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"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? " Because bojo acts like lovable buffoon and people are dumb  | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? " Public opinion is swayed by those who own the press. I think a lot of people don't vote for Tory as much as they vote against Corbyn. As Hilary Clinton said, it's getting more and more difficult for the voter to know what is real and what is not. | |||
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"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under" If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. | |||
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"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. " Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. | |||
"i dint belive anything any of them say be they toty labour lib dems or anyone else hence why i not even registerd to vote.i was just giving my opinion.and yea some other leader would prob be smeared aswell although mabey not as easy as jezza boy.a life time of being a professional pain in the arse to his party gives the plenty of ammunition" I made the mistake of not voting in the referendum. I thought it was a slam dunk and that there was no way we could be so stupid as to screw ourselves. Apparently a lot of expats living overseas thought the same and didn't use their mail or proxy vote. If they had they wouldn't find themselves in a position of being cut off in a foreign country. Many of them may be forced to return to the UK. So if you think the system is overburdened now..... | |||
"i dint belive anything any of them say be they toty labour lib dems or anyone else hence why i not even registerd to vote.i was just giving my opinion.and yea some other leader would prob be smeared aswell although mabey not as easy as jezza boy.a life time of being a professional pain in the arse to his party gives the plenty of ammunition I made the mistake of not voting in the referendum. I thought it was a slam dunk and that there was no way we could be so stupid as to screw ourselves. Apparently a lot of expats living overseas thought the same and didn't use their mail or proxy vote. If they had they wouldn't find themselves in a position of being cut off in a foreign country. Many of them may be forced to return to the UK. So if you think the system is overburdened now....." . Forced repatriation?. | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? " Beats me tbh.  | |||
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"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? " Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic." Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. " This x 1,000,000  | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything" Oh please stop listening to the media he is neither anti semetic not a terrorist supporter. | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything" So dark so dystopian .You should write comic books..  | |||
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"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything" Funny you should mention this. What hasn't received a lot of coverage is that the people backing Boris Johnson have shorted the pound. For me this is alarming. The people controlling our Prime Minister are "betting against the UK". The more we as a people fail the more money they make. No wonder BJ was so hell bent on getting us out of the EU by 31st October regardless. For me this is a serious conflict of interest. | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything" Just to back up my last post... “They are shorting the pound and the country, with the British people the main loser,” Macpherson warned, after Hammond wrote that some of Johnson’s City supporters have bet billions of pounds on a hard Brexit. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/29/ex-top-civil-servant-hammond-was-right-to-query-no-deal-backers Basically if Corbyn destroyed the UK then Johnson's backers would make a fortune. Um.... | |||
"I find it interesting that nobody has given a positive reason to vote Tory. So far, the only reasons given are based on fear of an alternative to Tory rule." That's because there aren't many. But here's the thing, as seen from this thread, many people are more scared of a Corbyn led Labour government than they are of a Conservative BREXIT so, when given the choice, many are saying they'll vote for what they believe is the least worst option. I do genuinely believe that if Labour had almost any other leader, even Emily Thornberry, they'd walk this election but they don't. It's not that people don't trust Corbyn, quite the opposite, they absolutely do trust him to do all the things that he's said he wants to do over the last 30 to 40 years and its just not what they want. | |||
"i dint belive anything any of them say be they toty labour lib dems or anyone else hence why i not even registerd to vote.i was just giving my opinion.and yea some other leader would prob be smeared aswell although mabey not as easy as jezza boy.a life time of being a professional pain in the arse to his party gives the plenty of ammunition I made the mistake of not voting in the referendum. I thought it was a slam dunk and that there was no way we could be so stupid as to screw ourselves. Apparently a lot of expats living overseas thought the same and didn't use their mail or proxy vote. If they had they wouldn't find themselves in a position of being cut off in a foreign country. Many of them may be forced to return to the UK. So if you think the system is overburdened now....." you got me mixed up with someone else i dont care what happens to be honest ive not voted for years its pointless they do as thwy please.you asked why would someone vote tory i gave my opinion.nothing more.i think there all useless . | |||
"i dint belive anything any of them say be they toty labour lib dems or anyone else hence why i not even registerd to vote.i was just giving my opinion.and yea some other leader would prob be smeared aswell although mabey not as easy as jezza boy.a life time of being a professional pain in the arse to his party gives the plenty of ammunition I made the mistake of not voting in the referendum. I thought it was a slam dunk and that there was no way we could be so stupid as to screw ourselves. Apparently a lot of expats living overseas thought the same and didn't use their mail or proxy vote. If they had they wouldn't find themselves in a position of being cut off in a foreign country. Many of them may be forced to return to the UK. So if you think the system is overburdened now..... you got me mixed up with someone else i dont care what happens to be honest ive not voted for years its pointless they do as thwy please.you asked why would someone vote tory i gave my opinion.nothing more.i think there all useless ." I hear you. But let me put it another way. If you don't vote to change things you have no right to complain about the way things are. You're either part of the problem, part of the solution or you're part of the landscape. Heat. What a good movie | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. " Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. | |||
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"I'm pretty sure if Labour wasn't so far left they would be in power by now. They don't deserve it but the tories will get my vote. If the current opposition were in power the country would be bankrupt soon with the amount of money they say they're going to spend. The super rich will be living and banking in other countries. " Why vote for the Conservatives? | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them." Not controlled. Influenced. | |||
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"again i not complaining i just answerd your question on why would someone vote tory.you may not agree with the answer but judging by the other posts seems a lot agree with me anyone else leading labour they would win by a landslide even most labour m.ps dont want him as leader but you are where you are.myself i will carry on laughing at how inept they all are.hey if you think you could do better mabey run as a candidate nxt time.perhaps having normal people doing the job might work out. better than having professional politicians " I agree with you. I think they are inept and have made us the laughing stock of Europe. On the bright side if we did elect Corbyn and he did turn out to be Satan incarnate as advertised in the press, it's not like we only have an election every 100 years. As the song goes, maybe the monster wasn't roaring, it was weeping. By the way my favourite Alfred E Neuman quote is: "Crime does not pay.... as well as politics" | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? " Because they have been lied too and convinced the economic harm of Brexit will give them everything they have been told they want maybe? | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? " 1 Brexit 2 Defence 3 Labour is turning communist 4 Lib Dems anti democratic 5 all arties are rubbish these das but Tories best of a bad bunch 6 Voting labour is a vote for poverty 7 I have a brain so who else to vote for? | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them." Markets are manipulated by people with big bucks, yeah they don't control them but they can heavily influence sections of it., | |||
" 1 Brexit 2 Defence 3 Labour is turning communist 4 Lib Dems anti democratic 5 all arties are rubbish these das but Tories best of a bad bunch 6 Voting labour is a vote for poverty 7 I have a brain so who else to vote for?" 1 and 6 = same thing, 7....well... | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything Oh please stop listening to the media he is neither anti semetic not a terrorist supporter." Purely based on the evidence . Start watching the news | |||
"I'm pretty sure if Labour wasn't so far left they would be in power by now. They don't deserve it but the tories will get my vote. If the current opposition were in power the country would be bankrupt soon with the amount of money they say they're going to spend. The super rich will be living and banking in other countries. " But Labour aren’t far left at all. It only looks that way as the Tories have moved so at right to appease the Brexit party voters. -Matt | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything Oh please stop listening to the media he is neither anti semetic not a terrorist supporter." so this is the only Internet site you go on, try looking at others and you can watch JCs speeches. It's not the media making it up. | |||
"I'm pretty sure if Labour wasn't so far left they would be in power by now. They don't deserve it but the tories will get my vote. If the current opposition were in power the country would be bankrupt soon with the amount of money they say they're going to spend. The super rich will be living and banking in other countries. But Labour aren’t far left at all. It only looks that way as the Tories have moved so at right to appease the Brexit party voters. -Matt" Yeah it’s a perspective issue.Im sure labour policies would seem centre left in liberal Scandinavian countries. | |||
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"I find it interesting that nobody has given a positive reason to vote Tory. So far, the only reasons given are based on fear of an alternative to Tory rule. That's because there aren't many. But here's the thing, as seen from this thread, many people are more scared of a Corbyn led Labour government than they are of a Conservative BREXIT so, when given the choice, many are saying they'll vote for what they believe is the least worst option. I do genuinely believe that if Labour had almost any other leader, even Emily Thornberry, they'd walk this election but they don't. It's not that people don't trust Corbyn, quite the opposite, they absolutely do trust him to do all the things that he's said he wants to do over the last 30 to 40 years and its just not what they want. " no chance Emily thornberry is more toxic than Diane Abbott have you seen her on question time her performance on there was the worse iv ever seen soon as thornberry Abbott Corbyn are gone which souls be after this GE then I can vote labour again | |||
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"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything Oh please stop listening to the media he is neither anti semetic not a terrorist supporter. Purely based on the evidence . Start watching the news" Just saw it on the news. 4 + 4 = 10. Must be true. News is not evidence. It's probably the opposite. Ever heard the expression "never let the truth get in the way of a good story"? | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? 1 Brexit 2 Defence 3 Labour is turning communist 4 Lib Dems anti democratic 5 all arties are rubbish these das but Tories best of a bad bunch 6 Voting labour is a vote for poverty 7 I have a brain so who else to vote for?" 6? I didn't realise that we were all so rich! Yes we are a rich country but 44% of the country's wealth is held by 10% of the population. A disproportionate percentage are below the poverty line. | |||
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"Totally... Why on earth do people still vote Tories, or even worst: Tories supported by Trump and his Brexit party? Curious." Because they fear their own shadow? | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? Because the alternative has always been far far worse and during this election, the prospect of an extreme left wing, anti semetic , terrorist supporting government led by the momentum puppet would be the end for the UK. He would simply destroy everything Oh please stop listening to the media he is neither anti semetic not a terrorist supporter.so this is the only Internet site you go on, try looking at others and you can watch JCs speeches. It's not the media making it up." No its the muppets who believe everything they read in the daily mail that are the problem. | |||
" Like a deficit of 1.2 trillion despite austerity costing 130 . 000 preventable deaths and over a billion quid in costs for benefit appeals which were re instated after being wrongly withdrawn, the removal of legal aid , meaning women who sought divorce on the grounds of domestic abuse , had to face their abuser over again, the decimation of emergency service provision social care, the NHS, mental health, 20,000 police lost violent crime has doubled, the criminalising of homeless people, HOW are these callous bastards better than any one else, and now we are if they have their way about to sell off this country, most valuable asset , its health care service , to ,of all people a fucking narcissist puppet of the russian federation who loves nothing better than the company of other megalomaniacs , dictators and criminals bent on pillage of their own countries resources and murdering those who dissent. Pleass give me a clue , in what way and by what measure these fuckers are the best ? Exploitation ? Arms dealing? Or just showing the depicable cowardly indifferent face of politics. " Now thats my kind of thinking | |||
"I find it interesting that nobody has given a positive reason to vote Tory. So far, the only reasons given are based on fear of an alternative to Tory rule." Well, quite. Unless you're one of their kind, they have no interest in you; so there are no positive reasons. It really is all about exploiting your fears and appealing to your selfishness. Making the world a better place for the majority involves some degree of personal sacrifice from the minority - which is something Tories and their kind cannot contemplate and will not vote for. Their wealth isolates them from the genuine social evils their policies inflict on others less fortunate; which is how they like it. If you vote Tory, you are Tory. You can't be "a little bit pregnant". | |||
"A vote for the tories is a vote for: 1. More Crime not less. 2. Tax breaks for the rich ( I am under the impression that many of you are super rich with yachts) 3. A worst off NHS. 4. A brexit so hard that it puts concrete to shame. 5. More people going to food banks 6. Scrapping of HS2 7. The north and midlands being left out again 8. Reacting to crisis instead anticipating and preparing 9. The culture of zero hour contracts 10. Decreased life expectancy 11. Selling Arms to totalitarian regimes 12. More corruption 13. Disabled people being force to pay bedroom tax 14. More Racism 15. Poor people being victimised 16. Being dictated to by Russian oligarchs. 17. Further reductions to council budgets and services to non existent levels. 18. Wasting money on no deal brexit preparations 19. More incompetence at the top 20. More lies to cover up their total ineptitude at the top. So this is the impression I get if you vote Tory." Austerity caused by labour bankrupting country remember that. | |||
"A vote for the tories is a vote for: 1. More Crime not less. 2. Tax breaks for the rich ( I am under the impression that many of you are super rich with yachts) 3. A worst off NHS. 4. A brexit so hard that it puts concrete to shame. 5. More people going to food banks 6. Scrapping of HS2 7. The north and midlands being left out again 8. Reacting to crisis instead anticipating and preparing 9. The culture of zero hour contracts 10. Decreased life expectancy 11. Selling Arms to totalitarian regimes 12. More corruption 13. Disabled people being force to pay bedroom tax 14. More Racism 15. Poor people being victimised 16. Being dictated to by Russian oligarchs. 17. Further reductions to council budgets and services to non existent levels. 18. Wasting money on no deal brexit preparations 19. More incompetence at the top 20. More lies to cover up their total ineptitude at the top. So this is the impression I get if you vote Tory.Austerity caused by labour bankrupting country remember that. " Absolute cock....austerity caused by the tories banker chums crashing the world’s economy for the sake of a cheap buck | |||
"A vote for the tories is a vote for: 1. More Crime not less. 2. Tax breaks for the rich ( I am under the impression that many of you are super rich with yachts) 3. A worst off NHS. 4. A brexit so hard that it puts concrete to shame. 5. More people going to food banks 6. Scrapping of HS2 7. The north and midlands being left out again 8. Reacting to crisis instead anticipating and preparing 9. The culture of zero hour contracts 10. Decreased life expectancy 11. Selling Arms to totalitarian regimes 12. More corruption 13. Disabled people being force to pay bedroom tax 14. More Racism 15. Poor people being victimised 16. Being dictated to by Russian oligarchs. 17. Further reductions to council budgets and services to non existent levels. 18. Wasting money on no deal brexit preparations 19. More incompetence at the top 20. More lies to cover up their total ineptitude at the top. So this is the impression I get if you vote Tory.Austerity caused by labour bankrupting country remember that. Absolute cock....austerity caused by the tories banker chums crashing the world’s economy for the sake of a cheap buck" Fully agree | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. Not controlled. Influenced." If you knew how much money was traded on the markets every day, and by how many people you'd understand that nobody influences them. It's one of the most common misconceptions that people influence the markets. | |||
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"I want to leave the EU ! No other reason tbh !" The main group of individuals in the UK who will benefit personally from brexit, is some of the top echelons of the Tory party and their immediate friends and family. A vote for the Tories is always a vote to be worse off for their personal benefit. Now more than ever. | |||
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"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. Not controlled. Influenced. If you knew how much money was traded on the markets every day, and by how many people you'd understand that nobody influences them. It's one of the most common misconceptions that people influence the markets. " Well so glad we've got you who knows everything to tell me how stupid I am. Thank you. | |||
"Because the Tories offer far more than the Labour Party and have a clear plane on Brexit, immigration etc. Any idea what Labour's plans are? Privatise broadband? What utter rubbish. Is that the best they can come up with? There are over 600 suppliers of broadband in this country, Sky has 6 million broadband customers. How much will that cost to compensate these businesses? Whoops sorry, the country is now bankrupt. " Are you saying the Tories have a clear plan for brexit? Because from where everyone else is sitting. It looks like they're clueless headless chickens running around. And their immigration rhetoric is horrific. | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. Not controlled. Influenced. If you knew how much money was traded on the markets every day, and by how many people you'd understand that nobody influences them. It's one of the most common misconceptions that people influence the markets. Well so glad we've got you who knows everything to tell me how stupid I am. Thank you." I don't think that's what I said at all. If I was saying things which someone knew for sure to be innacurate I'd expect them to share what they knew. That's not saying someone's stupid. | |||
"Totally... Why on earth do people still vote Tories, or even worst: Tories supported by Trump and his Brexit party? Curious. Because they fear their own shadow? "  | |||
"Over the course of years, they've enforced ruinous austerity. Poverty rates have shot up. Homelessness has spiralled. Use of food banks has rocketed. Hospital waiting times have hit an all time high. And then there's Brexit. It's estimated to have already cost the country tens of billions due to lost economic growth. And Brexit was called for Tory party reasons. Cameron called the referendum purely to deal with rebels in his own party. Brexit, too, is a Tory failing. So why on Earth do people still want to vote Tory? 1 Brexit 2 Defence 3 Labour is turning communist 4 Lib Dems anti democratic 5 all arties are rubbish these das but Tories best of a bad bunch 6 Voting labour is a vote for poverty 7 I have a brain so who else to vote for?" 4 Lib Dem’s are NOT anti democratic. They have a position on Brexit along with other policies that they are putting to to people in a general election. You choose to vote for them or not.... That’s how democracy works. Also in a democracy you have the right to change your mind. A bit like when you buy a house and the survey tells you it has no foundations or roof. You have the right change your mind and pull out of the deal. | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. Not controlled. Influenced. If you knew how much money was traded on the markets every day, and by how many people you'd understand that nobody influences them. It's one of the most common misconceptions that people influence the markets. Well so glad we've got you who knows everything to tell me how stupid I am. Thank you. I don't think that's what I said at all. If I was saying things which someone knew for sure to be innacurate I'd expect them to share what they knew. That's not saying someone's stupid. "Well if you look back at your posting and can't see how it is patronising, condescending, pompous and and arrogant then I feel sorry for you. You don't know me. Who I am, what my experience is, what my intellect is. If you have an opinion that differs from mine, by all means argue your point. But telling me that I'm ignorant is not an argument. Just an insult. I used to forex trade, and Alan Greenspan could influence the dollar just by the expression om his face. If Boris Johnson announced Johnson stood up tomorrow and said that he negotiated a deal and all the other parties were behind it and it WAS actually a brilliant deal for the UK.... you're saying it wouldn't affect the markets one iota? Really? | |||
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" A bit like when you buy a house and the survey tells you it has no foundations or roof. You have the right change your mind and pull out of the deal. " If ever there was a perfect description of the Labour party. That is it. | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them." George Soros. More popularly known as the “Man Who Broke the Bank of England” for his large pound short position during the 1992 Black Wednesday UK crisis. | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. " Why don’t you live over here then ? | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ? "Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal. FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped. If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard. | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard."But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU "Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point? Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW. In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave. Happy now? | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU
Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point?
Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW.
In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave.
Happy now?"Of course you are entitled to your opinion, unfortunately for you it is less relevant than someone who lives here ? It must be great to have had the opportunity to live and work in Germany , I can’t see why you would want to try and stop other people from doing the same ?? | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU
Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point?
Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW.
In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave.
Happy now?"Absolutely bonkers. Living in the EU. Would have voted to make your own life more difficult for no reason. This perfectly sums up brexit and or voting Tory. | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU
Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point?
Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW.
In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave.
Happy now?
Absolutely bonkers.
Living in the EU. Would have voted to make your own life more difficult for no reason.
This perfectly sums up brexit and or voting Tory."Exactly why would it make my life more difficult? Any changes would be so small I would hardly notice. Trust me, I checked. BTW. If given the chance Mrs would vote leave for Germany. | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU
Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point?
Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW.
In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave.
Happy now?
Absolutely bonkers.
Living in the EU. Would have voted to make your own life more difficult for no reason.
This perfectly sums up brexit and or voting Tory.
Exactly why would it make my life more difficult?
Any changes would be so small I would hardly notice. Trust me, I checked.
BTW. If given the chance Mrs would vote leave for Germany."The irony is obviously lost on you . | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU
Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point?
Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW.
In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave.
Happy now?
Absolutely bonkers.
Living in the EU. Would have voted to make your own life more difficult for no reason.
This perfectly sums up brexit and or voting Tory.
Exactly why would it make my life more difficult?
Any changes would be so small I would hardly notice. Trust me, I checked.
BTW. If given the chance Mrs would vote leave for Germany.
The irony is obviously lost on you . "It obviously is. | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. Not controlled. Influenced. If you knew how much money was traded on the markets every day, and by how many people you'd understand that nobody influences them. It's one of the most common misconceptions that people influence the markets. Well so glad we've got you who knows everything to tell me how stupid I am. Thank you. I don't think that's what I said at all. If I was saying things which someone knew for sure to be innacurate I'd expect them to share what they knew. That's not saying someone's stupid.
Well if you look back at your posting and can't see how it is patronising, condescending, pompous and and arrogant then I feel sorry for you.
You don't know me. Who I am, what my experience is, what my intellect is. If you have an opinion that differs from mine, by all means argue your point. But telling me that I'm ignorant is not an argument. Just an insult.
I used to forex trade, and Alan Greenspan could influence the dollar just by the expression om his face. If Boris Johnson announced Johnson stood up tomorrow and said that he negotiated a deal and all the other parties were behind it and it WAS actually a brilliant deal for the UK.... you're saying it wouldn't affect the markets one iota? Really?"Again, I didn't say you were ignorant. Your responses are baffling. I'm out. | |||
"probably cant vote labour while corbyn is leading them.i belive if it was someone else leading the party they would walk an election.yea the membership worship the ground he walks on rest of the country not so much.just my opinion.wont be voting for any of the halfwits no matter what coulour flag they are under If someone else was leading labour then the Tory smear campaign would shift onto whoever succeeded him and the people of the UK would have a new antichrist to hate. Think about this. Corbyn is after the mega rich. The mega rich control the press for the masses. Do you think they will ever have one good thing to say about Corbyn? Personally I don't believe anything that pops up on my smartphone or hits the news headlines. Corbyn is a multi millionaire himself, so I don't see the logic. Let us define mega rich. Not just someone who owns hundreds of millions but someone who can afford to lose tens of millions on the markets. Of course you can't lose on the markets when you own the politicians.... Probably what is more important is where the majority of Tory funding comes from and where labour funding comes from. Big business acts in the interests of big businesses, not necessarily the wellbeing of the country. Then you don't understand the markets. No one controls them. Not controlled. Influenced. If you knew how much money was traded on the markets every day, and by how many people you'd understand that nobody influences them. It's one of the most common misconceptions that people influence the markets. Well so glad we've got you who knows everything to tell me how stupid I am. Thank you. I don't think that's what I said at all. If I was saying things which someone knew for sure to be innacurate I'd expect them to share what they knew. That's not saying someone's stupid.
Well if you look back at your posting and can't see how it is patronising, condescending, pompous and and arrogant then I feel sorry for you.
You don't know me. Who I am, what my experience is, what my intellect is. If you have an opinion that differs from mine, by all means argue your point. But telling me that I'm ignorant is not an argument. Just an insult.
I used to forex trade, and Alan Greenspan could influence the dollar just by the expression om his face. If Boris Johnson announced Johnson stood up tomorrow and said that he negotiated a deal and all the other parties were behind it and it WAS actually a brilliant deal for the UK.... you're saying it wouldn't affect the markets one iota? Really?
Again, I didn't say you were ignorant.
Your responses are baffling. I'm out.""Then you don't understand the markets." Is calling someone ignorant. It doesn't present an argument it just belittles the other persons point of view. | |||
"Original question. Tories. Why vote for them? The answer is quite simple really. Every Labour government (the only credible alternative) has promised the earth (sound familiar?) in the short term delivered it, but then completely screwed up the country's finances. Attlee promised the NHS and the welfare state and, to be fair, delivered it. However people were still having to carry ration books in 1950. A whole 5 years after the war. Up popped Wilson in the (pardon the pun) swinging 60's and within a few short years had turned the "never had it so good" 1950's into having to devalue the pound. After a short Tory interlude Wilson turned up again in the mid 70's, soon to be followed by Callaghan. Between them they managed to get the country in hock to the IMF and the nickname "sick man of Europe" After the booming 1980's (and like it or not, it was booming) we got Blair. Again the earth was promised and in the short term delivered. What very few people realised it that Teflon Tony was ramping up borrowing like there was no tomorrow and flogging off the nations gold reserves at fire sale prices. Well for him there was no tomorrow because just before the shit hit the fan he fucked off and dropped the whole sorry mess into Browns lap. Remember the note left at the treasury in 2010? "There's no money left, we've spent it all" So now we've got Corbyn making promises on a biblical scale that I'm pretty sure he will do his best to keep. However when the shit hits after him we are going to need a bigger fan. That is why anyone with a life expectancy of more than 5 years must vote Tory. The alternative is far too horrible to contemplate. Why don’t you live over here then ?
Yep that just sums it up. No argument so get personal.
FYI. I actually left the UK when Blair was PM. It wasn't my over riding reason to leave but it certainly helped.
If my personal circumstances changed I would have no problem going back to the UK. However a Corbyn government would make me think VERY hard.
But we have had a Tory government for 9 years,? If things are so great in the UK then I can’t see why you wouldn’t return ? Did you vote to leave the EU
Why should I move back? Do you expect me to divorce my German wife? Or get her to give up her business just to prove a point?
Bottom line is that I am very settled in my life and certainly see no need to change it. Also, just because I no longer live in the UK doesn't mean that I am no longer entitled to an opinion. I still have family there BTW.
In the referendum I wasn't entitled to a vote as I had been out of the UK for over 15 years. However I would have voted leave.
Happy now?
Absolutely bonkers.
Living in the EU. Would have voted to make your own life more difficult for no reason.
This perfectly sums up brexit and or voting Tory.
Exactly why would it make my life more difficult?
Any changes would be so small I would hardly notice. Trust me, I checked.
BTW. If given the chance Mrs would vote leave for Germany."What exactly did you check? Because right now, no one knows what the fuck is going, or how severe brexit is going to be. Plus, why would you care about ruining the UK for the benefit of a handful of ultra rich, from the safety of Germany? Some people are just beyond all reason. | |||
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