it.
Do you what OP you are the lowest form of life. You take the blood of terror victims and use it for political leverage. Shame on you! If you had one shred of decency you would show some sensitivity to those victims instead of bandying it about to win a political argument.
I hope to God you never lose you someone you love to genuine terrorism and have someone like you rub their hands in glee because of the ammunition it gives them. You have the mental process of a woodworm in a brick and a ticking stopwatch for a moral compass.
I have lost friends to terrorists. Taken up arms against terrists and it suckens me to know I've been protecting whiny ass big mouth know all no nothing cerebral pygmies like you. You sicken me."
I kind of get where you are coming from - using the death of innocent victims of the troubles to push a load of orange & blue propaganda is not a good plan imho  |
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? It isn’t !!!
They were both bad !"
So.... you reckon that selling arms to SA is a "Tory policy"? I'm assuming you think that if/ when labour get in they'd stop these sales... |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Is this all part of the "victim culture" we seem to be living in?
A victim of those smelly Europeans taking our money and imposing their way of life?
A victim of those greedy Scots picking the pockets of the English?
A victim of LGBT imposing their way of life on us?
A victim of immigrants stealing our benefits AND our jobs (I've never quite worked that one out).
A victim of the IRA
A victim of (insert your own personal hate here)
it just seems to be one endless whinge after another that Brits are victims of this and victims of that.
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? It isn’t !!!
They were both bad !
So.... you reckon that selling arms to SA is a "Tory policy"? I'm assuming you think that if/ when labour get in they'd stop these sales..."
It is a Tory policy. Evidence being, the Tories are currently doing it. And specifically authorised more sales to SA since the last election. Widely reported on multiple news outlets across the UK, and there is parlimatary record, which is referenced in some of the reports.
I'm not a Labour supporter. But they have said they would stop the sales of arms to Saudi Arabia. |
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"OP 4 + 4 = 10
Everyone knows its a fact! It's not just Daily Mail propaganda. It's common knowledge! It's all over the internet!
I just can't refer you to one single authentic resource that says it.
Do you what OP you are the lowest form of life. You take the blood of terror victims and use it for political leverage. Shame on you! If you had one shred of decency you would show some sensitivity to those victims instead of bandying it about to win a political argument.
I hope to God you never lose you someone you love to genuine terrorism and have someone like you rub their hands in glee because of the ammunition it gives them. You have the mental process of a woodworm in a brick and a ticking stopwatch for a moral compass.
I have lost friends to terrorists. Taken up arms against terrists and it suckens me to know I've been protecting whiny ass big mouth know all no nothing cerebral pygmies like you. You sicken me.
I kind of get where you are coming from - using the death of innocent victims of the troubles to push a load of orange & blue propaganda is not a good plan imho "
When I was 8 years old my best friend and his 5 year old sister were shot down in a civilian aircraft with a SAM-7. The survived the crash but were bayonetted to death through the stomach. Why? For politics. To make a headline. It's easy to talk about it like it's nothing more significant than burned toast. Easy to do it from behind your keyboard. Not so easy when you are burying you best friend.
I was disgusted when the Tory newspapers used the Manchester bombings to direct hatred towards Corbyn. How low can humanity possibly sink?
If people on this forum want to shit all over the memories of the victims of the most terrible acts humans are capable of then I'm sorry I'm not standing for it.
Free speech is one thing. This is just tasteless disrespect.
OP you wouldn't know a terrorist if ine bit you in the arse. |
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"Is this all part of the "victim culture" we seem to be living in?
A victim of those smelly Europeans taking our money and imposing their way of life?
A victim of those greedy Scots picking the pockets of the English?
A victim of LGBT imposing their way of life on us?
A victim of immigrants stealing our benefits AND our jobs (I've never quite worked that one out).
A victim of the IRA
A victim of (insert your own personal hate here)
it just seems to be one endless whinge after another that Brits are victims of this and victims of that.
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Some are some aren't. Are the people who died in the London bombings not victims? Are their families not victims too? What about the Manchester bombing? The attacks outside parliament?
To use terrorism as a label to stick on your political enemies is to belittle the pain and suffering inflicted on the victims of actual terrorists. As I've said before. It's insensitive and disrespectful. |
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? It isn’t !!!
They were both bad !
So.... you reckon that selling arms to SA is a "Tory policy"? I'm assuming you think that if/ when labour get in they'd stop these sales...
It is a Tory policy. Evidence being, the Tories are currently doing it. And specifically authorised more sales to SA since the last election. Widely reported on multiple news outlets across the UK, and there is parlimatary record, which is referenced in some of the reports.
I'm not a Labour supporter. But they have said they would stop the sales of arms to Saudi Arabia. "
Interesting stuff! Maybe they'll nationalise BAE to do it..
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"Is this all part of the "victim culture" we seem to be living in?
A victim of those smelly Europeans taking our money and imposing their way of life?
A victim of those greedy Scots picking the pockets of the English?
A victim of LGBT imposing their way of life on us?
A victim of immigrants stealing our benefits AND our jobs (I've never quite worked that one out).
A victim of the IRA
A victim of (insert your own personal hate here)
it just seems to be one endless whinge after another that Brits are victims of this and victims of that.
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How did you mark the Transgender Day of Remembrance? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I put on a posh frock and went to the pub.
Long story, but I had some distressing news yesterday that left me feeling quite numb with shock.
Spurs fan eh? "
Lol no.
A sudden death.
Not TG.
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"I put on a posh frock and went to the pub.
Long story, but I had some distressing news yesterday that left me feeling quite numb with shock.
Spurs fan eh?
Lol no.
A sudden death.
Not TG.
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Sorry to hear that, good gag though wasn't it?! |
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? It isn’t !!!
They were both bad !
So.... you reckon that selling arms to SA is a "Tory policy"? I'm assuming you think that if/ when labour get in they'd stop these sales..."
They have oil ! So will Probbally continue whatever happens !
Personally I’d like to see no arms sales from this country to anyone !
Make our own for our own defence and don’t buy any in either ! |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Most people have moved on and cherish the peace.
Forget the passed at our peril"
And ask yourself which of the candidates to become PM is more or less likely to stoke the flames and injustice of division that gave rise to violence in the first place?
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? It isn’t !!!
They were both bad !
So.... you reckon that selling arms to SA is a "Tory policy"? I'm assuming you think that if/ when labour get in they'd stop these sales... They have oil ! So will Probbally continue whatever happens !
Personally I’d like to see no arms sales from this country to anyone !
Make our own for our own defence and don’t buy any in either !"
Ive said for a long time we should re-arm and take back France. |
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"I'm afraid the stuff you wrote about Corbyn and the IRA is untrue. You could look up the facts on that yourself if you wanted. He has a long and documented history of condeming violence.
Abbot did say something dumb in the past, though, I seem to remember. McDonnell too.
Also, why is talking to members of the IRA somehow worse than the Tory policy of selling bombs to the Saudi terror state to drop onto schools and weddings, and funerals of those who died at the aforementioned schools and weddings? It isn’t !!!
They were both bad !
So.... you reckon that selling arms to SA is a "Tory policy"? I'm assuming you think that if/ when labour get in they'd stop these sales... They have oil ! So will Probbally continue whatever happens !
Personally I’d like to see no arms sales from this country to anyone !
Make our own for our own defence and don’t buy any in either !
Ive said for a long time we should re-arm and take back France. "
Lol , Nope !
We should keep our mits off everyone but make sure we are strong enough to make sure know one is daft enough to have a pop at us !
Defence should be defence !
If we ask ourselves could we be invaded or allow an air attack and the answer is yes , then we need to strengthen !
Pretty simple ! |
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Personally I’d like to see no arms sales from this country to anyone !
Make our own for our own defence and don’t buy any in either !"
You need to be able to sell it though to be able to afford to build it in the first place, unless it's 100% government funded. |
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Personally I’d like to see no arms sales from this country to anyone !
Make our own for our own defence and don’t buy any in either !
You need to be able to sell it though to be able to afford to build it in the first place, unless it's 100% government funded. "
Yes I’d consider that !
Defence shouldn’t be about making money . |
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Corbyn has sympathised with hamas and hezballah in the past too ......but people don’t want to believe that ...also his personal friendship with Gerry Adams.....I’m not a Johnson fan .... but labour are a laughing stock having corbyn as leader ........Get Andy Burnham as leader and labour thrive again |
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Tory campaign strategy... Dirty Laundry
Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry
We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When its said and done we havent told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry! |
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During the 2017 general election campaign, Boris Johnson tweeted a photo of Corbyn with Martin McGuinness in 1995, deriding his claim to have never met the IRA: “You cannot trust this man!” By the time that photo was taken, the Sinn Féin leader, Gerry Adams, had already shaken hands with the then US president, Bill Clinton; two years later, McGuinness would be a guest in Downing Street. It has been widely reported that Adams and McGuinness were still members of the IRA’s army council at the time. But Clinton, Tony Blair and the Unionist leader David Trimble all held talks with them in their capacity as Sinn Féin politicians – a distinction vital for the entire peace process. |
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"During the 2017 general election campaign, Boris Johnson tweeted a photo of Corbyn with Martin McGuinness in 1995, deriding his claim to have never met the IRA: “You cannot trust this man!” By the time that photo was taken, the Sinn Féin leader, Gerry Adams, had already shaken hands with the then US president, Bill Clinton; two years later, McGuinness would be a guest in Downing Street. It has been widely reported that Adams and McGuinness were still members of the IRA’s army council at the time. But Clinton, Tony Blair and the Unionist leader David Trimble all held talks with them in their capacity as Sinn Féin politicians – a distinction vital for the entire peace process."
...........Tony Blair ...one of the worst prime ministers Britain has ever had .......Bill Clinton... one of the worst presidents the USA has ever had.....desperate measures by desperate men !!!!!!!..........Holding talks and sympathising with the IRA are totally different matters !!
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"During the 2017 general election campaign, Boris Johnson tweeted a photo of Corbyn with Martin McGuinness in 1995, deriding his claim to have never met the IRA: “You cannot trust this man!” By the time that photo was taken, the Sinn Féin leader, Gerry Adams, had already shaken hands with the then US president, Bill Clinton; two years later, McGuinness would be a guest in Downing Street. It has been widely reported that Adams and McGuinness were still members of the IRA’s army council at the time. But Clinton, Tony Blair and the Unionist leader David Trimble all held talks with them in their capacity as Sinn Féin politicians – a distinction vital for the entire peace process............Tony Blair ...one of the worst prime ministers Britain has ever had .......Bill Clinton... one of the worst presidents the USA has ever had.....desperate measures by desperate men !!!!!!!..........Holding talks and sympathising with the IRA are totally different matters !!"
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Of course we can all sympathie with terrorists, they've all got genuine causes worth blowing innocent people into bits and pieces, no five year old is worth the price of freedom from tyranny  .
If there's any reason (and there's loads) not to vote for Corbyn and his hench men on here, this is it.
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"Corbyn has sympathised with hamas and hezballah in the past too ......but people don’t want to believe that ...also his personal friendship with Gerry Adams.....I’m not a Johnson fan .... but labour are a laughing stock having corbyn as leader ........Get Andy Burnham as leader and labour thrive again
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Yes, and so do I. The Palestinians have been dealt with very badly.
That's not to say I agree with terrorists of any sort. But recognising the grievences that drive them to this is the first step to a solution.
Our polititions have always talked to terrorists, they generally end up being the next set of leaders we need to deal with.
Israel was pretty much created by terrorists. The ANC were classified as terrorists by Thatcher. You could even say the USA was formed by terrorists, at least the British of that time thought so. |
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"Corbyn has sympathised with hamas and hezballah in the past too ......but people don’t want to believe that ...also his personal friendship with Gerry Adams.....I’m not a Johnson fan .... but labour are a laughing stock having corbyn as leader ........Get Andy Burnham as leader and labour thrive again
Yes, and so do I. The Palestinians have been dealt with very badly.
That's not to say I agree with terrorists of any sort. But recognising the grievences that drive them to this is the first step to a solution.
Our polititions have always talked to terrorists, they generally end up being the next set of leaders we need to deal with.
Israel was pretty much created by terrorists. The ANC were classified as terrorists by Thatcher. You could even say the USA was formed by terrorists, at least the British of that time thought so."
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Another sympathiser of dead children, the greater cause is obviously going to require some dead kids, you all need to big up on your history children.
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Recognising peoples reasons for killing kids is your first step to freedom, once you've realised there's acceptable circumstances for killing innocents you'll be half way there to becoming a momentum member  |
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Is that to near the knuckle?, will I receive another ban for pointing out the obvious which is almost all Corbyn fan boys on here think killing innocents is worth it for the greater good!.
Remember that floating voters, your for any reason they deem fit worth killing if your in their way or against their ideology.
I don't write this lightly, half of everybody on this forum should be on mi5s watch list, there middle class white Islamists. |
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"Is that to near the knuckle?, will I receive another ban for pointing out the obvious which is almost all Corbyn fan boys on here think killing innocents is worth it for the greater good!.
Remember that floating voters, your for any reason they deem fit worth killing if your in their way or against their ideology.
I don't write this lightly, half of everybody on this forum should be on mi5s watch list, there middle class white Islamists."
I think you'll find I said I don't agree with the method, but sympathise with the grievences and situations that have created these terrorists.
I then pointed out that history shows us that often these terrorists become the leaders of countries we need to deal with.
Therefore, it is sensible for our political leaders to have communication channels available to them.
I'm pretty certain no one has said it's OK to kill children. Unless of course they have the good manners to do it with weapons bought from us of course.
I don't say these things lightly. I was in the Army, a lad I was in training with was blown up in NI.
But our armed forces would still be dying over there, if politicians of all colours had not sat down with terrorists. |
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"Corbyn has sympathised with hamas and hezballah in the past too ......but people don’t want to believe that ...also his personal friendship with Gerry Adams.....I’m not a Johnson fan .... but labour are a laughing stock having corbyn as leader ........Get Andy Burnham as leader and labour thrive again
Yes, and so do I. The Palestinians have been dealt with very badly.
That's not to say I agree with terrorists of any sort. But recognising the grievences that drive them to this is the first step to a solution.
Our polititions have always talked to terrorists, they generally end up being the next set of leaders we need to deal with.
Israel was pretty much created by terrorists. The ANC were classified as terrorists by Thatcher. You could even say the USA was formed by terrorists, at least the British of that time thought so."
The military wing of ANC, umkhonto we sizwe did not wage war against military targets. If you look at the Magoos bombing in Durban and the Pretoria bombing together with the necklace slayings it would be pretty hard to classify them as anything other than terrorists. Of course that particular terrorist leader won a Noble Peace Prize and is considered one of the greatest men who ever lived.
Another famous terrorist Robert Mugabe was put into power by Britain in the Lamcaster house agreements. This terrorist continued to murder and torture his own citizens as well as plunder Zimbabwe in ruins.
As for Syria have a listen to Eva Bartlett giving us a different view on whether our tax money is actually being used to fund terrorists. Also an insight as to how fact based newspaper reporting is....
https://youtu.be/kER6Kheq0rc
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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Might be worth pointing out that Johnson's latest plan for leaving the EU puts a border down The Irish Sea ,,,,,, can you just imagine ( for one moment ) the uproar if a Jeremy Corbyn lead Labour government had done such a thing ,,,, although in the interest of fairness there might not be a border because The Prime Minister said there would be checks then said there wouldn't , while The Brexit Secretary said there wouldn't be checks then said there would ,,,, maybe we should ask someone who knows eg The Brexit Secretary or The Prime Minister |
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"Is that to near the knuckle?, will I receive another ban for pointing out the obvious which is almost all Corbyn fan boys on here think killing innocents is worth it for the greater good!.
Remember that floating voters, your for any reason they deem fit worth killing if your in their way or against their ideology.
I don't write this lightly, half of everybody on this forum should be on mi5s watch list, there middle class white Islamists."
Well then you should do it. It is your civic duty to pick up the phone right now, phone MI5 and let them know that there are middle class marxist terrorists on the forum and we need to be on a watchlist. Failure to do so would be abetting terrorism and make you and accessory after the fact. Hurry now. Children are dying while you wait! Make sure you spell my name properly and be sure to send them a verified pic of you with your dick hanging out just so they know you're serious. |
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Hmmmm. No helicopters overhead. No sirens or flashing lights outside. No SWAT teams crashing through the ceiling. MI5 must be having their lunchbreak.
I guess I'll get back into my pyjamas then.... |
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If you want a serious connsideration of your claims, you need to provide credible evidence. Otherwise it's going to be akin to the many who are just another person who has some axe to grind or spews shit |
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over a year ago
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"The Conservatives have an ex-IRA member holding a seat, weird how we're all good with that."
Yes, I read that, though probably not a rabid right-wing journal.
How do people feel about the US Government sitting down with the Taliban to discuss a peace deal in Afghanistan?
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"The main thing we can learn from this thread is that a lot of people believe anything they see in the right wing media, without question or thought."
Somebody didn't just drink the Tory cool-aid. He fell in the cool aid when he waa a kid like obelix fell into the magic potion and now has supernatural powers of stupidy. |
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"Is that to near the knuckle?, will I receive another ban for pointing out the obvious which is almost all Corbyn fan boys on here think killing innocents is worth it for the greater good!.
Remember that floating voters, your for any reason they deem fit worth killing if your in their way or against their ideology.
I don't write this lightly, half of everybody on this forum should be on mi5s watch list, there middle class white Islamists."
Hey guys. There's a black car parked at the end of my street. Tinted windows and lots of antennae..... I csn just make out two guys wearing suits and sunglasses in the front who keep talking to their wrists...
Should I be worried?
Should I get rid of the fertiliser in my shed? |
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"The main thing we can learn from this thread is that a lot of people believe anything they see in the right wing media, without question or thought."
.......The far left is just as dangerous as the far right ....some people on here need to see that !!
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"The main thing we can learn from this thread is that a lot of people believe anything they see in the right wing media, without question or thought........The far left is just as dangerous as the far right ....some people on here need to see that !!"
Don't make the mistake of thinking that anyone who can think about what the see and read support the "far left". Most of us are somewhere across the middle.
The reason the far right is in focus here is because we have a huge influence in the western world from the far right. Which is specifically designed to split and divide society to make sure that the systems that keep the rich and powerful, rich and powerful. |
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"The main thing we can learn from this thread is that a lot of people believe anything they see in the right wing media, without question or thought........The far left is just as dangerous as the far right ....some people on here need to see that !!"
I agree. Which bit of the Labour manifesto did you think was "far left"? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Yes, imagine if in 2019 someone proposed nationalising healthcare, i.e. the NHS.
"Communist! Marxist! Bankrupt the country!"
Funny thing is, quite a few on the right said exactly that in 1945.
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I am a business man. Here's how it works. Every time the government increases my taxes I charge my customers more to keep my profits the same.
So if you think taxing business is a good way to increase government funding think again. The man on the street will ALWAYS foot the bill. |
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"I am a business man. Here's how it works. Every time the government increases my taxes I charge my customers more to keep my profits the same.
So if you think taxing business is a good way to increase government funding think again. The man on the street will ALWAYS foot the bill."
Not every business makes its money directly from people on the street. IE google, investment bankers etc etc.
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For those who can’t use Google;
“Do you regret your support for the IRA back in the 80s?"
Ms Abbott replied: "That particular quote you're referring to comes from a now defunct left newspaper.
"It was 34 years ago. I had a rather splendid afro at the time. I don't have the same hairstyle and I don't have the same views.
"It is 34 years on. The hairstyle has gone, and some of the views have gone."
So she says her previous views have gone ( meaning they were her views).
But the dogs in the street knows they are still her views. That was the Andrew marr show on live tv in 2017, not a right wing newspaper
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Maycontain is broadly right in what he says. Taxing businesses means everyone will have to pay more towards a better society. That was my problem with austerity, it possibly was necessary initially after the worls banking crisis but it was the people at the bottom that suffered the most. Whereas the people at the top eventually got tax cuts and tax breaks. Eventually austerity was used politically as an excuse towards smaller government. |
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"I am a business man. Here's how it works. Every time the government increases my taxes I charge my customers more to keep my profits the same.
So if you think taxing business is a good way to increase government funding think again. The man on the street will ALWAYS foot the bill.
Not every business makes its money directly from people on the street. IE google, investment bankers etc etc.
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I'm in Aerospace. My end customer builds spacecraft (satellites), their end customer uses cellphones, gps etc. I pass my increased costs on to them which they pay with a smile and then pass on to you who has no choice.
Some of my previous customers have been Coca cola, PepsiCo and Nestle. Same again. They will happily allow me to pass on my costs because they will pass them on to the consumer.
The government wins. I win. Big business wins. The man on the street loses (but thinks he has won so he's happy too). He scratches his head at the end of the day and can't figure out why he can't make ends meet. |
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"Maycontain is broadly right in what he says. Taxing businesses means everyone will have to pay more towards a better society. That was my problem with austerity, it possibly was necessary initially after the worls banking crisis but it was the people at the bottom that suffered the most. Whereas the people at the top eventually got tax cuts and tax breaks. Eventually austerity was used politically as an excuse towards smaller government."
Just to expand on that. Take a hypothetical. Government adds a tax on plane operators for fares. Because every airline faces the same taxation they can all afford to raise their ticket prices to cover the cost of the taxation without losing customers.
End result the government will give £10 extra on your income but your plane ticket went up £20. |
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The PIRA was the best terrorist organisation of modern times.
Best as in professional.
I used to think they were a load of 'Micks' but they contained many clever minds. But they didn't operate as competently as they did without wide support.
Unfortunately, many in this country supported them and still do. |
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"The PIRA was the best terrorist organisation of modern times.
Best as in professional.
I used to think they were a load of 'Micks' but they contained many clever minds. But they didn't operate as competently as they did without wide support.
Unfortunately, many in this country supported them and still do."
And what does it say about one of the two candidates who can realistically be the next PM that Corbyn was an ardent IRA supporter, the shadow Home Secretary applauded every IRA attack as a knife into the Tory establishment and McDonnell to this day has plaques of hunger strikers on his office wall. I was present in Troops out movement meetings in London in the 80s where Corbyn was the keynote speaker. And was in London when Corbyn invited IRA members into the House of Commons hours after the Brighton bombing of the conservative government when politicians and their families were murdered and maimed by the IRA. Fuckin wanker |
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Corbyn is not a supporter of the ira. He met loyalist and republicans during the troubles. He is consistent in condemning any violence no matter who commited. You do realise that the british government be it labour or tory was talking to the pIRA and sinn fein throughout the conflict just in secret. The difference with Corbyn is he was open in who he was talking to. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results."
OP clearly likes to live in the past, the troubles are over, there is peace in NI because of people like JC who created the conditions for the GFA. You should thank them and him to from keeping both loyalists and republicans from an all out war.
So take comfort in the fact that there are people brave enough to say there is a better world out there. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
OP clearly likes to live in the past, the troubles are over, there is peace in NI because of people like JC who created the conditions for the GFA. You should thank them and him to from keeping both loyalists and republicans from an all out war.
So take comfort in the fact that there are people brave enough to say there is a better world out there."
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
OP clearly likes to live in the past, the troubles are over, there is peace in NI because of people like JC who created the conditions for the GFA. You should thank them and him to from keeping both loyalists and republicans from an all out war.
So take comfort in the fact that there are people brave enough to say there is a better world out there.
This"
The troubles are over?... tell that to Lyra McKee’s family. Murdered by an IRA splinter group gunman a few months ago. Or the passers by of numerous IRA splinter groups bomb attacks across northern Ireland this year or people who have had their kneecaps blown off in punishment shootings. Oh yeah but these attacks never happened - they were all made up by the right wing press. Attacks that Corbyn steadfastly refuses to condemn when questioned about them instead using his pathetic weasel words that “all violence is wrong”; weasel words slyly attacking the security forces |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"My thoughts are with the family and loved ones of Lyra McKee, senselessly killed while doing her job as a journalist.
"This shocking attack is a reminder of the vital importance of protecting the Good Friday Agreement and Northern Ireland peace process."
- Jeremy Corbyn
I don't recognise your portrayal of him at all.
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results."
Yes news papers are written by one human being and his or her editors agenda - are printed " have you seen what so and so has done " which could be true or not - usually influenced by politcal and in the case of the daily mail - Tory super rich leaning to the right wing - most " stories are told to influence the reader not always on the facts. Rumor or innuendo to whip up right wing views in some cases - folk wearing the vale Hijab, this can easily as we all know - fuel hate, pitting us against other human beings - who look and act different from " us " in the daily mails eyes - us meaning the reader of the daily mail....
onto the IRA - all Tory have had to secretly talk and meet and be friendly to wards who they are negotiating with, famously Mo Mowlam removing her wig while in friendly and sometimes joking talks with the IRA's political wing and associates. |
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"OP 4 + 4 = 10
Everyone knows its a fact! It's not just Daily Mail propaganda. It's common knowledge! It's all over the internet!
I just can't refer you to one single authentic resource that says it.
Do you what OP you are the lowest form of life. You take the blood of terror victims and use it for political leverage. Shame on you! If you had one shred of decency you would show some sensitivity to those victims instead of bandying it about to win a political argument.
I hope to God you never lose you someone you love to genuine terrorism and have someone like you rub their hands in glee because of the ammunition it gives them. You have the mental process of a woodworm in a brick and a ticking stopwatch for a moral compass.
I have lost friends to terrorists. Taken up arms against terrists and it suckens me to know I've been protecting whiny ass big mouth know all no nothing cerebral pygmies like you. You sicken me.
I kind of get where you are coming from - using the death of innocent victims of the troubles to push a load of orange & blue propaganda is not a good plan imho
When I was 8 years old my best friend and his 5 year old sister were shot down in a civilian aircraft with a SAM-7. The survived the crash but were bayonetted to death through the stomach. Why? For politics. To make a headline. It's easy to talk about it like it's nothing more significant than burned toast. Easy to do it from behind your keyboard. Not so easy when you are burying you best friend.
I was disgusted when the Tory newspapers used the Manchester bombings to direct hatred towards Corbyn. How low can humanity possibly sink?
If people on this forum want to shit all over the memories of the victims of the most terrible acts humans are capable of then I'm sorry I'm not standing for it.
Free speech is one thing. This is just tasteless disrespect.
OP you wouldn't know a terrorist if ine bit you in the arse."
The Daily Mail should be used to wipe your ars on, it wld save on falking out for shit roll, but only to have the print on your ars lol, All Governments have to use diplomats and stealth channels to bring to end - troubles - wars - and battles being fought - All end this way. The labour leader has been a bridge for this in him trying to negotiate and end the blood shed - over the water and in the middle east, to build a rapor with the unsavories your talking to you " have to " be friendly and build a rapor, the gossip news rags who soemtimes tell the truth, simply paints its subject to appear usually in right wing views - they print lies sometimes. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
Yes news papers are written by one human being and his or her editors agenda - are printed " have you seen what so and so has done " which could be true or not - usually influenced by politcal and in the case of the daily mail - Tory super rich leaning to the right wing - most " stories are told to influence the reader not always on the facts. Rumor or innuendo to whip up right wing views in some cases - folk wearing the vale Hijab, this can easily as we all know - fuel hate, pitting us against other human beings - who look and act different from " us " in the daily mails eyes - us meaning the reader of the daily mail....
onto the IRA - all Tory have had to secretly talk and meet and be friendly to wards who they are negotiating with, famously Mo Mowlam removing her wig while in friendly and sometimes joking talks with the IRA's political wing and associates."
The issue here is that the Tories met the IRA for peace talks while they were in power. The same can not be said for JC. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
Yes news papers are written by one human being and his or her editors agenda - are printed " have you seen what so and so has done " which could be true or not - usually influenced by politcal and in the case of the daily mail - Tory super rich leaning to the right wing - most " stories are told to influence the reader not always on the facts. Rumor or innuendo to whip up right wing views in some cases - folk wearing the vale Hijab, this can easily as we all know - fuel hate, pitting us against other human beings - who look and act different from " us " in the daily mails eyes - us meaning the reader of the daily mail....
onto the IRA - all Tory have had to secretly talk and meet and be friendly to wards who they are negotiating with, famously Mo Mowlam removing her wig while in friendly and sometimes joking talks with the IRA's political wing and associates.
The issue here is that the Tories met the IRA for peace talks while they were in power. The same can not be said for JC."
JC was never in power but has consistently worked towards making the world more peaceful. Should he only do that while in power? |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
Yes news papers are written by one human being and his or her editors agenda - are printed " have you seen what so and so has done " which could be true or not - usually influenced by politcal and in the case of the daily mail - Tory super rich leaning to the right wing - most " stories are told to influence the reader not always on the facts. Rumor or innuendo to whip up right wing views in some cases - folk wearing the vale Hijab, this can easily as we all know - fuel hate, pitting us against other human beings - who look and act different from " us " in the daily mails eyes - us meaning the reader of the daily mail....
onto the IRA - all Tory have had to secretly talk and meet and be friendly to wards who they are negotiating with, famously Mo Mowlam removing her wig while in friendly and sometimes joking talks with the IRA's political wing and associates.
The issue here is that the Tories met the IRA for peace talks while they were in power. The same can not be said for JC.
JC was never in power but has consistently worked towards making the world more peaceful. Should he only do that while in power?"
He could try doing it looking like a statesman rather than a fanboy. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
Yes news papers are written by one human being and his or her editors agenda - are printed " have you seen what so and so has done " which could be true or not - usually influenced by politcal and in the case of the daily mail - Tory super rich leaning to the right wing - most " stories are told to influence the reader not always on the facts. Rumor or innuendo to whip up right wing views in some cases - folk wearing the vale Hijab, this can easily as we all know - fuel hate, pitting us against other human beings - who look and act different from " us " in the daily mails eyes - us meaning the reader of the daily mail....
onto the IRA - all Tory have had to secretly talk and meet and be friendly to wards who they are negotiating with, famously Mo Mowlam removing her wig while in friendly and sometimes joking talks with the IRA's political wing and associates.
The issue here is that the Tories met the IRA for peace talks while they were in power. The same can not be said for JC.
JC was never in power but has consistently worked towards making the world more peaceful. Should he only do that while in power?"
So, was he representing the labour party and the uk, or Jeremy Corbyn? |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results.
Yes news papers are written by one human being and his or her editors agenda - are printed " have you seen what so and so has done " which could be true or not - usually influenced by politcal and in the case of the daily mail - Tory super rich leaning to the right wing - most " stories are told to influence the reader not always on the facts. Rumor or innuendo to whip up right wing views in some cases - folk wearing the vale Hijab, this can easily as we all know - fuel hate, pitting us against other human beings - who look and act different from " us " in the daily mails eyes - us meaning the reader of the daily mail....
onto the IRA - all Tory have had to secretly talk and meet and be friendly to wards who they are negotiating with, famously Mo Mowlam removing her wig while in friendly and sometimes joking talks with the IRA's political wing and associates.
The issue here is that the Tories met the IRA for peace talks while they were in power. The same can not be said for JC.
JC was never in power but has consistently worked towards making the world more peaceful. Should he only do that while in power?
So, was he representing the labour party and the uk, or Jeremy Corbyn?"
Jeremy corbyn and the human race. He met both sides. Still Condemned violence from both sides. |
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"Maycontain is broadly right in what he says. Taxing businesses means everyone will have to pay more towards a better society. That was my problem with austerity, it possibly was necessary initially after the worls banking crisis but it was the people at the bottom that suffered the most. Whereas the people at the top eventually got tax cuts and tax breaks. Eventually austerity was used politically as an excuse towards smaller government.
Just to expand on that. Take a hypothetical. Government adds a tax on plane operators for fares. Because every airline faces the same taxation they can all afford to raise their ticket prices to cover the cost of the taxation without losing customers.
End result the government will give £10 extra on your income but your plane ticket went up £20."
I understand where you're coming from. Although many who are not buying much in the way of luxury goods and services as it's beyond their means anyway would effectively be paying a lesser percentage in relation to the population. |
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"It seems that many on here are either genuinely unaware or, as many Labour Party supporters choose to do, ignore the facts concerning leading members of the Labour Party’s support for the IRA over the years. There is no evidence, what evidence ?, it’s just Daily Mail fake news the lefties shout. Just google Diane Abbot ira, or the other 2 with Ira at the end of the search string. And this is of course just media reporting. There is mountains of intelligence reporting leading Labour Party members of all ranks to support for various terrorist groupings . Abbot clearly supported the Ira in the 80s and has recently admitted it. McDonnell has also admitted it. And Corbyn has never, not once, despite being asked numerous times, denounced the Ira . As I said in earlier posts, you really are a member of the flat earth society if you can’t even google someone’s name , followed by “Ira” and be unable to read the results."
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