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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
Its reported that the new president sassoli has been having direct talks with bercow about brexit negotiations.It seems he has admitted in chamber that he has bypassed the PM and now having direct talks with bercow.Not sure how true these claims are. |
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"yep its true ive just seen the video of him admitting it in the chamber,i think bercow has now overstepped the mark and should be sacked before he leaves. "
he should have been sacked some time ago. I don't care what anyone says he has overstepped the mark with his position. He is poison
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
PM in waiting.
There is a Government in office in Whitehall but not in power.
There is a shadow Government in power in Parliament but not in office.
Welcome to Brexit Britain, a country convulsed by the toxic forces of nationalism. |
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Bercow meets Sassoli = collusion
Farage meets Trump = Nothing to see here.
Bercow's job as Speaker of The House is to ensure that the "Will of The House" prevails.
Sassoli and Bercow issued the following statement after their meeting.
"John Bercow and I fully agreed on the important role that our parliaments play in the Brexit process. There is also a common awareness that a disorderly exit of the United Kingdom from the European Union would be against the interests of British and European citizens."
This is a clear restatement of the clearly expressed will and view of The Commons which the EU parliament clearly also agrees with.
Bercow is doing his job, which is not to be impartial or inactive on ensuring the Will of The Commons prevails but taking any action necessary within the law to ensure that it does.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Bercow meets Sassoli = collusion
Farage meets Trump = Nothing to see here.
Bercow's job as Speaker of The House is to ensure that the "Will of The House" prevails.
Sassoli and Bercow issued the following statement after their meeting.
"John Bercow and I fully agreed on the important role that our parliaments play in the Brexit process. There is also a common awareness that a disorderly exit of the United Kingdom from the European Union would be against the interests of British and European citizens."
This is a clear restatement of the clearly expressed will and view of The Commons which the EU parliament clearly also agrees with.
Bercow is doing his job, which is not to be impartial or inactive on ensuring the Will of The Commons prevails but taking any action necessary within the law to ensure that it does.
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Doing his job? your having a laugh his job is to run the HOC impartially something he hasn't done for a long time and not to be holding talks with eu officials thats the job of the government.Love the way remainers spin it though you couldn't make it up. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
11 judges unanimously find unelected PM to be acting unlawfully by shutting elected Parliament - good old Boris, just trying to get Brexit done.
The Speaker of one Parliament meets his opposite number from another - traitor, off with his head.
Get a fookin' grip. |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
A Home Among The Woodland Creatures |
The government is legally bound to secure a withdrawal deal from the EU but they aren't negotiating in good faith - they're barely even trying.
Although I'm not a huge fan of Bercow personally somebody has to put the big boy pants on and get the job done |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well done Bercow...I applaud him .Hes doing a great job.
Just more far right lunatics in the forum getting their panties in a twist over nothing again.
Have a lie down buttercup and or have a cuppa..  |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"The government is legally bound to secure a withdrawal deal from the EU but they aren't negotiating in good faith - they're barely even trying.
Although I'm not a huge fan of Bercow personally somebody has to put the big boy pants on and get the job done"
And you know this as fact do you, are you privy to the meetings with the eu?Probably not just spouting labour rhetoric. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well done Bercow...I applaud him .Hes doing a great job.
Just more far right lunatics in the forum getting their panties in a twist over nothing again.
Have a lie down buttercup and or have a cuppa.. "
This  
They lead me to empty laughter. Pure hypocrisy. |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
A Home Among The Woodland Creatures |
"The government is legally bound to secure a withdrawal deal from the EU but they aren't negotiating in good faith - they're barely even trying.
Although I'm not a huge fan of Bercow personally somebody has to put the big boy pants on and get the job doneAnd you know this as fact do you, are you privy to the meetings with the eu?Probably not just spouting labour rhetoric."
calm down snowflale.
It is a fact that the government's proposed amendment to the withdrawal agreement was dead on arrival, and so did everyone else.
It's not a party political position to point out that a DOA amendment shows that the goverment were either not negotiating in good faith, weren't trying, or both - it's a statement of fact. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
ooh buttercup snow flake what next? Funny how barnier updated meps today saying "goodwill on both sides there could still be an agreement in the run up to the summit".But you believe what you want |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
A Home Among The Woodland Creatures |
"ooh buttercup snow flake what next? Funny how barnier updated meps today saying "goodwill on both sides there could still be an agreement in the run up to the summit".But you believe what you want "
I fail to see why you are struggling with this so much - it's really very straightforward - no need for a victim complex - no need to make mendacioius calls to party politics - no need to blame anyone.
No one is denying there could still be agreement - we've had one already and it's still on the table, it just won't go through parliament.
The latest proposals from us don't hold water with the EU.
None of this means there can't be an agreement - it just means we need to be realistic about what we can expect, and perhaps take a look at TMs so called red lines and see where we are prepared to move.
For example Boris, Gove, Davis and Farage were all absolutely fine with retaining freedom of movement during their campaigns - so there's absolutely no reason why we should continue to hang on to TM's insistence that we have to get rid of it, which is what gave us such a clusterfuck over our land border with the EU in the first place.
And If Boris won't do it someone else has to.
Then we can leave.
Simple. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
funny that costa has gone for the "tin foil hat" conspiracy today....
the way i see it is that the leader of one set of parliaments went to see the leader of another set of parliaments...
remember that BOTH sets of parliaments have to ratify any agreement
so even if the conversation was "so what do you think is likely to happen in yours?" i don't see any issue with it!!!!
costa went full "brexit party talking point" then..... |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"funny that costa has gone for the "tin foil hat" conspiracy today....
the way i see it is that the leader of one set of parliaments went to see the leader of another set of parliaments...
remember that BOTH sets of parliaments have to ratify any agreement
so even if the conversation was "so what do you think is likely to happen in yours?" i don't see any issue with it!!!!
costa went full "brexit party talking point" then..... "
Yep and as soon as we get rid of him the better. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dude your getting spoon fed from the cult of Brexit headquarters.The cult leader being Nigel.
Your Brexit knight in shinning armour is a unhinged lunatic in aluminium foil.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Dude your getting spoon fed from the cult of Brexit headquarters.The cult leader being Nigel.
Your Brexit knight in shinning armour is a unhinged lunatic in aluminium foil.
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Im quiet capable of forming my own opinions bob but thanks for the concern.Ps shouldnt you be having fun in the buddha bar instead of being on here.Try jimmy,z tomorrow night that will chill you out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yep its true ive just seen the video of him admitting it in the chamber,i think bercow has now overstepped the mark and should be sacked before he leaves. "
It's just a chat...
Is this the face of new Brexit Britain, off with your head if you're not gushing praises to our dictator  |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"yep its true ive just seen the video of him admitting it in the chamber,i think bercow has now overstepped the mark and should be sacked before he leaves.
It's just a chat...
Is this the face of new Brexit Britain, off with your head if you're not gushing praises to our dictator "
A bit dramatic as usual andy no one is on about killing anyone. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"PM in waiting.
There is a Government in office in Whitehall but not in power.
There is a shadow Government in power in Parliament but not in office.
Welcome to Brexit Britain, a country convulsed by the toxic forces of nationalism."
What a load of crap |
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"Bercow meets Sassoli = collusion
Farage meets Trump = Nothing to see here.
Bercow's job as Speaker of The House is to ensure that the "Will of The House" prevails.
Sassoli and Bercow issued the following statement after their meeting.
"John Bercow and I fully agreed on the important role that our parliaments play in the Brexit process. There is also a common awareness that a disorderly exit of the United Kingdom from the European Union would be against the interests of British and European citizens."
This is a clear restatement of the clearly expressed will and view of The Commons which the EU parliament clearly also agrees with.
Bercow is doing his job, which is not to be impartial or inactive on ensuring the Will of The Commons prevails but taking any action necessary within the law to ensure that it does.
Doing his job? your having a laugh his job is to run the HOC impartially something he hasn't done for a long time and not to be holding talks with eu officials thats the job of the government.Love the way remainers spin it though you couldn't make it up. "
I'm not making it up I'm telling you the law. The Speakers job is to ensure the Will of The Commons prevails and in that he is duty bound not to be impartial.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Bercow meets Sassoli = collusion
Farage meets Trump = Nothing to see here.
Bercow's job as Speaker of The House is to ensure that the "Will of The House" prevails.
Sassoli and Bercow issued the following statement after their meeting.
"John Bercow and I fully agreed on the important role that our parliaments play in the Brexit process. There is also a common awareness that a disorderly exit of the United Kingdom from the European Union would be against the interests of British and European citizens."
This is a clear restatement of the clearly expressed will and view of The Commons which the EU parliament clearly also agrees with.
Bercow is doing his job, which is not to be impartial or inactive on ensuring the Will of The Commons prevails but taking any action necessary within the law to ensure that it does.
Doing his job? your having a laugh his job is to run the HOC impartially something he hasn't done for a long time and not to be holding talks with eu officials thats the job of the government.Love the way remainers spin it though you couldn't make it up.
I'm not making it up I'm telling you the law. The Speakers job is to ensure the Will of The Commons prevails and in that he is duty bound not to be impartial.
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He is duty bound to BE impartial and not get involved with politics you don't seem to understand what his role is at all.He merely presides over procedures and determines who speaks."I have neither eyes to see or tongue to speak" |
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"Its reported that the new president sassoli has been having direct talks with bercow about brexit negotiations.It seems he has admitted in chamber that he has bypassed the PM and now having direct talks with bercow.Not sure how true these claims are."
If it helps wipe the smug, self satisfying, self serving, beetroot face off of Nigel’s mush then I’m all for it
Trouble is, I fear our Nigel secretly wants to stay in Brussels cashing his EU cheque to buy gravy for his moules et fritte or trotters |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yep its true ive just seen the video of him admitting it in the chamber,i think bercow has now overstepped the mark and should be sacked before he leaves.
It's just a chat...
Is this the face of new Brexit Britain, off with your head if you're not gushing praises to our dictator
A bit dramatic as usual andy no one is on about killing anyone. "
It's you being dramatic mate, I was highlighting how silly your comment about Bercow having a chat so let's sack him was. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.  |
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy. "
He is a great guy, keep up the good work and he should be knighted. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy. "
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy. "
You just dont get it do you....in another century you probably would have been calling for witches to be burned....its modern democratic parliament foing business because we have an unelected PM with no working majority being guided by a machiavellian zealot who has no respect for Parliamentary democracy. Bercow is there to perform the role of a referee and uses his judgement to maintain honourable and parliamentary behaviour in the house and he does a bloody good job of it....oh and lets not forget that we are still in the EU so all this old cobblers about treachery that you wang on about is not relevant or true. Just saying |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't get all this unelected PM crap, when did anyone vote for an PM you vote for a party.
If your saying he's unelected how did he get into parliament? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't get all this unelected PM crap, when did anyone vote for an PM you vote for a party.
If your saying he's unelected how did he get into parliament? "
Tresemme was the leader of the Tory Party when they won the election and was premier until that sulphurous boil on the arse of the devil Boris undermined her. The tory party did not vote for him as he was not leader of the party at the time....simples! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok so they changed the leader, so should go back to the people.
Please tell labour that because they won't let you have a vote. So don't blame Boris labour are keeping him in power. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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all the peeps banging on about boris being unelected are the same people who are all for a unity goverment elected by no one you couldnt make this shit up.keep up the good work.its makes my tea breaks very entertaing reading the shit that is wrote on here lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok so they changed the leader, so should go back to the people.
Please tell labour that because they won't let you have a vote. So don't blame Boris labour are keeping him in power. "
I am not blaming anyone and I dont think Labour are keeping him in power, I think they would like to see him destroy himself but who really knows whats going to happen? I think Boris is either looking to crash out with no deal and blame the EU or he is going to barely change Tresemmes agreement and get a shit deal. Either way he will come out of it looking like an idiot at best. I dont have much faith in Corbyn either but at least he is not an outright liar!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If the knickers are twisted now they won’t like the back room deals that will get the next speaker elected .Its a secret ballot so expect the tin foilers to be in overdrive. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily "
You seem to have difficulty understanding this so let me try to explain in terms you may understand.Your football team is in a cup final and days before the manager of the opposition is found to be having a cosy meet with the referee now do you think the majority of your teams supports would be happy with that,would the press be all over it like a rash? you bet they would and asking the FA for another ref.Hope that is simple enough for you and no im not getting my knickers in a twist i go commando most of the summer He is out on the 31st so i can wait. |
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily You seem to have difficulty understanding this so let me try to explain in terms you may understand.Your football team is in a cup final and days before the manager of the opposition is found to be having a cosy meet with the referee now do you think the majority of your teams supports would be happy with that,would the press be all over it like a rash? you bet they would and asking the FA for another ref.Hope that is simple enough for you and no im not getting my knickers in a twist i go commando most of the summer He is out on the 31st so i can wait."
Dreamer. If someone would pay for dreams you would be a very rich man. Or maybe you are. |
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily You seem to have difficulty understanding this so let me try to explain in terms you may understand.Your football team is in a cup final and days before the manager of the opposition is found to be having a cosy meet with the referee now do you think the majority of your teams supports would be happy with that,would the press be all over it like a rash? you bet they would and asking the FA for another ref.Hope that is simple enough for you and no im not getting my knickers in a twist i go commando most of the summer He is out on the 31st so i can wait."
At least it's better than finding that days before the cup final the manager of your own team has placed large bets for his team to lose, had secret talks with other team managers trying to get them to disqualify your team, instructed the players that they must not even attempt to win, said publicly that he would rather be dead in a ditch than to try to stay in the league, and generally done everything he can to frustrate any chance of your team winning or even being able to take part in future matches. |
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily You seem to have difficulty understanding this so let me try to explain in terms you may understand.Your football team is in a cup final and days before the manager of the opposition is found to be having a cosy meet with the referee now do you think the majority of your teams supports would be happy with that,would the press be all over it like a rash? you bet they would and asking the FA for another ref.Hope that is simple enough for you and no im not getting my knickers in a twist i go commando most of the summer He is out on the 31st so i can wait.
At least it's better than finding that days before the cup final the manager of your own team has placed large bets for his team to lose, had secret talks with other team managers trying to get them to disqualify your team, instructed the players that they must not even attempt to win, said publicly that he would rather be dead in a ditch than to try to stay in the league, and generally done everything he can to frustrate any chance of your team winning or even being able to take part in future matches."
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The problem here is the interpretation of impartiality. The speaker is meant to be impartial and show no favouritism to individual MPs regardless off party or their individual politics. However the speaker also has another role and that is to ensure the Will of The House prevails. In all recent history since 1688 no monarch or government has tried to subvert the will of Parliament and govern against its will. This cannot be said of the current government. The fact that the Speaker of The House has not had to exert the supremacy and sovereignty of Parliament and The House of Commons in particular in 330 years does not mean that in doing his duty of ensuring the Will of The House prevails he is anyway doing anything other than his job and duty. And on that the speaker is most definitely not meant to be impartial.
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"The problem here is the interpretation of impartiality. The speaker is meant to be impartial and show no favouritism to individual MPs regardless off party or their individual politics. However the speaker also has another role and that is to ensure the Will of The House prevails. In all recent history since 1688 no monarch or government has tried to subvert the will of Parliament and govern against its will. This cannot be said of the current government. The fact that the Speaker of The House has not had to exert the supremacy and sovereignty of Parliament and The House of Commons in particular in 330 years does not mean that in doing his duty of ensuring the Will of The House prevails he is anyway doing anything other than his job and duty. And on that the speaker is most definitely not meant to be impartial.
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so that means it's OK for the little twerp to go round with a, sticker in his car saying bollicks to brexit. This guy is, a moron at best.he is not fit for purpose Bring back Betty boothroyd any day. On top of all this he is, getting a six figure pension for life and he is only 56. What a disgrace. He is, a, right piece of work and if you cannot see that then I feel really sorry for you |
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"The problem here is the interpretation of impartiality. The speaker is meant to be impartial and show no favouritism to individual MPs regardless off party or their individual politics. However the speaker also has another role and that is to ensure the Will of The House prevails. In all recent history since 1688 no monarch or government has tried to subvert the will of Parliament and govern against its will. This cannot be said of the current government. The fact that the Speaker of The House has not had to exert the supremacy and sovereignty of Parliament and The House of Commons in particular in 330 years does not mean that in doing his duty of ensuring the Will of The House prevails he is anyway doing anything other than his job and duty. And on that the speaker is most definitely not meant to be impartial.
so that means it's OK for the little twerp to go round with a, sticker in his car saying bollicks to brexit. This guy is, a moron at best.he is not fit for purpose Bring back Betty boothroyd any day. On top of all this he is, getting a six figure pension for life and he is only 56. What a disgrace. He is, a, right piece of work and if you cannot see that then I feel really sorry for you "
The sticker is not on his car but his wife's car. I also fail to see how the size of his pension has anything to do with his impartiality or otherwise. Does Betty Boothroyd not also have a similar pension?
This is just another case of the right wing of the Tory Party and their BREXITER chums throwing their collective dummies out of their collective pram because some people put doing their job and their duty before kowtowing to their bully boy tactics. I just thank God every day that we currently have a speaker who has the backbone to stand firm and resolute against those that would choose to trash are representative parliamentary democracy in order to get what they want. |
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"The problem here is the interpretation of impartiality. The speaker is meant to be impartial and show no favouritism to individual MPs regardless off party or their individual politics. However the speaker also has another role and that is to ensure the Will of The House prevails. In all recent history since 1688 no monarch or government has tried to subvert the will of Parliament and govern against its will. This cannot be said of the current government. The fact that the Speaker of The House has not had to exert the supremacy and sovereignty of Parliament and The House of Commons in particular in 330 years does not mean that in doing his duty of ensuring the Will of The House prevails he is anyway doing anything other than his job and duty. And on that the speaker is most definitely not meant to be impartial.
so that means it's OK for the little twerp to go round with a, sticker in his car saying bollicks to brexit. This guy is, a moron at best.he is not fit for purpose Bring back Betty boothroyd any day. On top of all this he is, getting a six figure pension for life and he is only 56. What a disgrace. He is, a, right piece of work and if you cannot see that then I feel really sorry for you
The sticker is not on his car but his wife's car. I also fail to see how the size of his pension has anything to do with his impartiality or otherwise. Does Betty Boothroyd not also have a similar pension?
This is just another case of the right wing of the Tory Party and their BREXITER chums throwing their collective dummies out of their collective pram because some people put doing their job and their duty before kowtowing to their bully boy tactics. I just thank God every day that we currently have a speaker who has the backbone to stand firm and resolute against those that would choose to trash are representative parliamentary democracy in order to get what they want."
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Looks like the majority viewpoint here is that, thinking intelligently, he's a true expert in his job, especially at a point where the government is so extraordinarily complicit in undermining parliamentary sovereignty. It's embarrassing to glimpse the, (I'll be generous here) shit for brains thinking that some seem desperately proud to parade here, |
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By *ostafun OP Man
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"Looks like the majority viewpoint here is that, thinking intelligently, he's a true expert in his job, especially at a point where the government is so extraordinarily complicit in undermining parliamentary sovereignty. It's embarrassing to glimpse the, (I'll be generous here) shit for brains thinking that some seem desperately proud to parade here, "
Yeah i suppose if you take a straw poll of a dozen fabbers you are right. |
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He has also been in talks with the SNP and change UK to get the order papers changed to stop the government doing it job. But if it's for the good of remain side that's ok right? |
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"He has also been in talks with the SNP and change UK to get the order papers changed to stop the government doing it job. But if it's for the good of remain side that's ok right? "
Mate i cant be bothered anymore he broke with protocol ages ago against the advice of the clerk he thinks he is a law unto himself and would have probably been kicked out over bullying charges if brexit hadn't taken over.
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily You seem to have difficulty understanding this so let me try to explain in terms you may understand.Your football team is in a cup final and days before the manager of the opposition is found to be having a cosy meet with the referee now do you think the majority of your teams supports would be happy with that,would the press be all over it like a rash? you bet they would and asking the FA for another ref.Hope that is simple enough for you and no im not getting my knickers in a twist i go commando most of the summer He is out on the 31st so i can wait."
Shit analogy at best
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"what part of the remit of his job do you not understand? i suggest you read up on it.Just because he is your hero it does not mean he is right.But i really dont expect anything thing less from people who do not believe in democracy.
Ahh your so far and wide ranging generalisations again
1. Is there a Law dictating who can talk to who? and that's all it was, a discussion, No, I didn't think so.
2. I don't have "hero's", maybe you do but I certainly do not.
3. Democracy, I've said dozens of times the leave result needs to be implimented but that does not mean I won't challenge on here the lies and bullshit that's trotted out by leavers especially when the vast majority is easily debunked and has been over and over again.
4. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist so easily You seem to have difficulty understanding this so let me try to explain in terms you may understand.Your football team is in a cup final and days before the manager of the opposition is found to be having a cosy meet with the referee now do you think the majority of your teams supports would be happy with that,would the press be all over it like a rash? you bet they would and asking the FA for another ref.Hope that is simple enough for you and no im not getting my knickers in a twist i go commando most of the summer He is out on the 31st so i can wait.
At least it's better than finding that days before the cup final the manager of your own team has placed large bets for his team to lose, had secret talks with other team managers trying to get them to disqualify your team, instructed the players that they must not even attempt to win, said publicly that he would rather be dead in a ditch than to try to stay in the league, and generally done everything he can to frustrate any chance of your team winning or even being able to take part in future matches."
Now that's a good comparison |
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"He has also been in talks with the SNP and change UK to get the order papers changed to stop the government doing it job. But if it's for the good of remain side that's ok right? "
It ain't rocket science.
Boris Johnson inherited a majority of 3 or 4.
That means his administration is in control of Parliament.
Now he has a majority of -46.
That means he cannot control Parliament.
Numbers.
Parliament always is about numbers. |
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"Looks like the majority viewpoint here is that, thinking intelligently, he's a true expert in his job, especially at a point where the government is so extraordinarily complicit in undermining parliamentary sovereignty. It's embarrassing to glimpse the, (I'll be generous here) shit for brains thinking that some seem desperately proud to parade here, "
Don’t forget that he is a Tory so all the muck you try so desperately to rake up against him is water off a ducks back. He is a posh boy who respects parliament and is not afraid to go head to head with the over emotional dimwits who pass for representatives of the people these days. He does his job well and takes care of business fairly and in the interests of the HoC and parliamentary democracy and in so doing try’s to look after the country. The silly twats who pass for a government these days do not look to the common good. It will be interesting to see how much debt the government are willing to take on to provide their happy clappy budget promises. I have a feeling we will be looking at greater debt than labour ever produced and if everything goes tits up on wto rules then the country will be financially bankrupt and morally too. Oh and let’s not forget that Boris buddies will be more than happy to sell the debt to his government to begin with and then to scoop up the leavings when the brexit crash happens. I hope you’ve got private healthcare insurance because the way things are going you may be needing it. |
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"Looks like the majority viewpoint here is that, thinking intelligently, he's a true expert in his job, especially at a point where the government is so extraordinarily complicit in undermining parliamentary sovereignty. It's embarrassing to glimpse the, (I'll be generous here) shit for brains thinking that some seem desperately proud to parade here,
Don’t forget that he is a Tory so all the muck you try so desperately to rake up against him is water off a ducks back. He is a posh boy who respects parliament and is not afraid to go head to head with the over emotional dimwits who pass for representatives of the people these days. He does his job well and takes care of business fairly and in the interests of the HoC and parliamentary democracy and in so doing try’s to look after the country. The silly twats who pass for a government these days do not look to the common good. It will be interesting to see how much debt the government are willing to take on to provide their happy clappy budget promises. I have a feeling we will be looking at greater debt than labour ever produced and if everything goes tits up on wto rules then the country will be financially bankrupt and morally too. Oh and let’s not forget that Boris buddies will be more than happy to sell the debt to his government to begin with and then to scoop up the leavings when the brexit crash happens. I hope you’ve got private healthcare insurance because the way things are going you may be needing it. "
I fully respect him and his approach is outstanding. We've been very fortunate to have had him serve us. |
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"Looks like the majority viewpoint here is that, thinking intelligently, he's a true expert in his job, especially at a point where the government is so extraordinarily complicit in undermining parliamentary sovereignty. It's embarrassing to glimpse the, (I'll be generous here) shit for brains thinking that some seem desperately proud to parade here,
Don’t forget that he is a Tory so all the muck you try so desperately to rake up against him is water off a ducks back. He is a posh boy who respects parliament and is not afraid to go head to head with the over emotional dimwits who pass for representatives of the people these days. He does his job well and takes care of business fairly and in the interests of the HoC and parliamentary democracy and in so doing try’s to look after the country. The silly twats who pass for a government these days do not look to the common good. It will be interesting to see how much debt the government are willing to take on to provide their happy clappy budget promises. I have a feeling we will be looking at greater debt than labour ever produced and if everything goes tits up on wto rules then the country will be financially bankrupt and morally too. Oh and let’s not forget that Boris buddies will be more than happy to sell the debt to his government to begin with and then to scoop up the leavings when the brexit crash happens. I hope you’ve got private healthcare insurance because the way things are going you may be needing it.
I fully respect him and his approach is outstanding. We've been very fortunate to have had him serve us. "
the man is a knob singing the red flag and saying we will stop Brexit. But sitting in parliament like he owns the place, thank God he's leaving not fit for purpose. |
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"Looks like the majority viewpoint here is that, thinking intelligently, he's a true expert in his job, especially at a point where the government is so extraordinarily complicit in undermining parliamentary sovereignty. It's embarrassing to glimpse the, (I'll be generous here) shit for brains thinking that some seem desperately proud to parade here,
Don’t forget that he is a Tory so all the muck you try so desperately to rake up against him is water off a ducks back. He is a posh boy who respects parliament and is not afraid to go head to head with the over emotional dimwits who pass for representatives of the people these days. He does his job well and takes care of business fairly and in the interests of the HoC and parliamentary democracy and in so doing try’s to look after the country. The silly twats who pass for a government these days do not look to the common good. It will be interesting to see how much debt the government are willing to take on to provide their happy clappy budget promises. I have a feeling we will be looking at greater debt than labour ever produced and if everything goes tits up on wto rules then the country will be financially bankrupt and morally too. Oh and let’s not forget that Boris buddies will be more than happy to sell the debt to his government to begin with and then to scoop up the leavings when the brexit crash happens. I hope you’ve got private healthcare insurance because the way things are going you may be needing it.
I fully respect him and his approach is outstanding. We've been very fortunate to have had him serve us. the man is a knob singing the red flag and saying we will stop Brexit. But sitting in parliament like he owns the place, thank God he's leaving not fit for purpose. "
You genuinely are special aren’t you |
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Bercow is simply the best speaker Parliament has ever had. He will be an extremely hard act to follow. For those on this thread who don’t seem to understand; the speaker is there to act in the best interests of Parliament which is exactly what he has done. He has acted on behalf of the supremacy of Parliament , NOT any political party . What part of that do some of the Luddites in here fail to comprehend ? |
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"Bercow is simply the best speaker Parliament has ever had. He will be an extremely hard act to follow. For those on this thread who don’t seem to understand; the speaker is there to act in the best interests of Parliament which is exactly what he has done. He has acted on behalf of the supremacy of Parliament , NOT any political party . What part of that do some of the Luddites in here fail to comprehend ?"
I'm guessing that they just about manage to understand this but are blinded by their bias, wanting him to fulfil their Brexit fantasies. Any fervent claims of the importance of parliamentary sovereignty at the referendum were parrotted blindly as weasel words, as they highlight currently that they've zero interest, if it doesn't enable their distorted views. |
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