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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Come on... Don't tell me I was the only person who didn't laugh out loud at her face before thinking fuck me it's the devil and the Damien child in the same room!.

She's right, the end is nigh

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Here it is.

https://youtu.be/6i_rgFSNPFw.

Nobody can tell me that's not hairlarious

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city

Hilarious if you don't like trump. If you're impartial its a bit strange, there are people waiting to video her reaction. She anticipates his arrival.

It's just all a little strange for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hilarious if you don't like trump. If you're impartial its a bit strange, there are people waiting to video her reaction. She anticipates his arrival.

It's just all a little strange for me."

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I don't like either of them so I found it extra funny.

Two mentally ill people triggering each other off while the media drools for headlines.

Im geta and I'm here to take your hairpiece into the future for carbon capture because my childhoods been taken from me...I mean I hardly had any excitement this summer in a carbon fibre racing boat while I told the UN to FUCK OFF.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

Ah yes, nothing quite shows the intelligence and maturity of the 'adults' as cyber bullying a 16 year old girl because of the way she looks and the message of her speech (in a foreign language, she is NOT a native English speaker) at a petulant man-child who then uses his speech to the same body to boast about how great he is and about how many Nobel Prises he should be awarded because of his greatness, rather than calmly explaining why the 16 year old girl is wrong.

Of course no one has been able to do the latter because she is right so lets pile on and add our little bit to the cyber bullying. Because you are unpaid, unthinking, corporate shills for the petrochemical, fossil fuel and logging industries.

Shame on you all!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ah yes, nothing quite shows the intelligence and maturity of the 'adults' as cyber bullying a 16 year old girl because of the way she looks and the message of her speech (in a foreign language, she is NOT a native English speaker) at a petulant man-child who then uses his speech to the same body to boast about how great he is and about how many Nobel Prises he should be awarded because of his greatness, rather than calmly explaining why the 16 year old girl is wrong.

Of course no one has been able to do the latter because she is right so lets pile on and add our little bit to the cyber bullying. Because you are unpaid, unthinking, corporate shills for the petrochemical, fossil fuel and logging industries.

Shame on you all!"

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Meh, it was still hilarious, even the left eye squinted like the evil bond baddy.

Do you expect me to cut c02 ms geta! ... No Mr trumpy I expect you to die

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

We're all being taken for a ride.

Fear is control.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

We're all being taken for a ride.

Fear is control. "

Just watched it very interesting.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

We're all being taken for a ride.

Fear is control. Just watched it very interesting."

Shows you can basically prove whatever you like.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

watched her in a press conference yesterday one of the reporters asked her something that wasnt in her script and she didnt have a fucking clue just reinforces my opinion shes being exploited by forces bigger than her or her parents can see it all ending in tears

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Finally there is help out there.!

The Greta Thunberg help line is now live for all you adults angry at a child..It’s good to talk it out..It’s a free service like the Samaritans..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x49P_ZGeWq8

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Finally there is help out there.!

The Greta Thunberg help line is now live for all you adults angry at a child..It’s good to talk it out..It’s a free service like the Samaritans..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x49P_ZGeWq8 "

Did you watch the link that was posted bob? thought it would be right up your green street and wonder what your take on it is.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Come on... Don't tell me I was the only person who didn't laugh out loud at her face before thinking fuck me it's the devil and the Damien child in the same room!.

She's right, the end is nigh "

You are mocking a child?

Well done

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

and that is exactaly why there is a child front and centre its harder for politicians to ignore a sweet looking kid what would the voters think.if your the frontman for something your the first one in firing line so her parents have some responsibility for that after all they are the ones who are sposed to protect there child

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"and that is exactaly why there is a child front and centre its harder for politicians to ignore a sweet looking kid what would the voters think.if your the frontman for something your the first one in firing line so her parents have some responsibility for that after all they are the ones who are sposed to protect there child"

Wow. She should just shut up and stay at home like all teenagers should?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

News Thump

People who ‘just tell it like it is, mate’ continue hurling abuse towards innocent 16-year-old girl

September 25, 2019

Written by Lucas Wilde

The usual people who reckon being deliberately horrible is a sign of strength are at it again.

Graduates from The School of Life and/or the School of Hard Knocks have banded together to hurl bizarre amounts of vitriol towards Greta Thunberg, a 16-year-old girl who has done nothing wrong and reckons we should stop murdering the planet we live on.

“She’s such a fucking dick,” said Simon Williams, a lonely, angry man in desperate need of therapy but won’t go because he’s not one of those snowflakes.

“She’s 16 and she’s up there giving out to world leaders. Who does she think she is? Why isn’t she smoking and having an unhealthy relationship with alcohol like normal people her age?”

“Yes, by ‘normal people’ I mean me. My experience is the healthy norm which has led to this point where I’m calling a 16-year-old climate change activist a dick. Nothing wrong with that. Just telling it like it is, mate.

“…do you know any single women? I’m so lonely.”

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"and that is exactaly why there is a child front and centre its harder for politicians to ignore a sweet looking kid what would the voters think.if your the frontman for something your the first one in firing line so her parents have some responsibility for that after all they are the ones who are sposed to protect there child

Wow. She should just shut up and stay at home like all teenagers should? "

i didnt say she should stay at home and i havent slagged her off just pointin out she is the face of this generations bandwagon and if u gona put yourself out there then your gonna get shit of peeps its nothing new.personaly when i was 16 if ppl gave me shit about something i usually tild em to go fuck emselves.just goes to show no one listens to scientists but put a cute looking kid up front then politicians and celebs are falling over themselves to be pictured with her.just find it strange a 16 year old is being hailed as the saviour of the planet.but hey ho mother nature will deal with it all wen shes had enough if us.u do realise theat humans aint as important as we like to think if anything were like a virus to everything else on the planet and we keep spreading .just saying

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"watched her in a press conference yesterday one of the reporters asked her something that wasnt in her script and she didnt have a fucking clue just reinforces my opinion shes being exploited by forces bigger than her or her parents can see it all ending in tears"

One.org/350.org

Big business,money using a messenger they believe is beyond critism

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"watched her in a press conference yesterday one of the reporters asked her something that wasnt in her script and she didnt have a fucking clue just reinforces my opinion shes being exploited by forces bigger than her or her parents can see it all ending in tears

One.org/350.org

Big business,money using a messenger they believe is beyond critism"

Not sure what your saying?

That big business is using her to "push" an agenda of climate change to benefit themselves in some way?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"and that is exactaly why there is a child front and centre its harder for politicians to ignore a sweet looking kid what would the voters think.if your the frontman for something your the first one in firing line so her parents have some responsibility for that after all they are the ones who are sposed to protect there child

Wow. She should just shut up and stay at home like all teenagers should?

i didnt say she should stay at home and i havent slagged her off just pointin out she is the face of this generations bandwagon and if u gona put yourself out there then your gonna get shit of peeps its nothing new.personaly when i was 16 if ppl gave me shit about something i usually tild em to go fuck emselves.just goes to show no one listens to scientists but put a cute looking kid up front then politicians and celebs are falling over themselves to be pictured with her.just find it strange a 16 year old is being hailed as the saviour of the planet.but hey ho mother nature will deal with it all wen shes had enough if us.u do realise theat humans aint as important as we like to think if anything were like a virus to everything else on the planet and we keep spreading .just saying "

Perhaps she gives a shot in a way that you cannot conceive of?

Like that chancer Malala Yousafzai who arranged to get herself shot for the publicity?

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

im not sayin she dont give a shit wat i am saying for the third time is if u are gona put yourself out there and give your opinion about somethinv expect others to give theres but because shes a 16 yr old she is abouve critisism eh? the wirld dont work that wat no matter how much you would like it to.theres 7 or 8 billion people on the planet and the majority are to busy living there lives to give much of a fuck.know you cant comprehend that but thats life

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Come on... Don't tell me I was the only person who didn't laugh out loud at her face before thinking fuck me it's the devil and the Damien child in the same room!.

She's right, the end is nigh

You are mocking a child?

Well done "

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Well you've stole her childhood with all your flying, driving and consumerism

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Having lived alongside a President, you don't become surprised when they get close to you. She may have Autistic Spectrum Disorder but her wisdom and maturity is beyond her years, seemingly almost more emotionally intelligent than Trump.

Despite desperate attempts to try to knock her by many, she's given so much more than most could ever hope to do, to help create a healthier and more sustainable future ahead for all life on earth. Be inspired by her, rather than the noxious elements around

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Having lived alongside a President, you don't become surprised when they get close to you. She may have Autistic Spectrum Disorder but her wisdom and maturity is beyond her years, seemingly almost more emotionally intelligent than Trump.

Despite desperate attempts to try to knock her by many, she's given so much more than most could ever hope to do, to help create a healthier and more sustainable future ahead for all life on earth. Be inspired by her, rather than the noxious elements around "

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What's she given?.

Some speeches, a few days of school, sailed in a racing boat!.

Her parents live in a great big house, have loads of money, all the "grown ups" behind her have links to finance companies, hedge funds, electricity generation, banking there mostly the Uber wealthy and Uber chic.

She's had the best medical care, vaccinations, clothes, upbringing, food, heating, transport all provided for her by cheap abundant fossil fuel usage and the hard labour, education, ingenuity and graft of all the "adults" she blames for everything that's wrong in the world without stopping to think of everything that's also good in the world.

If you want to turn people off climate change and the inevitable disruption and dare I say it getting poorer that trying to mitigate it will cause then you can't beat being lectured to from an overly privileged adolescent and her bunch of communist self flagellating supporters.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data..."

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That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

These far right loons are unhinged.

I’m enjoying the tin foilers like Alex Jones comparing Greta Thunberg to an Aryan poster girl used by the Nazis.

She’s got pig tails it must be true.

The foil is strong in this thread...

Check out this tin foil gimp

“Children—notably Nordic white girls with braids and red cheeks—were often used in Nazi propaganda. An old Goebbels technique! Looks like today’s progressive Left is still learning its game from an earlier Left in the 1930s”

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"im not sayin she dont give a shit wat i am saying for the third time is if u are gona put yourself out there and give your opinion about somethinv expect others to give theres but because shes a 16 yr old she is abouve critisism eh? the wirld dont work that wat no matter how much you would like it to.theres 7 or 8 billion people on the planet and the majority are to busy living there lives to give much of a fuck.know you cant comprehend that but thats life"

She is receiving abuse about who she is and unsubstantiated claims are being made about her being controlled.

You are making unsubstantiated claims.

Abuse and criticism are rather different.

As usual it's a diversion away from what she is talking about.

Nobody gives a fuck until it effects them. Then it's suddenly rather important.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from. "

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data..."

No, they really aren't.

This is the current published NASA data. Starting in 1880. The opposite of what's claimed in your video

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data...

No, they really aren't.

This is the current published NASA data. Starting in 1880. The opposite of what's claimed in your video

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/"

I just responded to a YouTube clip from some random posted by some other random which is manifestly false.

Doh!

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Just another arse telling us all what to do

.bit like sting .bono .prince harry..charles ..need i go on ...whilst they clock up more miles than the rest of is ...all twats

...and now Greta garbage ...who next...could not give a shite

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just another arse telling us all what to do

.bit like sting .bono .prince harry..charles ..need i go on ...whilst they clock up more miles than the rest of is ...all twats

...and now Greta garbage ...who next...could not give a shite"

I’m sure the view from your sphincter is glorious..

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Just another arse telling us all what to do

.bit like sting .bono .prince harry..charles ..need i go on ...whilst they clock up more miles than the rest of is ...all twats

...and now Greta garbage ...who next...could not give a shite"

You do not give a shit about anyone or anything other than yourself.

You have made that clear.

Well done

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Yup correct ...thankyou for your comments ...deffo not taken on board....must just go book some flights whilst drinking throughout a plastic straw....forgot must go fill up my diesel van....and fuck I need a carrier bag ....oh no I won't save the world ...I will leave that to China Russia India Pakistan...as they doing lots to save us all x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”"

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Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome"

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Far right tin foilers don’t need facts .Theyve got YouTube videos...

Plus the girl with pigtails is obviously a tool of George Soros and his nefarious plan to get us to reduce greenhouse gases .Its what billionaires do .

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

glad i never gave up eating steak,bacon and sausages when those experts told us we would have a much higher chance of getting cancer.Seems now those so called experts were interpretating the data wrong.I wonder what next.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome "

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It's peer reviewed!.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Far right tin foilers don’t need facts .Theyve got YouTube videos...

Plus the girl with pigtails is obviously a tool of George Soros and his nefarious plan to get us to reduce greenhouse gases .Its what billionaires do .

"

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Says the man from twatter

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Oops Twitter

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome .

It's peer reviewed!.

"

Excellent.

What is?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone."

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?"

How about looking at the actual data rather than incorrect conspiracy videos which you claim to be equivalent?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome .

It's peer reviewed!.

Excellent.

What is? "

.

Everything I wrote.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

How about looking at the actual data rather than incorrect conspiracy videos which you claim to be equivalent?"

You're claiming ice-ages and interacial periods don't exist now are you? Amazing how one minute you'll tell us all not to believe what we read in the papers, but then we shouldn't question them the next....

Any alternate view is a conspiracy... such as looking at looking term data! , i could take you to the beach on an ebbing tide for 3 hours and convince you the sea level was falling...

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

How about looking at the actual data rather than incorrect conspiracy videos which you claim to be equivalent?

You're claiming ice-ages and interacial periods don't exist now are you? Amazing how one minute you'll tell us all not to believe what we read in the papers, but then we shouldn't question them the next....

Any alternate view is a conspiracy... such as looking at looking term data! , i could take you to the beach on an ebbing tide for 3 hours and convince you the sea level was falling...

"

Nope. I'm saying that scientific research is acceptable when building satellites or treating illness but a random punter on YouTube is more reliable when you don't like the answer.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome .

It's peer reviewed!.

Excellent.

What is? .

Everything I wrote.

"

Which is from where?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?"

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

"

Bob, you know ice ages don't run on 10 yearly cycles. Are you saying that we can prevent the next ice age, is this why China and India are burning more fossil fuel than ever before to save us all! Or is it because all their scientists are thick as fuck and us westerns are much more intelligent?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

It's a great way to tax idiots with a convincing story .......oh you have stolen my childhood ....what bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

Bob, you know ice ages don't run on 10 yearly cycles. Are you saying that we can prevent the next ice age, is this why China and India are burning more fossil fuel than ever before to save us all! Or is it because all their scientists are thick as fuck and us westerns are much more intelligent?"

I’m saying the sun has very little bearing on the recent anomalous increase in temperature.

We know a fair bit about ice ages and there cause. Im not going to explain here the earths orbital changes or axis tilts or reduced co2 in the atmosphere before ice ages .You can find that all out yourself.

We do know what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like.

It’s looks like earths twin sister the planet Venus .You can find out if it’s a holiday destination or not

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

Bob, you know ice ages don't run on 10 yearly cycles. Are you saying that we can prevent the next ice age, is this why China and India are burning more fossil fuel than ever before to save us all! Or is it because all their scientists are thick as fuck and us westerns are much more intelligent?

I’m saying the sun has very little bearing on the recent anomalous increase in temperature.

We know a fair bit about ice ages and there cause. Im not going to explain here the earths orbital changes or axis tilts or reduced co2 in the atmosphere before ice ages .You can find that all out yourself.

We do know what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like.

It’s looks like earths twin sister the planet Venus .You can find out if it’s a holiday destination or not

"

The whole point of the data debate is the fact, that we're not experiencing an anomalous increase in temperature. It is "usual". How much land has the uk lost to rising sea levels? How many skiing holidays have been cancelled? How long must we quake in fear about the thing that is coming to get us all! (Apart from if you're Chinese or Indian of course, in fact you'd think India world be more careful since its evident that rising sea levels only affect developing countries).

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By *ky19Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

It's like those posters that were on the bus stops a few months ago, with a doe eyed child on each one telling us "though a SMART meter won't stop 'climate change' it's a start".

Looking at it with the sunglasses from 'They Live' on it says something more like this:

"Children like these are suffering, and it's all YOUR fault for not getting a smart meter in YOUR home".

I'm not convinced anyone has to have a smart meter to save the world.

Incidentally I hear of a study that showed people who are sceptical of climate change tend to be a lot more environmentally friendly in action than people who virtue signal till they're blue in the face about it.

Strangely that seems right!

I've observed at home and work, probably I'm the most conscious about recycling, saving fuel and energy etc. No that's not virtue signalling, it's just the truth lol.

Pollution is a huge problem in the world so I'm glad measures have been taken, like the plastic bag charge, and yeah I can go with cardboard straws too!

Please, you really don't HAVE to have a smart meter, don't let the TV bully you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's like those posters that were on the bus stops a few months ago, with a doe eyed child on each one telling us "though a SMART meter won't stop 'climate change' it's a start".

Looking at it with the sunglasses from 'They Live' on it says something more like this:

"Children like these are suffering, and it's all YOUR fault for not getting a smart meter in YOUR home".

I'm not convinced anyone has to have a smart meter to save the world.

Incidentally I hear of a study that showed people who are sceptical of climate change tend to be a lot more environmentally friendly in action than people who virtue signal till they're blue in the face about it.

Strangely that seems right!

I've observed at home and work, probably I'm the most conscious about recycling, saving fuel and energy etc. No that's not virtue signalling, it's just the truth lol.

Pollution is a huge problem in the world so I'm glad measures have been taken, like the plastic bag charge, and yeah I can go with cardboard straws too!

Please, you really don't HAVE to have a smart meter, don't let the TV bully you."

I applaud your green attitude ..

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"It's like those posters that were on the bus stops a few months ago, with a doe eyed child on each one telling us "though a SMART meter won't stop 'climate change' it's a start".

Looking at it with the sunglasses from 'They Live' on it says something more like this:

"Children like these are suffering, and it's all YOUR fault for not getting a smart meter in YOUR home".

I'm not convinced anyone has to have a smart meter to save the world.

Incidentally I hear of a study that showed people who are sceptical of climate change tend to be a lot more environmentally friendly in action than people who virtue signal till they're blue in the face about it.

Strangely that seems right!

I've observed at home and work, probably I'm the most conscious about recycling, saving fuel and energy etc. No that's not virtue signalling, it's just the truth lol.

Pollution is a huge problem in the world so I'm glad measures have been taken, like the plastic bag charge, and yeah I can go with cardboard straws too!

Please, you really don't HAVE to have a smart meter, don't let the TV bully you."

i had a smart meter swapped to 100% renewable energy company and it doesnt work with them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's like those posters that were on the bus stops a few months ago, with a doe eyed child on each one telling us "though a SMART meter won't stop 'climate change' it's a start".

Looking at it with the sunglasses from 'They Live' on it says something more like this:

"Children like these are suffering, and it's all YOUR fault for not getting a smart meter in YOUR home".

I'm not convinced anyone has to have a smart meter to save the world.

Incidentally I hear of a study that showed people who are sceptical of climate change tend to be a lot more environmentally friendly in action than people who virtue signal till they're blue in the face about it.

Strangely that seems right!

I've observed at home and work, probably I'm the most conscious about recycling, saving fuel and energy etc. No that's not virtue signalling, it's just the truth lol.

Pollution is a huge problem in the world so I'm glad measures have been taken, like the plastic bag charge, and yeah I can go with cardboard straws too!

Please, you really don't HAVE to have a smart meter, don't let the TV bully you.i had a smart meter swapped to 100% renewable energy company and it doesnt work with them. "

Just like Brexit?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"How much land has the uk lost to rising sea levels? How many skiing holidays have been cancelled? "

These are cringe worthy questions. Jesus christ. You might as well be asking that old classic 'if there's global warming why is it cold today!'

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

Bob, you know ice ages don't run on 10 yearly cycles. Are you saying that we can prevent the next ice age, is this why China and India are burning more fossil fuel than ever before to save us all! Or is it because all their scientists are thick as fuck and us westerns are much more intelligent?

I’m saying the sun has very little bearing on the recent anomalous increase in temperature.

We know a fair bit about ice ages and there cause. Im not going to explain here the earths orbital changes or axis tilts or reduced co2 in the atmosphere before ice ages .You can find that all out yourself.

We do know what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like.

It’s looks like earths twin sister the planet Venus .You can find out if it’s a holiday destination or not

The whole point of the data debate is the fact, that we're not experiencing an anomalous increase in temperature. It is "usual". How much land has the uk lost to rising sea levels? How many skiing holidays have been cancelled? How long must we quake in fear about the thing that is coming to get us all! (Apart from if you're Chinese or Indian of course, in fact you'd think India world be more careful since its evident that rising sea levels only affect developing countries). "

There is no "data debate" unless you wish to apply a false equivalence between a couple of pseudo-scientists and the wealth of independent research before and since climate change became a "thing".

Shall we discuss the vaccination "debate" too?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

I see bacon is back on the menu.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"I see bacon is back on the menu. "
yeah and steak.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"I see bacon is back on the menu. yeah and steak. "

But those experts were so sure it was going to give us all cancer?

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

I think she is fabulous.

You old ones always complain about something.

Yet everyone thinks it's a good idea to get young people engaged.

Well, what do you prefer?

Ms Begum

or

Ms Thunberg

Give the lassie some credit, for fe*k's sake you grumpy old fuckers.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"I see bacon is back on the menu. yeah and steak.

But those experts were so sure it was going to give us all cancer? "

That's a really oversimplified portrayal of the situation.

There's been evidence that bacon is harmful. A new study suggests otherwise. This is how science often works - evidence builds up one way or the other over time.

To think that because there is an apparent conflict of evidence in the world of bacon eating there is therefore good reason to doubt the massive agreement of evidence on anthropogenic global warming is kinda stupid.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"I think she is fabulous.

You old ones always complain about something.

Yet everyone thinks it's a good idea to get young people engaged.

Well, what do you prefer?

Ms Begum

or

Ms Thunberg

Give the lassie some credit, for fe*k's sake you grumpy old fuckers.

"

She's great!

There are unfortunately a lot of people who won't hear anything that means the world isn't the way they think it is, or want it to be. It's the essence of conservatism.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"I see bacon is back on the menu. yeah and steak.

But those experts were so sure it was going to give us all cancer? "

...and there it is. One contrary opinion being rapidly taken to pieces as it contradicts itself. However that is being presented as equivalent to a huge body of research that says the opposite and lots of publicity.

To you it's a "win" against what? Scientists? Experts? What do you think that you've proven?

Time to stop vaccinating children? Why not? There was a paper once...

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you "

If you’re an angry red faced middle aged man now.Wait until October 7th to vent at the rebellion..

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Not at all swampy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not at all swampy"

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you "

Imagine if your anger was directed at the right people. Instead of a kid trying to do something positive.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Look ....if this kid was from a council estate ...they would not get the time of day ...this kid is from a privileged background spouting bollocks

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Look ....if this kid was from a council estate ...they would not get the time of day ...this kid is from a privileged background spouting bollocks "

You'd still shout abuse at her though right?

How else would you treat a girl or a woman who speaks her mind or disagrees with you?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Privilege...from the start and now eco freak ...just like old swampy ...ps I respect all woman and men from any area so don't turn it into that ....you don't have to agree with someone ...they can still talk bollocks but it's not a personal issue

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By *an For YouMan  over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Not sure who I’d like to see eating live cockroaches in Get me out of here; the kid or Dianne Abbot. The kid would probably enjoy it cos isn’t eating insects the eco way forward ?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Oh no you can't say that you will upset someone on here ...cruelty to cockroachs ...or racism..or ......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Look ....if this kid was from a council estate ...they would not get the time of day ...this kid is from a privileged background spouting bollocks "

Why does her background have any impact on what she has to say?

What has she said that's bollocks?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

So you think a normal kid would be listened toooooo..

Given... tv time and media time ....I think not ....this girl is a puppet...with money behind her

...oh I must get a yacht ride or fly around the world spouting more bollocks

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Privilege...from the start and now eco freak ...just like old swampy ...ps I respect all woman and men from any area so don't turn it into that ....you don't have to agree with someone ...they can still talk bollocks but it's not a personal issue"

"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you"

What have you written here that is "respectful"?

You think that she talks too much? Would you feel the same if she agreed with you?

You think that she's ugly? This is pertinent how?

What would be a better use of her life than her doing what she thinks will make the biggest difference to everyone?

Is it possible that a 16 year old girl is able to drive her own agenda or is it completely inconceivable to you?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

I think 16 year olds should become central to all future decisions in all aspects of life, from climate change, to what's for dinner?, then how many bank holidays there should be! Let all the children rule!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Privilege...from the start and now eco freak ...just like old swampy ...ps I respect all woman and men from any area so don't turn it into that ....you don't have to agree with someone ...they can still talk bollocks but it's not a personal issue

"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you"

What have you written here that is "respectful"?

You think that she talks too much? Would you feel the same if she agreed with you?

You think that she's ugly? This is pertinent how?

What would be a better use of her life than her doing what she thinks will make the biggest difference to everyone?

Is it possible that a 16 year old girl is able to drive her own agenda or is it completely inconceivable to you?"

You know when these loons attack an autistic child’s looks, shes got under these sad fucks skin..

So much winning for Greta it’s unreal.I mean who abuses disabled children or takes the piss out of any child’s looks and expects to win..

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Oh someone's rattled....

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

you peeps wana make your minds up if anyone mentions her being autistic its wats her illness got to do with it.but if anyone takes the piss out of her then its your insultin a child with a disability lol.its the reason why shes the frontman they thought no one would take the piss out of a child.if its that bad perhaps her parents should be protecting her.if shes been put out front because peeps think a child wont be questioned then its an epic fail.i personaly couldnt care less.i wouldnt trust a thing most 16 yr olds say let alone one who thinks shes an expert and can save the world.some adults out there will jump on any old bandwagon.and why are you greens on here why aint you bringing central london to a standstill or is it to cold and wet out there today

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

....cars would not start

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This child’s got under some middle age men’s skin ...they need to take the piss out of her looks..really???

There’s a help line out there for you angry bitter middle aged men it’s posted further up....

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you "

What kind of adult hurls vitriolic abuse at a 16-year-old girl with autism?

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

im not throwing abuse at all just pointing out if someone is the face of something they will be the ones in the firing line and the way adults have elevated her to some sort of leader just brings more attention on her. i will be long gone by the time the human race has dissapeared.as for the planet she will repair her self once the human race has fucked off.then what ever is left can live in peace without humans fucking everything up.jeez for a supposedly inteligent animal we certainly fuck shit up more than any ither beast

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

I've no problem with someone making the counter-argument.

But when there is no counter-argument - simply personal abuse - the gammon metaphor comes to mind.

She is everything they resent - science, young, female, articulate.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you

What kind of adult hurls vitriolic abuse at a 16-year-old girl with autism?

"

She's in the public eye, she's fair game. If she was supporting Brexit you'd be all over her like a rash! Your faux outrage is comedic at best! Buy mainly predictable and disappointing...

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

She appears to be having a lovely time spreading her message.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you

What kind of adult hurls vitriolic abuse at a 16-year-old girl with autism?

"

The same type of people who hurl it at a younger kid stood around in a Maga cap. Remember that fine thread? Some people ay.

Leave the girl alone people. And attack these mystical beings pulling her strings.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you

What kind of adult hurls vitriolic abuse at a 16-year-old girl with autism?

She's in the public eye, she's fair game. If she was supporting Brexit you'd be all over her like a rash! Your faux outrage is comedic at best! Buy mainly predictable and disappointing..."

I can assure you I do not hurl personal abuse at any teenage girl advocating change.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She appears to be having a lovely time spreading her message. "

She’s stayed on message and kept to the science her detractors just laugh at her autism and looks.

She’s winning the argument and gaining momentum.This is what drives them nuts..

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Oh happy days ...could not give a shit about her or the planet ...it's great at the moment and in 50 years...I will be gone so could not care at all ...let the young deal with it ..I leave my legacy to them x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Oh happy days ...could not give a shit about her or the planet ...it's great at the moment and in 50 years...I will be gone so could not care at all ...let the young deal with it ..I leave my legacy to them x"

"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you"

What have you written here that is "respectful"?

You think that she talks too much? Would you feel the same if she agreed with you?

You think that she's ugly? This is pertinent how?

What would be a better use of her life than her doing what she thinks will make the biggest difference to everyone?

Is it possible that a 16 year old girl is able to drive her own agenda or is it completely inconceivable to you?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Wow rattled ....she will have her 15 ...like old swampy did ...he achieved bollocks all ....oh he was another rich kid ...still I've spoilt her childhood...I'm pleased with that ....what crap she spouts ...maybe she traveling the world ....away from the UK will please me....and let's face it it's all good as long as I'm happy with my lot..and I am

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh happy days ...could not give a shit about her or the planet ...it's great at the moment and in 50 years...I will be gone so could not care at all ...let the young deal with it ..I leave my legacy to them x"

Horrific attitude.

What's happened in your life that you've ended up like this?

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Oh happy days ...could not give a shit about her or the planet ...it's great at the moment and in 50 years...I will be gone so could not care at all ...let the young deal with it ..I leave my legacy to them x

Horrific attitude.

What's happened in your life that you've ended up like this?"

He enjoys attention.

Some people attract attention for being positive.

And some for being negative.

Because they cannot find anything good to say about anyone except themselves.

Not hard to work out.

I'm sure there is a diagnosis for it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wow rattled ....she will have her 15 ...like old swampy did ...he achieved bollocks all ....oh he was another rich kid ...still I've spoilt her childhood...I'm pleased with that ....what crap she spouts ...maybe she traveling the world ....away from the UK will please me....and let's face it it's all good as long as I'm happy with my lot..and I am"

No need to be a c**t about it though is there....move on people, theres nothing to see here

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Yes and thankyou for your concern...I'm just happy in my own world and could not give a shit abought...the planet the planet the planet .....bored with it and the do gooders thinking they know it all ...esp so many experts on this wonderful forum ...but hey if u fancy giving it a go and eco friendly...truck on i wont judge you x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Wow rattled ....she will have her 15 ...like old swampy did ...he achieved bollocks all ....oh he was another rich kid ...still I've spoilt her childhood...I'm pleased with that ....what crap she spouts ...maybe she traveling the world ....away from the UK will please me....and let's face it it's all good as long as I'm happy with my lot..and I am"

"That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid is getting on my tits now ....get a life little one ...and stop the grown ups manipulating you"

What have you written here that is "respectful"?

You think that she talks too much? Would you feel the same if she agreed with you?

You think that she's ugly? This is pertinent how?

What would be a better use of her life than her doing what she thinks will make the biggest difference to everyone?

Is it possible that a 16 year old girl is able to drive her own agenda or is it completely inconceivable to you?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

No i think people behind her ..a puppet ...we all have our own thoughts ...as it is a forum x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"No i think people behind her ..a puppet ...we all have our own thoughts ...as it is a forum x"

So why call her "That gobby ..face like a smacked arse kid" if someone else is to blame?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

In my eyes she is but hey you love her so carry on saving the planet ...hope you don't drive fly or use carrier bags drink through a straw or fart ...do a bit xtra for me please x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"In my eyes she is but hey you love her so carry on saving the planet ...hope you don't drive fly or use carrier bags drink through a straw or fart ...do a bit xtra for me please x"

"ps I respect all woman and men from any area so don't turn it into that"

Unless you don't like how they look.

I fly less and offset my carbon footprint. Costs me more.

I don't use straws.

I reuse bags or not use them when I have a cloth one available.

Electric cars not ready for the distances that I driVe at a reasonable cost. The industry is pivoting though so that's something I have to wait for.

I'm doing something in a soft, middle class kind of a way.

I'm not bullying or insulting a sixteen year old girl though.

What we consider acceptable behaviour is different.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"In my eyes she is but hey you love her so carry on saving the planet ...hope you don't drive fly or use carrier bags drink through a straw or fart ...do a bit xtra for me please x

"ps I respect all woman and men from any area so don't turn it into that"

Unless you don't like how they look.

I fly less and offset my carbon footprint. Costs me more.

I don't use straws.

I reuse bags or not use them when I have a cloth one available.

Electric cars not ready for the distances that I driVe at a reasonable cost. The industry is pivoting though so that's something I have to wait for.

I'm doing something in a soft, middle class kind of a way.

I'm not bullying or insulting a sixteen year old girl though.

What we consider acceptable behaviour is different."

That's very true...

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Well done and hope young Gretel leads you on the path to the promised land....I'm sure as always you are so right and I'm wrong ...but hey I could not care less ....catch up later just got to fill up my 18 mpg diesel truck ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

Bob, you know ice ages don't run on 10 yearly cycles. Are you saying that we can prevent the next ice age, is this why China and India are burning more fossil fuel than ever before to save us all! Or is it because all their scientists are thick as fuck and us westerns are much more intelligent?

I’m saying the sun has very little bearing on the recent anomalous increase in temperature.

We know a fair bit about ice ages and there cause. Im not going to explain here the earths orbital changes or axis tilts or reduced co2 in the atmosphere before ice ages .You can find that all out yourself.

We do know what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like.

It’s looks like earths twin sister the planet Venus .You can find out if it’s a holiday destination or not

"

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It's a runaway emergency, yet for hundreds of thousands of years c02 has been a 1000ppm and 12,000ppm, in fact it was 280ppm 300 years ago the lowest it's been in a hundred thousand years and near to the lowest it could go without wiping out 70% of plant life, it's risen to 400ppm in 300 years, yes something to watch indeed, climate looming runaway disaster emergency buzzword omg we've got 12 years...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome .

It's peer reviewed!.

Excellent.

What is? .

Everything I wrote.

Which is from where? "

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Why does it matter?.

Isn't that the whole purpose of peer reviewing

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

"

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Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning."

Well you tell the skiing industry that, they're fucked! And i heard we lost another 25 square miles of east Anglia last night! Land that was only drained from the sea a couple of hundred years ago!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

Well you tell the skiing industry that, they're fucked! And i heard we lost another 25 square miles of east Anglia last night! Land that was only drained from the sea a couple of hundred years ago! "

.

Well it's pretty fucking obvious that people, towns, cities and the whole shabang create heat, we've gone from 1 billion to 7 billion in a hundred years thanks to err fossil fuel energy giving us scientific advancement like medicine, food, heat, travel, work (evil word to the Marxists on here).

Anyhow there was bound to be some warming and some warming there has been, still the population goes up not down thanks Africa mostly and to fossil fuel industrialization,Western medical breakthroughs, Western foreign aid, (oh the privilege),I mean how dare we save Africans from Ebola, it's not sustainable

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning."

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it."

.

If what you wrote were true we'd have got every climate model prediction correct instead of everyone of them being wrong.

It's a 1.7 trillion dollar market, it's massive, listening to you lot you'd think it's ten Bob

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it..

If what you wrote were true we'd have got every climate model prediction correct instead of everyone of them being wrong.

It's a 1.7 trillion dollar market, it's massive, listening to you lot you'd think it's ten Bob "

There is more to this than climate models.

And what's the market got to do with it?

There science is solid. The only people who dispute it, are people who don't understand it. Or people who stand to make less money if/when we start to do something about the problem.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it..

If what you wrote were true we'd have got every climate model prediction correct instead of everyone of them being wrong.

It's a 1.7 trillion dollar market, it's massive, listening to you lot you'd think it's ten Bob

There is more to this than climate models.

And what's the market got to do with it?

There science is solid. The only people who dispute it, are people who don't understand it. Or people who stand to make less money if/when we start to do something about the problem.

"

Naive.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The data is really undeniable.Every year more evidence builds the case for ongoing man made climate change.You may argue the severity of consequences with this experiment we are doing with our environment.The science is solid .

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"The data is really undeniable.Every year more evidence builds the case for ongoing man made climate change.You may argue the severity of consequences with this experiment we are doing with our environment.The science is solid ."

So why isn't China or India worried? Russia only got interested when it realised it could rinse rubles through carbon credits..

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

poland,hungary,estonia and the czech republic all veto,d the eu carbon neutral proposal for 2050 so they dont seem to bothered either.The uk government have committed to that so i suggest all the protesters get on their bikes and cycle over there to protest.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"poland,hungary,estonia and the czech republic all veto,d the eu carbon neutral proposal for 2050 so they dont seem to bothered either.The uk government have committed to that so i suggest all the protesters get on their bikes and cycle over there to protest. "

They're clearly not seeing the benefit in flogging renewables.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Taxi drivers.

One just dropped me in Inverness from the airport.

Protestors blah blah, doing more harm than good.

But he is convinced the cause is right.

What swung him was a programme by David Attenburgh on climate.

Attenburgh isn't a radical. Neither is the taxi driver. They both know we have a problem, however.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Taxi drivers.

One just dropped me in Inverness from the airport.

Protestors blah blah, doing more harm than good.

But he is convinced the cause is right.

What swung him was a programme by David Attenburgh on climate.

Attenburgh isn't a radical. Neither is the taxi driver. They both know we have a problem, however."

Flying

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"poland,hungary,estonia and the czech republic all veto,d the eu carbon neutral proposal for 2050 so they dont seem to bothered either.The uk government have committed to that so i suggest all the protesters get on their bikes and cycle over there to protest. "

I believe those countries are afraid of making the transition from coal-fired energy to low-carbon and the political consequences of shutting down the mining industry.

Short-term thinking governed by electoral cycles, just as we see in Trump's America.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Zero tax on aviation fuel. It's scandalous.

Means it is a fraction of the price to fly from Bristol to Inverness than it is to take the train.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Zero tax on aviation fuel. It's scandalous.

Means it is a fraction of the price to fly from Bristol to Inverness than it is to take the train."

yeah a lot quicker too long may it last.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

We need high speed trains running on nuclear electric

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"We need high speed trains running on nuclear electric "
yeah we need teleporters like in star trek but all a long way off.Until then we all have to live in the stone age.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Zero tax on aviation fuel. It's scandalous.

Means it is a fraction of the price to fly from Bristol to Inverness than it is to take the train."

What about the co2 though? Why don't you lead by example? Too many people preach but then follow the money..

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Zero tax on aviation fuel. It's scandalous.

Means it is a fraction of the price to fly from Bristol to Inverness than it is to take the train.

What about the co2 though? Why don't you lead by example? Too many people preach but then follow the money.."

yeah to many people breathing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The data is really undeniable.Every year more evidence builds the case for ongoing man made climate change.You may argue the severity of consequences with this experiment we are doing with our environment.The science is solid .

So why isn't China or India worried? Russia only got interested when it realised it could rinse rubles through carbon credits.."

The answer is always money.

Its disruptive and expensive to reduce carbon and clean up our act.There really isn’t a downside for the air to be clean in all our cities .

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"The data is really undeniable.Every year more evidence builds the case for ongoing man made climate change.You may argue the severity of consequences with this experiment we are doing with our environment.The science is solid .

So why isn't China or India worried? Russia only got interested when it realised it could rinse rubles through carbon credits..

The answer is always money.

Its disruptive and expensive to reduce carbon and clean up our act.There really isn’t a downside for the air to be clean in all our cities ."

You'd think China would be all over it!

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Zero tax on aviation fuel. It's scandalous.

Means it is a fraction of the price to fly from Bristol to Inverness than it is to take the train.

What about the co2 though? Why don't you lead by example? Too many people preach but then follow the money.."

We all have a carbon footprint.

I have gas central heating and do a lot of flying. But I do not run a car and use the bus for local trips.

Does that make me better or worse than anyone else?

No idea.

I look to politicians for policy leadership.

Incentivise the transition to low-carbon energy.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

It's a great way of taxing people ...and the best is the eco warriors/idiots can't see it ....blinded by science or kids

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think most people would say every child in the UK should have clean water to drink.

It’s not a huge leap to expect every child in the UK should breathe clean air.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Oh just the UK...so you now agree ...fuck the rest of the world then who pollute more than us ....glad to see you now joined my team

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By *an For YouMan  over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"I think most people would say every child in the UK should have clean water to drink.

It’s not a huge leap to expect every child in the UK should breathe clean air.

"

Over the last 50 years, official figures show a dramatic decrease in major air pollutants across the UK ; ammonia, nitrogen oxides, non-methane volatile organic compounds, particulate matter (PM10, PM2.5) and sulphur dioxide

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh just the UK...so you now agree ...fuck the rest of the world then who pollute more than us ....glad to see you now joined my team"

I’m glad you think every child here should breath clean air.

It would be nice if every child on earth drank clean water and breathed clean air.Wouldn't you say.??

Let’s start by cleaning up our backyard first.Then the rest of the world.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

I'd do away with modern pushchairs for a start.

Look at a child being pushed along the street and see how close their faces are to car exhausts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think most people would say every child in the UK should have clean water to drink.

It’s not a huge leap to expect every child in the UK should breathe clean air.

Over the last 50 years, official figures show a dramatic decrease in major air pollutants across the UK ; ammonia, nitrogen oxides, non-methane volatile organic compounds, particulate matter (PM10, PM2.5) and sulphur dioxide"

Yet if you google “deaths in the UK related to air pollution .”

We are talking tens of thousands every year.

The governments website says

“Air pollution is the biggest environmental threat to health in the UK, with between 28,000 and 36,000 deaths a year attributed to long-term exposure. “

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Yet people still smoke ...maybe that is worse

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"I'd do away with modern pushchairs for a start.

Look at a child being pushed along the street and see how close their faces are to car exhausts.

"

The ones that make me cringe are those cyclists in traffic pulling a carry-cot on wheels that sits at the same height as the vehicle exhausts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it..

If what you wrote were true we'd have got every climate model prediction correct instead of everyone of them being wrong.

It's a 1.7 trillion dollar market, it's massive, listening to you lot you'd think it's ten Bob

There is more to this than climate models.

And what's the market got to do with it?

There science is solid. The only people who dispute it, are people who don't understand it. Or people who stand to make less money if/when we start to do something about the problem.

Naive. "

In what way?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's a great way of taxing people ...and the best is the eco warriors/idiots can't see it ....blinded by science or kids"

Science is knowledge and understanding about the world around us. How can any understanding and knowledge be blinding?

Imagine if you understood more about the world around you more. I imagine you'd have much less hate for children who are trying to make a positive difference

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

No I would not ...but tk u anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I would not ...but tk u anyway"

If more understanding and knowledge wouldn't help you to hate children like Greta less, what do you think would help?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it..

If what you wrote were true we'd have got every climate model prediction correct instead of everyone of them being wrong.

It's a 1.7 trillion dollar market, it's massive, listening to you lot you'd think it's ten Bob

There is more to this than climate models.

And what's the market got to do with it?

There science is solid. The only people who dispute it, are people who don't understand it. Or people who stand to make less money if/when we start to do something about the problem.

"

.

No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

.

Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning.

We've been through this at length before. You said that you don't believe the science. So therefore you don't have a lot to offer in a scientific discussion.

We fundamentally do know a lot. Everything you have said here is based on your own lack of knowledge.

Please remember, that just because you don't understand, doesn't mean that other people, who are specialists in the field, also don't understand.

The science is solid here. There is no doubt.

We should be spending energy discussing what to do about it. Not trying to convince people who don't understand it..

If what you wrote were true we'd have got every climate model prediction correct instead of everyone of them being wrong.

It's a 1.7 trillion dollar market, it's massive, listening to you lot you'd think it's ten Bob

There is more to this than climate models.

And what's the market got to do with it?

There science is solid. The only people who dispute it, are people who don't understand it. Or people who stand to make less money if/when we start to do something about the problem.

.

No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think."

Who said science has all the answers?

The climate is extremely complex. No one is claiming to be able to predict individual weather events.

But over the long term the predictions have been extremely accurate. And even slightly conservative.

CO2 is one of many greenhouses gasses. And warms the atmosphere. There is a direct correlation between mean global temperature increase and CO2 ppm in the atmosphere.

Once again. Just because you don't believe it and/or don't understand scientific method. Doesn't mean it's not happening. The only thing is means is that you don't believe or understand it.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think."

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over..."

Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?"

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends."

Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made? "

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?"

I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me."

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess."

It's funny, isn't it. If the people bringing up these points are so sure that the actual scientists who have studied this their whole lives haven't thought of these issues, why aren't they writing their own paper and becoming rich and famous?

I know the right likes to say it's all a conspiracy and scientists are hiding the truth, but that's just divorced from reality. Scientists are competitive. If someone could show man made global warming wasn't real they'd do it and be legendarily famous and rewarded financially for the rest of their life.

The truth is, of course, that they have no real idea what they're talking about when bringing up these little objections.

Conservatives just get stressed by anything new, any idea that things need to change. So they cling to these little nonsense 'counter arguments' to enable them to mentally dismiss the issue and make themselves feel better.

Sad.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess."

So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then."

You appear to be so confused that it's hard to know where to start with an answer to this.

Firstly I did not publish any scientific papers on climate change. I studied them for three years as part of an environmental science degree. As a scientist I don't "believe" anything, science removes the need for belief and faith and replaces them with the scientific method.

Feel free to say random unrelated pieces of information like "oil in the desert". All this does is demonstrate your lack of understanding of the issue.

As I said you're free to choose not to understand how science works. But your opinions and beliefs on any science based knowledge and understanding, have literally zero impact on reality.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then.

You appear to be so confused that it's hard to know where to start with an answer to this.

Firstly I did not publish any scientific papers on climate change. I studied them for three years as part of an environmental science degree. As a scientist I don't "believe" anything, science removes the need for belief and faith and replaces them with the scientific method.

Feel free to say random unrelated pieces of information like "oil in the desert". All this does is demonstrate your lack of understanding of the issue.

As I said you're free to choose not to understand how science works. But your opinions and beliefs on any science based knowledge and understanding, have literally zero impact on reality.

"

Fuck get over yourself mate "im a scientist i dont believe anything" and who said you published anything? So enlighten me with your superior wisdom how my "unrelated pieces of information" demonstrate my lack of understanding on the issue.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then.

You appear to be so confused that it's hard to know where to start with an answer to this.

Firstly I did not publish any scientific papers on climate change. I studied them for three years as part of an environmental science degree. As a scientist I don't "believe" anything, science removes the need for belief and faith and replaces them with the scientific method.

Feel free to say random unrelated pieces of information like "oil in the desert". All this does is demonstrate your lack of understanding of the issue.

As I said you're free to choose not to understand how science works. But your opinions and beliefs on any science based knowledge and understanding, have literally zero impact on reality.

Fuck get over yourself mate "im a scientist i dont believe anything" and who said you published anything? So enlighten me with your superior wisdom how my "unrelated pieces of information" demonstrate my lack of understanding on the issue. "

Swearing at me has no effect on the reality of climate change.

I suggest if you want to understand the science behind it. Do some reading. There is a wealth of information out there.

I am not responsible for your lack of understanding. And I would be here until the end of time explaining away any random unrelated nugget of information that you believe has some impact on the discussion. For example you wanted me to explain why there is oil in the dessert. As if this is somehow disproves that human activity accelerates climate change. It bears no relevance what so ever.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then.

You appear to be so confused that it's hard to know where to start with an answer to this.

Firstly I did not publish any scientific papers on climate change. I studied them for three years as part of an environmental science degree. As a scientist I don't "believe" anything, science removes the need for belief and faith and replaces them with the scientific method.

Feel free to say random unrelated pieces of information like "oil in the desert". All this does is demonstrate your lack of understanding of the issue.

As I said you're free to choose not to understand how science works. But your opinions and beliefs on any science based knowledge and understanding, have literally zero impact on reality.

Fuck get over yourself mate "im a scientist i dont believe anything" and who said you published anything? So enlighten me with your superior wisdom how my "unrelated pieces of information" demonstrate my lack of understanding on the issue.

Swearing at me has no effect on the reality of climate change.

I suggest if you want to understand the science behind it. Do some reading. There is a wealth of information out there.

I am not responsible for your lack of understanding. And I would be here until the end of time explaining away any random unrelated nugget of information that you believe has some impact on the discussion. For example you wanted me to explain why there is oil in the dessert. As if this is somehow disproves that human activity accelerates climate change. It bears no relevance what so ever. "

No because thats what you choose to believe nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then.

You appear to be so confused that it's hard to know where to start with an answer to this.

Firstly I did not publish any scientific papers on climate change. I studied them for three years as part of an environmental science degree. As a scientist I don't "believe" anything, science removes the need for belief and faith and replaces them with the scientific method.

Feel free to say random unrelated pieces of information like "oil in the desert". All this does is demonstrate your lack of understanding of the issue.

As I said you're free to choose not to understand how science works. But your opinions and beliefs on any science based knowledge and understanding, have literally zero impact on reality.

Fuck get over yourself mate "im a scientist i dont believe anything" and who said you published anything? So enlighten me with your superior wisdom how my "unrelated pieces of information" demonstrate my lack of understanding on the issue.

Swearing at me has no effect on the reality of climate change.

I suggest if you want to understand the science behind it. Do some reading. There is a wealth of information out there.

I am not responsible for your lack of understanding. And I would be here until the end of time explaining away any random unrelated nugget of information that you believe has some impact on the discussion. For example you wanted me to explain why there is oil in the dessert. As if this is somehow disproves that human activity accelerates climate change. It bears no relevance what so ever. No because thats what you choose to believe nothing more."

Belief has nothing to do with it.

See above for details.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome .

It's peer reviewed!.

Excellent.

What is? .

Everything I wrote.

Which is from where? .

Why does it matter?.

Isn't that the whole purpose of peer reviewing "

Where are the "facts" that you posted from so that your peers can review them?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"The data is really undeniable.Every year more evidence builds the case for ongoing man made climate change.You may argue the severity of consequences with this experiment we are doing with our environment.The science is solid .

So why isn't China or India worried? Russia only got interested when it realised it could rinse rubles through carbon credits..

The answer is always money.

Its disruptive and expensive to reduce carbon and clean up our act.There really isn’t a downside for the air to be clean in all our cities .

You'd think China would be all over it!"

They are. Look at their investment rate in renewable energy.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

Well of course the climate is constantly changing.

The point is the all the CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, along with other greenhouses gasses has greatly accelerated the process.

All the information is out there for you to perusal. As with all science. You can choose to believe it or not.

Do you believe that water boils at 100 degrees C at sea level? You can choose not to believe it. But your opinion or belief has zero impact on reality.

Parts of the right wing media that support the profits of oil companies over everything else, often try to use anecdotal examples of random things, like you've mentioned above, to sow doubt into the minds of people who don't understand the science by presenting them as if they have equal significance to actual peer reviewed independent scientific studies.

You're confusing individual examples of non related information with actual evidence. And quite why you're demanding I explain them, is anybody's guess.So anything that does not fit with what you believe is individual data and not actual evidence?The evidence is that there is oil in the desert and i am asking you to explain it as it does not seem to fit with your man made global warming when the temperature was hotter then.

You appear to be so confused that it's hard to know where to start with an answer to this.

Firstly I did not publish any scientific papers on climate change. I studied them for three years as part of an environmental science degree. As a scientist I don't "believe" anything, science removes the need for belief and faith and replaces them with the scientific method.

Feel free to say random unrelated pieces of information like "oil in the desert". All this does is demonstrate your lack of understanding of the issue.

As I said you're free to choose not to understand how science works. But your opinions and beliefs on any science based knowledge and understanding, have literally zero impact on reality.

Fuck get over yourself mate "im a scientist i dont believe anything" and who said you published anything? So enlighten me with your superior wisdom how my "unrelated pieces of information" demonstrate my lack of understanding on the issue.

Swearing at me has no effect on the reality of climate change.

I suggest if you want to understand the science behind it. Do some reading. There is a wealth of information out there.

I am not responsible for your lack of understanding. And I would be here until the end of time explaining away any random unrelated nugget of information that you believe has some impact on the discussion. For example you wanted me to explain why there is oil in the dessert. As if this is somehow disproves that human activity accelerates climate change. It bears no relevance what so ever. No because thats what you choose to believe nothing more.

Belief has nothing to do with it.

See above for details."

you should be a politician not a scientist you are posting a hell of a lot without actually saying anything.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"It doesn't matter one bit if humans are adding to global warming or not.

What is undeniable is the climate is warming, whether it is due to Sun spots, Earths orbit through space, Volcanic activity or Human actions it doesn't make any difference.

For the first time in earth's four billion year history there is a species inhabiting her that can alter that change.

Should it not be everyone's responsibility to do everything they can to make our home safer for everyone.

If the earth warms and cools due to solar activity, how can we help change that? When the warming phase ends and we head back to a polar ice cap down as far as Watford, how will we as a species alter that? More tax ? More population control?

So can i assume clem your prediction is for global cooling over the next decade??

The sun has just entered the solar “minimum “ of its cycle and it would be logical if solar activity is the main driver of climate change we should experience a cooling effect.

You might want to google what we know about our star and other similar stars in our galactic neighbourhood and their cycles of activity..It’s all very interesting and should be on your radar if you wish to place the blame on our sun and not on human activity.

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Climate isn't a constant c02 is one factor in many many others, that's why the climate models don't predict very well because we really fundamentally don't know everything but yea c02 looks like something we should be concerned about looking to reduce but there's very little evidence to suggest it will cause a catastrophe, in fact there's about as much evidence for it as there is evidence saying it won't make a blind bit of difference, the vast majority of evidence lies in the middle ground of concerning."

This is incorrect. Where did you conjure this from?

Nice easy article with pictures for you:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me."

The change is now faster than it ever has been in hundreds of thousands of years. There is huge chemical activity now, created by us, that has never happened in hundreds of thousands of years.

Why would you think that changing the inputs would lead to the the same cycle repeating itself?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

The change is now faster than it ever has been in hundreds of thousands of years. There is huge chemical activity now, created by us, that has never happened in hundreds of thousands of years.

Why would you think that changing the inputs would lead to the the same cycle repeating itself?"

Not true sea levels rose dramatically between 14000 years ago and 8000 years ago since then in comparison very little.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

The change is now faster than it ever has been in hundreds of thousands of years. There is huge chemical activity now, created by us, that has never happened in hundreds of thousands of years.

Why would you think that changing the inputs would lead to the the same cycle repeating itself?Not true sea levels rose dramatically between 14000 years ago and 8000 years ago since then in comparison very little. "

That's a 6000 year time period you're talking about. And you're trying to compare it to a 200 year time period.

And I think you're confusing sea level rising with climate change. Two different, yet related, issues.

Honestly, accelerated climate change due to human activity is happening. Don't take our word for it. Go and read up. There is no debate here.

You not understanding what's going on, in no way implies a lack of scientific knowledge on the situation. It only implies that you don't know what's going on.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"No there's not, you claim science knows all the answers, if that were the case they would be able to predict with relative accuracy the future climate.

However I suggest you look at all the past predictions, there not even close, good science always has predictability built into it.

All we actually know is that c02 is a greenhouse gas that's gone from 280ppm to 410ppm in a couple of hundred years with a maximum recorded temperature increase of 0.7c and a sea level rise of few inches, the extrapolation of that gets trickier and isn't as solid as you'd have us think.

We also know that it takes 334j per gram to turn ice into water and that earths ice sheet are not just retreating but many have already disappeared. Clearly as we burn more fossil fuels and release more CO2 into the atmosphere with less ice to soak up the extra heat trapped in the atmosphere average global temperature will rise and the rise will accelerate as the ice sheet are exhausted.

But hey, what do I know about how these things work, you clearly have a much deeper understanding of climate science and are comfortable with how things are going.

Me, I would like to see action taken to reverse man made global warming and in 50 years time conservatives can complain about us lefties and all the clean air they are forced to breath.

Just a thought from a scientific illiterate for you to mull over...Funny how the sea ice was far less between 1972 and 1975 than it is now this data has been gathered weekly since 1970 how do you explain that?

I'll field this one.

This can easily be explained by you misunderstanding a study published in 2004 by the Journal of geophysical research, on the thickness distribution of Arctic sea ice.

And ignoring the fact that sea ice isn't the important measure of mean global temperature increases and also by ignoring longer term trends.Not at all these figures were produced for the 1990 climate change talks.The rise in sea water over the the last 20000 years is around 120 meters man made?

No. But as the climate warms this will have an effect on sea levels.

Rising sea levels is not the most dangerous aspect to climate change.

The point is that human activity is accelerating climate change.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Do you dispute the science behind it?I agree that the climate is changing and what i am saying is that its been changing for hundreds of thousands of years.For instance once the Sahara desert was a forest now you would think the planet must be getting warmer a forest is now a desert but no it was a lot hotter thousands of years ago when it was.It was cooling that stopped the monsoons from bringing the rain to the area and the forest dying.So explain that one to me.

The change is now faster than it ever has been in hundreds of thousands of years. There is huge chemical activity now, created by us, that has never happened in hundreds of thousands of years.

Why would you think that changing the inputs would lead to the the same cycle repeating itself?Not true sea levels rose dramatically between 14000 years ago and 8000 years ago since then in comparison very little. "

You don't understand the meaning of the word "faster"?

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

Here is a basic truth...

Most addicts die as a result of their addiction, be it caused by acute poisoning through an overdose or by the long-term damage done to the body by the addictive substance. It is extremely difficult to break addictions for 2 reasons, first there is the habit to break and then the addict has to be protected from the pushers whose business is based creating and supplying addicts.

The human race is addicted to fossil fuels, fossil fuels are killing the human race and we are in denial. The fossil fuel industry supplies our habit and is doing everything in its power to ensure we stay hooked even if it means the extinction of the species.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think we really don’t need to be concerned with climate change deniers.

Flat earthers are cut from the same cloth.Its all a conspiracy guff and nonsense.

Governments and industries are making the change required.For some the change is too slow for others it’s too fast .The important thing is that the direction of travel has been decided and there is nothing those that deny the science can do apart from moan and grind their teeth .

They’ll either get on board or be left behind.

They are irrelevant to the conversation .

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"I think we really don’t need to be concerned with climate change deniers.

Flat earthers are cut from the same cloth.Its all a conspiracy guff and nonsense.

Governments and industries are making the change required.For some the change is too slow for others it’s too fast .The important thing is that the direction of travel has been decided and there is nothing those that deny the science can do apart from moan and grind their teeth .

They’ll either get on board or be left behind.

They are irrelevant to the conversation ."

I dont see any climate change deniers on here only people who are skeptical about how its caused.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Still old swampy has left his farm ....rich boy back on the scene ..

To tell us all what to do ...another idiot who only surfaces to tell us all how to live our lives ...f off swampy grotta and all the failing science people who cannot predict tomorrow's weather...wankers all ...xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/cxQjOasRvGE

Now they're hiding data....

That's nothing, have a good look where the "98% consensus" comes from.

You claim knowledg but you really don't do much work. You just repeat an empty phrase that suits your opinion.

Bit of a BoJo really

This is one of the studies (one of) that gives the consensus figure:

J. Cook, et al, "Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming," Environmental Research Letters Vol. 11 No. 4, (13 April 2016); DOI:10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

Quotation from page 6: "The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”.

Well it's 1 of 4 sited by the IPCC, you've picked the strongest one and even he's a giant the world is doomed fear mongerer.

Are humans causing the climate to change, well duh .

12,000 papers and only 64 of them showed humans causing serious warming problems.

64% of the papers had no bias either way 34% showed human induced warming of which of that 34%, 97% of climate change scientists are agreed.

Wow, were all doomed in 12 years and definitely need flogging for robbing poor (rich) gettaaa of her childhood.

People who think the world is doomed in 12 years are loons only 1.4% of peer reviewed papers support that egg head conspiracy theory .

Your welcome

You did that calculation? Read all of the papers and analysed their conclusions?

I don't think so

Cut and paste from a denial site. Which one?

You're a fraud.

You're welcome .

It's peer reviewed!.

Excellent.

What is? .

Everything I wrote.

Which is from where? .

Why does it matter?.

Isn't that the whole purpose of peer reviewing

Where are the "facts" that you posted from so that your peers can review them?"

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Here's an idea, go look at the 32,000 papers John cook reviewed and see how many of them indicate climate catastrophe!.

Go on run along, cycle, swim, ride a donkey whatever

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