Its not a wasted vote if we all vocally campaign and convince all remain voters this is our ONLY single chance to remain
Even if at the end most just fall into their old party allegiances and we end up with a left or right shit sandwich we passionate remainers can honorably say we took the correct option
I have now accepted the UK is leaving the EU with either a poor deal a very poor deal a stupid deal or a dire deal
My money safe and business now closed or closing .I'm ok Jack but my brexiteer employees and customers will suffer as I offer unique services and care
Get ready for Brexit. I am but it's a damn sad state of affairs |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Yellow Tories. No thanks."
It depends, to me party loyalty matters less than stopping Boris, if they are the best change of stopping Boris returning with an working majority, then hold your nose and vote tactical.
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over a year ago
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If I vote it will be for the Lib Dems.
I'd rather this election to be on party policy but it's only for fucking Brexit and while I accept the result of the referendum I will not vote for a Brexit through a General election.
If Brexit had been sorted one way or another before the general election then I'd probably vote Tory, but as it isn't sorted and Brexit IS the election then fuck them Tories and their lying cheating bastard of a leader   |
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks."
This election is going to very rapidly become a single issue event sadly.
Brexit trumps all. So historical voting records on other matters get binned. Libdems want Revoke (my preferred option). Labour are Staggering towards a second referendum (god knows what will happen with that!). Tory/Brexit traitors want to ruin the country.
So as I said before, for my locality, Naffing Labour are my least worst choice. |
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks."
Cheep comment from you. Make your case. It's no better than "Vote Labour and get Tory Red BREXIT"
There is only one party that is going to gain if the LibDems and Labour put more effort into knocking seven shades of shit out of each other than they do into stopping Johnson's BREXIT and it isn't going to either the LibDems or Labour.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"If I vote it will be for the Lib Dems.
I'd rather this election to be on party policy but it's only for fucking Brexit and while I accept the result of the referendum I will not vote for a Brexit through a General election.
If Brexit had been sorted one way or another before the general election then I'd probably vote Tory, but as it isn't sorted and Brexit IS the election then fuck them Tories and their lying cheating bastard of a leader "
As been said already, this is not a general election, this is a proxy referendum.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"Yellow Tories. No thanks.
It depends, to me party loyalty matters less than stopping Boris, if they are the best change of stopping Boris returning with an working majority, then hold your nose and vote tactical.
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Yes, I can understand that where a Lib Dem has a chance of ousting a Conservative.
My constituency is solid Labour, hence no need to hold my nose here.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’ll be tactically voting for the liberals as it’s a one issue election..As has been said already."
This is the Problem tho , you shouldn’t have to !
You should be able to vote Green and it should count !
I may be on the same boat , my biggest nightmare is a Corbin win and even tho I’m ultra pro Brexit the liberals may have the best chance of beating labour where I live !
How crazy is that !!! |
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over a year ago
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks.
It depends, to me party loyalty matters less than stopping Boris, if they are the best change of stopping Boris returning with an working majority, then hold your nose and vote tactical.
Yes, I can understand that where a Lib Dem has a chance of ousting a Conservative.
My constituency is solid Labour, hence no need to hold my nose here.
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I don't think anywhere is solid anything at the moment |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lib Dem’s, we’re happy to prop up a Tory government . Caused years of austerity, which still affects many in this country.
Fuck the Liberal Democrat’s, opportunistic dogs. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Lib Dem’s, we’re happy to prop up a Tory government . Caused years of austerity, which still affects many in this country.
Fuck the Liberal Democrat’s, opportunistic dogs."
see.... that is the narrative labour will want people to put out
thats nots actually quite the truth... because as part of the coalition they actually got a lot of their policies done...
for example.... shared paternity leave
increase single person tax allowance way above inflation
nursery places for all 3 and 4 yr olds
same sex marriage
the pupil premium giving more money to help children in places that needed it most
the creation of the "green investment bank"
the "triple lock" increase on state pensions....
and so on.... |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
Huddersfield /derby cinemas |
"Lib Dem’s, we’re happy to prop up a Tory government . Caused years of austerity, which still affects many in this country.
Fuck the Liberal Democrat’s, opportunistic dogs.
see.... that is the narrative labour will want people to put out
thats nots actually quite the truth... because as part of the coalition they actually got a lot of their policies done...
for example.... shared paternity leave
increase single person tax allowance way above inflation
nursery places for all 3 and 4 yr olds
same sex marriage
the pupil premium giving more money to help children in places that needed it most
the creation of the "green investment bank"
the "triple lock" increase on state pensions....
and so on...."
,,, which will be the narrative the LibDems will want to put out |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
" which will be the narrative the LibDems will want to put out "
and that is why i find politics so fascinating.... because people can throw mud at walls and see what sticks... or see if they turn out a message of "this is what we actually acheived" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" which will be the narrative the LibDems will want to put out
and that is why i find politics so fascinating.... because people can throw mud at walls and see what sticks... or see if they turn out a message of "this is what we actually acheived" "
But that can be said about all parties, it’s the bad things you’re remembered for not the good |
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks.
It depends, to me party loyalty matters less than stopping Boris, if they are the best change of stopping Boris returning with an working majority, then hold your nose and vote tactical.
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Exactly this |
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks."
If 48 percent vote a yellow Tory and remain it will be vast superior than a nazi party leaving with no deal
And so so so sadly the Tories are almost certain to hold a majority
Unless all, all remainers vote lib dems we WILL be leaving |
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks.
If 48 percent vote a yellow Tory and remain it will be vast superior than a nazi party leaving with no deal
And so so so sadly the Tories are almost certain to hold a majority
Unless all, all remainers vote lib dems we WILL be leaving "
Thats not entirely true.
If labour get in they have said there will be a 2nd referendum on their deal or to remain.
I feel voting labour will result in remaining in the EU in the end.
So that leaves us with the rest of the manifestos of labour and lib dems and if the last general elections manifestos are anything to go by then labours for me wins outright and it was far superior. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"A possible outcome, come Dec 13, is Labour, SNP and Lib Dems all agreeing on a 2nd referendum sometime in 2020 on a soft Brexit proposal negotiated by Keir Starmer.
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With just "Deal" or "No Deal" on the ballot paper? |
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"A possible outcome, come Dec 13, is Labour, SNP and Lib Dems all agreeing on a 2nd referendum sometime in 2020 on a soft Brexit proposal negotiated by Keir Starmer.
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I'm a staunch remainer
A referendum is the last thing I or anyone who wants to really just remain wants
No one has changed their minds a referendum will lead to a strong mandate to leave .and then there is zero hope
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Yellow Tories. No thanks.
If 48 percent vote a yellow Tory and remain it will be vast superior than a nazi party leaving with no deal
And so so so sadly the Tories are almost certain to hold a majority
Unless all, all remainers vote lib dems we WILL be leaving "
I don't know. I can see it going 2 ways, Boris get his majority or no party having a majority.
If you look at it on party lines
BXP, DUP & Conservatives are all pro brexit.
SNP, Lib Dems & Greens are in favour a 2nd referendum
Labour are saying, we will renegotiate and put have a referendum on their deal or remain.
So be tactical with your vote. There's a lot to play for on both sides. There's 60ish MPs are not standing for election for varying reasons. The incumbent MP always has the advantage.
In some regards another Conservative minority govt that relies on either or both the DUP & BXP could be worse than a clear Tory majority. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"A possible outcome, come Dec 13, is Labour, SNP and Lib Dems all agreeing on a 2nd referendum sometime in 2020 on a soft Brexit proposal negotiated by Keir Starmer.
With just "Deal" or "No Deal" on the ballot paper? "
Labour's policy is neat.
If they can get airtime for it.
Basically, trying to shift the narrative of the election campaign away from Brexit.
How?
Brexit? Look you'll get a separate vote on that in 2020, so let's talk about the NHS, schools, housing and so on.
Separating Brexit from the election.
I hope it works.
I think most people are heartily sick of the whole topic now.
Another six weeks of it being rammed down their throats will probably dissuade many from even turning out.
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over a year ago
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"Yellow Tories. No thanks.
It depends, to me party loyalty matters less than stopping Boris, if they are the best change of stopping Boris returning with an working majority, then hold your nose and vote tactical.
Yes, I can understand that where a Lib Dem has a chance of ousting a Conservative.
My constituency is solid Labour, hence no need to hold my nose here.
I don't think anywhere is solid anything at the moment "
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Yep, I've got a feeling Swinson will get voted out  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"I can't work out if they support a referendum on Scottish Independence "
No, they don't.
But if a majority in Scotland voted for a manifesto calling for a referendum, they would not stand in the way it.
It's no different to the stance David Cameron took after the 2011 Scottish election.
And it would be no different if the same thing happened in Northern Ireland.
When there is clear evidence of demand for the opportunity of self-determination, it is very foolish to ignore it.
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"A possible outcome, come Dec 13, is Labour, SNP and Lib Dems all agreeing on a 2nd referendum sometime in 2020 on a soft Brexit proposal negotiated by Keir Starmer.
With just "Deal" or "No Deal" on the ballot paper?
Labour's policy is neat.
If they can get airtime for it.
Basically, trying to shift the narrative of the election campaign away from Brexit.
How?
Brexit? Look you'll get a separate vote on that in 2020, so let's talk about the NHS, schools, housing and so on.
Separating Brexit from the election.
I hope it works.
I think most people are heartily sick of the whole topic now.
Another six weeks of it being rammed down their throats will probably dissuade many from even turning out.
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Labour just need to get rid of Corbyn and their election chances would get a significant boost |
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My least worst option is fucking Labour!!
