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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ? |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ? "
Dont forget that this report is based on Boris’ deal and Mark Carney from the Bank of England has acknowledged that his deal is worse than Tresemmes so things are looking good for the turd polishers of Westminster right now! |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ? "
That is going to be like finding a hen with teeth. There is Economists for Brexit, which is practically an arms length offshoot of the ERG. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I'm afraid evidence doesn't like makes little dent in most Leave attitudes.
I recall during the 2016 referendum, when Osborne and Cameron came out with their report saying every household would be worse off, a VOX Pop interview by iTN somewhere in the north-east.
A local lady interviewed said: "£3000? I don't even know what that looks like. I have no money now so how can I be any worse if we leave?"
That summed up in a nutshell the working-class resentment towards inequality and exclusion that drove people in less well-off areas to put two fingers up to the Establishment and vote Leave.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I would not believe an economist ...in any shape or form"
Of course you wouldn’t, why would in believe experts? I suppose Farage is your ‘go to guy’ when it comes to the economy??  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would not believe an economist ...in any shape or form
Of course you wouldn’t, why would in believe experts? I suppose Farage is your ‘go to guy’ when it comes to the economy?? "
And Boris boy |
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Expert evidence is nothing, when dreamers can wax lyrical about how they feel and believe the sunny uplands are on the horizon, often accompanied by their recollections of how the world was at our feet. They do however expect you to continue paying the premiums for vacuous follows, laying your life to waste. They probably should have been indebted to a minimum of £50,000, subject to assets and income. |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ? "
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then. "
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"They cant forecast what will happen next week, why on earth do you take notice of a ten year forecast ?"
Who do you ‘ take notice off’ ? What experts do you believe in? Are all these reports still ‘project fear’? |
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I remember the BBC waxing lyrically about Danny Blanchflower during the global crash, he was wrong on everything. Likewise the famous 365 economists who said Nigal Lawson being wrong about something and it turned out to be the cooks dad was right all along...
It's easy to look like a genius, but few really don't get the opportunity to play at being the influencer... The truth is history and hindsight prove something but is never proven to be fact for the future for everyone... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I remember the BBC waxing lyrically about Danny Blanchflower during the global crash, he was wrong on everything. Likewise the famous 365 economists who said Nigal Lawson being wrong about something and it turned out to be the cooks dad was right all along...
It's easy to look like a genius, but few really don't get the opportunity to play at being the influencer... The truth is history and hindsight prove something but is never proven to be fact for the future for everyone... "
He was a great player for Tottenham though
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why is everyone so obsessed with growth anyway. Can't we just get back to being happy without wanting growth all the time. Who cares about ruddy growth and a bigger economy that sucks in more and more consumerist goods and makes us greedy for higher and higher standard of living and as a result higher carbon emissions. |
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"I remember the BBC waxing lyrically about Danny Blanchflower during the global crash, he was wrong on everything. Likewise the famous 365 economists who said Nigal Lawson being wrong about something and it turned out to be the cooks dad was right all along...
It's easy to look like a genius, but few really don't get the opportunity to play at being the influencer... The truth is history and hindsight prove something but is never proven to be fact for the future for everyone...
He was a great player for Tottenham though
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 when they were good... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why is everyone so obsessed with growth anyway. Can't we just get back to being happy without wanting growth all the time. Who cares about ruddy growth and a bigger economy that sucks in more and more consumerist goods and makes us greedy for higher and higher standard of living and as a result higher carbon emissions. "
I agree with part of what you are saying but These ‘consumerist goods ‘ create jobs, if people have more money they can spend it on leisure activities creating more jobs , more taxes, better schools, hospitals etc etc |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink? "
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business. |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business. "
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain . |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain ."
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money. "
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU? |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU? "
Do YOU believe them then? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?"
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party "
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party. "
I think you need to google capitalism? It isn’t just about increasing the economy it is about private owners controlling a countries trade and industry for profit. Corbyn wants to Re nationalise , Farage doesn’t . |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party.
I think you need to google capitalism? It isn’t just about increasing the economy it is about private owners controlling a countries trade and industry for profit. Corbyn wants to Re nationalise , Farage doesn’t . "
And do you the the EU will let him? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party.
I think you need to google capitalism? It isn’t just about increasing the economy it is about private owners controlling a countries trade and industry for profit. Corbyn wants to Re nationalise , Farage doesn’t .
And do you the the EU will let him? "
They wouldn’t be able to stop him. So, to re cap? If you are anti capitalist you have to vote for the Brexit party because they wants us to leave the EU and are trying to shrink the countries economy ? All though Farage and his bad of loons are currently stating the opposite? |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party.
I think you need to google capitalism? It isn’t just about increasing the economy it is about private owners controlling a countries trade and industry for profit. Corbyn wants to Re nationalise , Farage doesn’t .
And do you the the EU will let him?
They wouldn’t be able to stop him. So, to re cap? If you are anti capitalist you have to vote for the Brexit party because they wants us to leave the EU and are trying to shrink the countries economy ? All though Farage and his bad of loons are currently stating the opposite? "
You might want to do some research on what's expected from an eu member state.
If you're an anti-capitalist the last thing you should want is to aid capitalists in making ever increasing amounts of cash. By your own headline you believe the economy will be damaged by leaving the EU. As do most Tories. That's why the Tory party line during the referendum was Remain. They clearly wanted to continue to make more and more money. Unfortunately, the Tories now have leader who stands to make a huge personal gain if we crash out. Not an economic gain but personal. So, i guess if you're anti capitalist etc you could vote Tory, but there's a danger they back slide to remain... |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party.
I think you need to google capitalism? It isn’t just about increasing the economy it is about private owners controlling a countries trade and industry for profit. Corbyn wants to Re nationalise , Farage doesn’t .
And do you the the EU will let him?
They wouldn’t be able to stop him. So, to re cap? If you are anti capitalist you have to vote for the Brexit party because they wants us to leave the EU and are trying to shrink the countries economy ? All though Farage and his bad of loons are currently stating the opposite?
You might want to do some research on what's expected from an eu member state.
If you're an anti-capitalist the last thing you should want is to aid capitalists in making ever increasing amounts of cash. By your own headline you believe the economy will be damaged by leaving the EU. As do most Tories. That's why the Tory party line during the referendum was Remain. They clearly wanted to continue to make more and more money. Unfortunately, the Tories now have leader who stands to make a huge personal gain if we crash out. Not an economic gain but personal. So, i guess if you're anti capitalist etc you could vote Tory, but there's a danger they back slide to remain..."
So, the only way to be a true ‘anti capitalist’ is to wreck and decrease the economy?? |
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
I guess Brexit will attract the anti capitalist vote then.
Really, so they voted for Brexit knowing the economy would shrink?
No but I'd expect them to vote for the Brexit party if it's bad for business. You could hardly protest against capitalism, then vote to remain, knowing that remaining is best for capitalism and big business.
I didn’t know you had to be a capitalist to support a healthy economy? Remember , this reports highlights what we stand to lose, not what we will gain .
A healthy economy is based on growth. You can't be anti-capitalism and pro strong economic performance. Thats just hypocrisy. A vote for remain is a vote for maintaining or increasing our prosperity. Why do you think so many people are making a fuss about how much money we stand to lose? It's all about money.
So, if you are anti capitalist and vote for the Brexit Party you are basically ignoring Farage and his cronies as they all state we will be financially better off leaving the EU?
Do YOU believe them then?
I think the people who vote for the Brexit party do? Anyway, if you want anti capitalism vote labour and Corbyn not The Brexit Party
He wants to remain, or his party do. A true anti capitalist would vote Brexit party.
I think you need to google capitalism? It isn’t just about increasing the economy it is about private owners controlling a countries trade and industry for profit. Corbyn wants to Re nationalise , Farage doesn’t .
And do you the the EU will let him?
They wouldn’t be able to stop him. So, to re cap? If you are anti capitalist you have to vote for the Brexit party because they wants us to leave the EU and are trying to shrink the countries economy ? All though Farage and his bad of loons are currently stating the opposite?
You might want to do some research on what's expected from an eu member state.
If you're an anti-capitalist the last thing you should want is to aid capitalists in making ever increasing amounts of cash. By your own headline you believe the economy will be damaged by leaving the EU. As do most Tories. That's why the Tory party line during the referendum was Remain. They clearly wanted to continue to make more and more money. Unfortunately, the Tories now have leader who stands to make a huge personal gain if we crash out. Not an economic gain but personal. So, i guess if you're anti capitalist etc you could vote Tory, but there's a danger they back slide to remain...
So, the only way to be a true ‘anti capitalist’ is to wreck and decrease the economy?? "
Unless an anti capitalist supports capitalism, which is inherent within the EU. That's the only voting action that makes sense. If we remain, we remain supporting capitalism. |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?"
After all if it wasn't, you wouldn't be worried about the 70 billion would you? |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?"
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is? |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is? "
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy. |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy. "
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ? |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy.
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ? "
I think you're pretty blinkered if you think you can support an anti capitalist stance, and want to remain in a money making organisation such as the EU. That's hypocrisy. |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy.
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ?
I think you're pretty blinkered if you think you can support an anti capitalist stance, and want to remain in a money making organisation such as the EU. That's hypocrisy. "
Money making organisation? Can you give me the figures on how much profit the EU has made and to whom it was paid to? |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy.
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ?
I think you're pretty blinkered if you think you can support an anti capitalist stance, and want to remain in a money making organisation such as the EU. That's hypocrisy.
Money making organisation? Can you give me the figures on how much profit the EU has made and to whom it was paid to? "
Don't be facetious. |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy.
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ?
I think you're pretty blinkered if you think you can support an anti capitalist stance, and want to remain in a money making organisation such as the EU. That's hypocrisy.
Money making organisation? Can you give me the figures on how much profit the EU has made and to whom it was paid to?
Don't be facetious."
Come on, don’t make statements you can’t back up , where does the ‘money making machine’ EU profits go?? I have a sneaky feeling they all go to the EU countries in the form of grants? Doesn’t sound like a ‘capitalist ‘ organisation to me |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy.
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ?
I think you're pretty blinkered if you think you can support an anti capitalist stance, and want to remain in a money making organisation such as the EU. That's hypocrisy.
Money making organisation? Can you give me the figures on how much profit the EU has made and to whom it was paid to?
Don't be facetious.
Come on, don’t make statements you can’t back up , where does the ‘money making machine’ EU profits go?? I have a sneaky feeling they all go to the EU countries in the form of grants? Doesn’t sound like a ‘capitalist ‘ organisation to me "
Jesus, what do you think the single market is ? |
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Boy some people spout bollocks ...no one knows either way ...suck it and see shall we ...and if you don't like the way it goes you have 26 eu countries to choose from ...to go to the greater land .x |
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The European Single Market, Internal Market or Common Market is a single market which seeks to guarantee the free movement of goods, capital, services, and labour . |
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"Boy some people spout bollocks ...no one knows either way ...suck it and see shall we ...and if you don't like the way it goes you have 26 eu countries to choose from ...to go to the greater land .x"
, the greater land? Have you been drinking again |
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"There's no shame in wanting to remain to strengthen the economy, keep free trade, use the single market to increase wealth. You sound embarrassed that that's what you want?
I am embarrassed, I wish I had voted to leave now, decrease the economy , drop living standards all in the name of anti capitalism . I suppose that is you want? Or are you getting confused ? And have no idea what capitalism is?
I voted remain. Much as i hate it, my prosperity relies upon big businesses doing well. As you say, we need to remain to grow the economy.
I never mentioned growing the economy, the £70 billion figure relates to what the economy will lose . Are you still adamant that to be a true anti capitalist it is vital to decrease GDP and the nations economy ?
I think you're pretty blinkered if you think you can support an anti capitalist stance, and want to remain in a money making organisation such as the EU. That's hypocrisy.
Money making organisation? Can you give me the figures on how much profit the EU has made and to whom it was paid to?
Don't be facetious.
Come on, don’t make statements you can’t back up , where does the ‘money making machine’ EU profits go?? I have a sneaky feeling they all go to the EU countries in the form of grants? Doesn’t sound like a ‘capitalist ‘ organisation to me
Jesus, what do you think the single market is ?"
You do realise that capitalism isn’t about how money is made but how and where it is spent |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"They cant forecast what will happen next week, why on earth do you take notice of a ten year forecast ?
Who do you ‘ take notice off’ ? What experts do you believe in? Are all these reports still ‘project fear’? "
I dont take any notice of any of them they are alwys wrong, I jst maake sre my business sppliess what my customers want, I dont spend money I dont have and I dont waste what I do have |
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"They cant forecast what will happen next week, why on earth do you take notice of a ten year forecast ?
Who do you ‘ take notice off’ ? What experts do you believe in? Are all these reports still ‘project fear’?
I dont take any notice of any of them they are alwys wrong, I jst maake sre my business sppliess what my customers want, I dont spend money I dont have and I dont waste what I do have "
Brilliant, why dont the large multinationals copy you? |
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"They cant forecast what will happen next week, why on earth do you take notice of a ten year forecast ?
Who do you ‘ take notice off’ ? What experts do you believe in? Are all these reports still ‘project fear’?
I dont take any notice of any of them they are alwys wrong, I jst maake sre my business sppliess what my customers want, I dont spend money I dont have and I dont waste what I do have "
That sums up the mentality of some leave voters. I do it my way so it must work for everyone so the economists and other experts are all wrong? Bonkers |
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Im not sure what sort of impact from your OP, were expecting. But doing this just makes you look like a child.
Are you worried about losing 70 billion? If so do what the Tory party wanted you to do in the first place and vote for a remain supporting party. If you want to poke capitalism in the eye, vote for a Brexit supporting party. Unless you believe the leavers BS. |
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"Im not sure what sort of impact from your OP, were expecting. But doing this just makes you look like a child.
Are you worried about losing 70 billion? If so do what the Tory party wanted you to do in the first place and vote for a remain supporting party. If you want to poke capitalism in the eye, vote for a Brexit supporting party. Unless you believe the leavers BS. "
Try and to answer some of my questions, you are coming across as confused . You think capitalism is how you create wealth? You think anti capitalism is supporting something that decreases the wealth of the nation. You don’t know what capitalism is? Be honest |
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"Why is everyone so obsessed with growth anyway. Can't we just get back to being happy without wanting growth all the time. Who cares about ruddy growth and a bigger economy that sucks in more and more consumerist goods and makes us greedy for higher and higher standard of living and as a result higher carbon emissions. "
Growth in economic terms is like inflation and wages.
Inflation makes things more expensive so you need pay rises to keep up with inflation, yeah 
Growth, the first factor is a rising population, you could swap the population and call it inflation, the population is rising so the country needs to spend more on services and the best way a government can get more income "GDP" is through Growth of the economy.
Having a healthy growing economy that outpaces the population growth and expenditure reduces the need to raise taxes.
Growth can also lead towards additional job creation which is needed when you have a growing population.
So in essence, growth is crucial. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ? "
Rubbish all these figures are allways wrong,clairvoyants are more likely to be right
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"Has anybody seen the new NIESR report that has found that GDP will be 3.5% lower in 10 years time compared to staying in the EU which will leave the economy £70 billion worse off. Can any leave voters show me an independent report that finds Brexit will be good for the economy ?
Rubbish all these figures are allways wrong,clairvoyants are more likely to be right"
Ahh the good old tried & tested method of if you don't like something then convince yourself it's rubbish |
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