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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business " The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it " In both cases above , as a demonstration of intelligence and humanity words truly fail me   | |||
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"How long have you known about the delivery from Europe arriving after 31st October " 1 week Oh perhaps your solution was not to take the order hmmm Let's bear in mind , we were pretty much assured a smooth deal , up until well now really , So perhaps answer the OP | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it " No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called " Oh dear if you equate money to intelligence then you illustrate , highlight indeed, the irony
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt" If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine  | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called " In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called " What business do you run? Do you trade with companies from Europe or the world? | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. " Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called What business do you run? Do you trade with companies from Europe or the world?" At a guess... Fantasies and artificial intelligence | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called What business do you run? Do you trade with companies from Europe or the world? At a guess... Fantasies and artificial intelligence"  I don't expect a reasonable answer tbh. | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation " You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ? | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called " Well, piss on the fire Jack, my sausages are done. -Matt | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine "So, you mean *after* the first extension, and this happening? Cool. -Matt | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation " Your such a drama queen life will go on we will survive, but it's narrow minded people that are dragging this out, I voted for independence and hey we did t get it, but I am not one of the losers who insist we have another referendum, I got over it we survived nothing happened.. I voted to leave the EU if the vote went the other way I would have accepted it this was a democratic vote, but however many choose to ignore that fact, I and have become prima Donna's, instead if pla ning, ahead, I putting in proper business decisions on the exiting process, and you only have yourself to blame.. People need to have a bit more resilience and backbone and start being more positive, and stop greeting and blaming everyone else... | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ?" In my case, I specifically work with and run operations to do with data in the EU. My entire role is based on the fact that as a UK national I am a part of the EU and that I can access and manage the data held on EU located and ringfenced servers. So whilst my company as a whole can deal with it (get someone else to do my job). And whilst I can deal with it (do another job). It does highlight that there are certain things that I will no longer be able to do post-Brexit. The irony being that the Spanish guy who sits opposite me and the Polish guy next to me in my team will still be able to do their job post-Brexit and it is I, the UK national that won't be able to do my role. -Matt | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ?" Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Let's take me out , as suggested I'm fine thanks | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine
So, you mean *after* the first extension, and this happening? Cool.
-Matt"They wouldn’t be lumbered with 40% import duty - normal trade at the moment ! | |||
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"Yes I trade with france italy and Germany.....all my plans in place and goods delivered in readiness for any hiccups ahead.....as you know fail to plan....plan to fail ....but I'm pleased u doing well and please push on through this time ...." Anyone who trades with EU countries vote for Brexit to make their lives and trades more difficult? Who is to believe in such nonsense? I can feel it here bojo | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ? Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Let's take me out , as suggested I'm fine thanks " What does this mean ? | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine
So, you mean *after* the first extension, and this happening? Cool.
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They wouldn’t be lumbered with 40% import duty - normal trade at the moment !
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ? Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Let's take me out , as suggested I'm fine thanks What does this mean ? " Seems pretty clear to me. What part you having trouble with? -Matt | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine "My understanding is the "continuation deals" are conditional on a withdrawal agreement between UK and EU. No withdrawal agreement and it defaults to WTO. | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine
So, you mean *after* the first extension, and this happening? Cool.
-Matt
They wouldn’t be lumbered with 40% import duty - normal trade at the moment !
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At. The. Moment.
As I said, they did not know originally when the item had been shipped what the rate of import duty would need to be levvied on it when it arrived. No-one did.
-Matt"Well if it shipped end of feb and was due to take 30 days then I guess there may have been some worry that as the goods arrived, we leave Eu and South Korea then have to apply an increased import duty . But as we didn’t leave, the goods wouldn’t have that extra duty applied So no further concern | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business The most sensible thing yet to be said, the country will continue and new ways will be sought and the country will not collapse its all ridiculous nonsense to panic people those responsible should be sacked immediately an atrocious way to behave because they lost the vote. They have had three years to get over it No, it is not the most sensible thing said. In fact it is quite obviously the complete opposite to the most sensible thing. You want to pretend that we can source everything we need from inside our borders? Go right ahead. The rest of us are living in the real world. And you know what? Why should we have to source everything locally? "Just buy British wine" the leavers bleat. Yeah? What if I don't want to? What if for some reason I might actually *enjoy* eating and drinking produce from other countries. I mean, leavers thing that we will be able to still export everything elsewhere, so why would it be such a hard thing for them to contemplate that we might enjoy goods and services from abroad ourselves? I sympathise with the OP... it sucks. And to have the ongoing chain problem adds further issues. I was reading about a company that had shipped a large piece of industrial machinery to somewhere... South Korea I think... which would take a month to arrive by boat... and this was when the last failed attempt at Brexit happened. They were saying they had no idea when the equipment arrived if the customer was then suddenly going to be lumbered with a 40% import duty or not. But hey ho, Rule Britannia... Blue passports and all that. -Matt If it was South Korea, the uk signed a continuation deal in June, so it should all be fine
My understanding is the "continuation deals" are conditional on a withdrawal agreement between UK and EU.
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ? Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Let's take me out , as suggested I'm fine thanks What does this mean ? Seems pretty clear to me. What part you having trouble with? -Matt" His customer is expecting their delivery on 15th, they have already paid but are also saying they are going to cancel because they have sourced a more expensive uk landed product ... ?? | |||
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"Your such a drama queen life will go on we will survive, but it's narrow minded people that are dragging this out, I voted for independence and hey we did t get it, but I am not one of the losers who insist we have another referendum, I got over it we survived nothing happened.. I voted to leave the EU if the vote went the other way I would have accepted it this was a democratic vote, but however many choose to ignore that fact, I and have become prima Donna's, instead if pla ning, ahead, I putting in proper business decisions on the exiting process, and you only have yourself to blame.. People need to have a bit more resilience and backbone and start being more positive, and stop greeting and blaming everyone else... What a refreshing and welcome post... thank you Dear....! The doomers in this forum are incredibly negative and, soon, we'll all see if the ship sinks later in the year, or rides out the INEVITABLE initial rough sea when we do leave the European Union. After many visits here these past few months and having decided not to engage the hardcore whingers, pessimistic prunes and condecending cretins (whom, by the way, I am quite certain do NOT know who they are...!), myself and friends have been well entertained with some platinum howlers.... and, no, I decline to name any such outporings of tosh and who's ass these 'learned comments' were ejected out of, I or, should that be, 'we' would rather the show carries on to the apocalyptic finale, come November.....! Christ, what are the poor devils to do, come New Year, on this "highly regarded, in-the-know cutting edge website", where Mr. & Mrs Anon are here, quite rightly, I may add, just seeking a 'little extra' good fun in their lives, I wonder....??!! I noticed one thread and gleefully, I followed the various comments, groans and vacuous splatters with interest, as the heat was on the rise as was the typical bile as the 20-odd plus post got flowing and, all of a sudden, there was this grand post from some fed-up (lady) member saying, in so many words... "OI..!! get out of the LOUNGE(!) and leave us be, in peace and a Brexit free area, where we just want to chat about chocolate (I think it was!) and who wants to shag who, yer boring sods!! Excellent...! It WAS moved too, at some point afterwards and the thread is now hung up in here, somewhere, with the other gems and site treasures, hmmmm....!! You know, that sudden halt I arrived at in the, errr, 'flowing and heated debating' going on in that particular thread, reminded me of Python's classic prequel to (the even greater classic!) picture, "The Meaning Of Life", where the main film (the Lounge) was seen to be 'attacked, unwarranted by the support feature', i.e..., "The Crimson Permanent Assurance" (the thread resited to politics forum), or rather slung outta the Lounge to here, the Bedlam PLC of FabSwingers fora....!! Just the way my surreal and, I suppose, eccentric, 'sense of humour and stuff related to...' is wired. Thank Christ, really.!!! I mean, some folks' postings on here...., unless the 'urine is being happily extrapolat...... oops, I meant EXTRACTED'...'(!?!)...., on a daily basis, really DO have me think there's not a great gap between my own crazzy, oddball thoughts and abstraction(s) and certain similar 'beliefs and viewpoints' plastered here in the politics cubicle by some of Fab's more intelligent AND learned, serious......... people. What ho......?! Keep it up though, we're SEROUSLY, like... hooked..!!! XXXX And now, the epilogue.............. oh dear, it seems there isn't one. I DO apologise, we're all "doomed" apparently..!!! " | |||
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"For no deal ? Are we bollocks Not only that I'm not sure it is physically logically possible to be so I run a business this nonsense affects So food retailers are now wanting answers same as myself and a million other small businesses The trading conditions on Nov the 1 are currently unknown and possibly at this moment unknowable One scenario is same as today , no change no investment required The other is vast , logistical planning without knowing any details about others, computer systems changed without knowing any data to fill fields, data change admin costs, equipment costs , additional storage, additional staffing , All without fucking knowing anything for which we need to plan You can plan for the unknown to just about sustain life in an emergency, but damn a lot can go awfully wrong , not least, ransom That's right for every fuck up a solver will charge a premium, But there's the point we all work with links in a chain , it matters not how prepared some maybe, we are a joined up web To make a total guess on what preparations precautions a small business may need to enact within the next month and then spend thousands is not wise business I have a delivery from Europe Nov the 12th Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Delivery on the 15th of which month? October? No problem, we'll still be in the EU as leaving date is 31st. November? Where is the delivery coming from for it to take so long? Little wonder that your customer is considering sourcing it elsewhere, but to answer your question, when Parliament voted to trigger article 50, it dud so on the basis that we leave with ir without a deal. Without a deal, we revert to WTO rules. A resourceful chap like you should have no trouble in finding out what tarrifs apply to your particular product in such an event. I would suggest that most UK businessess that trade internationally have already put contingency measures in place to deal with such an outcome" You clearly have not read Article 50 if you believe Parliament voted to trigger it in order to exit without an agreement. Its purpose explicitly is to reach an agreement. | |||
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"For no deal ? Are we bollocks Not only that I'm not sure it is physically logically possible to be so I run a business this nonsense affects So food retailers are now wanting answers same as myself and a million other small businesses The trading conditions on Nov the 1 are currently unknown and possibly at this moment unknowable One scenario is same as today , no change no investment required The other is vast , logistical planning without knowing any details about others, computer systems changed without knowing any data to fill fields, data change admin costs, equipment costs , additional storage, additional staffing , All without fucking knowing anything for which we need to plan You can plan for the unknown to just about sustain life in an emergency, but damn a lot can go awfully wrong , not least, ransom That's right for every fuck up a solver will charge a premium, But there's the point we all work with links in a chain , it matters not how prepared some maybe, we are a joined up web To make a total guess on what preparations precautions a small business may need to enact within the next month and then spend thousands is not wise business I have a delivery from Europe Nov the 12th Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Delivery on the 15th of which month? October? No problem, we'll still be in the EU as leaving date is 31st. November? Where is the delivery coming from for it to take so long? Little wonder that your customer is considering sourcing it elsewhere, but to answer your question, when Parliament voted to trigger article 50, it dud so on the basis that we leave with ir without a deal. Without a deal, we revert to WTO rules. A resourceful chap like you should have no trouble in finding out what tarrifs apply to your particular product in such an event. I would suggest that most UK businessess that trade internationally have already put contingency measures in place to deal with such an outcome" Given he stated he is expecting it to be delivered to him on the 12th of November I think it is fair to assume he means his customer is expecting it the 15th Nov, not October. I've no idea what the lead time is on this item, but it is fairly understandable that it might take a while to make/source/manufacture and the order have been placed before any of this was clear. And it is still not clear. That is the point. -Matt | |||
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"Incredible how all you Brexiteers are so professional and prepared for anything! "It is pretty amazing, isn't it? Amazing how they can be so prepared for something they have no idea how it will impact and yet somehow they are unable to even articulate what they want that outcome to even be. -Matt | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ? Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Let's take me out , as suggested I'm fine thanks What does this mean ? Seems pretty clear to me. What part you having trouble with? -Matt His customer is expecting their delivery on 15th, they have already paid but are also saying they are going to cancel because they have sourced a more expensive uk landed product ... ??" We were promised an amazing deal, so we what are we preparing for? An amazing deal, a crap deal? Or a no deal? | |||
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"For no deal ? Are we bollocks Not only that I'm not sure it is physically logically possible to be so I run a business this nonsense affects So food retailers are now wanting answers same as myself and a million other small businesses The trading conditions on Nov the 1 are currently unknown and possibly at this moment unknowable One scenario is same as today , no change no investment required The other is vast , logistical planning without knowing any details about others, computer systems changed without knowing any data to fill fields, data change admin costs, equipment costs , additional storage, additional staffing , All without fucking knowing anything for which we need to plan You can plan for the unknown to just about sustain life in an emergency, but damn a lot can go awfully wrong , not least, ransom That's right for every fuck up a solver will charge a premium, But there's the point we all work with links in a chain , it matters not how prepared some maybe, we are a joined up web To make a total guess on what preparations precautions a small business may need to enact within the next month and then spend thousands is not wise business I have a delivery from Europe Nov the 12th Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit " I know you don't have plenty of time, but if you have some go and search for "why are brexiteers so desperate for a brexit in 2019", in YouTube... I'm sure it will give you lights on the reasons why the likes of Fartage, ReesMogg are shouting/screaming/begging for NoDeal brexit this coming month... | |||
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation You do sound exasperated I’m guessing if you are already prepared for Brexit then there are aspects to your business that are unique and are not covered ? Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Let's take me out , as suggested I'm fine thanks What does this mean ? Seems pretty clear to me. What part you having trouble with? -Matt His customer is expecting their delivery on 15th, they have already paid but are also saying they are going to cancel because they have sourced a more expensive uk landed product ... ?? We were promised an amazing deal, so we what are we preparing for? An amazing deal, a crap deal? Or a no deal? " Nothing is being prepared... I would say brace brace brace | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business " Correct. | |||
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"Yes, that's right. Why would anyone waste their time and money on preparing for economic isolation when the country's leader says the odds of it happening are a million to one against?" Was he probably quoting Nicolas Maduro? | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business Correct. " Where are Aldi from?? They don’t sound like a British company | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business Correct. Where are Aldi from?? They don’t sound like a British company "They are from Neptune bro... | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge " When do you think we will get this ‘amazing deal’? | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge " all remoaners (and also leavers, why not?) should check this: https://youtu.be/mBPZxbO7OLM
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge " Bring it on then....give us another vote and let’s see what happens.... I suspect the self righteous clowns will still vote the same and brexit will happen but at least it would be an honest victory not tainted like this one | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge " I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised. | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business Correct. Where are Aldi from?? They don’t sound like a British company "Germany | |||
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"Be like Aldi. 83% of there products are UK sourced....and they make the model work ....but best of luck to you and your business Correct. Where are Aldi from?? They don’t sound like a British company
Germany"Germany? Surely not. I can’t imagine someone would be stupid enough to highlight a German company when trying to explain how easy it is to prepare for Brexit | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge " They could lose again and again they'll never accept it. Toys out the pram time. | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised. "It was NOT advisory. I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand. We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so. I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners. YOU LOST!!! GET IT NOW? | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised.
It was NOT advisory.
I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand.
We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so.
I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners.
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GET IT NOW?"It was advisory, why are you getting SO ANGRY
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised.
It was NOT advisory.
I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand.
We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so.
I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners.
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised.
It was NOT advisory.
I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand.
We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so.
I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners.
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GET IT NOW?
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised.
It was NOT advisory.
I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand.
We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so.
I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners.
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Referendum was advisory but not legally binding.
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"Intelligence.....just so happens my business is doing great and not worried at all ....think adapt hard work risks try some of these ...harder you work the richer you become ...think on ...intelligence it's called In the last twelve months, my company has more than tripled profits, which I’m sure mr tax man will be happy about. Turn over is at a all time high. We have grown, prospered and adapted to meet the needs of the current circumstances and our customers. Sensualtouch15 My company is ready for a no deal Brexit, why isn’t yours? If Boris strikes a deal, great. We will change our plans. The fact you can not bothered to prepare your company for a no deal, is none of the governments concern or problem. Point missed In your condescending tone you are preaching to millions It's not individuals it will be a sum of the lowest common denominator, ie the lack of planning by the inept will in itself cause the ripple , and you're quite prepared to suggest many of us are inept, My financial position is if no concern to you, regardless of my position I would not wish discomfort on others Just seems mean And let's remind ourselves of what , beyond my comprehension, you are saying You should have changed your entire business, stopped selling a non UK eu product , started selling a whole new UK only (not NI though or Scotland) just incase the promised deal based Brexit decided to vanish ? Pure exasperation Your such a drama queen life will go on we will survive, but it's narrow minded people that are dragging this out, I voted for independence and hey we did t get it, but I am not one of the losers who insist we have another referendum, I got over it we survived nothing happened.. I voted to leave the EU if the vote went the other way I would have accepted it this was a democratic vote, but however many choose to ignore that fact, I and have become prima Donna's, instead if pla ning, ahead, I putting in proper business decisions on the exiting process, and you only have yourself to blame.. People need to have a bit more resilience and backbone and start being more positive, and stop greeting and blaming everyone else... " Resiliance and backbone is fine and well , it won’t save diabetics struggling to get insulin on time , delays at Dover delaying cancer drugs that are only available through import , bring back people who will inevitably die due to the above and impending troubles restarting in Ireland , I can see in small amounts why people voted to leave but tbh it was always A “ my vote and how will it affect me “ I know myself and my family will be fine but MILLIONS won’t , and to play directly into the hands of these BASTARDS who will benefit from a 1920s depression are wringing their hands with glee , Initially that fool Cameron brought this in to solve a Tory part argument,so the poor will suffer more than anyone else ? Win win win for the Tories I just pray it dissolves the union and the south east in particular can return to its crusade loving Empirical spirit that it loves to hark back to. Rations and Rickets for all | |||
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"For no deal ? Are we bollocks Not only that I'm not sure it is physically logically possible to be so I run a business this nonsense affects So food retailers are now wanting answers same as myself and a million other small businesses The trading conditions on Nov the 1 are currently unknown and possibly at this moment unknowable One scenario is same as today , no change no investment required The other is vast , logistical planning without knowing any details about others, computer systems changed without knowing any data to fill fields, data change admin costs, equipment costs , additional storage, additional staffing , All without fucking knowing anything for which we need to plan You can plan for the unknown to just about sustain life in an emergency, but damn a lot can go awfully wrong , not least, ransom That's right for every fuck up a solver will charge a premium, But there's the point we all work with links in a chain , it matters not how prepared some maybe, we are a joined up web To make a total guess on what preparations precautions a small business may need to enact within the next month and then spend thousands is not wise business I have a delivery from Europe Nov the 12th Please tell MY CUSTOMERS who are , a expecting their delivery on the 15th and b, have paid in full and c, have commitments with their delivery and d, who ARE telling me they are going to cancel as they have sourced more expensive UK landed items A, will it arrive B, how much extra they owe me C, should they cancel and make more inconvenience and cost but be prepared D, how much money I will lose , and for what benefit Delivery on the 15th of which month? October? No problem, we'll still be in the EU as leaving date is 31st. November? Where is the delivery coming from for it to take so long? Little wonder that your customer is considering sourcing it elsewhere, but to answer your question, when Parliament voted to trigger article 50, it dud so on the basis that we leave with ir without a deal. Without a deal, we revert to WTO rules. A resourceful chap like you should have no trouble in finding out what tarrifs apply to your particular product in such an event. I would suggest that most UK businessess that trade internationally have already put contingency measures in place to deal with such an outcome Given he stated he is expecting it to be delivered to him on the 12th of November I think it is fair to assume he means his customer is expecting it the 15th Nov, not October. I've no idea what the lead time is on this item, but it is fairly understandable that it might take a while to make/source/manufacture and the order have been placed before any of this was clear. And it is still not clear. That is the point. -Matt" I think maybe the point is he just wanted to have a good rant about it. Hope he feels better now | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things. "Priest: brexit means brexit.... brexiteer:Aaaaaaaaameeeeeeeennnn. | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things. "They are getting worried and more angry . I can’t understand why they are all frothing at the mouth , they must have realised this would happen , they were warned often enough | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things. "Ahahaha a comedian. The only extremists,sunglasses boy,are the cowards in parliament and the remoaners and their anti democracy rallies. | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things.
They are getting worried and more angry . I can’t understand why they are all frothing at the mouth , they must have realised this would happen , they were warned often enough "What were we warned? That we no longer live in a democracy and our vote will be ignored? What waffle is this? | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things.
Ahahaha a comedian.
The only extremists,sunglasses boy,are the cowards in parliament and the remoaners and their anti democracy rallies.
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things.
Ahahaha a comedian.
The only extremists,sunglasses boy,are the cowards in parliament and the remoaners and their anti democracy rallies.
"Remoaners , the word always make smile , usually used in conjunction with taking back control and will if the people , we won’t jet that many Roma people in after Brexit , last bastions if the stupid ./selfish/racist . Delete non applicable tho few will . Leave voters are prepared to fiddle while Rome burns with no humility or thought fir the people that will suffer ... Old Stagers in parliament always state their terrified of Referendi due to the fact that on a yes or no vote , fuqwits come out the woodwork | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things.
They are getting worried and more angry . I can’t understand why they are all frothing at the mouth , they must have realised this would happen , they were warned often enough
What were we warned? That we no longer live in a democracy and our vote will be ignored?
What waffle is this? "Yeah, it is funny that you thought you would get the exact Brexit you voted for, | |||
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" So much anger from the Brexit extremists . It’s become like a religious cult for the unhinged minds.Lets hope they don’t have access to sharp pointy things.
Ahahaha a comedian.
The only extremists,sunglasses boy,are the cowards in parliament and the remoaners and their anti democracy rallies.
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge " Accepting the result isn't in question here though is it, it's the mentality of no deal that is being discussed if it had slipped past your thought process | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised.
It was NOT advisory.
I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand.
We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so.
I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners.
YOU LOST!!!
GET IT NOW?"Before you have a heart attack and make yourself look daft you might want to look up how the referendum was constructed Here, I'll help you " Following the 2016 referendum, the High Court confirmed that the result was not legally binding, owing to the constitutional principles of parliamentary sovereignty and representative democracy, and the legislation authorising the referendum did not contain clear words to the contrary. " There | |||
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"Incredible how remoaners still cant accept a result ....if you had the same result again will you accept the vote ...or keep moaning on ....whinge. whinge whinge I accepted the result even though it was advisory I am getting excited about leaving the EU with the ‘amazing deal’ we were promised.
It was NOT advisory.
I read the ballot paper before voting . Nowhere did it say advisory nor did any politician beforehand.
We were told clearly many times that a vote to leave meant leaving the single market,customs union and ecj. It was a once only vote,Cameron said so.
I'm sick of this "advisory" lie that is constantly peddled by whinnie remoaners.
YOU LOST!!!
GET IT NOW?
Before you have a heart attack and make yourself look daft you might want to look up how the referendum was constructed
Here, I'll help you
Following the 2016 referendum, the High Court confirmed that the result was not legally binding, owing to the constitutional principles of parliamentary sovereignty and representative democracy, and the legislation authorising the referendum did not contain clear words to the contrary.
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"So it was only Cameron? Anyone after him can ignore democracy? The EU does this all the time,ignore referendums. Like remoaners. You lost and we are leaving. End. "You leavers are all the same, you chat rubbish bullshit, get proved totally bloody wrong then switch the issue instead of holding their hands up and admitting you were wrong and then stick you lost on the end in a bizarre attempt to win back the argument
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"So it was only Cameron? Anyone after him can ignore democracy? The EU does this all the time,ignore referendums. Like remoaners. You lost and we are leaving. End. "When are we leaving? And how are we leaving? | |||
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"Or if that's too complicated The Referendum was only Advisory David Cameron promised to go through whatever the result was David Cameron resigned the day after the Advisory Referendum Any major form of your promised Brexit basically died that morning You should feel lucky it's still limping ahead because no one has ANY obligation to carry it through "The leaflet that came through the door was in or out yes or no simple question the leavers knew what they were voting for not this shit show in parliament we wanted to leave parliament wanted to stay that is what the problem is x | |||
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" Whatever happens on 31st we will cope with and make the best of whatever happens because that is what brits do x " Is it though? All this war time spirit stuff seems like nonsense to me. In winter we go to pieces because it's snowy. In summer we give up because it's hot. KFC ran out of chicken and people had a melt down. I reckon we have more than our fair share of entitled snowflakes (of all ages and political affiliation) and the discomfort caused by Brexit is going to cause some serious tantrums when reality kicks in. | |||
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" Whatever happens on 31st we will cope with and make the best of whatever happens because that is what brits do x Is it though? All this war time spirit stuff seems like nonsense to me. In winter we go to pieces because it's snowy. In summer we give up because it's hot. KFC ran out of chicken and people had a melt down. I reckon we have more than our fair share of entitled snowflakes (of all ages and political affiliation) and the discomfort caused by Brexit is going to cause some serious tantrums when reality kicks in. " Ah a truth The dunkirk spirit as a national trait is utter nonsense | |||
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" Whatever happens on 31st we will cope with and make the best of whatever happens because that is what brits do x Is it though? All this war time spirit stuff seems like nonsense to me. In winter we go to pieces because it's snowy. In summer we give up because it's hot. KFC ran out of chicken and people had a melt down. I reckon we have more than our fair share of entitled snowflakes (of all ages and political affiliation) and the discomfort caused by Brexit is going to cause some serious tantrums when reality kicks in. " If not I am moving to new Zealand lol x | |||
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"I am prepared for any out come on 31st Oct what I am not prepared for is this shit show carrying on for another year. Whatever happens on 31st we will cope with and make the best of whatever happens because that is what brits do x " Yes indeed, we will cope and make the best of whatever happens but Brexit was never billed as something we would have to cope with a make the best of whatever happens was it | |||
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"It is the politicians that twisted us in knots and created the mess that we are in with austerity and three years of wasted time and being unsettled. It is time to move on now and to rebuild britain. It is the people that will rebuild Britain not the politicians. We were bankrupt after the war. But look what happened. We managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" And there you have it folks....what’s a little death and starvation among the working population matter when we have the dunkirk spirit to keep us going no matter how shit it gets. I am sure you are all ready to jump and mock me but as I am an old git I do actually remember the early 70’s when we had to have the power on for only a few hours a day and candles were in short supply. There were shortages of bread, sugar and fresh food (granted that this was the result of the miners strikes) which most of you haven’t had to experience and if it gets as bad as predicted you entitled lot are all in for a bit of a wake up call. | |||
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"It is the politicians that twisted us in knots and created the mess that we are in with austerity and three years of wasted time and being unsettled. It is time to move on now and to rebuild britain. It is the people that will rebuild Britain not the politicians. We were bankrupt after the war. But look what happened. We managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x And there you have it folks....what’s a little death and starvation among the working population matter when we have the dunkirk spirit to keep us going no matter how shit it gets. I am sure you are all ready to jump and mock me but as I am an old git I do actually remember the early 70’s when we had to have the power on for only a few hours a day and candles were in short supply. There were shortages of bread, sugar and fresh food (granted that this was the result of the miners strikes) which most of you haven’t had to experience and if it gets as bad as predicted you entitled lot are all in for a bit of a wake up call. "Funny how you remember all that when you wold have been three at the time, | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x" Exactly, well said | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x" Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you. "Do you not think the UK is strong enough then? | |||
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"It is the politicians that twisted us in knots and created the mess that we are in with austerity and three years of wasted time and being unsettled. It is time to move on now and to rebuild britain. It is the people that will rebuild Britain not the politicians. We were bankrupt after the war. But look what happened. We managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" What's stopping us now? Some examples would be great to give us perspective | |||
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"It is the politicians that twisted us in knots and created the mess that we are in with austerity and three years of wasted time and being unsettled. It is time to move on now and to rebuild britain. It is the people that will rebuild Britain not the politicians. We were bankrupt after the war. But look what happened. We managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x What's stopping us now? Some examples would be great to give us perspective ". I will start ,,,example 1 , blue passports ,, we couldn't have blue passports if we were in the EU ,, ( actually we could but shhhh don't tell anyone ) | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then? "And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical."Question what was so good about joining the EU in the first place if only to prop them up they get more from us than we do from them. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical.
Question what was so good about joining the EU in the first place if only to prop them up they get more from us than we do from them."And you dare to say that after having enjoyed so much Mediterranean (Spanish, Italian Greek, you name it) cock... Naughty girl | |||
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"I am prepared for any out come on 31st Oct what I am not prepared for is this shit show carrying on for another year. Whatever happens on 31st we will cope with and make the best of whatever happens because that is what brits do x " There's many, many more like your good self out there Sharon, the good people. (one of the TWO kinds of people = humans = folks, that is. The direct opposite to the other, the 'not good'. Period!) Too basic for the poor 'vaccuumites' to get a grip of, (my own descriptive collective noun..!)........ The 'half empty glass' types, to whom the world owes a living plus a box to put it in, etc., The 'no can do's', the ones that project THEIR 'no can do' on everyone else and perform a great impersonation of a stuck pig if unheeded.., Selfish, 'me me me' types, strangers to free thought and allergic to self advancement...' The greatest exponents of the term 'taking for granted' with a good (self) helping of 'taking advantage of' mixed together and served up on a silver platter as a 'right'.... etc., etc., etc..... My collective mental image of these poor, downtrodden victims of life in MY homeland is not my own, I have yet again (but the last...!) borrowed it from Python....... Yes folks, watch out! Here comes Mr. Creosote, the epitome of negativity, greed, indifference, disrespect and rightful, indeed, deseved expectation...! Oh, if only there was a "waffeur thin mint" I could give, gratis.... of course...!! Bon appetit....? More fittingly..., 'bon vivant' m'seuir...! | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical.
Question what was so good about joining the EU in the first place if only to prop them up they get more from us than we do from them."It is enough to compare the UK economy before joining the community to how the UK economy began to develop after joining the community. All countries that already belonged to the community had several times stronger economies than the UK. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x" Imagine going into an air raid shelter and discovering half the people had voted for it. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Imagine going into an air raid shelter and discovering half the people had voted for it. Irrelevant. Childish. Bizarre & Ambiguous. " | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical.
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? " We can the trouble started when the labour government underestimated how many e europeans were going to come to the uk.If i remember they thought it would be 100,000 and it turned out to be over 2 million.Governments work on long term plans so build schools, hospitals etc on what is calculated for the next 10 years.With controlled immigration this will be possible again and was all that cameron was after and a few tweaks to the benifit system when he went to the eu but they point blank refused and so here we are. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? " Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places." The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x" Are you comparing Brexit with 2 world wars? Really? | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places." That's gona take a bit of doing them Torry bunch sold off all manufacturering if you look at who is behind the company's today it's all German and us and China and it's only components we make. Proper manufacturers died in this country years ago They say we are a service country now! So everything that is made has to be imported. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places." And after Brexit we will still have no idea what the population will be? | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Imagine going into an air raid shelter and discovering half the people had voted for it. "It’s just awesome that brexit is now being compared to our recovery from WW II. Finally someone admits Brexit is destructive . | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Imagine going into an air raid shelter and discovering half the people had voted for it.
It’s just awesome that brexit is now being compared to our recovery from WW II.
Finally someone admits Brexit is destructive .
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" Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places." That is simply wrong. Central and local government do it all the time, using data and trends to project demographic forecasts for 5,10,15,20 years hence. The problem is not a lack of data upon which to base long-term investment and infrastructure decisions - it is the five-year policy cycle of Westminster. Successive governments repeatedly fail to plan beyond the horizon of the next General Election. That is a failure of domestic governance. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. " Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. " Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India? | |||
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" The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. " Yes, the country will collapse when the British migrants in Spain return home in their droves. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. " These ‘2 million’ people contribute to our economy, taxes on wages and goods they buy?when they leave what will happen ?? Please explain ?? | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India?" I have no issue with immigrants and never have just pointing out the facts.You really must stop taking everything so personal and look at the logical answers. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India?I have no issue with immigrants and never have just pointing out the facts.You really must stop taking everything so personal and look at the logical answers." Maybe you start to get the real facts first. In the constant accusation of eu and eu immigrants there is certainly no logic but empty hatred. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India?I have no issue with immigrants and never have just pointing out the facts.You really must stop taking everything so personal and look at the logical answers. Maybe you start to get the real facts first. In the constant accusation of eu and eu immigrants there is certainly no logic but empty hatred. " Total bollocks i dont hate anyone in fact i have met a few polish,dutch and germans on fab so hardly hate them.If you had read my post i didnt blame immigration i blamed tony blair for the mis calculation of how many people were to descend on the uk.He did have the option to stop e europeans coming for the 1st 5 years but didnt sign up for it and if he had and known how many were coming could have built new schools,hospitals and recruited the people needed. | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? We can the trouble started when the labour government underestimated how many e europeans were going to come to the uk.If i remember they thought it would be 100,000 and it turned out to be over 2 million.Governments work on long term plans so build schools, hospitals etc on what is calculated for the next 10 years.With controlled immigration this will be possible again and was all that cameron was after and a few tweaks to the benifit system when he went to the eu but they point blank refused and so here we are." That's all very nice but I was asking the lady who stated we can't do any of the things listed because we are in the EU | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places." So you don't know the exact numbers so we don't bother building anything then? Nope, I don't buy that for a nanosecond | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India?" Indeed, we have more people coming into the UK from the rest of the world than we do from the EU but the leavers only blame the EU immigration "which is smaller" | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India? Indeed, we have more people coming into the UK from the rest of the world than we do from the EU but the leavers only blame the EU immigration "which is smaller" "But the rest have to face passport control and checks while those from the EU don't | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India? Indeed, we have more people coming into the UK from the rest of the world than we do from the EU but the leavers only blame the EU immigration "which is smaller"
But the rest have to face passport control and checks while those from the EU don't"It's weird that I always have to show my passport at the airport. It doesn't matter if I'm flying to Poland or coming back from Poland to the UK | |||
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" But the rest have to face passport control and checks while those from the EU don't" Untrue. | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx" Ah, yes, a disaster of epic proportions, ill-thought out, ill-prepared, consumed by hubris . . . sounds just like Brexit. Is Grayling in charge of the little rescue boats by any chance? | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx" Why do people keep quoting ‘the Dunkirk spirit’ when taking about Brexit? It is completely irrelevant and an insult to the fallen? | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India? Indeed, we have more people coming into the UK from the rest of the world than we do from the EU but the leavers only blame the EU immigration "which is smaller"
But the rest have to face passport control and checks while those from the EU don't
It's weird that I always have to show my passport at the airport. It doesn't matter if I'm flying to Poland or coming back from Poland to the UK"Last 2 visits from Spain Ive just walked through EU lane and not shown any passport | |||
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"So the question remains You said we managed to build social housing in the masses. Hospital's and schools etc we need to get back the foundations on what Great Britain was built on. We cannot do this while we ramain in the EU x" Why can't we? Because we have no idea what the population will be from year to year as we have no say over who comes here from the EU. Nor can you plan hospital beds or school places. The easiest way to blame the EU and immigrants. Bullshit again. Why is that bullshit? please explain.Its simple mathematics if you flood an infrastructure with another 2 million people that its not designed for there are going to be problems as we are seeing now with our schools and hospitals. Why don't you blame immigrants from the Middle East, Africa or India? Indeed, we have more people coming into the UK from the rest of the world than we do from the EU but the leavers only blame the EU immigration "which is smaller"
But the rest have to face passport control and checks while those from the EU don't
It's weird that I always have to show my passport at the airport. It doesn't matter if I'm flying to Poland or coming back from Poland to the UK
Last 2 visits from Spain Ive just walked through EU lane and not shown any passport"You have saved your time. What's wrong with that? | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx Why do people keep quoting ‘the Dunkirk spirit’ when taking about Brexit? It is completely irrelevant and an insult to the fallen? " Because people voted for deprivation, misery, suffering, squalor etc. Didn't they? | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical."So what are your plans? Leave the sinking ship? | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical.
So what are your plans? Leave the sinking ship?"Bloody hell! Do you think we are sinking beneath the waves ?? Women and children should leave first right..? | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical.
So what are your plans? Leave the sinking ship?
Bloody hell!
Do you think we are sinking beneath the waves ??
Women and children should leave first right..?"Well if I'm to believe what i read on here... | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx" You don’t know much about history do you? The Dunkirk evacuation was the final act of the most humiliating and preventable events in modern British history. The Government of the day and the Press had been in complete denial for the previous 8 months as to what “war” would actually mean. So much so that the general population were convinced that war would probably not happen because Hitler would be too afraid to take on the might of the BEF and even if he did, he would get a short, sharp shock and a bloody nose and would have learned his lesson. The eventual routing of the BEF in just a matter of days sent the entire country into a shock that even today still resonates in our collective psyche. What happened had been impossible to happen and not only was the BEF defeated - it was left humiliated and helpless in the face of a ferocious Nazi onslaught. The Press mainly and the Govt to a lesser degree and directed a period of effective National brainwashing that was brutally exposed over 5 days in May 1940. It was only thanks to the Germans, for reasons never fully understood, taking their foot of the gas that the road to Dunkirk was not much, much worse than it actually was - and it was VERY BAD. | |||
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"Just saying if we can rebuild and come back from 2 world wars then we can get through a little Brexit x Typical imperialist thinking. I feel sorry for you.
Do you not think the UK is strong enough then?
And why should it be? Everyone sees this circus. UK without EU will be alone. It's logical.
So what are your plans? Leave the sinking ship?"No worries. I won't leave the sinking ship. Here is my home. I hope you enjoyed this answer. | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx Why do people keep quoting ‘the Dunkirk spirit’ when taking about Brexit? It is completely irrelevant and an insult to the fallen? Because people voted for deprivation, misery, suffering, squalor etc. Didn't they? More crass "Told ye so told ye so nah nah ne nah nahhhh" You could not be trusted to hold up your hands in twelve months or so when the initial rumblings after exiting the EU arre settling and ..... no-one has died as a direct cause...... the folks have been fed ...... the fuel still flows...... the army haven't been deployed on the UK streets...... the air is there still ..... night, as usual, follows day ....... no packs of zombies at large and the Good Earth stilll supports our Islands. It must really take something outta ye to be not only defeatist, insecure, borderline racist and general "We're doomed Cap'n Mainwaring, aye, DOOMED I tell ye.... DOOO-OOOO-OOOOOMED........!!!" Ya know, I really do want so much to find out you have been merely winding folks up, that the truth is you're not what your opinions suggest, that really would cheer me no end. X " | |||
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"The UK was built on immigration helped build the houses and we would not have an NHS without them. The EU are far too corrupt and self serving they are not a state in their own right they think it is okay to have their own national anthem. I think great things are possible when we leave and overhaul our own government too x" OK you've now posted different statements totally unrelated to your original statement but you still haven't been able to explain why we can't do all the things while being in the EU. Why people state things as fact that they are unable to explain is beyond me | |||
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"The UK was built on immigration helped build the houses and we would not have an NHS without them. The EU are far too corrupt and self serving they are not a state in their own right they think it is okay to have their own national anthem. I think great things are possible when we leave and overhaul our own government too x OK you've now posted different statements totally unrelated to your original statement but you still haven't been able to explain why we can't do all the things while being in the EU. Why people state things as fact that they are unable to explain is beyond me "No I haven't try rereading what I wrote I have never had a problem with immigration only ever had a problem with the EU. | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx" Well said. You can't expect remoaners to get that. They're all fully paid up members of the Vichy fan club | |||
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"The UK was built on immigration helped build the houses and we would not have an NHS without them. The EU are far too corrupt and self serving they are not a state in their own right they think it is okay to have their own national anthem. I think great things are possible when we leave and overhaul our own government too x OK you've now posted different statements totally unrelated to your original statement but you still haven't been able to explain why we can't do all the things while being in the EU. Why people state things as fact that they are unable to explain is beyond me
No I haven't try rereading what I wrote I have never had a problem with immigration only ever had a problem with the EU. "Try rereading what you wrote yourself but fail to be able to answer why you have that view. | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx Well said. You can't expect remoaners to get that. They're all fully paid up members of the Vichy fan club" Well my....have you boys experienced what those men did? Or are you just trotting out some emotive bullshit to make yourselves sound more British? Oh and in case you want to know my childrens grandfather was a navigator on lancasters in the war, ran his own business trading all over Europe and Scandinavia and he believed being in the EU was better than being out....but most of all he had a great distaste for armchair warriors who had never experienced coming back from an op to find the other half of their hut being cleared of belongings of the missing or dead. Just think about what you say! | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now " Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. | |||
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"Some people should show more respect .....the Dunkirk spirit is what gives you the chance to be gobby today.....remember the fallen who gave all for your freedom today ....xxx" It's harder for more hypocrisy. You talk about freedom but you can lose this freedom after Brexit without a deal. | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion." And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion." Bended knee? How is the being in the EU preventing you from doing the things you want? I am not trying to be clever I am genuinely interested to know | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. " All good clubs have a membership fee?? | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee??" But you dont get a divorce package if you leave | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? But you dont get a divorce package if you leave" Depends what is written in your contract . Let’s be honest, if you leave a club you can’t expect to get the same benefits as you had whilst being in it ? Can you? | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? But you dont get a divorce package if you leave Depends what is written in your contract . Let’s be honest, if you leave a club you can’t expect to get the same benefits as you had whilst being in it ? Can you? "No you cant and in the same vein if you end your membership you dont expect to be told you must keep to these even though you are no longer a member | |||
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee??" Yes, but we are paying platinum level fees and only receiving back bronze level benefits It’s like when I check in with my platinum tier card but the person at the desk next to me with no tier level gets the upgrade to business class 
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? But you dont get a divorce package if you leave Depends what is written in your contract . Let’s be honest, if you leave a club you can’t expect to get the same benefits as you had whilst being in it ? Can you?
No you cant and in the same vein if you end your membership you dont expect to be told you must keep to these even though you are no longer a member
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? Yes, but we are paying platinum level fees and only receiving back bronze level benefits It’s like when I check in with my platinum tier card but the person at the desk next to me with no tier level gets the upgrade to business class
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? Yes, but we are paying platinum level fees and only receiving back bronze level benefits It’s like when I check in with my platinum tier card but the person at the desk next to me with no tier level gets the upgrade to business class
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? Yes, but we are paying platinum level fees and only receiving back bronze level benefits It’s like when I check in with my platinum tier card but the person at the desk next to me with no tier level gets the upgrade to business class
What a ridiculous statement .
It’s true ...
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? But you dont get a divorce package if you leave Depends what is written in your contract . Let’s be honest, if you leave a club you can’t expect to get the same benefits as you had whilst being in it ? Can you?
No you cant and in the same vein if you end your membership you dont expect to be told you must keep to these even though you are no longer a member
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"You said we can't do those things while we're in the EU.... Why can't we, what's stopping us Such a simple easy question of why do you think we can't being in the EU Baffling beyond belief now Why should we have to go to the EU on bended knees and ask their permission on how we should live I the UK. They have the final say on everything and that is not right. But this is just my opinion. And to have to pay in to their members club for the privilege. All good clubs have a membership fee?? Yes, but we are paying platinum level fees and only receiving back bronze level benefits It’s like when I check in with my platinum tier card but the person at the desk next to me with no tier level gets the upgrade to business class
What a ridiculous statement .
It’s true ...
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