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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. " It makes me sick to be honest that as a civilised society there are so many people below the poverty line. For each of the last five years come Christmas time I haven't bought gifts at Christmas, instead donating to the Trussell Trust. Am sure some will try and tell you it isn't happening but I saw it every day when I was a civil servant and I see it everyday in my current job. | |||
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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. It makes me sick to be honest that as a civilised society there are so many people below the poverty line. For each of the last five years come Christmas time I haven't bought gifts at Christmas, instead donating to the Trussell Trust. Am sure some will try and tell you it isn't happening but I saw it every day when I was a civil servant and I see it everyday in my current job." Sadly, it's very real. The report is sickening. The things people have to go through is horrible. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food" That's just not true. I don't know if you're misinformed. But there are thousands of rough sleepers for a start. The very definition of needing a food bank is having no food. | |||
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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. It makes me sick to be honest that as a civilised society there are so many people below the poverty line. For each of the last five years come Christmas time I haven't bought gifts at Christmas, instead donating to the Trussell Trust. Am sure some will try and tell you it isn't happening but I saw it every day when I was a civil servant and I see it everyday in my current job." . I can’t tell you it’s not happening I am a civil servant and today I issued 3 food bank slips | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food" You've been watching too much "poverty porn" | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food That's just not true. I don't know if you're misinformed. But there are thousands of rough sleepers for a start. The very definition of needing a food bank is having no food. " I would have no food if I spent all my money on booze and fags... But then there is the food bank.. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food" I'm sorry but I can't agree with that about self inflicted, not in most cases anyway. Some have a very real choice between heating or eating, some people rent substandard properties, which aren't always ten to a penny or affordable in areas of the country. I've also worked with people that found themselves down on their luck as circumstances or health conspired against them. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food I'm sorry but I can't agree with that about self inflicted, not in most cases anyway. Some have a very real choice between heating or eating, some people rent substandard properties, which aren't always ten to a penny or affordable in areas of the country. I've also worked with people that found themselves down on their luck as circumstances or health conspired against them. " The minority.. build foodbanks and they will come... | |||
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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. It makes me sick to be honest that as a civilised society there are so many people below the poverty line. For each of the last five years come Christmas time I haven't bought gifts at Christmas, instead donating to the Trussell Trust. Am sure some will try and tell you it isn't happening but I saw it every day when I was a civil servant and I see it everyday in my current job.. I can’t tell you it’s not happening I am a civil servant and today I issued 3 food bank slips " I was often issuing 3/4 a week in my time as a Civil Servant. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food I'm sorry but I can't agree with that about self inflicted, not in most cases anyway. Some have a very real choice between heating or eating, some people rent substandard properties, which aren't always ten to a penny or affordable in areas of the country. I've also worked with people that found themselves down on their luck as circumstances or health conspired against them. The minority.. build foodbanks and they will come..." There's a couple within the area I work and they do charge a certain amount a week that contributes to the cost. In my home town the local church is behind another. | |||
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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. It makes me sick to be honest that as a civilised society there are so many people below the poverty line. For each of the last five years come Christmas time I haven't bought gifts at Christmas, instead donating to the Trussell Trust. Am sure some will try and tell you it isn't happening but I saw it every day when I was a civil servant and I see it everyday in my current job.. I can’t tell you it’s not happening I am a civil servant and today I issued 3 food bank slips I was often issuing 3/4 a week in my time as a Civil Servant." . Every day I issue a food bank slip but today the reason I issued 3 today the food bank was open.I expect to issue 2-3 on Thursday and Friday | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves " Then your belief is wrong. And to suggest that all food bank recipients are con artists is disgusting | |||
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"Only the ones I see drinking after collecting their spoils.. " You can only say it as you see it. There will be some who need it, a lot who don't who abuse it. Unfortunately the lot tarnish the some. Near me the foodbank queue was massive at Christmas. It disgusted me watching people carrying boxes back to their 4'4s parked around the corner then waiting for their friends/ family members with their boxes to fill the cars up. Really sickening as there was no doubt people deserving who got nothing as a result. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food That's just not true. I don't know if you're misinformed. But there are thousands of rough sleepers for a start. The very definition of needing a food bank is having no food. " And many of those rough sleepers refuse housing and help and choose to sleep in doorways and park benches . As for poor people - there probably are some poor people but there are significant others who drink heavily, smoke heavily, have expensive mobile phones, constant takeaways , Sky Tv, x boxes, and plenty of other paraphernalia then they are at food banks cos they’ve spent all their money on anything except food and accommodation. | |||
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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. " It can't possibly be true. We have higher employment than ever. Employment being defined as having one hour of work in the last week. You've seen in this thread the disbelief that our country has poverty. People "see" what you want to see. They see the minority gaming the system. The minority is then becomes "most". They don't "see" the poor. though. They are invisible. Outrage always wins. The statistics and facts tell a different story, but that's not a story that creates outrage and anger. It's a story that requires hard work to solve, bit it's easier to blame the victim. | |||
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"I have seen reports of food banks having to ration help to 3 visits a year, and I know that the PDSA are no longer able to offer free veterinary care. Something is very wrong when charities in a country as rich as Britian have to ration charity! " Can't comment on food bank rationing but never heard of it personally, but the PDSA definitely still gives free treatment for those that need it. You been reading the Socialist Worker again, its fucking with your mind  | |||
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"Can't comment on food bank rationing but never heard of it personally, but the PDSA definitely still gives free treatment for those that need it. You been reading the Socialist Worker again, its fucking with your mind "No. But my girlfriend needed to get her cat neutered and I told her to get a quote from a local vet and then go to the PDSA and give the same as a donation... The PDSA now charge for treatment, unless you know different and the PDSA Stoke are going rogue. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food" It is easy to close your eyes and ears to the evidence all around, when your prejudice enables you to blame poverty on poor people. | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves " Sounds like the empathy banks in your neighbourhood long since ran out of any stock. | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves Sounds like the empathy banks in your neighbourhood long since ran out of any stock. " My empathy banks were never full. I don't blame poverty on the poor but the Lord Helps Those Who Help Themselves... Get on your bike and get a job. If your still in poverty get two jobs | |||
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"the Lord Helps Those Who Help Themselves... " biblical scripture on a website for swingers  | |||
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"The Fund for European Aid to the Most Deprived (FEAD) aims to help alleviate the worst forms of poverty in the EU, such as homelessness, child poverty and food deprivation. The UK's total allocation for 2014–2020 was €3.96 million. The money is being returned to the EU because the UK did not spend it. "Just shows how corrupt the EU are  | |||
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"Every day I sit opposite a food bank on a bench.. I sat there before it was a food bank... I watch them collect their food then I see them drinking in my local.. con artists " every day u sit opposite a food bank waching poor buggers go in wtf get a fucking life or a hobby mate | |||
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"Every day I sit opposite a food bank on a bench.. I sat there before it was a food bank... I watch them collect their food then I see them drinking in my local.. con artists every day u sit opposite a food bank waching poor buggers go in wtf get a fucking life or a hobby mate " The only people I see sat on them same bench ever day are the special brew crew.. | |||
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"Every day I sit opposite a food bank on a bench.. I sat there before it was a food bank... I watch them collect their food then I see them drinking in my local.. con artists every day u sit opposite a food bank waching poor buggers go in wtf get a fucking life or a hobby mate The only people I see sat on them same bench ever day are the special brew crew.." bob he’s a long time bench sitter tho sat there before it was a good bank then waches them in his local lol Sounds like a weird stalker to me he be taking pics of them next lol | |||
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"Every day I sit opposite a food bank on a bench.. I sat there before it was a food bank... I watch them collect their food then I see them drinking in my local.. con artists every day u sit opposite a food bank waching poor buggers go in wtf get a fucking life or a hobby mate The only people I see sat on them same bench ever day are the special brew crew..bob he’s a long time bench sitter tho sat there before it was a good bank then waches them in his local lol Sounds like a weird stalker to me he be taking pics of them next lol" Maybe it’s his hobby.Each to their own I suppose.Like train spotting but poverty spotting . | |||
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"Every day I sit opposite a food bank on a bench.. I sat there before it was a food bank... I watch them collect their food then I see them drinking in my local.. con artists every day u sit opposite a food bank waching poor buggers go in wtf get a fucking life or a hobby mate The only people I see sat on them same bench ever day are the special brew crew..bob he’s a long time bench sitter tho sat there before it was a good bank then waches them in his local lol Sounds like a weird stalker to me he be taking pics of them next lol Maybe it’s his hobby.Each to their own I suppose.Like train spotting but poverty spotting ." lmfao poverty spotting can’t wait for his responce | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food That's just not true. I don't know if you're misinformed. But there are thousands of rough sleepers for a start. The very definition of needing a food bank is having no food. I would have no food if I spent all my money on booze and fags... But then there is the food bank.." So for those on Universal credit & who claim housing They have to find the balance of rent. Council tax , phone bill ( if they have one ) Gas/Electric , water rates , tv licence , clothing , I dont think there is a lot left for Fags & Booze To be fair. | |||
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"The Fund for European Aid to the Most Deprived (FEAD) aims to help alleviate the worst forms of poverty in the EU, such as homelessness, child poverty and food deprivation. The UK's total allocation for 2014–2020 was €3.96 million. The money is being returned to the EU because the UK did not spend it.
Just shows how corrupt the EU are "How exactly does that show corruption? It shows either how inept the UK government is, or that they just don't give a shit about these issues. | |||
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"A report was released by the Trussell Trust today. Since the Conservatives have been in power the distribution of food parcels has increased from 61,000 in 2010/11 to 1,583,000 in 2018/19. It's shocking that in 2019 we have such high levels of poverty in the UK. Some of the evidence in the report is awful. With changes and freezes to the benefits system being noted as a hugely significant factor. " This has been fact checked by full fact and they concur with the findings. This is why the conservatives do not deserve another chance at running the country, they will run it further into the ground. So if and when brexit comes along we’ll be all poor and starving. | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food That's just not true. I don't know if you're misinformed. But there are thousands of rough sleepers for a start. The very definition of needing a food bank is having no food. I would have no food if I spent all my money on booze and fags... But then there is the food bank.. So for those on Universal credit & who claim housing They have to find the balance of rent. Council tax , phone bill ( if they have one ) Gas/Electric , water rates , tv licence , clothing , I dont think there is a lot left for Fags & Booze To be fair." . The stories I hear working in a job centre it’s not easy trying to make Universal Credit payments last with regards to paying rent , gas , electricity , food shopping etc etc.Some manage their payments better than others.When they come to see me to request a food bank slip some are embarrassed , some feel it their right to request a bag of shopping then complain that all they are offered are supermarkets own brands as opposed to name brand when they get to the food bank.The food they are given is too last then 3-4 days and is basic food to last them until their payments clear.Yes I see genuine people and yes I see not so genuine people we are told to issue the food bank slip then it’s at the food bank discretion as from what I understand you can only use the food bank 3 times over a 6-12 month period | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food" I’d say some not most, forget the adults, it’s the youth in this society that feel this more. They should garner your sympathy. Starving because their parents do not have enough money to feed them. Parents using food banks to get food. Yeah defining poverty in 6th or 9th (I fact checked that) largest economy is different to defining poverty to say a third world country. We are a first world nation so the baseline is raised higher for poverty here than somewhere else. | |||
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"Can't comment on food bank rationing but never heard of it personally, but the PDSA definitely still gives free treatment for those that need it. You been reading the Socialist Worker again, its fucking with your mind
No. But my girlfriend needed to get her cat neutered and I told her to get a quote from a local vet and then go to the PDSA and give the same as a donation...
The PDSA now charge for treatment, unless you know different and the PDSA Stoke are going rogue."Fair play to you, but the Stoke PCSA are going rogue. Where I am they still offer certain procedures free to those on benefits who qualify. Double check their website if you don't believe me. Fortunately I don't qualify but am friends with someone who does. That may surprise you but yes, I have friends | |||
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"There is no poverty in the UK. Poverty is starving, no clean water, no shelter, no food, no education, no nothing.. Most poverty here is self inflicted.. money for fags and booze but not food I’d say some not most, forget the adults, it’s the youth in this society that feel this more. They should garner your sympathy. Starving because their parents do not have enough money to feed them. Parents using food banks to get food. Yeah defining poverty in 6th or 9th (I fact checked that) largest economy is different to defining poverty to say a third world country. We are a first world nation so the baseline is raised higher for poverty here than somewhere else. " Yes - the baseline is higher. There are two 'traditional' wys of looking at poverty: absolute and relative. Through using measures of relative poverty we can examine the differences across society and who is in poverty based on a specific minimum level. I'd recommend looking at the Social Metric Commission for a highly regarded picture of poverty in the UK. Some notable facts though: An estimated 14.3 million people are in poverty in the UK. 8.3 million are working-age adults, 4.6 million are children, and 1.3 million are of pension age | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius." If you can't afford food you are in poverty. Relative or not. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius." yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out. "That's one of your triggers isn't it? Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax? | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out. "Actually if money is moved from the ultra rich to the poorest, the average wealth remains exactly the same. Average wealth = total amount of money ÷ number of people What does change is that instead of maybe 10 people getting ever more wealthy at the expense of everyone else, the money gets used for the benefit of everybody. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
Actually if money is moved from the ultra rich to the poorest, the average wealth remains exactly the same.
Average wealth = total amount of money ÷ number of people
What does change is that instead of maybe 10 people getting ever more wealthy at the expense of everyone else, the money gets used for the benefit of everybody."we are not talking about moving it we are talking about them leaving the country entirely different things. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
That's one of your triggers isn't it?
Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax?"The difference is mate as you keep telling me they are all greedy bastards who are in it for themselves and they will just up and leave and then you wont have any of it.These people are fluid not like you and me have houses all over the world and can just up and leave at the drop of a hat. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius. If you can't afford food you are in poverty. Relative or not." If you can't afford food then stop spending your cash on booze and fags.. simples really | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
That's one of your triggers isn't it?
Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax?The difference is mate as you keep telling me they are all greedy bastards who are in it for themselves and they will just up and leave and then you wont have any of it.These people are fluid not like you and me have houses all over the world and can just up and leave at the drop of a hat."So what if they leave? They don't pay their taxes anyway. It would be no loss to us all if they did bugger off. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
That's one of your triggers isn't it?
Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax?The difference is mate as you keep telling me they are all greedy bastards who are in it for themselves and they will just up and leave and then you wont have any of it.These people are fluid not like you and me have houses all over the world and can just up and leave at the drop of a hat."They don't up and move for a marginal tax increase. The rich live here because they like it. It's safe and pleasant and it used to be stable. I'm Ineos and Dyson moved without any tax change at all, so do we drop taxes to please the rich? As long as the maximum sits below 50% more will still be more. The question still is, does another £10 million make a difference to a billionaire? You then present the argument as it really is, to benefit society not to "punish" the wealthy by taking a sum of money that they won't even notice. Instead we have this shrill squealing about the rich somehow being "victimised" whilst a part of society is literally needing to be fed. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
That's one of your triggers isn't it?
Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax?The difference is mate as you keep telling me they are all greedy bastards who are in it for themselves and they will just up and leave and then you wont have any of it.These people are fluid not like you and me have houses all over the world and can just up and leave at the drop of a hat."If they are going to up and leave then let them fuck off. But make it so they cannot suck any more money out of me and thee and everybody else. At least that's better than allowing them to hoover up more and more and more, until there really is nothing left for the rest of us. | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
That's one of your triggers isn't it?
Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax?The difference is mate as you keep telling me they are all greedy bastards who are in it for themselves and they will just up and leave and then you wont have any of it.These people are fluid not like you and me have houses all over the world and can just up and leave at the drop of a hat.
So what if they leave? They don't pay their taxes anyway. It would be no loss to us all if they did bugger off. "yeah so none of these people pay taxes invest in the country employ people? fuck em all off then I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.  | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius. If you can't afford food you are in poverty. Relative or not. If you can't afford food then stop spending your cash on booze and fags.. simples really" You are quite the piece of work. Empathy is not a "thing" for you is it? Some people don't cope so well when a spouse or child dies. Some people struggle to take on another job with multiple-sclerosis. Some people lose their jobs and never find another one. Some people work all hours and still need benefits to survive. All children don't get a choice. Simple solutions for simple minds? | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius. If you can't afford food you are in poverty. Relative or not. If you can't afford food then stop spending your cash on booze and fags.. simples really You are quite the piece of work. Empathy is not a "thing" for you is it? Some people don't cope so well when a spouse or child dies. Some people struggle to take on another job with multiple-sclerosis. Some people lose their jobs and never find another one. Some people work all hours and still need benefits to survive. All children don't get a choice. Simple solutions for simple minds?" You have to give credit to the tories for teaching people to punch down From earlier this year Child poverty cash handed back to Europe unspent https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-49131685 Sure Start centres 'big benefit' but face cuts https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48498763 | |||
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius.yeah get rid of all the rich which then lowers the average wealth then all of a sudden the poor are not so poor so no poverty as usual with corbyn a race to the bottom to average everyone out.
That's one of your triggers isn't it?
Just as matter of interest, what difference to someone's life if a billionaire pays another £10 million in tax?The difference is mate as you keep telling me they are all greedy bastards who are in it for themselves and they will just up and leave and then you wont have any of it.These people are fluid not like you and me have houses all over the world and can just up and leave at the drop of a hat.
So what if they leave? They don't pay their taxes anyway. It would be no loss to us all if they did bugger off. yeah so none of these people pay taxes invest in the country employ people? fuck em all off then I didnt realize corbyn was on this site. "The super rich don't have to leave. They could just, and I know this is a crazy suggestion, pay their taxes. If they chose not to pay and left, other employers could fill the hole they left. Employers who might actually pay taxes. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
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"Ahh so it's relative poverty .. Do if JC gets rid of all of the billionaires he will also liberate the poverty stricken workers at a stroke...genius. If you can't afford food you are in poverty. Relative or not. If you can't afford food then stop spending your cash on booze and fags.. simples really You are quite the piece of work. Empathy is not a "thing" for you is it? Some people don't cope so well when a spouse or child dies. Some people struggle to take on another job with multiple-sclerosis. Some people lose their jobs and never find another one. Some people work all hours and still need benefits to survive. All children don't get a choice. Simple solutions for simple minds?" Empathy is not something I have in abundance but I know there are a lot of self entitled apple phone motherf###z out there.. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
"I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension  but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it. | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves " dear god that's the most inhuman and disgusting comment I've heard about food banks | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves dear god that's the most inhuman and disgusting comment I've heard about food banks" Well I have heard much worse. Some people lead sheltered lives... | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves dear god that's the most inhuman and disgusting comment I've heard about food banks Well I have heard much worse. Some people lead sheltered lives... " I don't need a sheltered life but I can recognise someone who has no empathy and is unkind | |||
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"They would rather have the latest phone and trainers than put food on their plates.." . Not all some are actually working.There was something in the Metro newspaper about 6 months ago about nurses using food banks as they didn’t always have money left over for food.Also food banks tend to stick basic food like pasta , rice , baked beans , cereals as well as things like shampoo , shower gel , soap , tooth paste. | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves dear god that's the most inhuman and disgusting comment I've heard about food banks Well I have heard much worse. Some people lead sheltered lives... I don't need a sheltered life but I can recognise someone who has no empathy and is unkind" I really do have little empathy. | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves dear god that's the most inhuman and disgusting comment I've heard about food banks Well I have heard much worse. Some people lead sheltered lives... I don't need a sheltered life but I can recognise someone who has no empathy and is unkind I really do have little empathy. " But you do seem quite proud of yourself for having no empathy which however you view it is for most human beings a very unattractive trait  | |||
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"They would rather have the latest phone and trainers than put food on their plates... Not all some are actually working.There was something in the Metro newspaper about 6 months ago about nurses using food banks as they didn’t always have money left over for food.Also food banks tend to stick basic food like pasta , rice , baked beans , cereals as well as things like shampoo , shower gel , soap , tooth paste." why is it when a nurse uses a food bank than say s porter or someone working in the kitchens or laundry in a hospital that it’s more upsetting for ppl I bet there’s a thousand carers or cleaners that need a food bank for every nurse | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it."The Tory spending plans are as p  igate as Labour for this election.
What makes one better than the other other than the Conservatives plan to reduce taxes and therefore government income?
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"They would rather have the latest phone and trainers than put food on their plates... Not all some are actually working.There was something in the Metro newspaper about 6 months ago about nurses using food banks as they didn’t always have money left over for food.Also food banks tend to stick basic food like pasta , rice , baked beans , cereals as well as things like shampoo , shower gel , soap , tooth paste.why is it when a nurse uses a food bank than say s porter or someone working in the kitchens or laundry in a hospital that it’s more upsetting for ppl I bet there’s a thousand carers or cleaners that need a food bank for every nurse " . I totally agree with you I guess when we see that nurses who a lot of people feel are underpaid are having a hard times making ends meet then it’s a free hit to have a go at the government for not putting enough into the NHS.The reality is it’s not just people on benefits using food banks it’s people from all walks of life. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it."Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard. | |||
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"I believe that food banks are not for the recipients.. they are for the self righteous, dishing out the free food so they can feel good about themselves dear god that's the most inhuman and disgusting comment I've heard about food banks Well I have heard much worse. Some people lead sheltered lives... I don't need a sheltered life but I can recognise someone who has no empathy and is unkind I really do have little empathy. But you do seem quite proud of yourself for having no empathy which however you view it is for most human beings a very unattractive trait "It's not about being proud of myself.. I am a human being with little empathy... We are all different.. I give little to charity .. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard."Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad. "...and the magic happens. A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad. "I was more thinking thick and repetitive. | |||
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"There are some truly aweful comments on this thread. Just because people don't find common ground on their views is no reason to insult other fab users. You're getting offended, that's a shame. You make a point of showing your lack of empathy and regard for anyone other than yourself, Somehow I don't think you'll be missed." Well I am not going anywhere silly | |||
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"They would rather have the latest phone and trainers than put food on their plates... Not all some are actually working.There was something in the Metro newspaper about 6 months ago about nurses using food banks as they didn’t always have money left over for food.Also food banks tend to stick basic food like pasta , rice , baked beans , cereals as well as things like shampoo , shower gel , soap , tooth paste.why is it when a nurse uses a food bank than say s porter or someone working in the kitchens or laundry in a hospital that it’s more upsetting for ppl I bet there’s a thousand carers or cleaners that need a food bank for every nurse . I totally agree with you I guess when we see that nurses who a lot of people feel are underpaid are having a hard times making ends meet then it’s a free hit to have a go at the government for not putting enough into the NHS.The reality is it’s not just people on benefits using food banks it’s people from all walks of life." yep yr right nurses are underpaid but how much are carers in nursing homes doing almost the same job under paid then funny how ppl scream when a nurse teacher police man is underpaid but not the thousands working along side them it’s ok for them there only semi skilled or unskilled there the ones who will be useing the food banks but go unnoticed but one single nurse and ppl jump up and down lol | |||
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"They would rather have the latest phone and trainers than put food on their plates... Not all some are actually working.There was something in the Metro newspaper about 6 months ago about nurses using food banks as they didn’t always have money left over for food.Also food banks tend to stick basic food like pasta , rice , baked beans , cereals as well as things like shampoo , shower gel , soap , tooth paste.why is it when a nurse uses a food bank than say s porter or someone working in the kitchens or laundry in a hospital that it’s more upsetting for ppl I bet there’s a thousand carers or cleaners that need a food bank for every nurse . I totally agree with you I guess when we see that nurses who a lot of people feel are underpaid are having a hard times making ends meet then it’s a free hit to have a go at the government for not putting enough into the NHS.The reality is it’s not just people on benefits using food banks it’s people from all walks of life. yep yr right nurses are underpaid but how much are carers in nursing homes doing almost the same job under paid then funny how ppl scream when a nurse teacher police man is underpaid but not the thousands working along side them it’s ok for them there only semi skilled or unskilled there the ones who will be useing the food banks but go unnoticed but one single nurse and ppl jump up and down lol" . Yes wages are a problem when semi skilled people are getting paid less than a skilled person in the job roles you have stated.With Christmas approaching the food bank will be even busier than normal especially a week or two leading up to it. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu."That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard. No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself. All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you". Impressive indeed 
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it."There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system."As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory. You did abandon our country. You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy "Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can. | |||
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"oxfam estimate 500,000 people in the uk rely on food banks not a good record but compared to germany 1.5 million,spain 1.5 million and france 3.5 million it looks pretty good.So not just a uk problem it seems." . So what your saying is if you offer people free food they'll take it. Sherlock fucking Holmes | |||
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"oxfam estimate 500,000 people in the uk rely on food banks not a good record but compared to germany 1.5 million,spain 1.5 million and france 3.5 million it looks pretty good.So not just a uk problem it seems.. So what your saying is if you offer people free food they'll take it. Sherlock fucking Holmes "yeah if we have all these starving people in the uk why is everyone so fat? apparently we have the most obese people in europe now call me crazy but i thought starving people were thin. | |||
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"oxfam estimate 500,000 people in the uk rely on food banks not a good record but compared to germany 1.5 million,spain 1.5 million and france 3.5 million it looks pretty good.So not just a uk problem it seems.. So what your saying is if you offer people free food they'll take it. Sherlock fucking Holmes yeah if we have all these starving people in the uk why is everyone so fat? apparently we have the most obese people in europe now call me crazy but i thought starving people were thin.". I have absolutely no problem with poor people accessing free food but obviously when you give them that ability it's likely to go errr up. Got fuck all to do with anything except poor people like free food. In fact even wealthy people like free food | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can."Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration. The EU didn't help you out there though, right? | |||
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"oxfam estimate 500,000 people in the uk rely on food banks not a good record but compared to germany 1.5 million,spain 1.5 million and france 3.5 million it looks pretty good.So not just a uk problem it seems.. So what your saying is if you offer people free food they'll take it. Sherlock fucking Holmes yeah if we have all these starving people in the uk why is everyone so fat? apparently we have the most obese people in europe now call me crazy but i thought starving people were thin."Simple eh? Fresh food is expensive. Healthy food is expensive. What is cheap are low quality highly processed products packed with sugar and fat and salt to make them agreeable. Ironically food provided in food banks is of a higher quality than recipients can afford. Happily few people are starving, because they can go to a food bank before that happen. You are crazy, or just mean. | |||
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"oxfam estimate 500,000 people in the uk rely on food banks not a good record but compared to germany 1.5 million,spain 1.5 million and france 3.5 million it looks pretty good.So not just a uk problem it seems.. So what your saying is if you offer people free food they'll take it. Sherlock fucking Holmes yeah if we have all these starving people in the uk why is everyone so fat? apparently we have the most obese people in europe now call me crazy but i thought starving people were thin..
I have absolutely no problem with poor people accessing free food but obviously when you give them that ability it's likely to go errr up.
Got fuck all to do with anything except poor people like free food.
In fact even wealthy people like free food "You have to be referred to the large majority of food banks. There are very few where you can turn up and just ask. Good research | |||
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"Food banks.. Build it and they will come..." You have to be referred to the large majority of food banks. There are very few where you can turn up and just ask. Good research
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"They have the same amount in Germany and are building more. They have had food banks in Germany for alot longer than we have had here. "That will be the price of letting in millions of refugees.... | |||
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"They have the same amount in Germany and are building more. They have had food banks in Germany for alot longer than we have had here.
That will be the price of letting in millions of refugees...."I would be interested in how you came to that conclusion? | |||
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"They have the same amount in Germany and are building more. They have had food banks in Germany for alot longer than we have had here.
That will be the price of letting in millions of refugees....
I would be interested in how you came to that conclusion? "Well that one is not rocket science... | |||
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"They have the same amount in Germany and are building more. They have had food banks in Germany for alot longer than we have had here.
That will be the price of letting in millions of refugees....
I would be interested in how you came to that conclusion? "Is this the return of an old favourite - tractors and trailers otherwise known as Pat? I wonder? Not enough “facts” being bandied about for it to be centaur but the right type of dumbass statements to be Pat - anyone would think there was an election coming up? | |||
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"They have the same amount in Germany and are building more. They have had food banks in Germany for alot longer than we have had here.
That will be the price of letting in millions of refugees....". So far all the food bank slips that I have personally issued have been to people with British names mostly white people some black people and one Greek Cypriot guy as he tends to speak to me in Greek. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?"what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements. | |||
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"Perhaps you could get away from the whataboutery and look at Costas post which is actually on topic!" Sure mate i was on topic originally until some troll took me off it. | |||
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"Perhaps you could get away from the whataboutery and look at Costas post which is actually on topic!Sure mate i was on topic originally until some troll took me off it. ". _ostafun I think mrjones47 may have meant me my username is Costas. I apologise if I have must understood | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. " Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... " Before you point make sure your fingers are clean. | |||
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"Perhaps you could get away from the whataboutery and look at Costas post which is actually on topic!Sure mate i was on topic originally until some troll took me off it. . _ostafun I think mrjones47 may have meant me my username is Costas. I apologise if I have must understood "No problem mate i acknowledge i was taken off the thread by someone. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements. "So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU? Do you know what they involve? Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property. It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person. You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work? I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit. Hypocrisy. | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... " . I have been to my local food bank 3-4 times to donate some food and it certainly not a stampede when I went.Now a days I put the food I wish to donate at my local Asda fight the hunger trolley and my local food bank collect it from Asda. | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... . I have been to my local food bank 3-4 times to donate some food and it certainly not a stampede when I went.Now a days I put the food I wish to donate at my local Asda fight the hunger trolley and my local food bank collect it from Asda." And I know that makes some people feel good. Often there is one feeling better than donating and that's telling people that they have donated. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy."Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do. | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... . I have been to my local food bank 3-4 times to donate some food and it certainly not a stampede when I went.Now a days I put the food I wish to donate at my local Asda fight the hunger trolley and my local food bank collect it from Asda. And I know that makes some people feel good. Often there is one feeling better than donating and that's telling people that they have donated. " . Apologies in hindsight I didn’t need to mention I donate but I thought if I mentioned I had only been to the food bank 3-4 then perhaps you and others may think that I didn’t care enough about the people trying to make ends meet and could only be bothered 3-4 times. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do. "You know nothing about me. You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring? If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it? | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... . I have been to my local food bank 3-4 times to donate some food and it certainly not a stampede when I went.Now a days I put the food I wish to donate at my local Asda fight the hunger trolley and my local food bank collect it from Asda. And I know that makes some people feel good. Often there is one feeling better than donating and that's telling people that they have donated. . Apologies in hindsight I didn’t need to mention I donate but I thought if I mentioned I had only been to the food bank 3-4 then perhaps you and others may think that I didn’t care enough about the people trying to make ends meet and could only be bothered 3-4 times." No need to apologise Sir. I rarely donate to charity. If a friend or neighbour is doing a sponsored event then I will give for their efforts. My rules are pretty simple. No large corporation charities, nothing that should be government funded,no overseas charities, nothing to streetbeggars, nothing to street chuggers, nothing in envelopes pushed through my door, nothing to animal charities, nothing to cold callers. I sometimes give to RNLI because brave men risk their lives and a few pennies in the poppy tin if I think the collector is genuine. Nothing to comic relief or children in need. And nothing to any organisation trying to make people feel guilty by showing stark images. I do pay taxes and HM Govt gives to some on my behalf. | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. Courage to walk through the door . They almost stampede. It's like supermarket sweep... . I have been to my local food bank 3-4 times to donate some food and it certainly not a stampede when I went.Now a days I put the food I wish to donate at my local Asda fight the hunger trolley and my local food bank collect it from Asda. And I know that makes some people feel good. Often there is one feeling better than donating and that's telling people that they have donated. . Apologies in hindsight I didn’t need to mention I donate but I thought if I mentioned I had only been to the food bank 3-4 then perhaps you and others may think that I didn’t care enough about the people trying to make ends meet and could only be bothered 3-4 times. No need to apologise Sir. I rarely donate to charity. If a friend or neighbour is doing a sponsored event then I will give for their efforts. My rules are pretty simple. No large corporation charities, nothing that should be government funded,no overseas charities, nothing to streetbeggars, nothing to street chuggers, nothing in envelopes pushed through my door, nothing to animal charities, nothing to cold callers. I sometimes give to RNLI because brave men risk their lives and a few pennies in the poppy tin if I think the collector is genuine. Nothing to comic relief or children in need. And nothing to any organisation trying to make people feel guilty by showing stark images. I do pay taxes and HM Govt gives to some on my behalf. " . Thanks for understanding.At the end of the day it’s your choice to give to whatever charity you may want to. | |||
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"And I respect everyone's choice to donate. Food banks are one my most disliked charities. Each to there own. I read the Trussell Trust report and website. Very politically motivated in my view. The report was commissioned by the Trust so hardly independent in my view. Wake up folks and dare to challenge those trying to manipulate you. Don't be fooled by the hidden agendas. And as for Band Aid... Shakes head.." Wow you really are the embodiment of the cliched essex man. I hope you do some good in your life because at the moment you’re sounding pretty heartless. Absolutely your choice of course but really not an attractive trait and I still think you sound just like Pat (tractors and trailers/scania man). Is it you Pat? | |||
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"And I respect everyone's choice to donate. Food banks are one my most disliked charities. Each to there own. I read the Trussell Trust report and website. Very politically motivated in my view. The report was commissioned by the Trust so hardly independent in my view. Wake up folks and dare to challenge those trying to manipulate you. Don't be fooled by the hidden agendas. And as for Band Aid... Shakes head.. Wow you really are the embodiment of the cliched essex man. I hope you do some good in your life because at the moment you’re sounding pretty heartless. Absolutely your choice of course but really not an attractive trait and I still think you sound just like Pat (tractors and trailers/scania man). Is it you Pat? "No, he's younger and angrier and not as simple minded in his belief that those in charge will do what's best. Definitely a generational difference. | |||
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"I’ve never been to a food bank but I bet it takes courage to walk through that door . Some, no doubt feel a sense of shame. I feel for them but I also pity those who portray these brave souls as spongers.. " with you 100% on this bob ffs can’t even imagine how someone must feel walking in the door of a food bank probs most will be single mams on benefits and loonies on here call them and they have no idea that it’s almost impossible for them to work with the costs of childcare | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?"You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it."Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it.
Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd "Firstly where have i ever said i was an entrepreneur? let me think!!!!! never.on what grounds do do you make the assumption that i am not used to being questioned and blind obedience is more my thing? Secondly i am not affiliated to the brexit party.I can see why you troll me now it seems you have made up this fantasy man in your head who you have projected onto me.If it helps you in your negative doom and gloom life i am quiet happy to carry on being your fantasy figure with whom you can get all your anger and frustration out on. | |||
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"I am not sure what the clichéd Essex man is supposed to be but we mostly do have loads of money, lovely women and like our seafood stalls, Southend and decent nosh. A proper billericay dicky eh? Just a shame you live so close to those french and all their bloomin immigrants eh! Cliches are great aren't they old son!" You sound like a troll.. French people are not bloomin immigrants.. those are your words. Shame on you | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it.
Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd Firstly where have i ever said i was an entrepreneur? let me think!!!!! never.on what grounds do do you make the assumption that i am not used to being questioned and blind obedience is more my thing? Secondly i am not affiliated to the brexit party.I can see why you troll me now it seems you have made up this fantasy man in your head who you have projected onto me.If it helps you in your negative doom and gloom life i am quiet happy to carry on being your fantasy figure with whom you can get all your anger and frustration out on. "Your success is purely down to you though. Not body else. No external circumstances made you the "success" you are. Except that they have it seems. The Brexit Party Ltd is merely a cypher. Brexit is the solution to so many of the problems for the country you have not lived in. The man who helped bring us to this place of chaos does not like being questioned. He does not like democracy very much. You knew what you were voting for so you must have voted for this too as it is his version of Brexit. No. I'm not trolling you. You make assertions and are then surprised when they are called out. You are not worthy of special attention although you do seem to consider yourself in that way. I call out everyone who claims fact and certainty where there is none. Everyone propogating unconsidered half-truths or lies. Now you can see why I call you out. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it.
Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd Firstly where have i ever said i was an entrepreneur? let me think!!!!! never.on what grounds do do you make the assumption that i am not used to being questioned and blind obedience is more my thing? Secondly i am not affiliated to the brexit party.I can see why you troll me now it seems you have made up this fantasy man in your head who you have projected onto me.If it helps you in your negative doom and gloom life i am quiet happy to carry on being your fantasy figure with whom you can get all your anger and frustration out on.
Your success is purely down to you though. Not body else. No external circumstances made you the "success" you are. Except that they have it seems.
The Brexit Party Ltd is merely a cypher. Brexit is the solution to so many of the problems for the country you have not lived in. The man who helped bring us to this place of chaos does not like being questioned. He does not like democracy very much. You knew what you were voting for so you must have voted for this too as it is his version of Brexit.
No. I'm not trolling you. You make assertions and are then surprised when they are called out.
You are not worthy of special attention although you do seem to consider yourself in that way.
I call out everyone who claims fact and certainty where there is none. Everyone propogating unconsidered half-truths or lies.
Now you can see why I call you out."No substance here. Move along. Nothing to see... | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it.
Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd Firstly where have i ever said i was an entrepreneur? let me think!!!!! never.on what grounds do do you make the assumption that i am not used to being questioned and blind obedience is more my thing? Secondly i am not affiliated to the brexit party.I can see why you troll me now it seems you have made up this fantasy man in your head who you have projected onto me.If it helps you in your negative doom and gloom life i am quiet happy to carry on being your fantasy figure with whom you can get all your anger and frustration out on.
Your success is purely down to you though. Not body else. No external circumstances made you the "success" you are. Except that they have it seems.
The Brexit Party Ltd is merely a cypher. Brexit is the solution to so many of the problems for the country you have not lived in. The man who helped bring us to this place of chaos does not like being questioned. He does not like democracy very much. You knew what you were voting for so you must have voted for this too as it is his version of Brexit.
No. I'm not trolling you. You make assertions and are then surprised when they are called out.
You are not worthy of special attention although you do seem to consider yourself in that way.
I call out everyone who claims fact and certainty where there is none. Everyone propogating unconsidered half-truths or lies.
Now you can see why I call you out.
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it.
Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd Firstly where have i ever said i was an entrepreneur? let me think!!!!! never.on what grounds do do you make the assumption that i am not used to being questioned and blind obedience is more my thing? Secondly i am not affiliated to the brexit party.I can see why you troll me now it seems you have made up this fantasy man in your head who you have projected onto me.If it helps you in your negative doom and gloom life i am quiet happy to carry on being your fantasy figure with whom you can get all your anger and frustration out on.
Your success is purely down to you though. Not body else. No external circumstances made you the "success" you are. Except that they have it seems.
The Brexit Party Ltd is merely a cypher. Brexit is the solution to so many of the problems for the country you have not lived in. The man who helped bring us to this place of chaos does not like being questioned. He does not like democracy very much. You knew what you were voting for so you must have voted for this too as it is his version of Brexit.
No. I'm not trolling you. You make assertions and are then surprised when they are called out.
You are not worthy of special attention although you do seem to consider yourself in that way.
I call out everyone who claims fact and certainty where there is none. Everyone propogating unconsidered half-truths or lies.
Now you can see why I call you out."So what facts and certainty where there are none have you actually called me out on? all you have said is that i have benefited by the eu and i am a hypocrite,assumptions on my character when you clearly have no idea so excuse me for thinking you are a little fixated on me. | |||
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"Be as unique as a snowflake.. Try any employment.. you never know, you might like it.. ". There are quite a few I see who I feel like saying try getting a job when they complain they don’t receive enough benefits.The worst ones that seem to have one reason / excuse for not been able to find a suitable job are the lone parents I probably issue more food bank slips to lone parents than single men or men with partner and children. | |||
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" I didnt realize corbyn was on this site.
Costa when every point you make regardless of the topic, is "yeah but corbyn" you remind me of Vicky Pollard.
How on earth can you ignore what has happened and still say 'could be worse, could be corbyn
I cant say what is happening in derry mate but where i live the uk seems a great place to live and yes it will be worse under corbyn.Politics follows the same old cycles labour get in bust the country and the tories have to tighten the purse string to get us back on course,everyone gets pissed off with that so vote labour in again and the cycle continues.This time with corbyn and mcdonnell if they get in im worried the damage those two do will be irreparable.Yeah 10 years of them spend,spend,spend will be great take me up to my pension but not going to do my kids and grandkids any good when they spend the rest of their lives paying for it.
Well I really can't compare derry to the UK. But I've lived, studied and worked in different parts of England & Scotland since the late 80's so I've a chance to see it from the outside over the years. Now its more divided and angry than I've ever seen it. Its divided by class, by race, age and location. The difference between scotland and england is day and night. Scottish Independence isn't an if, it a when. London is another world, the cost of living & property makes for a piss poor quality of life, 3rd level education is so expensive even with the bank of mum and dad. 2nd level education again is patchy and depends on location. The safety net is gutted beyond recognition. Outside of London, public transport is a joke. People are expected to be grateful for a minimum wage job. If you're poor in the UK, that's hard to change. If you're on benefits, its your fault. The class system is worse in the UK than ever. What I have seen is the rich are richer than ever, everyone punches down. Camerom was a smooth talking conman, Boris is a dangerous populist that will be no friend to anyone other than the rich. Then I hear 'yeah but corbyn' and think fuck me, this is like talking to Vicki Pollard.Well mate however much you have a fantasy of me dressed as vicki pollard its not going to happen.Now been back in the uk a year and all i see are friendly people plenty of jobs advertised but must admit people havegot fatter since i moved abroad.
...and the magic happens.
A baby boomer who's benefitted from the growth and stability and opportunity to move provides the EU comes "home" and tells us it was all crap and much better when he was young
Do as I say, not as I do I benefited from have a work ethic drilled into me by my parents when i was young following the money and working hard.Would have been the same in or out of the eu.
That's a pretty impressive level of self-regard.
No luck. No credit to world surrounding you. The situation that you found yourself.
All down to you and nothing and nobody else except a "work ethic being drilled into you".
Impressive indeed
Tell us about the country which you desserted. Tell us how to live in it and what is best for it.There is an old saying mate you make your own luck in this world and as for deserting my country as you like to portray it i never did i still paid my taxes just chose not to live here for a while.Nope no credit to the world surrounding me if you have something someone needs they are willing to pay for it its been that way since the beginning of man with the barter system.
As I said, plenty of self-regard. It seems to be a national characteristic for half the population now - vainglory.
You did abandon our country.
You left to live in another EU country with ease. You have now come back to tell us that we don't need to. That's hypocrisy Plenty of non europeans buy property in the eu with EASE so dont get your point anyone who can afford it can.
Actually, no they don't. It has to go through anti-money laundering checks. The complication is in actually living in the property that they have purchased. You know, immigration.
The EU didn't help you out there though, right?what has anti money laundering checks to do with anything if you have earn,t your money and paid tax on it you are clutching at straws now mate. Is it really so hard for you to agree its easy to buy a house live in it if you are from outside the eu and do a job that they value.It seems to me you could be some kind of troll because you will argue against the most basic statements.
So just to clarify, you think that it is "easy" to work through the anti money laundering checks from outside the EU?
Do you know what they involve?
Guess what, as an EU citizen you only has to go through the most basic ones to move money and buy property.
It is usually easy if you are very wealthy, as most things are, but not for an average person.
You are also saying that it is easy for a non-EU citizen to immigrate to an EU country to live and work?
I am not trolling, I am pointing out that you have benefitted from free movement and the right to life and anywhere in the EU which you will deny others with Brexit.
Hypocrisy.Im pointing out that i would have done it anyway without being in the eu and im sure lots of people will continue to do after we have left.I can understand why someone like yourself who is so negative about everything would think that way but mate just have a bit of confidence in yourself and think positive its amazing what you can do.
You know nothing about me.
You also have no idea what it would be like to move from outside the EU or if it would even be possible. Work and residency visa for you sir? What skills do you bring?
If you are rational, as you claim to be, you may have concluded that it would be easier to move somewhere else. However, it was a relatively painless process wasn't it?You also no nothing about me either as i have lived and worked outside the eu most my life and it was all very simple because that was all sorted by my employer.As for knowing nothing about you i can see by your posts over the past months that you are a negative doom and gloom merchant the kind of person i really try to avoid in the pub and will argue just for the sake of it.
Ah. So you are self made by working for someone else's company who sorted stuff out for you. Unlike actual entrepreneurs who have to do things themselves. Yet still such self regard
Nah. Not at all negative. I just don't have blind faith in the promises of a known liar with zero data to back the existence of unicorns. You aren't someone used to people questioning you. Blind obedience and nodding at your wisdom more your thing. Like your chums at the Brexit Party Ltd Firstly where have i ever said i was an entrepreneur? let me think!!!!! never.on what grounds do do you make the assumption that i am not used to being questioned and blind obedience is more my thing? Secondly i am not affiliated to the brexit party.I can see why you troll me now it seems you have made up this fantasy man in your head who you have projected onto me.If it helps you in your negative doom and gloom life i am quiet happy to carry on being your fantasy figure with whom you can get all your anger and frustration out on.
Your success is purely down to you though. Not body else. No external circumstances made you the "success" you are. Except that they have it seems.
The Brexit Party Ltd is merely a cypher. Brexit is the solution to so many of the problems for the country you have not lived in. The man who helped bring us to this place of chaos does not like being questioned. He does not like democracy very much. You knew what you were voting for so you must have voted for this too as it is his version of Brexit.
No. I'm not trolling you. You make assertions and are then surprised when they are called out.
You are not worthy of special attention although you do seem to consider yourself in that way.
I call out everyone who claims fact and certainty where there is none. Everyone propogating unconsidered half-truths or lies.
Now you can see why I call you out.So what facts and certainty where there are none have you actually called me out on? all you have said is that i have benefited by the eu and i am a hypocrite,assumptions on my character when you clearly have no idea so excuse me for thinking you are a little fixated on me. "Ah yes, deep in to the pedantic details now. Anyone can scroll up and read through. Your belief in your specialness really knows no bounds does it?
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"Be as unique as a snowflake.. Try any employment.. you never know, you might like it.. "Funny isn’t it....I have been self employed all my life, travelled the world, been on the dole for two weeks when I was fresh out of college but didn’t like it so found work and got on with life. I have a lovely georgian house in Bristol and yet I am the bastard son of a public school twerp whose family paid my single mum to piss off and gave no support to her or me over the years and you know I can still find a lot of empathy for those who cant get their chaotic lives sorted. I imagine you have had a bit more of a privileged upbringing and so feel able to make your empty headed pronouncements which to be honest sound as if you are reading them off the back of a cornflake packet. So bloody shallow and heartless it’s embarrassing  | |||
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"Be as unique as a snowflake.. Try any employment.. you never know, you might like it..
Funny isn’t it....I have been self employed all my life, travelled the world, been on the dole for two weeks when I was fresh out of college but didn’t like it so found work and got on with life. I have a lovely georgian house in Bristol and yet I am the bastard son of a public school twerp whose family paid my single mum to piss off and gave no support to her or me over the years and you know I can still find a lot of empathy for those who cant get their chaotic lives sorted. I imagine you have had a bit more of a privileged upbringing and so feel able to make your empty headed pronouncements which to be honest sound as if you are reading them off the back of a cornflake packet. So bloody shallow and heartless it’s embarrassing "Well done. If you can do it against the odds do can the great unwashed.. | |||
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"In closure.. food banks benefit the genuine but exploited by the masses.. Thank you all who responded" Based on what data? You sat on a bench?
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"Financially struggling due to looking after my parents. Self employed, had a year's worth of wages set by, but that was 3 years ago. Not entitled to any benefits. It's very easy to fall into difficulties. I just deal with it, but find it truly difficult to know that some days I can't afford to feed my cat, and that keeps me going." . Even if you are not entitled to any benefits and can’t afford to eat you can go to your local jobcentre and request a food bank slip.I appreciate it can be daunting and maybe even embarrassing going into a job centre but we are there to help despite the bad press and the film I am Daniel | |||
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"Financially struggling due to looking after my parents. Self employed, had a year's worth of wages set by, but that was 3 years ago. Not entitled to any benefits. It's very easy to fall into difficulties. I just deal with it, but find it truly difficult to know that some days I can't afford to feed my cat, and that keeps me going.. Even if you are not entitled to any benefits and can’t afford to eat you can go to your local jobcentre and request a food bank slip.I appreciate it can be daunting and maybe even embarrassing going into a job centre but we are there to help despite the bad press and the film I am Daniel " I don't envy you doing what seems to be a thankless task between not being able to provide the help you may want to for many of those in needed to being abused by those few who are not. I hope you have good days | |||
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"oxfam estimate 500,000 people in the uk rely on food banks not a good record but compared to germany 1.5 million,spain 1.5 million and france 3.5 million it looks pretty good.So not just a uk problem it seems." That's alright then
What's happening in each country and are the numbers comparable?
Germany is larger (not twice as large) but has quite a tough welfare system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/50324852
France has legally forced all supermarkets to not waste edible food.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/04/french-law-forbids-food-waste-by-supermarkets
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